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December 23, 2018, 05:23:10 PM
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I've had another one that has been flagged as bad, and I didn't get any explanation, or even a comment on the one that was alleged to be bad. Obviously my judgement is not good enough, and 9 others have been marked as unhandled ( ignored ).

Without any feedback, people will just say "stuff it!".

I was going to report this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088685.0
but it's got an image in it, so maybe the kindergarten here will like it. I didn't open the image by the way.

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December 23, 2018, 05:37:47 PM
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Out of curiosity, which posts you've reported and it was marked as bad?

As for the unhandled, probably no mod was available after all, is nearly it's nearly x-mas. I had reports sitting there like that for days but in the end, they were solved and I must add, all of them!

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December 23, 2018, 05:53:07 PM
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A lot of things that are reportable are subjective. Many posts that are reported for things like spam, trolling, low value, pointless, etc. don't have a clear and obvious "yes or no" answer like there is with plagiarism. If the mod who handles them disagrees, then your report will be marked as bad or unhandled.

I've had a handful of bad reports, and a larger handful of unhandled ones. That hasn't stopped me, and it shouldn't stop you. It would be far too time consuming for mods to explain their decision making on every report. Don't take it personally - just move on.

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Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports.

You reported something as plagiarism but the person provided the source link so that's probably why it was marked as bad.

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December 23, 2018, 06:12:13 PM
Last edit: December 23, 2018, 06:31:52 PM by cryptohunter
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whack a mole is not an answer don't worry about it - it is a short term measure we need a long term solution.. we need to get to the route of the motivation to produce this junk and see what we can do about it.

it is actually a good thing that all this snitcher mentality is soon to be  replaced with a fair and transparent rewarding mentality

actually we need to get to the source of this entire issue rather than trying to leave the motivation there then trying to stop people being human beings then pretending here we are not exactly the same as them and doing the same things with impunity....they are trying to game the system because they are able to and consider it unfair.

don't worry though I will soon have a few ideas to improve things... leave it to me. that is what being really net positive is about...changing things for the better

actually the entire centralised spiral of control that is forming just underneath actual mod level will need to be completely rooted out and we need to get back to a fairer and more trustless decentralised system

paid2post is merely the fuel that the merit and trust system uses to steer the system to their benefit and it is strange to me that both systems are totally subjective and controlled by some of the same people.

Don't worry though change for the better is on the way.

I think all these financially motivated copy and pastes will be killed off in one way fast. Remove sigs from everyone except mods to pay for their time. It will reduce the spam over night to virtually zero. You will then need to just tackle fake conversations which is actually far more difficult

I was hoping the price collapse of bitcoin and alts would have resulted in a lot of it passing away naturally but it has not had as much effect as I had expected. Last collapse and the boards went back to being very quite and the old posters returned this has not happened this time.




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December 23, 2018, 08:06:10 PM
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Do not worry about bad reports, If you do not report then how do you know it can be turned bad?
1 good report is always worth.
It will be really tough for mod to give reasons for each reports and I guess you should worry reporting if your accuracy falls below 90% otherwise keep reporting.

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December 23, 2018, 09:03:38 PM
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I was going to report this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088685.0
The thread has been trashed already
MODS are also humans and they sure have loads of reports which takes time to handle one after the time,with contrasting views which then consumes more time
For the fact you and a mod or mods share different views on a reported subject is no reason to stop,not In my opinion
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December 23, 2018, 09:05:00 PM
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Active moderators being stretched thin among the various boards could be the reason for the unhandled reports. And it's possible to have had a bad report especially when reporting many in a short space of time, and it's also possible that the mod incorrectly market it bad.

However, none of these should dissuade you from reporting. One good report is worth more than many bad reports.

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December 23, 2018, 09:22:39 PM
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I was rather baffled about my bad reports at first, and seeing bad reports back then without knowing full well why they were bad buggered me slightly. Nevertheless, once the report history was made available, at least I could see which of my recent reports were on which state. For me that was good enough, and while I cannot always grasp why a certain status is marked, the bigger picture still leaves 99% accuracy, 6 bad and 13 unhandled. Compared to those marked as good, those bad or unhandled are irrelevant, being those marked good a drop towards a global forum benefit. I would just move on as usual and not give it much thought.

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December 23, 2018, 09:31:03 PM
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You should dont give much at Bad reports as far the bad reports not higher as the good reports !   Cheesy

Sometimes i reported the same Post or thread 2 times in the past , guess the half of my Bad reports are coming this way , lol !

Just keep reporting , dont let the Spammers and Shitposters win this WAR !  Grin
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December 24, 2018, 05:37:26 AM
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I probably haven't reported nearly as much as you, but I would stick with it. If you enjoy the forums then it is best to report.

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December 24, 2018, 06:00:46 AM
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Oh come on, Jet Cash!  Don't get frustrated and give up so easily just because a few of your reports are either unhandled or marked bad.  How many posts have your reported in total, anyway, and what's your report percentage? 

