Fucking Ponzi's and the idiots that buy into them + List of Shills

[howzar]

Lol mem, so I'm a shill because I used ONE ponzi? Your reasoning is the worst ever sorry.

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[spixel]

Spixel I know your one of the operators you been bumping your own ponzis for while now

Well, you're wrong. Wouldn't be the first time either, everything you say is wrong.

Lol mem, so I'm a shill because I used ONE ponzi? Your reasoning is the worst ever sorry.

Ignore him, just a self obsessed idiot who's mad that admins aren't doing what he tells them to do. It must help him feel better about himself to defame others.

[RiverBoatBTC]

Help defeat ponzi's by reporting them to the host/server see forum post for more info
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516588.0

[g4c]

If you look at the people playing, it's probably 95% or more newbies.  They'll learn.  It may be the hard way but sometimes it's the only way.  

<sarcasm>You're right, it's a great first user exerience for an alternate transaction mechanism!</sarcasm>

[g4c]

Help defeat ponzi's by reporting them to the host/server see forum post for more info
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516588.0

Would that include the Ponzi that has paid for thread banners?  mmmmmkay?

[RiverBoatBTC]

Yup yup

[btcmania]

I don't see the problem *if* the website is clearly labeled as being what it is....

When people invest in companies pretending to be crowdfunding such as Leancy who posed as an IT investment company and stole $5,000,000 from people, then I would have a problem.

Otherwise we all know the risks.

[mem]

If you look at the people playing, it's probably 95% or more newbies.  They'll learn.  It may be the hard way but sometimes it's the only way.  

<sarcasm>You're right, it's a great first user exerience for an alternate transaction mechanism!</sarcasm>

Nice to see some common sense being displayed.

I don't see the problem *if* the website is clearly labeled as being what it is....

When people invest in companies pretending to be crowdfunding such as Leancy who posed as an IT investment company and stole $5,000,000 from people, then I would have a problem.

Otherwise we all know the risks.

The problem is very clear for myself. 

• Its taking advantage of the mentally feeble
• it is illegal in every country and society I can think of.

[lil]ponzi's cannot work in a real world, they are designed to fail yet they advertise they work[/li]
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[mem]

shill list updated.

[jontstaz]

Wait so I'm a ponzi operator now? How did you come up with that? The admin of WeeklyPonzi made me the BTCTalk spokesperson as he has trouble accessing the site. This does not make me an operator.

[FUR11]

I don't see the problem *if* the website is clearly labeled as being what it is....

When people invest in companies pretending to be crowdfunding such as Leancy who posed as an IT investment company and stole $5,000,000 from people, then I would have a problem.

Otherwise we all know the risks.

Here's my problem: they aren't gambling.  Perhaps they are gambling in the strictest letter-of-the-law sense, but so is literally everything else in the world.  The gambling section should be for gambling games with well defined rules, payouts, and (ideally) are provably fair. 

Think about how it looks to someone just getting into bitcoins.  They come to the largest forum, and click on one of the largest sub-forums (gambling).  And oh look, it's 25% ponzis.  That's a very bad look, as ponzi's are universally reviled.  To the casual viewer, it looks like the only thing to do with bitcoins is funnel them into a ponzi.  It makes something that is already misunderstood by a large portion of the population look even MORE shady.

[apsvinet]

I don't see the problem *if* the website is clearly labeled as being what it is....

When people invest in companies pretending to be crowdfunding such as Leancy who posed as an IT investment company and stole $5,000,000 from people, then I would have a problem.

Otherwise we all know the risks.

Here's my problem: they aren't gambling.  Perhaps they are gambling in the strictest letter-of-the-law sense, but so is literally everything else in the world.  The gambling section should be for gambling games with well defined rules, payouts, and (ideally) are provably fair. 

Think about how it looks to someone just getting into bitcoins.  They come to the largest forum, and click on one of the largest sub-forums (gambling).  And oh look, it's 25% ponzis.  That's a very bad look, as ponzi's are universally reviled.  To the casual viewer, it looks like the only thing to do with bitcoins is funnel them into a ponzi.  It makes something that is already misunderstood by a large portion of the population look even MORE shady.

I already posted a link to the thread suggesting/discussing a new forum section that seems to be coming in the near future, where people can post all their pyramid/ponzi schemes they like. And the best part? You don't have to see them unless you go there by your own free will!
No more reason for people to whine!

[williamj2543]

You fucking idiots you took down ponzicoin.co. Fuck. you.

[mem]

2 shills bumping my warning, thanks shills.

[mem]

come on shills, why not shill for me

bumpy bump - adding more scammers & shills.

