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January 02, 2019, 10:42:46 AM
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Im here for 2 years and as a new years gift i received a permaban ("You have been permanently banned by a forum moderator, probably due to spam or plagiarism") . I dont what are the reasons or if this is a joke. Can someone tell me what happened?
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January 02, 2019, 11:19:17 AM
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Im here for 2 years and as a new years gift i received a permaban ("You have been permanently banned by a forum moderator, probably due to spam or plagiarism") . I dont what are the reasons or if this is a joke. Can someone tell me what happened?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=944973

Most likely plagiarism / copy and pasting without attribution.

https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php

The deletion log just shows the ban.


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January 02, 2019, 11:28:51 AM
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Were you given a ban email address to appeal? If so, use that to appeal if you didn't know you've broken a rule.

Check the rules first as if you've broken any, there's probably no hope in you getting your account back.

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January 02, 2019, 11:48:31 AM
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Plagiarism:
Original:
https://mobile.twitter.com/ethos_io/status/1030152102310551552

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As we continue to onboard 1000's of new users a day, we’ve also made enhancements to our Dev Dash – so the Ethos community can stay tuned in to what’s coming for Universal Wallet and the Ethos Ecosystem! (Hint: it’s a lot) https://buff.ly/2MlSssg

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https://mobile.twitter.com/voteclearpoll/status/1029650193963089920

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ClearPoll Beta is out now on Android and iOS. What are you waiting for? Try a blockchain powered opinion poll app. Vote on anything, create your own polls, connect with friends and more.
Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nextechdevelopments.clearpollB
iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/clearpoll/id1347664374
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January 02, 2019, 12:11:21 PM
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You've posted news from the Twitter without links to the sources.

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Today's workshop appeared to have four interesting focuses: KYC process in the financial business; Insurance pre-underwriting; healthcare data and blockchain; customer record. We will share it in the next few days. Please pay attention to our official channels
Original:
Today's workshop appeared to have four interesting focuses: KYC process in the financial business; Insurance pre-underwriting; healthcare data and blockchain; customer record. We will share it in the next few days. Please pay attention to our official channels.

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DxChain provide solutions to Big Data problems: 1) Maximize individual dataset to its capacity, 2) Empower data subjects to control their own data, 3) Protect personal data with flexibility, 4) Support Business intelligence and machine learning Dapp.
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DxChain provide solutions to Big Data problems: 1) Maximize individual dataset to its capacity, 2) Empower data subjects to control their own data, 3) Protect personal data with flexibility, 4) Support Business intelligence and machine learning Dapp.

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The Ethos Universal Wallet is a beautiful, breakthrough crypto solution that allows mobile users to store, track, learn, send & receive digital assets.
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The #Ethos Universal #Wallet is a beautiful, breakthrough #crypto solution that allows #mobile users to store, track, learn, send & receive digital assets.

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Next week we will reveal 2 new games that will launch before sports betting! So, guess what these games could be in the comments and one correct user, will receive 50 EDG into their edgeless platform account! (deadline - Monday)
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Next week we will reveal 2 new games that will launch before sports betting! So, guess what these games could be in the comments and one correct user, will receive 50 EDG into their edgeless platform account! (deadline - Monday)

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Announce that Bancor's #LiquidEOS has been elected by the @EOS_io community as one of the first 21 #BlockProducers! 🎉 To a free, fair and open #EOS #MainNet! $EOS
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We are thrilled to announce that Bancor's #LiquidEOS has been elected by the @EOS_io community as one of the first 21 #BlockProducers! 🎉 To a free, fair and open #EOS #MainNet! $EOS



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January 02, 2019, 12:12:22 PM
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No wonder he doesn't remember it if it's 5 months ago... It seems a bit strange if it's not spotted for 5 months and they get to gain merit and activity and waste time doing it in the process... Although, plagiarism is plagiarism unless he can prove he owns that Twitter account or got permission to copy their messages (and the recent posts might have been deleted)...

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January 02, 2019, 12:30:28 PM
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No wonder he doesn't remember it if it's 5 months ago... It seems a bit strange if it's not spotted for 5 months and they get to gain merit and activity and waste time doing it in the process... Although, plagiarism is plagiarism unless he can prove he owns that Twitter account or got permission to copy their messages (and the recent posts might have been deleted)...

A ban is a bit of an overkill in this situation. He should have posted with a source but in this case it looks like the user has been trying to be helpful rather than gaining activity on their account by copy and pasting. This is probably the first time I have seen someone plagiarize and feel sorry for them that they got banned.

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January 02, 2019, 12:34:45 PM
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unless he can prove he owns that Twitter account or got permission to copy their messages (and the recent posts might have been deleted)...

