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Update: This edition is currently uploading. Give it 20 minutes to complete, and a day for the top-navigation to be updated on all ~400,000 Trust list pages. I found BUGS ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) I've been linking these users to the wrong profile on Bitcointalk: crypto_trader#43xzEXrP Poly#Crypto HavucHamdi# This is fixed (but I didn't updat older files) ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 14, 2019, 07:59:29 AM |
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I just want to say thanks for all your work, Loyce. You've single-handedly managed to create a new level of transparency for the forum and its activities by keeping all this stuff documented and well-formatted. OK that is all. Carry on.
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September 14, 2019, 08:45:33 AM |
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What happened here? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I checked to see if I removed him by accident, and I definitely have not. Is it because he just got nuked? (Also, in an apparently unrelated bug, it seems removed entries are absent from BBcode pages, forcing me to mark up this post myself.)
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Will pretend to do unspeakable things (while actually eating a taco) for bitcoins: 1K6d1EviQKX3SVKjPYmJGyWBb1avbmCFM4I am not on the scammers' paradise known as Telegram! Do not believe anyone claiming to be me off-forum without a signed message from the above address! Accept no excuses and make no exceptions!
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LoyceV (OP)
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September 14, 2019, 09:00:12 AM |
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What happened here? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I checked to see if I removed him by accident, and I definitely have not. Is it because he just got nuked? I don't know ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) CryptoBinaryOptions doesn't show up in theymos' Trust data dump ( txt version), which gives me the impression you removed him. You should probably ask theymos how Trust lists for nuked users are handled, his Trust feedback was not removed. The Trust-update crossed my Banned-update, so he's not marked as banned yet.I've excluded him too as a test: We'll see next week. (Also, in an apparently unrelated bug, it seems removed entries are absent from BBcode pages, forcing me to mark up this post myself.) That was intentional. I mean laziness ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) But indeed, I've seen several screenshots recently to show the NEW or Removed status, so starting next week, I'll add it to the BBCode.
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September 21, 2019, 11:53:55 AM |
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Update: It's done uploading, so enjoy! The top-navigation-bar will be updated tomorrow.
I've excluded him too as a test: We'll see next week. It's still a mystery, see theymos: what's the policy on Nuked accounts and Trust lists?
(Also, in an apparently unrelated bug, it seems removed entries are absent from BBcode pages, forcing me to mark up this post myself.) Fixed: I'll remove the redundant " >" starting next week.
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September 21, 2019, 12:02:18 PM |
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Is it possible to remove the banned accounts from showing up after a while? I have a few that trust me and it looks strange when it just says "Banned" in bold red (I assume these are perma-bans anyways).
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September 21, 2019, 03:04:39 PM |
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Is it possible to remove the banned accounts from showing up after a while? I don't really want to do that, as it feels like censoring data. The banned users' Trust lists still exist, and as long as they don't get wiped, they can still use their DT1-voting-power. I think banned users can still add or remove users from their Trust list, but I'm not sure. I have a few that trust me and it looks strange when it just says "Banned" in bold red (I assume these are perma-bans anyways). Modlog only shows permabans indeed. A few users have been unbanned, and if they make a post, I take them off my banned list. There are also users who exclude many banned users. Example: I try to provide as much information as I can, including the account status.
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Hhampuz
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September 21, 2019, 03:36:26 PM |
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Is it possible to remove the banned accounts from showing up after a while? I don't really want to do that, as it feels like censoring data. The banned users' Trust lists still exist, and as long as they don't get wiped, they can still use their DT1-voting-power. I think banned users can still add or remove users from their Trust list, but I'm not sure. Ah, I was not aware they still held such powers. If they do, that seems a bit silly though and perhaps something theymos should look into (or someone else, perhaps someone that likes to scrape data to see if anyone that was banned got into the DT1 round of that particular month). It's just this one user "Maicol72" or something that got banned 4-5 months ago and every week when I check my trust list I'm used to red being a new addition or removal but nope, just Maicol still being banned. I hear you though, and understand the decision.
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September 21, 2019, 03:56:00 PM |
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to see if anyone that was banned got into the DT1 round of that particular month). Banned users can't get into DT1, but they can help still vote other members into DT1 (assuming they have enough Merit). ~I'm used to red being a new addition or removal but nope, just Maicol still being banned. That's been bugging me for a while indeed. I think I first added red NEW/Removed notifications, and later on added red Banned statuses. It's all red, and that's the problem ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I can just change one of them into another color. Choose a color, and I'll change it next week ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Hhampuz
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September 21, 2019, 04:00:38 PM |
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Banned users can't get into DT1, but they can help still vote other members into DT1 (assuming they have enough Merit).
