marlboroza using ""plagiarism"" as weapon to silence critics

[Chosen Username]

all start with cryptohunter not agree when one of central gang say "pre merit legends are spammers"

CH point out the fact & data of the still broken aspect & centralize merit system correctly

marlboroza  have most centralized merit history & get angry when data show

marlboroza then try stop CH with fake RED TRUST but had to remove 4 fake
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086816.0

gang cant handle criticism  centralize merit

one of gang make sock first to ban CH on plagarisms
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg48790244#msg48790244
& fail   -  source was there but still "" Merited by Lauda (2), Foxpup (1), LoyceV (1) <agree with tactic

next marlboroza main account start digging for plagarisms again to shut down CH with 4yoa post
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg48828854#msg48828854
& fail again

keep digging

marlboroza dig posts still today try to ban CH
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086297.msg48837494#msg48837494
still fail

this dirty tactic of marlboroza shut down opinion by search ancient post  4 plagarisms
we not worry about ""plagarisms"" in 2013-2014 like now

TP & SM hide from subject in threads

I say dirty tactic used

you think good to use tactic ?
how u feel if marlboroza search all your old post 2 ban u on technical if u disagree with marlboroza ?

marlboroza try find me 2 to dig 4 plagarisms but wont expose

apology - have to hide writing type or be attack by dirty tactic

[marlboroza]

marlboroza  have most centralized merit history & get angry when data show

As I said I am not angry, you are making this up, the same as cryptohunter https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086816.msg48767439#msg48767439

marlboroza then try stop CH with fake RED TRUST but had to remove 4 fake

This is also not true, I stand by my words that cryptohunter is annoying troll. Nothing was/is fake in comment.

one of gang make sock first to ban CH on plagarisms

What gang? You are delusional.

next marlboroza main account start digging for plagarisms again to shut down CH with 4yoa post

Hm, last time I checked someone pointed in that thread some posts and someone else checked other posts, it happens every day. I don't see why should it be different with cryptohunter.

marlboroza dig posts still today try to ban CH

Not really, I don't even think moderator reads that thread()i might be wrong). As I remember, cryptohunter was complaining about signature spam:

I will bring up their paid for posting sig spamming shit whenever I like.

this dirty tactic of marlboroza shut down opinion by search ancient post  4 plagarisms
we not worry about ""plagarisms"" in 2013-2014 like now

So you do agree this was nothing but blatant plagiarism?
I think you forget to write something in quotes ""and"" - you can't really put "" and nothing in it, it doesn't make any sense.

[Astargath]

Some people really have a lot of free time digging posts 4 years ago lmao, reminds me of those tweets that people find 10 years ago to discredit someone.

[cryptohunter]

marlboroza  have most centralized merit history & get angry when data show

As I said I am not angry, you are making this up, the same as cryptohunter https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086816.msg48767439#msg48767439

marlboroza then try stop CH with fake RED TRUST but had to remove 4 fake

This is also not true, I stand by my words that cryptohunter is annoying troll. Nothing was/is fake in comment.

one of gang make sock first to ban CH on plagarisms

What gang? You are delusional.

next marlboroza main account start digging for plagarisms again to shut down CH with 4yoa post

Hm, last time I checked someone pointed in that thread some posts and someone else checked other posts, it happens every day. I don't see why should it be different with cryptohunter.

marlboroza dig posts still today try to ban CH

Not really, I don't even think moderator reads that thread()i might be wrong). As I remember, cryptohunter was complaining about signature spam:

I will bring up their paid for posting sig spamming shit whenever I like.

this dirty tactic of marlboroza shut down opinion by search ancient post  4 plagarisms
we not worry about ""plagarisms"" in 2013-2014 like now

So you do agree this was nothing but blatant plagiarism?
I think you forget to write something in quotes ""and"" - you can't really put "" and nothing in it, it doesn't make any sense.

poor moronbozo... the spirit of cryptohunter can never die and these threads are adding weight to my argument you poor sad dumb loser.

this is a system abuser and needs to be removed.


By removing a high net positive user you become net negative yourself. In the boards interest you morobozo should be removed.