[zenojis]

Erm, the sites are labeled as a ponzi scheme, they aren't lying. All it is is another bitcoin gambling game, just like satoshi dice, you may win, or lose, but the person USUALY does not run away with the money

Did you just defeat your own argument before giving me the chance to do so ?

Anyway lets break it down, a gambling game has an average payout of around 95% or higher but individual payouts can range from x0 to x36 (using roulette as my example). A Ponzi's max payout is usually 80% (individual payouts being 1-7%) then they pack up and run, there is NEVER a payout greater than 100% just operators pretending to be players and their shills.

A Ponzi is a scam.

Again since Im dealing with idiots I'll give you an example.

Doing surgery without a license is illegal. 
The reason that we dont allow people to operate with a disclaimer of "derp Im actually just a butcher" is because as a society we need to look after the weaker links in our chain.

In case your not grasping my point, you strike me as the type of person who would see his local butcher/ vet to get his appendix removed and then advise others to do the same.

I actually agree with you that this sub-forum would be better without the ponzis. However, I am going to point out that you are wrong right here. Ponzi schemes payout more than 100% all the time. In fact, that is why they are so effective and alluring. The early investors pull out their money + profits and say "Look everyone! I made a huge return in barely any time!!" Then more people start investing and the whole thing falls apart once it gets too big because either A) The scheme operator decides he has made enough and runs off. B) Too many people cash out at one time. or C) Someone finds a way to prove that it is a ponzi scheme. .... Some of the "ponzi games" side step C by saying from the get-go that they are a ponzi, then they find ways to make A or B seem unlikely or impossible. The reality is of course that any ponzi scheme/game is going to end with some people getting burned.

[mem]

Erm, the sites are labeled as a ponzi scheme, they aren't lying. All it is is another bitcoin gambling game, just like satoshi dice, you may win, or lose, but the person USUALY does not run away with the money

Did you just defeat your own argument before giving me the chance to do so ?

Anyway lets break it down, a gambling game has an average payout of around 95% or higher but individual payouts can range from x0 to x36 (using roulette as my example). A Ponzi's max payout is usually 80% (individual payouts being 1-7%) then they pack up and run, there is NEVER a payout greater than 100% just operators pretending to be players and their shills.

A Ponzi is a scam.

Again since Im dealing with idiots I'll give you an example.

Doing surgery without a license is illegal. 
The reason that we dont allow people to operate with a disclaimer of "derp Im actually just a butcher" is because as a society we need to look after the weaker links in our chain.

In case your not grasping my point, you strike me as the type of person who would see his local butcher/ vet to get his appendix removed and then advise others to do the same.

I actually agree with you that this sub-forum would be better without the ponzis. However, I am going to point out that you are wrong right here. Ponzi schemes payout more than 100% all the time. In fact, that is why they are so effective and alluring. The early investors pull out their money + profits and say "Look everyone! I made a huge return in barely any time!!" Then more people start investing and the whole thing falls apart once it gets too big because either A) The scheme operator decides he has made enough and runs off. B) Too many people cash out at one time. or C) Someone finds a way to prove that it is a ponzi scheme. .... Some of the "ponzi games" side step C by saying from the get-go that they are a ponzi, then they find ways to make A or B seem unlikely or impossible. The reality is of course that any ponzi scheme/game is going to end with some people getting burned.

Im not indulging this discussion further.
Ponzi's are run by con artists and they do a great disservice to legitimate casinos, there never has and never will be an honest Ponzi.

Ive bolded your statement that I consider dangerously stupid and misleading.
Ponzi's NEVER payout over 100% this is by nature how a ponzi operates. Individual shills make claims of payouts. I covered this very clearly in the topic post how ponzi's work and you have contributed nothing new expect spreading confusion.

Please be warned I dont have the patience to debate the finer details of how:

• an obvious scam is not a scam
• It is a scam but not really
• Is just a game, newbies should read more carefully
• Hey some people claim to make money, this shit must be legit

continuing to do so will get you listed as a shill and get you on my ignore list.

[jodybay]

just saw this bitdoubler from vantix he said that he got his investment there 2x but im still a little bit skeptical about it thanks for this thread

[mem]

just saw this bitdoubler from vantix he said that he got his investment there 2x but im still a little bit skeptical about it thanks for this thread

Yes, I have some speculation about vantix...... but just speculation.

Glad it helped you avoid them, good on you for not being an idiot.

[jodybay]

just saw this bitdoubler from vantix he said that he got his investment there 2x but im still a little bit skeptical about it thanks for this thread

Yes, I have some speculation about vantix...... but just speculation.

Glad it helped you avoid them, good on you for not being an idiot.

LOL never tried fonzi it just a little bit funny when this owner advertize their new site then you will see that most of the depositor is this newbies with 4 or 8 post and 2 activity seems like their minions haha