Ah yes, I meant if any banned user helped someone get into DT1 through voting with the merit earned.. would be interesting to see. ~I'm used to red being a new addition or removal but nope, just Maicol still being banned. That's been bugging me for a while indeed. I think I first added red NEW/Removed notifications, and later on added red Banned statuses. It's all red, and that's the problem ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I can just change one of them into another color. Choose a color, and I'll change it next week ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You are correct! It's mainly the color, hah. What if Banned would be in black? Or some other dark color, with "Removed" staying in Red and perhaps "New" being in Green or some other positive color? Haha don't want to give you unnecessary work though so just do what you think is best (and thanks again for doing any of this, you are a star!).
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September 21, 2019, 04:14:23 PM |
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perhaps "New" being in Green or some other positive color? That would make excluding someone a positive green act too? It's going to be confusing if including is green and excluding is red, unless it's removing, then removing an inclusion gets red while removing an exclusion gets green? Lol ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I'll think about it this week. Changing a color isn't that much work.
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September 21, 2019, 04:15:55 PM |
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perhaps "New" being in Green or some other positive color? That would make excluding someone a positive green act too? It's going to be confusing if including is green and excluding is red, unless it's removing, then removing an inclusion gets red while removing an exclusion gets green? Lol ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I'll think about it this week. Changing a color isn't that much work. As you can tell I have not really thought this through, lol. Whatever you think works will be fine with me ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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September 22, 2019, 07:14:27 AM |
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What happened here? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I checked to see if I removed him by accident, and I definitely have not. Is it because he just got nuked? This is the reason: trust.txt.xz only includes relationships where both the truster and trustee have non-zero post counts.
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September 28, 2019, 07:22:06 AM |
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Update: It's uploaded already, so go read your Saturday Morning Newspaper ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'll update the top-navigation-bar tomorrow. As you can tell I have not really thought this through, lol. Whatever you think works will be fine with me ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I went for orange. I'm not entirely happy with it, but what do I know about colors. If someone has a better color scheme for NEW/Removed/Banned, please post.Sample: (I'll fix the missing space after NEW in BBCode in next week's update)
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September 28, 2019, 07:53:32 AM |
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<...> If someone has a better color scheme for NEW/Removed/Banned, please post.
You can try the blue or royalblue color for NEW
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September 28, 2019, 08:18:46 AM |
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You can try the blue or royalblue color for NEW Blue looks okay, I'll use it next week ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 29, 2019, 12:48:53 PM |
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**LFC_Bitcoin checks Loyce’s thread for changes in his trust list viewer & notices OgNasty has ~ him**
**LFC_Bitcoin tries to think of anything he could have done to deserve this, draws a blank & returns the favour**
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September 29, 2019, 02:15:31 PM |
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It's your list and you are free to do as you see fit. Seeing as you put it out here though I don't follow this line of thinking; it just seems retaliatory. It would have made sense to me if you had thought more on OG's feedback and inclusions to decide if you agreed with it or not. If nothing else reaching out to him and inquiring as to why?
In a purely hypothetical as I have no insight into this. If they were just trying out a new list and the next week you were no longer ~ would you then remove the "favor"?
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September 29, 2019, 02:42:08 PM |
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Seeing as you put it out here though I don't follow this line of thinking; it just seems retaliatory. It would have made sense to me if you had thought more on OG's feedback and inclusions to decide if you agreed with it or not. Agreed. Trust lists should ideally only be based on how you value the other person's judgement. I always feel like "Trust backstabbers" are the most sincere form of Trust list usage. As an example, these are all "Trust backstabbers" on theymos' Trust list: (quote heavily cropped) When evaluating someone's judgement, you should also look at their stance on Flags. For example: OgNasty's Personal Trust Flag viewer (to my surprise he's not supporting any Flags) LFC_Bitcoin's Personal Trust Flag viewer (a very long list ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) )
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September 29, 2019, 03:34:51 PM |
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It's your list and you are free to do as you see fit. Seeing as you put it out here though I don't follow this line of thinking; it just seems retaliatory. It would have made sense to me if you had thought more on OG's feedback and inclusions to decide if you agreed with it or not. If nothing else reaching out to him and inquiring as to why?
In a purely hypothetical as I have no insight into this. If they were just trying out a new list and the next week you were no longer ~ would you then remove the "favor"?
I probably trust some people who have ~ him so that’s why he’s done it. My response was absolutely retaliatory, I’ve been on this forum since 2014 & never once scammed anybody or even for one second thought about it. If he doesn’t trust me then I can’t find myself able to trust him.
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