Alternative Electricity for Mining

[chipless]

Dear Chipless,

Can you please let us all know which companies you used to work for? 

This way we will know NEVER to use them.

I barely graduated high school and even I know this doesn't work just from sitting in physics class.

And I have 2 college degree but as we all know the degree is worthless unless the person holding it knows what they are doing by experience and not just textbook. Well I have 35+ yrs experience where many people would say you cant do that and I did. I grew up with a father who was an engineer for Cray Research, Sperry, FMC and a couple other companies who did the same thing acheived goals others said could not be completed. I have partners who designed the guidance system for the air force, another holds the patents for the LNB for satellite systems, and so on as I said I am not no rookie and have verified my work with others. The internal circuits of the inverter is something you know nothing about but yet you are going to state you know it wont work.

As I said this is here for people who want to know or try if its not for you then skip the thread rather then comment on something you learned in high school.

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[Apneal]

Could you please tell us from which college so we can avoid sending our children there wasting our money??

This is the pump he's using in his example:
https://www.amazon.com/Seaflo-100PSI-Self-priming-Diaphragm-Pump/dp/B0166UBJX4/

100PSI, 12V, 5amp.

More importantly 5L/min flow rate. This is the one that can power a hydroelectric generator!

100 PSI = 689476 Pa
5L/min = 8.33 * 10^-5 m^3/s

689,476 Pa * 8.33 * 10-5 m^3/s = 57.45 J/s

a 60W pump puts out water at (advertised) 57W. WOW who woulda thunk!!


Can you at least have the decency to agree that a water pump cant produce water with greater energy than the pump is consuming? You know, like the simple math above? Of course not, you're just going to ramble on about your shitty ms paint pics and calling people names because you mistake your autism for intelligence.
 

[gsrcrxsi314]

Could you please tell us from which college so we can avoid sending our children there wasting our money??

This is the pump he's using in his example:
https://www.amazon.com/Seaflo-100PSI-Self-priming-Diaphragm-Pump/dp/B0166UBJX4/

100PSI, 12V, 5amp.

More importantly 5L/min flow rate. This is the one that can power a hydroelectric generator!

100 PSI = 689476 Pa
5L/min = 8.33 * 10^-5 m^3/s

689,476 Pa * 8.33 * 10-5 m^3/s = 57.45 J/s

a 60W pump puts out water at (advertised) 57W. WOW who woulda thunk!!


Can you at least have the decency to agree that a water pump cant produce water with greater energy than the pump is consuming? You know, like the simple math above? Of course not, you're just going to ramble on about your shitty ms paint pics and calling people names because you mistake your autism for intelligence.
 

I’m guessing he has some non science degrees lol. If any at all. Certainly no engineer.

[chipless]

Could you please tell us from which college so we can avoid sending our children there wasting our money??

This is the pump he's using in his example:
https://www.amazon.com/Seaflo-100PSI-Self-priming-Diaphragm-Pump/dp/B0166UBJX4/

100PSI, 12V, 5amp.

More importantly 5L/min flow rate. This is the one that can power a hydroelectric generator!

100 PSI = 689476 Pa
5L/min = 8.33 * 10^-5 m^3/s

689,476 Pa * 8.33 * 10-5 m^3/s = 57.45 J/s

a 60W pump puts out water at (advertised) 57W. WOW who woulda thunk!!


Can you at least have the decency to agree that a water pump cant produce water with greater energy than the pump is consuming? You know, like the simple math above? Of course not, you're just going to ramble on about your shitty ms paint pics and calling people names because you mistake your autism for intelligence.
 

How do you even know what pump I have located to do the job? I never even listed the model number.

[bittawm]

You must not be able to read because no one said it was free energy its a way to reduce energy costs.  You cant even get that straight go design some diapers.

your claim: ability to provide 60,000W of power, while only using 500W from the wall. right?

we've established that 1 watt = 1 joule per second.

1 joule is a measure of energy.

that means you are claiming to provide 60,000 joules of energy every second, while only providing 500 joules of energy into the system every second.

60,000 - 500 = 59,500 joules of energy netted from your process every second. "free"

where does that energy come from?

this is why what you are saying is not possible and why you are claiming to have free energy. anything less than 60,000W input is impossible to get 60,000W output. and thats in a perfect system, which the world is not, there are always losses.

you get no free lunch. enjoy your $400 electric bill next month.

No one claimed 60kw it was said the inverters max is 60kw get your facts straight do you know what "up to" means?

Next time to just satisfy you I will use a 3000 watt inverter for the examples. Will that make you happy and quit whining like a little bitch.
I gave a plan and parts list and also said things can be changed to suit your needs.

It shows you cant fucking read aparently. We are a forum not a fucking NASA I am an engineer lab.

ok then.

your claim: ability to provide 3000W of power, while only using 500W from the wall. right?

we've established that 1 watt = 1 joule per second.