He doesn't own any of the accounts he copied and pasted the texts from since he doesn't do that from only one but from a lot of them. He mostly have posted the tweet link along with them. See below:

In emerging markets, the shallow reach of traditional money systems means there’s less resistance to new financial technology." @BW covers Bancor's & @grassEcon's community currency initiative in Kenya. https://ban.cr/BloombergKenya  
https://twitter.com/Bancor/status/1079089744309637120

We're deploying updates to the Bancor Web App leading up to the unification of Bancor’s Ethereum-based and EOS-based networks into a single experience. Learn more in our latest progress update: http://ban.cr/DecProgress
https://twitter.com/Bancor/status/1078334958991826945

Although these are the most recent ones, and he must have probably been banned for what he might have done in the past.
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January 02, 2019, 12:35:12 PM
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A ban is a bit of an overkill in this situation. He should have posted with a source but in this case it looks like the user has been trying to be helpful rather than gaining activity on their account by copy and pasting. This is probably the first time I have seen someone plagiarize and feel sorry for them that they got banned.

How about this... surely doesn't help anyone in any way:

Ontology, a new high-performance public multi-chain project and a distributed trust collaboration platform, has announced a partnership with decentralized blockchain music ecosystem platform Muzika. Muzika will develop dApps and a new music ecosystem based on Ontology’s underlying technology. Ontology and Muzika will also cooperate in events and community.

Original: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3050146.msg45476947#msg45476947
Or perhaps: https://medium.com/ontologynetwork/ontology-and-muzika-are-building-a-decentralized-music-platform-8d159f15ee03

BTW, I think users can be much more helpful by using links and quote tags. Save everyone else the time and aggravation trying to figure out their intent as opposed to clearly showing said intent. Just sayin'  Smiley

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January 02, 2019, 12:38:12 PM
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A ban is a bit of an overkill in this situation. He should have posted with a source but in this case it looks like the user has been trying to be helpful rather than gaining activity on their account by copy and pasting. This is probably the first time I have seen someone plagiarize and feel sorry for them that they got banned.

How about this... surely doesn't help anyone in any way:

Ontology, a new high-performance public multi-chain project and a distributed trust collaboration platform, has announced a partnership with decentralized blockchain music ecosystem platform Muzika. Muzika will develop dApps and a new music ecosystem based on Ontology’s underlying technology. Ontology and Muzika will also cooperate in events and community.

Original: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3050146.msg45476947#msg45476947
Or perhaps: https://medium.com/ontologynetwork/ontology-and-muzika-are-building-a-decentralized-music-platform-8d159f15ee03

BTW, I think users can be much more helpful by using links and quote tags. Just sayin'  Smiley

I don't know about that specific one but it looks like he is on numerous coin teams and has posted many ANN threads. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=944973;sa=showPosts

I agree quote tags and links should be used and eliminate all issues.

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You do a translation with Google Automatic, maybe that you get your account banned, with the reason that you in translation use two (2) languages, namely English and German, in your writing with the picture you are posting differently. this is strictly prohibited. [Your posts are problematic]

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January 02, 2019, 02:56:31 PM
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You do a translation with Google Automatic, maybe that you get your account banned, with the reason that you in translation use two (2) languages, namely English and German, in your writing with the picture you are posting differently. this is strictly prohibited. [Your posts are problematic]

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Why wouldn't Google translate announcement or white paper?

I have no idea what they would be but white is weiss (I can't do an s tsett on my phone).

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It is your JOB as community manager here to copy and paste twitter news to the thread of the same project.

If there are instances of him shitposting for bucks an not helping people or 99% of the time being net positive then bye bye.

If he is a proven member of each community he posted for and was simply updating members in the threads with the news (that devs are often too lazy to even copy to their threads here or just don't have time hence why they have community managers or snr community members)  I have been asked many times actually by teams to do this for them to their threads on this board when I was supporting (still am) their attempts to fill pieces of the trustless decentralised puzzle.


What are his other posts like? Is he a shitposter or not?? this is the key

THIS IS NOT A BLACK AND WHITE ISSUE - why are people still saying that. Theymos would not want a net positive person banned for this unless there was flagrant attempts to make money from doing it and that was their motivation not just helping people get twitter news.

I think devs should post on this board first not shit twitter anyway can't stand all this social media junk. They got their start on this board then become ungrateful and start neglecting the community on here. That is why I have said NO to helping them in that past copy their stuff here. Post it here on this board first I don't care about shitty twitter. This board is the centre of CC and this is where you put your efforts first.

