Ban Appeal RegulusHr and discussion on topic "good for the forum as a whole".

[marlboroza]

@great leader and global moderators, as I am very curious person and forum is source of information, meta is discussion about forum and ban thingies are related to discussion about forum (to be more precise, about forum rules), I am really curious what is the main reason why regulus didn't get second chance?

Is it:

a) 2 c/p posts
b) more than 2 c/p posts
c) c/p posts + something else

Looking forward to Your answer!

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[Pmalek]

I think it is time to finally end this saga in one way or the other. It has been going on for way too long. I don't think there is any other ban appeal thread like this one. If you are not planning to forgive his mistakes at least tell the lad that he is not coming back.

[big_daddy]

if we take a look at the ✅[BAN APPEAL] ... list ... we can see that there are only 3 users waiting longer than RegulusHr
I think that all of them deserve an answer, positive or negative

From my point of view, I still hope that RegulusHr will be marked as Unbanned asap

Best regards

[Daniel91]

It seems to me that the moderators and admins do not want to explain the reason for this permaban, after more than 8 months, and rather wait for the topic to die naturally.
I personally know that RegulusHr also did not receive any response to private messages he sent to admins what makes me sad.
In any case, I want to thank 27 users who voted in support of RegulusHr and to everyone who participated in the discussion and expressed their views on the case, positive or negative.
Too bad your opinion doesn't matter.

[marlboroza]

Looks like double standards https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240612.0

[Lauda]

Looks like double standards https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240612.0

Good case finding. If I remember correctly I was arguing against this here, and this user is definitely much more contributing than the one linked in the topic.

[marlboroza]

Looks like double standards https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240612.0

Good case finding. If I remember correctly I was arguing against this here, and this user is definitely much more contributing than the one linked in the topic.

I was curious why RegulusHR was permabaned without getting second chance like many other users here, I suspected there is something larger going on but no one really told us anything. Now, we have this spam account who got second chance and I find all this very confusing.

There were 2 c/p posts found in RegulusHR's history as far as I remember, and as for hacker, there was one c/p post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143331.msg51058321#msg51058321 (this is c/p from one of accounts I mentioned in this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5213922.msg54171090#msg54171090) and, of course, there is more c/p posts in hacker's post history(archived):

This makes bitcoin a dark currency and a currency which only bad and evil minded people uses. Bitcoin is like a big opportunity for many people in the world if used in correct way. Buying drugs with bitcoin is not a good option. Some of the sites on deep web like silk road are shutdown due to this bad use of bitcoin and people should also not try to do so.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1184641.msg23532786#msg23532786
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1184641.msg23532255#msg23532255
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2316855.msg23533421#msg23533421

This makes score 2:2
edited links

[Lucius]

I was curious why RegulusHR was permabaned without getting second chance like many other users here, I suspected there is something larger going on but no one really told us anything. Now, we have this spam account who got second chance and I find all this very confusing.

I have stated my thoughts on this thread several times during the discussion, and like most of the Croatian community, it was not clear to me why some members got a second chance at much worse plagiarism cases, while others like RegulusHr did not get anything other than complete ignore. Especially considering that this member has received the biggest support from his community than any other member who has start a ban appeal.

The only thing in my opinion that is led to this development is the fact that RegulusHR is become a merit source just a day before he got ban, and admin is notice that for sure. RegulusHR should definitely be given a second chance, nothing more or less than what others have been given.

[cryptofrka]

The only thing in my opinion that is led to this development is the fact that RegulusHR is become a merit source just a day before he got ban, and admin is notice that for sure. RegulusHR should definitely be given a second chance, nothing more or less than what others have been given.

Nope, he was a merit source for a while before the ban. We just did not know about it because he did not tell anybody he was.
He admitted it when somebody asked him and that was a few days before the ban so you probably connected these 2 things.

I've said my piece about this topic so I won't be dragged back into it again. North Korea has fairer politics than Bitcointalk.

[Daniel91]

I was curious why RegulusHR was permabaned without getting second chance like many other users here, I suspected there is something larger going on but no one really told us anything. Now, we have this spam account who got second chance and I find all this very confusing.

I have stated my thoughts on this thread several times during the discussion, and like most of the Croatian community, it was not clear to me why some members got a second chance at much worse plagiarism cases, while others like RegulusHr did not get anything other than complete ignore. Especially considering that this member has received the biggest support from his community than any other member who has start a ban appeal.

The only thing in my opinion that is led to this development is the fact that RegulusHR is become a merit source just a day before he got ban, and admin is notice that for sure. RegulusHR should definitely be given a second chance, nothing more or less than what others have been given.

No, Regulus was a merit source long before that.
In fact, theymos only a day or two before permaban doubled the number of available merits for Regulus as merit source.
Perhaps this is why the permaban, which happened after the "big reward from admin", was without the possibility of forgiveness or second chance for him.
I'm just guessing because in 8 months of this discussion we've never received any response from admin but Regulus seems to have made them very angry.
It's just my opinion, of course.
If I'm wrong I'd like to ask theymos to correct me and to say openly the right reasons for refusing forgiveness.