This is me:  "You have reported 4049 posts with 99% accuracy (3561 good, 65 bad, 423 unhandled).".  Mods have obviously ignored (or just didn't act on) over 10% of my reports, and I've obviously had a lot of bad ones too, but I'm completely indifferent about those numbers.  The main thing for me is that when I report a post, it gives me the feeling that I've done something, and after that it's out of my hands.

Jet Cash, I've always suspected that you're a type A personality who likes to get things done and is fond of being in control of situations.  Am I in the ballpark?  I'm almost the exact opposite of that, so that makes it easier for me to accept any bad reports I make.  Please don't give up the fight, because I think your judgement on what constitutes a bad post is pretty good.  You just have to accept that the outcomes of your reporting aren't under your control and mods aren't always going to agree with you.  Keep up the reporting; the forum needs members like you who are trying their best to make it better.

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December 24, 2018, 06:21:56 AM
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I think I've only reported about 100 posts with 97% accuracy, but I see that as 3% failure. If I fail. then I like to know the reason for the failure so that I can improve my performance. I was going to report the thread I mentioned because of the title, and the lack of information in the OP. Normally I wouldn't have opened the thread, but I was in one of my "Lets improve the Internet" moods. Smiley

Did I read that it is now possible to view a listing of our post reports. If so, that would solve the problem for me.

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December 24, 2018, 11:09:53 AM
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I think I've only reported about 100 posts with 97% accuracy, but I see that as 3% failure. If I fail. then I like to know the reason for the failure so that I can improve my performance. I was going to report the thread I mentioned because of the title, and the lack of information in the OP. Normally I wouldn't have opened the thread, but I was in one of my "Lets improve the Internet" moods. Smiley

Did I read that it is now possible to view a listing of our post reports. If so, that would solve the problem for me.

I think you need to have reported a minimum of 300 posts or something before that becomes available. Don't be disheartened by one bad report. They help us out and I think pretty much everyone gets them. Just learn from the mistake and if something has a source link then it's probably best not to report it.

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December 24, 2018, 11:11:10 AM
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Did I read that it is now possible to view a listing of our post reports. If so, that would solve the problem for me.

You need to make 300 reports to see your reporting history.

Unhandled reports are not ignored, they are just waiting for the moderator (they will be marked as good or bad soon).

I think the word "bad" is too strong, and may be discouraging for the reporter. If it were "inaccurate report" it would be much better than "bad report"

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December 24, 2018, 11:37:02 AM
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Unhandled reports are not ignored, they are just waiting for the moderator (they will be marked as good or bad soon).

You are right in saying that have not been ignored, but not all reports will eventually be marked as good or bad. Some are left unhandled indefinitely. For example, if a mod agrees with whatever you wrote in the report, but think it isn't severe enough to be marked as "good" and delete the post in question, it may just be left unhandled forever. As stated at the top of the report page, you can think of unhandled as a "soft bad", as your report was correct, just not strong enough to warrant deletion.

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December 24, 2018, 12:31:01 PM
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I have 99% accuracy with approximately 300 reported posts so far, only 5 marked as bad - but I think this is normal to make mistake, for users who report posts and for moderators. I think the worst option is to stop reporting bad posts, if this option does not exist on forum it is hard to imagine how it would look bad then.

Perhaps some people consider bad or unhandled reported posts as something that is their fault, but we should look at it on the bright side - any help to forum moderators/admins to keep this forum clean can only be positive thing.

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December 24, 2018, 01:58:11 PM
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Moderators are also human,so they may have did wrong analysis about your reported post and give wrong button as bad report,but it doesn't mean you are not capable of reporting the posts,keep doing and make the forum clean veterans. Wink
I was going to report this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088685.0
but it's got an image in it, so maybe the kindergarten here will like it. I didn't open the image by the way.

The thread you have reported were deleted,so you did with accurate analysis,one more good report for you.

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December 24, 2018, 02:05:15 PM
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I think I've only reported about 100 posts with 97% accuracy
That's pretty much a good score and should not be one to worry much about,as their are very few users with a 100% accuracy(if there are any)
I think Its for this very reason theymos included the phrase that we should not be to worried about accuracy score

Apparently your 97% score is worth more than the 3% inaccurate ones
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December 24, 2018, 02:12:18 PM
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I have 1336 posts with 100% accuracy (1312 good, 8 bad, 16 unhandled)
Which means 1312 shit posts were deleted.  Some of the ones marked bad were deleted by the moderator anyway.

The unhandled ones might have been handled in a different way or just too difficult to handle.
You will get better over time with knowing what the moderators are looking for and consider a good report.

The occasional bad report really doesn't matter. During peak times I've had lots of unhandled reports stay unhandled for some time - or forever. It is not unusual.

My bad reports reduced over time so you can easily get from 97% accuracy to 100% accuracy.

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