1 joule is a measure of energy.

that means you are claiming to provide 3000 joules of energy every second, while only providing 500 joules of energy into the system every second.

3000 - 500 = 2500 joules of energy netted from your process every second. "free"

where does that energy come from?

I am not going to keep going back and forth with you enough people have shown interest by message, you stated your theory now leave it and let others decide if they want to try it. You are not their mother and dont need to control what others may want to try.

This thread was put here to share information not for you and a couple other people to harass the members. Most of you who made negative comments have probably never designed or put something together other then your plastic toys and use google for everything.

can you please keep going back and forth

doit4thepopcorn

[RiceMiner69]

I just started a GoFundMe page, raising money to send Chipless back to high school.

I'm on my 5th box of popcorn.... This is just too much.

[Jjphotos]

Why don't you just do this?
https://imgur.com/a/MhVZSzT

It seems obvious to me that if your first claim is true, that you could easily add multiple units of your setup in series, and each one would need less original input. Maybe you'd need more than two sets in series to get down to a 9v battery to power a tiny motor and the actual kit would be smaller but I've only made the motor smaller in this image. You simply need a tiny battery to power a small alternator/inverter to provide the small amount of power needed to drive your original setup.

Now I think about it, what the hell are these electricity companies doing building these large wind generators. Surely they could use a combination of your design and mine, and power it from one of these https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/toy-windmill-beach-blue-white-57747793.jpg

[gsrcrxsi314]

Why don't you just do this?


It seems obvious to me that if your first claim is true, that you could easily add multiple units of your setup in series, and each one would need less original input. Maybe you'd need more than two sets in series to get down to a 9v battery to power a tiny motor and the actual kit would be smaller but I've only made the motor smaller in this image. You simply need a tiny battery to power a small alternator/inverter to provide the small amount of power needed to drive your original setup.

Now I think about it, what the hell are these electricity companies doing building these large wind generators. Surely they could use a combination of your design and mine, and power it from one of these https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/toy-windmill-beach-blue-white-57747793.jpg

 

[chipless]

Why don't you just do this?


It seems obvious to me that if your first claim is true, that you could easily add multiple units of your setup in series, and each one would need less original input. Maybe you'd need more than two sets in series to get down to a 9v battery to power a tiny motor and the actual kit would be smaller but I've only made the motor smaller in this image. You simply need a tiny battery to power a small alternator/inverter to provide the small amount of power needed to drive your original setup.

Now I think about it, what the hell are these electricity companies doing building these large wind generators. Surely they could use a combination of your design and mine, and power it from one of these https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/toy-windmill-beach-blue-white-57747793.jpg

Instead I will use 200 of these
 
https://www.hbarsci.com/products/ph1245n8?gclid=CjwKCAiA99vhBRBnEiwAwpk-uNdqYr-KgDZtgnLdpyTcnf12wPZSo26dQipE4lcF8tTBw4627k5zCBoClhQQAvD_BwE

it will give about 200 amp charging power.

Or these that are self sustaining battery charging

https://www.zoro.com/zurn-hydro-generator-retro-fit-kit-for-5unr7-p6900-gen/i/G3627696/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y0C8_ykYiw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ_vDA7xsGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3oXvy0J4PE  Best one showing you dont need a battery to make power looks like self sustaining to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDMIMP-DlQ4 this one runs on soda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK6mzLOWhq0 how bout this one that runs on trash

There are thousands of videos showing how you can reduce or eliminate the electric cost for mining

This company sells electric motors to run wind turbines
https://www.bonfiglioliusa.com/en-us/wind/products/electric-motors-for-wind-turbines/

[gsrcrxsi314]

more moronic posts from someone that doesn't understand energy.

RE: the youtube video showing "4 ways to charge phone with free energy"

1. dc motors hooked together. energy was input to the system by him spinning it, that mechanical energy was added. he didnt show it spinning for more than a few seconds at a time. and voltage output would be very low and would never charge the phone perpetually, which is why he didnt show more than a few seconds, since the energy inputted would be wasted on the losses and little circuit he added to it. i'm betting it stopped after a few seconds.

2. wheel riding on a bike. not free energy at all. the energy was input himself by turning the bike wheel. not much else to say here.

3. magnets. this is just fake. and similar to scenario 1, will stop eventually. go ahead and try it yourself.

4. energy is being pulled from the hot water. will stop once water gets cold. just like scenario 2, it's getting external energy and will require more energy input than you get out of it.

all of these options are incredibly low voltage and power, and never showed it even increasing the charge by 1% on that phone. would never scale up to something like the power requirements of a PC

all of the videos you posted require more energy input than you get out of it. you'll never reduce your energy and wallet cost with these methods. runs on soda? but you have to keep buying soda and aluminum... lol. doesnt exactly reduce your costs.

try harder little buddy.  