Hey moronbozo what is trolling may I ask.....sure cryptohunter it is the presenting observable events and facts that do not suit my agenda and then talking about them. I will try to red trust you for that and when you shove that red trust back up my ass I will just give you neutral trust. LOL you sad little wretch

Enjoy your xmas period feasting on the great and LEGENDARY achievements of a TRUE LEGEND not some dumb schmuck like your or the rest of you nasty gang here in meta. You may be able to scare others from standing up to you but sadly it just will not work on me.

Even by getting me banned you just make me stronger it is a great position to be in because the ban will always look to support my entire argument that TRUE NET POSITIVE PEOPLE  even REAL LEGENDS accounts can be closed on some minor boring shit that should at most be a slap on the wrist. I almost want it to happen just so my friends can now join and add this to the weight of their argument.

Removing net postive people makes you net negative and further so because when people see this they lose further faith in the system you are trying to control. It is a spiral of negativity you set off and thus must accept.  You therefore must be removed.

I give you opportunity again here

1. list your achievements of any real note
2. Refute anything that I have claimed here.

if not slink back under your stone you worm.... go tell teacher that I just called you names you dumb broke ass loser

I just looked at my expensive watch and realised it is time to get into my expensive automobile and then be driven to my expensive boat to take me to my expensive destination to socialise with other people of my own class and standing. So you knock on the roof of the pharmacists card board box  and tell him thanks for contributing to my expensive and lavish life style and I will be drinking to you all for being so kind to support my argument and for entertaining me as I dangle my achievements and my rewards for being a TRUE LEGEND HERE.  

Of course some of it is teasing but actually most is not and like everything i say are based upon fact..... merry xmas to all of you that makes it possible for me to never have a dull moment between sampling the finest of everything in real life and when even that becomes tedious... I now get to use your gang as my clowns and jesters on the forum. I know understand why all kings have them. A true KING has never had such a life. In fact I may already have risen to heaven it seems.  

Raise a glass to me ( or cracked plastic container whatever you have access to) and fill it with the finest substances you can find in your swamp of a life and acknowledge that in history you will have proof that CRYPTOHUNTER deemed you worthy of his disdain. I have just given you your answer when next asked about your crowing achievement here... never forget that and never fail to be thankful..hahaha

[BitcoinSupremo]

Just wanted to say that you can't really put my friend LFC_Bitcoin in the same league with other DT members, he hasn't done any harm to anyone and never have left a non valid feedback to anyone. I don't know the others but I know him and he is in another league.

[Harlot]

This is not a dirty tactic at all if a plagiarizer still lives among us then I don't think he deserves to walk away freely when other plagiarizers have been banned instantly. Just take a look at rickadone's case his account got permabanned from a post written in 2016 which is a long time now but even if the plagiarism was done a long time ago it doesn't absolve him from the rule violation he committed. Whether the member has a personal grudge or not I don't think it matters as long as he/she proves that he previously had plagiarized a post which in your case marlboroza hasn't proven yet.

[cryptohunter]

This is not a dirty tactic at all if a plagiarizer still lives among us then I don't think he deserves to walk away freely when other plagiarizers have been banned instantly. Just take a look at rickadone's case his account got permabanned from a post written in 2016 which is a long time now but even if the plagiarism was done a long time ago it doesn't absolve him from the rule violation he committed. Whether the member has a personal grudge or not I don't think it matters as long as he/she proves that he previously had plagiarized a post which in your case marlboroza hasn't proven yet.

Who gives one fuck about what you think?

You are some noob that is net NOTHING.

ONLY CLEAR FINANCIALLY MOTIVATED COPY AND PASTE SHOULD EVEN BE REPORTED.

Anything else is snitching pathetic crap.

If anyone gets banned here for posting something without a reference to original source for a good reason or clearly with a good motive should not even be bothered, unless doing it all the time.

DO YOU KNOW.

MEMES are now actually something that breaks the LAW in europe.

Most copy and past on here is not even illegal. It is not copyright theft at all.  The odd case where people get lazy with a reference with a motive for helping people and no financial reward for doing so is nothing to keep blabbering on about.

I'm wonder if some of these meme linkers are linking from any sites hosted in the EU ... I wonder what that would mean for them.

So we are trying to kick people off who are net positive helping people or the board with information and now we want to allow memes that are mostly used to take the piss and provide no help to the board a free pass.

Where is attribution to the original owners/producers work in the memes??

