🔴[SCAM ALERT] HolyTransaction & Flyp.Me ILLEGALY holding more than 100k$ in BTC

[ivndnkn]

having processed dozens of transactions using flyp.me - I am glad I have seen this now and will no longer use their services - even though they have not cheated me directly - I do not like the way they are handling these cases of holding people's funds.

They could selective scam anybody at any time. It is best that people avoid these scam exchanges.

Yes, you are absolutely right.

According to the FlypMe ToS:

Article 25. Permanent withdrawal of Services
HolyTransaction may:
(a) suspend or terminate the Client access to the Services, and
(b) deactivate and/or cancel the Client Swap as required by a valid subpoena or court order, or if HolyTransaction reasonably suspects the Client of using his/her Client Swap in furtherance of illegal activity or in violation of any provision laid down by these General Terms and Conditions.
In case of a Pending Transaction when the Client Swap of the Client is cancelled or suspended, the said Transaction may be cancelled and/or refunded as appropriate.
Client may not cancel his/her Client Swap to evade an investigation or avoid paying any amounts otherwise due to HolyTransaction.
Upon cancellation of his/her Client Swap, the Client authorizes HolyTransaction to cancel or suspend Pending Transaction, if technically possible, and return the funds associated with such transactions to the Client’s wallet address.
In the event that the Client or HolyTransaction terminates their relation or the Client’s access to the Services, or deactivates or cancels the Client Swap, the Client will remain liable for all amounts due hereunder.
In the event that a technical problem causes system outage or Client Swap errors, HolyTransaction may temporarily suspend access to the Client Swap and/or the Platform until the problem is resolved.

[r34tr783tr78]

They will have to explain on what reasonable grounds they are holding money for about 1 year when the customer against all reasonable suspicions that the demand for documents was a pure pretext sent all the documents they asked and could invent to ask. In order to be "safe" HolyTransaction should add to their terms "hold customers money everytime they have a high balance and seems profit to steal it".

[JollyGood]

This process has gone on for too long. The only one to lose out has been the victim. He clearly mentioned in the OP he transferred the funds in 2017 so it has been a long time.

In the mean time we have no idea how many others have been selective scammed by these thieves at HolyTransaction / Flyp.Me because their trash websites are still up and running

[mosprognoz]

the company has the right to suspend the user access to the services if the user is in violation of any provision laid down by the T&Cs.

Translation = We can steal your funds any time. Fucking scammers.

[r34tr783tr78]

Lets revive this. I hate these scammers. Op how is going your case? You should keep this thread alive to warn future victims against these scammers.

[r34tr783tr78]

It seems the OP gave up on his case. But I have some scammers on my special list. I will keep attention on them. Clearly crime compensates. They are still online: https://flyp.me https://holytransaction.com/
Taking in account the high amount this says much about the crypto world. Be aware this is a jungle full of scammers like these.

[JollyGood]

The OP was a victim of their scam last logged in to the forum on 22nd October 2019. Yes it looks like as though he gave up, sadly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2132906

It seems the OP gave up on his case. But I have some scammers on my special list. I will keep attention on them. Clearly crime compensates. They are still online: https://flyp.me https://holytransaction.com/
Taking in account the high amount this says much about the crypto world. Be aware this is a jungle full of scammers like these.

[r34tr783tr78]

The OP was a victim of their scam last logged in to the forum on 22nd October 2019. Yes it looks like as though he gave up, sadly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2132906

It seems the OP gave up on his case. But I have some scammers on my special list. I will keep attention on them. Clearly crime compensates. They are still online: https://flyp.me https://holytransaction.com/
Taking in account the high amount this says much about the crypto world. Be aware this is a jungle full of scammers like these.

But the bitcoin world cant ignore this. Scams of 100000 shouldnt be forget. And the scammer and his alts made posts that were evidence of a scam after receiving almost all documents on the book. He even denied the amount and posted the usual trash.

[r34tr783tr78]

This wasnt solved or the OP or they would post about it. I see that you still have the link about this scam on your signature. Good move. I just gave you a positive feedback. Keep on the good work. I wont forget this scammers. They can count with some updates on this thread even if the OP gave up.

[r34tr783tr78]

Im not going to let this thread go down in obscurity. I dont know why the OP gave up on his claim but Im keeping this alive. A scam of 100,000 USD cant be forgotten by the community. The exchange is still in business https://holytransaction.com/

[r34tr783tr78]

8 months passed since the last time I posted on here and this scamming exchange is still in business https://holytransaction.com/. They were able to bury this thread. It doesnt appear in some searchers. Scamming is really a lucrative business in the bitcoin world. They have reviews most likely paid whitewashing them like this guy here https://cryptogeek.info/en/wallets/holytransaction

[r34tr783tr78]

These scammers are too still in business. I found another scam report: https://www.trustpilot.com/reviews/614229e9215cfcced266e208. Their positive reviews are almost all 5 stars they should be legit: https://www.trustpilot.com/review/holytransaction.com. HolyTransaction is sending promoting emails promising daily payments. Someone here raising scam suspicions about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/cardano/comments/o2x9v5/got_this_email_from_holytransaction_multiasset/

[r34tr783tr78]

Another six months passed and these scammers keep going on: https://holytransaction.com/
On the real world someone steals 5 bucks and risks jail. On the crypto you steal 100000 and get away with it. Another site full of fake reviews about them almost all 5 stars: https://bittrust.org/holytransaction
I just saw that the OP was online recently. You should give us an update OP.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Another six months passed and these scammers keep going on: https://holytransaction.com/

I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here and say that their site is still up (as well as Flyp.me's) because they're not complete scam services--in other words, some people have used them and still do without any problems.  That same statement could be said of a lot of crypto casinos, traditional custodial exchanges, you name it.

