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January 18, 2019, 02:04:11 PM |
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The way I see it, old coins are already tested through difficult times. The new coins, I cannot see how they will make it through this bear market. Some of the old coin had provisions for long duration bear market such as this and it shows. The ones that survived and keep going are now tested, their people know how to endure. The ICO coins, not so much. They burn through the money they got from the investors and then it is all over for them.
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January 18, 2019, 02:21:20 PM |
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3. will you choose to hold on to old coins or sell to invest into new ICOs?
I think it depends on each individual, if they focus on trade, I think the old coins they will choose, but if they want something completely new and realize the risks, buying the right ICO might be their choice.
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January 18, 2019, 02:23:31 PM |
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I agree with the last post, it all depends if you plan on using it for trading, the old coins are better to profit on. For new coins will be more for hodling or for actually using day-to-day.
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January 18, 2019, 02:31:16 PM |
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I think it too risky if you invest in the new coins in this situation, there are many coins after the ICO the price will dump, if you invest it after the listed in the exchange, it sure to loss the money, so I would like invest the old coins then the new one.
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January 18, 2019, 02:42:47 PM |
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Now wee can see top 100 coins on coinmarketcap has old coins more than 70%. Because every day come new coins to market without good values. But old coins have good value and good project. So i think old coins are good buy and hold.
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January 18, 2019, 02:54:12 PM |
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If 98% of over 2000 coin on CMC are meant to die and we still holding for the hope of it and the new ICOs are the risk we present ourselves to, How do we analyse our choices? I think some revelations last year should help our choices also? What about the idea of STO in the new market? and most fund that might go into new coin are from profit made from previous
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January 18, 2019, 03:03:45 PM |
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1-That totally depends on the overall market cap, if we have the same level of the market cap when Bitcoin reached $20,000 then it is very possible for Altcoins to reach its ATH too I don't see it as a difficult thing. 2-Hmm if the ICO coins represent the same idea as an old coin I guess the more established one will win, but if ICO is a coin or token with a new idea or new project they will make their own space in every investor portfolio. 3-That totally depends on the new ICO in place, I might sell weak coin on my portfolio for a new promising ICO so there is no fixed act it all depends on the ICO and what coins I have on my portfolio.
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January 18, 2019, 03:03:51 PM |
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A good project can achieve high performance even with bear markets. And what is needed for this? Marketing, good product, work with the community and good exchanges. Of course, such a project will move even after entering the market. Most projects do not balk.
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January 18, 2019, 03:38:16 PM |
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The way I see it, old coins are already tested through difficult times. The new coins, I cannot see how they will make it through this bear market. Some of the old coin had provisions for long duration bear market such as this and it shows. The ones that survived and keep going are now tested, their people know how to endure. The ICO coins, not so much. They burn through the money they got from the investors and then it is all over for them.
I sort of see it this way too. The old coins have been through incredibly tough times, and actually it only got tougher of them as things went by, like look at Bitcoin as the clearest example. But for every test passed, it seems it needs an even bigger challenge to threaten it. Like remember when the hard fork happened? Everyone thought that would be the death of Bitcoin. That didn't happen at all. It actually got stronger, so now every new hard fork is meaningless to Bitcoin. But new coins, even a hard fork can seem like the death of it. It's impossible for me to imagine what new coins can do UNLESS they find a way for utility. But how to convince people? I don't know. I don't think new coins know either.
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January 18, 2019, 03:42:40 PM |
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Old and new coins are already dying some didn't because they are truly committed to make their project alive until the next upcoming bull run but those who aren't are cowards who also doesn't have patience.
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January 18, 2019, 03:50:37 PM |
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old coins: coins that went through the bull run new coins: are ICO tokens from projects during the bear market,mostly not listed on exchanges.
It is obvious that all the aspect of the space had struggled due the giant force of bitcoin. Over the past year the average dump in price of most of the old token/altcoin from the last bull run is close to 90% while the new coin are holding to their price. Most ICOs in the later part of 2018 decided to postpone the listing which their decision could be justified or condemned as the market revives. With the approaching news of bull run and present the value of altcoins, 1. can the altcoins ever hit the ATH price even at $20000 bitcoin? 2. Can the new coin from ICO be an alternative even with so much old coin held in some portfolios? 3. will you choose to hold on to old coins or sell to invest into new ICOs?