The entire thing is pathetic.

We want rid of copy and pasters who are bots or people that are doing it over and over for their own financial reward and not trying to help anyone.

How about I don't think you should walk away freely for wasting my time explaining things to you when I could be helping others push for big changes here that you probably dont  have the capacity to understand?

By wasting my time you taking my quality and focus from this board and you will become net negative I could easily provide a case to demonstrate such people are sucking from the board and should be deleted unless you can provide some evidence you have done a lot of good here to counter that.

[Chosen Username]

mods r in on it


delete my posts in MY OWN THREAD


delete 1/5 of all my post but in MY OWN THREAD proof mods r in on it


cant allow users see my rebuttal to moronbozo - was post 3

[o_e_l_e_o]

Just because you started the thread doesn't mean you are magically immune from the forum wide rules, one of which you will have broken to have that post deleted.

The fact that all your other nonsense ramblings haven't been deleted is proof enough that no one is "in" on anything.

[actmyname]

mods r in on it


delete my posts in MY OWN THREAD


delete 1/5 of all my post but in MY OWN THREAD proof mods r in on it


cant allow users see my rebuttal to moronbozo - was post 3

Do you know why it was deleted? Because you want to continue this incessant nonsense of obfuscating your posts. Unreadable posts are reportable.

[cryptohunter]

His main point is clearly observable and has a great deal of corroborating evidence and I believe is a true statement . It is of great importance to the board and the future of free speech here that nobody should abuse systems of control to limit any persons free speech with accompanying reasonable argument.

I think personally think that things will start to change soon anyway now that I have highlighted how both merit and trust systems are open to abuse and therefore able to influence natural posting behaviour.

Getting people banned to silence them will never work. The people that care about this board will always encourage others to join to pick up the baton and fight the good fight.

Only non enthusiasts would see a ban as the end of the road, It is merely more incentive.

Net positive members and giants of achievment compared to most should never be treated with disrespect by net neutral or net negative members. The very notion of that is inverse to building value into this board.

Let's get serious on this board. We want real input and real posts/debates between those that have some hope of generating new ideas and new solutions.

Snitching on people that are clearly net negative is one thing but attempting to sully the great name of real legends should not be tolerated. These bottom feeders need to be removed or asked to produce work or ideas produced worthy of remaining.

I will debate with anyone with an open mind and in public. If I have to change more original stance or opinion then i would be nothing other than grateful. I would thank them.

Chosen username is the only person to stand up for me and for that I give full respect and gratitude. Others pale into insignificance compared to you my friend and I will not forget this. You will be remembered above and beyond all those that slunk away thinking only of their own interests. I understand some are affraid to speek out are  but still money is nothing compared to free speech.

I can honestly say anyone who's aim is simply a fair system for all should be treated with respect and gratitude.

Let's be honest most of these high merit achievers are observably weak and broken minds that betray the entire point of a merit system.
The mere fact their opinions and statements have never been put under any real scrutiny does not mean they are valid. Every time that I have analysed what they say it seems to fall apart and collapse.

I can not augment additional processing and analytical abilities into these dullards nor their supporters but that is not my fault and does not make us wrong. The fact others can not operate at a level to find that out for themselves is again not my fault.

Your initial statement is true in the OP chosen username and I will always appreciate you are able to see this and that you felt the urge to help me.  

I support you and your thread and If i could make you a real LEGEND at once I would surely do so.

This will likely be my last post in reputation for a while since it is a baron land we need to crush abusers and controllers with facts and observable events in meta.

[xtraelv]

Plagiarism is plagiarism and results in a permaban. There is no valid excuse.

It is super easy to use quotes and/or list a source.

[cryptohunter]

Plagiarism is plagiarism and results in a permaban. There is no valid excuse.

It is super easy to use quotes and/or list a source.

Please mr nobody

Stfu

Look at hypocrite ... worried about others peoples prior art..

this is just in a couple of pages of his history  ...pleb


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.msg47044986#msg47044986

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088731.msg48852497#msg48852497

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4564216.msg48461189#msg48461189

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5055672.msg47221161#msg47221161

where is your credit to these peopleS prio art?  where is your source?

Memes are now actually breaking the law in the EU ....are those hosted in the EU

Even so why would you think you can fill you entire post history crammed with crap you did not originally produce and the try to comment on a real legend you dumb shit.