I agree that that the below statement sounds like a license to do anything with your funds....but how's that any different than many other crypto services' ToS?

Article 25. Permanent withdrawal of Services
HolyTransaction may:
(a) suspend or terminate the Client access to the Services, and
(b) deactivate and/or cancel the Client Account as required by a valid subpoena or court order, or if HolyTransaction reasonably suspects the Client of using his/her Client Account in furtherance of illegal activity or in violation of any provision laid down by these General Terms and Conditions. [...]

In addition, I only heard basically one side of this story, that of OP's.  I have no idea what really happened between him and these two exchanges.  And since this was all back in 2018, I'm wondering if they're under the same management.

Bumping this thread likely isn't going to do much good--and I haven't searched, but are there tons of complaints against flyp.me and/or holytransaction?  I don't recall seeing many over the years.

[JollyGood]

After I read your post it got me thinking. The truth is the complaints have not piled up against flyp.me or the parent company holy transaction, there have been a few here and there but nothing substantial against them at all but if the OP claimed losses he should have continued his attempts to get his funds back.

This issue was a long time ago, I cannot recall all the associated facts but if the OP has given up on the matter (he last posted in October 2019 even though he last visited here in August 2022) I agree, I think bumping the thread does very little either to highlight the alleged scam or warn people off using flyp.me/holy transaction.

In addition, I only heard basically one side of this story, that of OP's.  I have no idea what really happened between him and these two exchanges.  And since this was all back in 2018, I'm wondering if they're under the same management.

Bumping this thread likely isn't going to do much good--and I haven't searched, but are there tons of complaints against flyp.me and/or holytransaction?  I don't recall seeing many over the years.

[dataispower]

Im not going to let this thread go down in obscurity. I dont know why the OP gave up on his claim but Im keeping this alive. A scam of 100,000 USD cant be forgotten by the community. The exchange is still in business https://holytransaction.com/

I don't really about the scam and when it happened, but base on the amount that is involved in USD it's a pity that the scam is a remarkable something and it can't be forgotten so easily. I will take my time and read it to know more about this, my advice is that if you know that you are of negative side don't allow such amount of money to die off.

Continue making reference of it so that people that is new in bitcointalk will see and learn from what happened. but I'm surprised why you had a red tag. I want if it's because of this issues or it's another problem, because why i ask is because i have not entered or click or your trust.

[nixoid]

Andrii Zamovsky is here.

I'm just here to clear my name since it comes up in search. You can check this account's other messages to validate the authenticity.

Long story short:

I've started NoveltyLab Inc, which was a US-based company in 2013 with Nickolay Babenko, Anton Tovstonozhenko and Francesco Simonetti.

The first two and myself are Ukrainians, Francesco is Italian. No Russians.

NoveltyLab Inc launched HolyTransaction.com, which was the first multi-currency wallet (before tokens were a thing) and operated it for approximately a year.

in 2014 I've resigned from the company and Francesco took over the CEO role.

It looks like things might have gone a bit sideways after that.

To my best knowledge, the IP or other rights were never properly transferred from NoveltyLab Inc to Flyp.me or any other European entities, at least I have not received any notices or dividends.

I don't know what has actually happened, but I hope everyone gets their bitcoins back.

[JollyGood]

This is somewhat of a surprise because your last post in the forum was back in November 2017 and around six months after the most recent post was made in this thread, you have posted here.

If you have no participation with the company but can give some background, can you explain why the parent company was registered in the US as NoveltyLab Inc but somehow multiple European jurisdictions were used to register Holy Transaction and have that as the parent company owner of Flyp.me without any mention of NoveltyLab Inc?

Andrii Zamovsky is here.

I'm just here to clear my name since it comes up in search. You can check this account's other messages to validate the authenticity.

Long story short:

I've started NoveltyLab Inc, which was a US-based company in 2013 with Nickolay Babenko, Anton Tovstonozhenko and Francesco Simonetti.

The first two and myself are Ukrainians, Francesco is Italian. No Russians.

NoveltyLab Inc launched HolyTransaction.com, which was the first multi-currency wallet (before tokens were a thing) and operated it for approximately a year.

in 2014 I've resigned from the company and Francesco took over the CEO role.

It looks like things might have gone a bit sideways after that.

To my best knowledge, the IP or other rights were never properly transferred from NoveltyLab Inc to Flyp.me or any other European entities, at least I have not received any notices or dividends.

I don't know what has actually happened, but I hope everyone gets their bitcoins back.

[nixoid]

This is somewhat of a surprise because your last post in the forum was back in November 2017 and around six months after the most recent post was made in this thread, you have posted here.

I've explained that I was just checking my name in google search and this thread came up.

If you have no participation with the company but can give some background, can you explain why the parent company was registered in the US as NoveltyLab Inc but somehow multiple European jurisdictions were used to register Holy Transaction and have that as the parent company owner of Flyp.me without any mention of NoveltyLab Inc?

As you correctly said I have not been involved in the company since 2014 and have no idea what were they doing in Europe. I have too many other things to worry about - google "Ambisafe", "Orderbook", and "Unicorn tokenization corp".

My best guess is that Francesco decided to abandon the US legal entity and illegally use the code & intellectual property for the Flyp.me without any notices to Noveltylab shareholders (including myself).