[chipless]

more moronic posts from someone that doesn't understand energy.

RE: the youtube video showing "4 ways to charge phone with free energy"

1. dc motors hooked together. energy was input to the system by him spinning it, that mechanical energy was added. he didnt show it spinning for more than a few seconds at a time. and voltage output would be very low and would never charge the phone perpetually, which is why he didnt show more than a few seconds, since the energy inputted would be wasted on the losses and little circuit he added to it. i'm betting it stopped after a few seconds.

2. wheel riding on a bike. not free energy at all. the energy was input himself by turning the bike wheel. not much else to say here.

3. magnets. this is just fake. and similar to scenario 1, will stop eventually. go ahead and try it yourself.

4. energy is being pulled from the hot water. will stop once water gets cold. just like scenario 2, it's getting external energy and will require more energy input than you get out of it.

all of these options are incredibly low voltage and power, and never showed it even increasing the charge by 1% on that phone. would never scale up to something like the power requirements of a PC

all of the videos you posted require more energy input than you get out of it. you'll never reduce your energy and wallet cost with these methods. runs on soda? but you have to keep buying soda and aluminum... lol. doesnt exactly reduce your costs.

try harder little buddy.  

Its about reducing costs not eliminating them 100%

So you apply the energy to get it going then remove it until needed again. If I have to peddle a bike to get the electric motor running to start a system so it could run itself I want  Huffy BMX. No one said you dont need some energy but there are ways to reduce your power bill and mine.

[astraleureka]

do you know what recursion is? wouldn't you be able to recursively use your system to reduce the amount of power needed multiple times?

[gsrcrxsi314]

except you wont pedal to "start" it. you will have to pedal continuously to keep adding energy. and one person isnt enough to run a miner lol.

[chipless]

except you wont pedal to "start" it. you will have to pedal continuously to keep adding energy. and one person isnt enough to run a miner lol.

No thats what a small electric motor could do for you... turn the crank and spin the tire and you cant tell me that cant be done hell even use a 10 speed bike shift gears to make more or less rpm with the same amount of input power. You dont need hundreds of ft pounds of torque the PMG is free spinning with about 10 foot pounds of resistance or less

[astraleureka]

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[gsrcrxsi314]

Two things are infinite. The universe, and chipless’s stupidity.

And I’m not quite sure about the universe.

[chipless]

For a 47 mph wind simulation yo need only 8.836 f/lb of pressure per square foot. You can get that much out of a small electrical motor and the 7875 rpm needed to spin a PMG with 500w or less of power consumption. The PMG has a set drag  it doesnt increase like a gas generator or alternator does therefore once the torque and rpm is configured nothing should change. A PMG is the same thing as a dynamo and they dont increase drag the drag is the same no matter how fast you turn it.

A couple of you are the stupid ones you have been proven by thousands of people online that there are many different designs to generate needed power for either free or at a price reduction.

[gsrcrxsi314]

For a 47 mph wind simulation yo need only 8.836 f/lb of pressure per square foot. You can get that much out of a small electrical motor and the 7875 rpm needed to spin a PMG with 500w or less of power consumption. The PMG has a set drag  it doesnt increase like a gas generator or alternator does therefore once the torque and rpm is configured nothing should change. A PMG is the same thing as a dynamo and they dont increase drag the drag is the same no matter how fast you turn it.

A couple of you are the stupid ones you have been proven by thousands of people online that there are many different designs to generate needed power for either free or at a price reduction.

Wrong again little guy.

The faster you spin it, the harder it is to spin. It feels easy to spin by hand, because there’s NO LOAD. Start spinning it up faster and faster and it will require more and more torque (and power) to keep increasing the speed. You hook your 500w motor to it and it will only be able to maintain a speed equivalent or less than 500W output. Adding pulleys won’t help, because if you try to ramp up the ratio for more speed, you end up with proportionally less torque and the PMG will end up spinning the same speed (and likely slower because now not only are you spinning the PMG but also the mass of the pulleys you just added)

You literally have no clue how these things work. You just read the max output specs on the label thinking you get that all the time no matter the input.

http://www.hydrogenappliances.com/pmacurves.html

Torque Calculations:
We have no Torque figures since Torque is totally a function of LOAD. A PMA with no load requires ZERO torque to turn at a ZERO load. You can't rate PMA's with simple torque figures since "AMPS" or "LOAD" is up to every individual situation and individual people have endless configuration ideas for their
DRIVER and LOAD figures for whatever "Gizmo" they are building.

Stay in school kids. Stay in STEM.

[gsrcrxsi314]

Go back to high school and take a physics class.

[Apneal]

Just post an alternate perpetual energy system, throw in a MSPaint diagram, say you're cashing out $10,000/day from the electric company paying you to run it. Make him prove that your system isn't better, and then just call him an idiot for not believing you every post.