The new coins which are released from now ICO stage are not good to invest for now in this bear market and the few kinds listed on the exchanges went to deep down in times of crisis so it is not an alternative for the points which goes through bull market in 2017.
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January 18, 2019, 03:52:39 PM |
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First question, everyone hopes that this year the bull run will come so they can recover the losses they have suffered. But I'm sure there won't be anyone who can make sure that happens, but surely when the bull run comes the price of Altcoin will reach the ATH again.
Second question, It depends on every investor who reads the potential of the new altcoin, but in the ongoing market conditions like now, every investor will have difficulty predicting and even convincing that the new altcoin can replace their portfolio.
Third question, as I said, in the second point answered, I cannot be sure that ICO projects can benefit. Most of the ICO did not qualify and were registered in exchange so as I did not want to try to invest in ICO for now, it is better to survive investing in bitcoin or holding money fiat.
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January 18, 2019, 04:07:44 PM |
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Buying new coins means new risk. To sell old coins at a loss is to lose. Perhaps now is the right time for inaction.
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January 18, 2019, 04:38:15 PM |
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Old coins are safer as they have charts to follow. However, the newer ones could have more pump potential if you're a risk taker. Bit of both would be an ideal portfolio
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January 18, 2019, 05:08:03 PM |
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It seems to me that $ 20,000 BTS is able to raise prices for all coins of the market. Even the worst. Well, of course not for long. In other matters, bitcoin has a great influence on the market.
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January 18, 2019, 05:11:07 PM |
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New coins with more prominent technology and large investment funds will easily attract investors from old coins. But BTC is unique and No. 1, no coin can replace it.
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January 18, 2019, 05:13:53 PM |
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3. will you choose to hold on to old coins or sell to invest into new ICOs?
I think it depends on each individual, if they focus on trade, I think the old coins they will choose, but if they want something completely new and realize the risks, buying the right ICO might be their choice. In fact ICO is now unlike most previous projects, many failed, they will still hold old coins because they have a bright market, these new coins are not strong on the market
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January 18, 2019, 05:14:44 PM |
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Old coins store only those in which there is complete confidence. New ico is not all but based on old mistakes and cannot be missed.
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January 18, 2019, 05:16:30 PM |
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old coins: coins that went through the bull run new coins: are ICO tokens from projects during the bear market,mostly not listed on exchanges.
It is obvious that all the aspect of the space had struggled due the giant force of bitcoin. Over the past year the average dump in price of most of the old token/altcoin from the last bull run is close to 90% while the new coin are holding to their price. Most ICOs in the later part of 2018 decided to postpone the listing which their decision could be justified or condemned as the market revives. With the approaching news of bull run and present the value of altcoins, 1. can the altcoins ever hit the ATH price even at $20000 bitcoin? 2. Can the new coin from ICO be an alternative even with so much old coin held in some portfolios? 3. will you choose to hold on to old coins or sell to invest into new ICOs?
1. yes all will follow if bitcoin goes to its peak price but nit that much because it is still bitcoin can go further with the market price increase or the bull run. 2. All coin are alternative to bitcoin new or old coin. Besides not all project nowadays has successfully launched because of bear market. Most of new coins still has the market price dip. 3. Old coins like BCH, XRP ETH are good to hold. So if you are referring to this crypto then it is good to hold.
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January 18, 2019, 05:29:21 PM |
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1. can the altcoins ever hit the ATH price even at $20000 bitcoin? 2. Can the new coin from ICO be an alternative even with so much old coin held in some portfolios? 3. will you choose to hold on to old coins or sell to invest into new ICOs?
My simple answer is, I am holding both. Not disturbing the one due to the other one. Future is always a mysterious one. We cannot be sure what are the coins which are going to have another bull run and what are the coins which nay get delisted from exchanges. Diversification is the perfect strategy, we need to follow here. Use-case wise we may have alternatives but definitely not on investment point of view. Sometimes, new coin/token with repeated concept may find success whereas sometimes, old coins will never allow similar new coins to grow up. Everything is case to case basis here. Nothing is well defined nor fixed for all the times. When diversification is the prime rule to be followed, I guess no one will sell one for the reason of buying another. Moreover, I never invest into new random things but I do participate in campaigns and do hold all my rewards with the expectation of market to turn into positive side.
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