Do you have any provable achievements here to make me believe you are even net positive here? to counter this ?

copy and paste or failure to add references now and then when helping people and gaining nothing financially is not permaban if you are netpositive....  I mean even 1. 1000 would be acceptable with no financial motive your history is littered with taking other peoples work and giving no credit.

Now sit down and shut up

[BitcoinSupremo]

At least someone is raising their voice over DT abuse, and I will give a merit to it because this forum is more centralized than a central bank is, and the funny thing, bitcoin was supposed to give decentralization 

[pugman]

Few things:

Did CH just merit himself?

Also, is it possible that CH's account might have changed hands, I don't ever recall him being this nardy and retarded.

CH, chill down, and try to explain in a few words instead of writing pages.

[cryptohunter]

Few things:

Did CH just merit himself?

Also, is it possible that CH's account might have changed hands, I don't ever recall him being this nardy and retarded.

CH, chill down, and try to explain in a few words instead of writing pages.

Define retarded. Then prove that I have lost one debate ever.

Then get to my page long post on meta that nobody has been able to rebut as yet and start to try and read it. Then if you believe you understand it and do not agree with it then feel free to present your case.

Only try posting if you have an opinion or statement to voice that you can substantiate or back with some evidence.

I am bored of reputation so reply to me in meta

@BitcoinSupremo

thanks for support and demonstrating you are one of the few people that actually starts to see just how these control systems merit and trust are slipping in beneath admin level to suppress free speech here. It's an observable fact how open these very systems are to abuse.

[xtraelv]

Plagiarism is plagiarism and results in a permaban. There is no valid excuse.

It is super easy to use quotes and/or list a source.

Please mr nobody

Stfu

Look at hypocrite ... worried about others peoples prior art..

this is just in a couple of pages of his history  ...pleb


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.msg47044986#msg47044986

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088731.msg48852497#msg48852497

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4564216.msg48461189#msg48461189

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5055672.msg47221161#msg47221161

where is your credit to these peopleS prio art?  where is your source?

Memes are now actually breaking the law in the EU ....are those hosted in the EU

Even so why would you think you can fill you entire post history crammed with crap you did not originally produce and the try to comment on a real legend you dumb shit.

Do you have any provable achievements here to make me believe you are even net positive here? to counter this ?

copy and paste or failure to add references now and then when helping people and gaining nothing financially is not permaban if you are netpositive....  I mean even 1. 1000 would be acceptable with no financial motive your history is littered with taking other peoples work and giving no credit.

Now sit down and shut up

LOL - the images are hosted on an external site. The image IS the external source.

You can view this by right clicking and selecting "open image in new tab"



Now who is looking like a real legendary dumb shit. ?!  

[Astargath]

Plagiarism is plagiarism and results in a permaban. There is no valid excuse.

It is super easy to use quotes and/or list a source.

Please mr nobody

Stfu

Look at hypocrite ... worried about others peoples prior art..

this is just in a couple of pages of his history  ...pleb


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.msg47044986#msg47044986

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088731.msg48852497#msg48852497

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4564216.msg48461189#msg48461189

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5055672.msg47221161#msg47221161

where is your credit to these peopleS prio art?  where is your source?

Memes are now actually breaking the law in the EU ....are those hosted in the EU

Even so why would you think you can fill you entire post history crammed with crap you did not originally produce and the try to comment on a real legend you dumb shit.

Do you have any provable achievements here to make me believe you are even net positive here? to counter this ?

copy and paste or failure to add references now and then when helping people and gaining nothing financially is not permaban if you are netpositive....  I mean even 1. 1000 would be acceptable with no financial motive your history is littered with taking other peoples work and giving no credit.

Now sit down and shut up

LOL - the images are hosted on an external site. The image IS the external source.

You can view this by right clicking and selecting "open image in new tab"



Now who is looking like a real legendary dumb shit. ?!  

He is actually right, it doesn't matter if it's hosted on an external site or not, if you are the owner of the forum you can be sued for copyright infringement if someone posts a copyrighted picture. Of course it matters a lot where the server is located.