[Pmalek]

A lot of time has passed, it would be nice if the Administration could reconsider this case one more time and give back to the Croatian community one of its all-time favorite members. Even if RegulusHr had received a 1 year signature ban, that one would have expired by now as well.

[marlboroza]

North Korea has fairer politics than Bitcointalk.

Hm....In addition to previous my post, I have found another observable instance:

Looks like double standards https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240612.0

(edited quote):

Yes, I was involved in bumping business and I even had many other users working around me.

>>>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5210195.msg53365479#msg53365479<<<

Was RegulusHr behind ICO bump service and/or he sockpuppeted their way into DT? Why he can't get second chance like all other ban evaders and ICO fraudulent service account?


Why is this account banned and all these accounts got second chance? Or, better, why all these accounts are not banned and regulushr is?

[dkbit98]

Good point.
I also don't think RegulusHr was trolling the forum or involved in bumping services like hacker1001101001.

We are also being ignored about moderating our section, so no surprise that Unban has double standards.

I also know one more example for  member pirate hunter with plagiarism, and multiple ban evasion:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188411

1. phabulu (BPIP)- Banned
2. galahads (BPIP)- Banned
3  jujubax  (BPIP)- Banned
4  galahad_s (BPIP)- Banned
5. pirate hunter (BPIP) ?? unbanned ??  

What about RegulusHr ??
He is not good enough?

[Lauda]

What about RegulusHr ??
He is not good enough?

You can start sending PM thanks to all the global moderators, then Cyrus and then theymos for their unbiased way of handling the forum. Disappointing.

[marlboroza]

What about RegulusHr ??
He is not good enough?

You can start sending PM thanks to all the global moderators, then Cyrus and then theymos for their unbiased way of handling the forum. Disappointing.

This is even better:







This report is in status "unhandled" for last 2 days.



Here is another one "unhandled":

So, in China, carbon dioxide emissions have dropped by as much as 100 million cubic tons in the last two weeks.
That's almost six percent of global emissions.
The rapid spread of the new coronavirus, which has killed more than 2000 in China and infected over 74,000 people.
Environmentalists warn that the reduction is only temporary.
"Once the coronavirus has subsided, we are very likely to face increased production that will seek to compensate for the losses," Li Shuo said.
Meanwhile, emissions of nitrogen dioxide, a by-product of fossil fuel combustion in vehicles and power plants, fell 36 percent in China the week after New Year's holidays. As for the rest of the world, the situation is quite similar.
In most cities, as far as Europe is concerned, people mostly stick to the rules and stay in their homes.
The cities are empty but also cleaner.
In some countries wild animals are walking the streets, and there are no people at all.
The current environmental situation is actually much better than it was, but that can all change.
Do you think will the environment become polluted or cleaner?

https://www.sciencealert.com/china-s-carbon-emissions-suddenly-dropped-recently-but-not-for-the-best-reasons

But environmentalists have warned that the reduction is temporary

Meanwhile, China's nitrogen dioxide emissions – a byproduct of fossil fuel combustion in vehicles and power plants – fell 36 percent in the week following the Lunar New Year holidays

And so on...Whole post is just like that, some parts are paraphrased while the rest is nothing but blatant plagiarism. Not only report is not handled for more than a week, shitposting account lucia2015 is allowed to continue shitposting:

I think that this situation is getting all over the world, and how I said nothing will be the same after.

yes, the government should absolutely watch their people first before themselves.

yes, i would agree because this is as possible as it can happen.

Dafack is this, whats up chat room? Makes no sense with OP.

[dkbit98]

hacker1001101001 copy/pasting magic -.- last stages of mental disorder or miracle of modern technology

[Pmalek]

Here is another one "unhandled":

Isn't Lucija the 15 year old girl that mysteriously appeared last month in the Croatian section with a few posts. That's what she/he said at least.
If what she says is true, her copy/pasted posts could be the result of her not knowing that it isn't allowed and shouldn't be done. That is still not a justification for doing it.
If I remember correctly someone from the community warned her and she started adding the source links to her posts, but continued in similar fashion.
Not sure what the motives of her/him are, but I find it weird that a "15 year old girl" spends so much time posting in threads about politics and in the Off-topic board.   

[marlboroza]

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Yeah, that's the one. New account who has found bitcointalk forum to talk about merits and spam copy/pasted articles about corona virus and world pollution  C/p articles and shitposting, that's it:

Thank you very much

I fully agree with you and please stay safe.

Yeah, but these things are really helpful too

Yeah, I miss walking too, the sun, air ... let's hope that it will end soon

Well, i didn't know that i hope your air will purify as soon as possible

That's right, and good luck just have motivation!!!

If you compare permabanned RegulusHR to this not-banned shitposter, it really doesn't make much sense.

[dkbit98]

Is any moderator or mister Theymos going to take second or first look on this case?
Or we are just talking to a wall here?

[examplens]

Is any moderator or mister Theymos going to take second or first look on this case?
Or we are just talking to a wall here?

Now is going to be worse. If forum moderators accept this appeal and unban RegulusHr account, then opens the possibility for new discussions with contradiction like this. it is not to be expected to happen. I can assume confusion if there was more ban appeal positive solved.
btw. is anyone in touch with Regulus, does he have the desire to come back to the forum after 15 months?