Looks like trying to be helpful or something here... I can't read a lot of his stuff since different language

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg25481860#msg25481860


I think the ONUS should be on the reporters to say if the account is net positive or net negative and a general financially motivated shit poster. You get net positive people removed then you become net negative to the board yourselves.

We want rid of financially motivated shit posters who use bots to copy and paste because they do not care about putting effort and creating their own original work and making and original contribution these care nothing for ruining our environment by dilution with this usually off topic or parroting text spun shit. He does not look like this kind of person from this original presentation.

If he can present a case that he is a member of each community and bringing news to their threads from twitter that would not otherwise reach the members of that community here. Then give him a chance and just a 1 month ban as a lesson that NOW apparently everything needs quotes and good attempt at references.

I would not want to see even 1 honestly net positive member who is just got lazy once or believed it was obvious this was not his own work who was not posting just for financial rewards get a perm ban. It is not in the spirit of this board or this entire movement here.
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It is your JOB as community manager here to copy and paste twitter news to the thread of the same project.

If there are instances of him shitposting for bucks an not helping people or 99% of the time being net positive then bye bye.
That would be acceptable if he translated those tweets and posted them in translated thread he is managing.
In each ANN thread there is a link to the project official page, so what is the purpose from reposting beside the intention to bump the thread!

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It is your JOB as community manager here to copy and paste twitter news to the thread of the same project.

If there are instances of him shitposting for bucks an not helping people or 99% of the time being net positive then bye bye.
That would be acceptable if he translated those tweets and posted them in translated thread he is managing.
In each ANN thread there is a link to the project official page, so what is the purpose from reposting beside the intention to bump the thread!

I do not click offsite links at all from this forum.

I do not go and visit twitter ever regarding any of my fav projects. I actually hardly visit social media.

I want to stay on this forum for all of my crypto projects news where they were launched and where the main community can meet and discuss. I notice community fragment when you start pushing news to social media and discussions to other crap like slack or whatever

I like to see the ann thread updated with important news.

The devs teams should be doing this and i find it disrespectful to this board and the community that they do not bother bringing news to where the community is and where the project got its start. I think devs should not vanish from here and they should be available for questions from the community not just hiding up and squirting the odd bit of news on facebook or twitter.

There is nothing wrong with the latest news being brought to the specific threads for that project. It is good to keep community spirit and discuss these things on thread. It helps to see new updates and chat to others in that thread about those changes.

Bumping the thread with new and real updates/news is a good thing . If i was running a project I would insist on it but would do it myself as the dev/dev team because I would consider bitcointalk the home of my project and the first place I would update.

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January 02, 2019, 05:24:28 PM
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You are banned for parallelism and it is totally not encouraged on bitcointalk so you have very fewer chances of recovering your account.



Using an alt to post in section aside of meta by a permanently banned person is also prohibited and is against the forum rules so try not avoiding it.



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I think its a simple Copy/Paste issues and as OP stated he is here on the forum from 2 years, that means he should know the most basic rule of the forum that posting content from other websites without the source link should be considered as copy paste. There is not much point in explaining it to him with such long posts. Still, I appreciated your efforts.


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January 02, 2019, 05:31:23 PM
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I like to see the ann thread updated with important news.
They have to add updates to the original post not by paying members to bump the thread.
In our case here, the user is not one of the dev team.

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January 02, 2019, 05:40:35 PM
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You are banned for parallelism and it is totally not encouraged on bitcointalk so you have very fewer chances of recovering your account.

I kind of doubt this since most non-native English speakers use it as it's easier to read, write and post this way.  Grin

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January 02, 2019, 05:50:14 PM
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Many plagiarists try to make themselves seem "topical" by plundering twitter, ICO white papers, medium, etc for content. It's plagiarism all the same. It is most certainly not the obligation of the reader to determine the intent of the plagiarizing shithead if said shithead can't be bothered to spend 10 seconds to make their intent clear.

I kind of doubt this since most non-native English speakers use it as it's easier to read, write and post this way.  Grin

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However I don't think parallelism is a banable offence except if you fail parallel parking.

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I like to see the ann thread updated with important news.
They have to add updates to the original post not by paying members to bump the thread.
In our case here, the user is not one of the dev team.

Well that could get a very full OP.

Can you show me the rules that prevent devs or any supporting member from updating the thread with news and updates in their own ANN?

I much prefer to get a notification my projects threads are being updated then see the news.

Which project are a dev team member of and did you already post the news on the thread here before he did?

Also I am saying he should not be perm banned I am saying just for posting news from twitter in correct thread then no he should not get perm banned if he is an other wise good poster. I do not think that would be fair or sensible. Actually the action of banning him would be net negative.

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