[xtraelv]

He is actually right, it doesn't matter if it's hosted on an external site or not, if you are the owner of the forum you can be sued for copyright infringement if someone posts a copyrighted picture. Of course it matters a lot where the server is located.

Not if the link is to an origional post. It is like posting a URL.

The presence of the image is only virtual.  The image file is not on the bitcointalk server - only a link to the image.

Removal of the image from the linked site will result in the url displaying

Such site can also block external access to the image.

In the country where I live it is not considered infringement. It is also not disallowed by the bitcointalk rules.

...and that is not even getting into the "fair use" argument or the fact that most, if not all of the images that were linked to are in public domain with no distinguishable ownership.

A lot of the memes are generated on meme makers using royalty free stock photos.

Crazy countries can make crazy laws. But since I don't live in them or plan to visit they have no jurisdiction over me.  If those countries attempt to enforce those crazy laws outside of their own country it may well be breaching the constitutional laws of the country that I live in.

In the majority of civilized countries - linking and framing is not considered copyright infringement.

In large part, linking and framing are not held to be copyright infringement under US and German copyright law, even though the underlying Web pages are protected under copyright law. Because the copyright-protected content is stored on a server other than that of the linking or framing person (it is stored on the plaintiff's server), there is typically no infringing "copy" made by the defendant linking or framing person (as may be essential), on which to base liability. Some European countries take a more protective view, however, and hold unauthorized framing and so-called deep linking unlawful.

The European Court of Justice's binding ruling in 2014 was that embedding a work could not be a violation of copyright:

The embedding in a website of a protected work which is publicly accessible on another website by means of a link using the framing technology … does not by itself constitute communication to the public within the meaning of [the EU Copyright directive] to the extent that the relevant work is neither communicated to a new public nor by using a specific technical means different from that used for the original communication

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_aspects_of_hyperlinking_and_framing

As long as Bitcointalk follows the DCMA guidelines they have nothing to worry about.

[cryptohunter]

He is actually right, it doesn't matter if it's hosted on an external site or not, if you are the owner of the forum you can be sued for copyright infringement if someone posts a copyrighted picture. Of course it matters a lot where the server is located.

Not if the link is to an origional post. It is like posting a URL.

The presence of the image is only virtual.  The image file is not on the bitcointalk server - only a link to the image.

Removal of the image from the linked site will result in the url displaying

Such site can also block external access to the image.

In the country where I live it is not considered infringement. It is also not disallowed by the bitcointalk rules.

...and that is not even getting into the "fair use" argument or the fact that most, if not all of the images that were linked to are in public domain with no distinguishable ownership.

A lot of the memes are generated on meme makers using royalty free stock photos.

Crazy countries can make crazy laws. But since I don't live in them or plan to visit they have no jurisdiction over me.  If those countries attempt to enforce those crazy laws outside of their own country it may well be breaching the constitutional laws of the country that I live in.

In the majority of civilized countries - linking and framing is not considered copyright infringement.

In large part, linking and framing are not held to be copyright infringement under US and German copyright law, even though the underlying Web pages are protected under copyright law. Because the copyright-protected content is stored on a server other than that of the linking or framing person (it is stored on the plaintiff's server), there is typically no infringing "copy" made by the defendant linking or framing person (as may be essential), on which to base liability. Some European countries take a more protective view, however, and hold unauthorized framing and so-called deep linking unlawful.

The European Court of Justice's binding ruling in 2014 was that embedding a work could not be a violation of copyright:

The embedding in a website of a protected work which is publicly accessible on another website by means of a link using the framing technology … does not by itself constitute communication to the public within the meaning of [the EU Copyright directive] to the extent that the relevant work is neither communicated to a new public nor by using a specific technical means different from that used for the original communication

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_aspects_of_hyperlinking_and_framing

As long as Bitcointalk follows the DCMA guidelines they have nothing to worry about.

shut up fool you are a hypocritical dip shit

loads of your posts pages and pages are just content that you did not create I mean most pages of you history are filled with content that is not original.... you are probably net negative here so don't start talking to those on another level in terms of contribution to this forum.

why don't we just tell noobs to copy and paste text to an image and post it here linked from somewhere else how will that be any different ... filling up tons of spam all over the place that bots can do in seconds.... this kind of implanting of other peoples content is equally as bad if not worse and yes could actually have legal implications now or in the future.