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February 04, 2019, 09:21:22 AM
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I have nothing to do with this man - Wipro

It's a scam, nobody stopped the bounty campaign! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5082791.msg49378786#msg49378786

Post of an unknown person in my topic is the reason for negative trust?

That's what he said to that.
http://i.imgur.com/a13Fmfe.png

I changed the password on my account because I was cleaning my computer history. All passwords reset.

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Update:
Wipro admitted that he wrote his announcement by mistake, he deleted it, I also deleted my answer to his announcement, here is the archive - https://archive.is/KUUM6
He also admitted that I am not a member of his team, that even without this, is true, since I have my own bounty management team.
Thanks to Lauda for removing trust.

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February 04, 2019, 09:29:43 AM
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So what's with that post?  Are you saying you have no idea who that is or why he'd suddenly write a post stating the bounty was over?  I haven't read the whole thread past that post, but it does seem odd that Wipro would write that in your thread for no reason--and in the same oversized font, as well.

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February 04, 2019, 09:34:12 AM
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Yes, he indeed posted on your thread for "no reason". Do not ever PM-spam me again; my response was rather nice.

So what's with that post?  Are you saying you have no idea who that is or why he'd suddenly write a post stating the bounty was over?  I haven't read the whole thread past that post, but it does seem odd that Wipro would write that in your thread for no reason--and in the same oversized font, as well.
No, no. It's common for other BMs to post updates in the bounties that "you manage" for no reason and for you to never mention anything about it anywhere. Roll Eyes

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February 04, 2019, 10:45:55 AM
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It is absolutely not possible for ANYONE to give a trust rating without a reason. The burden of proof is not on the person that so rated you but it is on you to prove that the rating was wrong. What I mean is that you have to prove to Lauda that the negative trust was wrongly given. It is as simple as that. Seeking public opinion is surely not the way to handle issues of negative trust.

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February 04, 2019, 11:01:19 AM
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The burden of proof is not on the person that so rated you but it is on you to prove that the rating was wrong. What I mean is that you have to prove to Lauda that the negative trust was wrongly given.
I'm sorry, that's the most absurd thing I've read on this forum in a long time.  The person making a claim is the one who has to show the evidence, and what you wrote is the exact opposite of what you wrote in this post of yours (with a great response from marlboroza following it, btw).  In this case, I wouldn't say the evidence is a slam dunk but it sure as hell looks OP and Wipro are either alt accounts or worked together, or at the very least know each other by virtue of them being attached to the same project--which is something that OP denies.  

I'm very interested in hearing what OP has to say about Wipro posting in a familiar huge font, putting a halt to that bounty.  Kinda weird if Wipro wasn't the manager of it.

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February 04, 2019, 11:14:10 AM
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I'm very interested in hearing what OP has to say about Wipro posting in a familiar huge font, putting a halt to that bounty.  Kinda weird if Wipro wasn't the manager of it.
The only correct answer here is: "I admit that I worked with a known fraud/scammer.". When you are wrong you should admit fault as soon as possible otherwise you're just going to dig your own hole even deeper (if you are actually guilty), which is what I advised OP to do.

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February 04, 2019, 11:17:23 AM
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looks OP and Wipro are either alt accounts or worked together,
I am second one who have suspected Wipro and OP is alt. My only one question, Where is your reaction after replied of Wipro? why you had not asked him the reason why he have replied on your thread ? If someone isn't part of my team and he have updated on my thread then obviously I have to ask him why he had post on my thread with updates. You did it ? I don't think or I am missing something.

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February 04, 2019, 11:21:48 AM
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So what's with that post?  Are you saying you have no idea who that is or why he'd suddenly write a post stating the bounty was over?  I haven't read the whole thread past that post, but it does seem odd that Wipro would write that in your thread for no reason--and in the same oversized font, as well.

Could it be that this was made by mistake?

I've read in Alcedo's thread, their bounty campaign should end by 10 March.

Our Bounty Campaign starts 10th December and will go until 10th March.

However, manager Wipro pointed other date, 23 January.

Important Update
This campaign is closed today(23:01:2019) 23.59 as per forum time.
Reports, stakes related queries and any kind of work after this time will not be considered so kindly help us serve you better. I really do not want last minute hassles. ~

And despite this announcement, Alcedo campaign is still going on: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5082791.5080
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February 04, 2019, 11:25:56 AM
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So what's with that post?  Are you saying you have no idea who that is or why he'd suddenly write a post stating the bounty was over?  I haven't read the whole thread past that post, but it does seem odd that Wipro would write that in your thread for no reason--and in the same oversized font, as well.
Could it be that this was made by mistake?
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Yes, but you tell me what the odds are of a known scam manager posting on this "manager's" particular thread by mistake while his "mom was in a hospital"/"while he changed his computer historoy" or w/e. 1:1 Billion? Roll Eyes Wipro has no current running stuff that would coincide with this "mistake"; the closest thing that comes to mind is this where he got fired due to his scam management. I looked through all his thread that I could find before I tagged this user.

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February 04, 2019, 11:46:02 AM
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Is there any other connection between profiles TotSamiy and Wipro, besides this comment?

If this only message is enough to tag accounts then Wipro could post similar announcements in the topics of managers he doesn't like and these members will be tagged also.
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No; given the pre- and post-context I don't need more for this case.

If this only message is enough to tag accounts then Wipro could post similar announcements in the topics of managers he doesn't like and these members will be tagged also.
People who don't work with someone would prompty complain that this happened[1] and/or report it to moderators and would not get tagged. You're wasting your time defending fraudulent managers, which are one of the fundamental pieces supporting the problem that we have in the ecosystem.

[1] e.g. I would do all of the following as soon as I'd have seen it in my thread: Tag the user, report his post, make a thread about it. I'm sure that anyone reasonable would do the same as soon as they notice that they're being set up.

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February 04, 2019, 12:36:43 PM
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It is absolutely not possible for ANYONE to give a trust rating without a reason. The burden of proof is not on the person that so rated you but it is on you to prove that the rating was wrong. What I mean is that you have to prove to Lauda that the negative trust was wrongly given. It is as simple as that. Seeking public opinion is surely not the way to handle issues of negative trust.

Ha, imagine if that was true.

Even so proving lauda is a liar and a trust abuser will not help since all the rest are just as corrupt or scared of this imbecile lauda for some reason.

You  likely need to join the union against trust abusers OP. Have a look around on this board see what you can find.

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Is there any other connection between profiles TotSamiy and Wipro, besides this comment?
No; given the pre- and post-context I don't need more for this case.

If this only message is enough to tag accounts then Wipro could post similar announcements in the topics of managers he doesn't like and these members will be tagged also.
People who don't work with someone would prompty complain that this happened[1] and/or report it to moderators and would not get tagged. You're wasting your time defending fraudulent managers, which are one of the fundamental pieces supporting the problem that we have in the ecosystem.

[1] e.g. I would do all of the following as soon as I'd have seen it in my thread: Tag the user, report his post, make a thread about it. I'm sure that anyone reasonable would do the same as soon as they notice that they're being set up.
This post was made on 203 pages. I have no idea who this man is. You can ask SEO project ALCEDO on me. I offered him to create a bounty. Especially in the subject state that the bounty Manager it's me. I finished checking the participant reports on page 200. I didn't see any further posts.

I made a post in the subject that he is a scammer.

I have a question. Can you answer?

Anyone can write in my topic about the end of the campaign. But his words do not make sense, because I'm a bounty Manager and it was originally written in the topic. What's my fault?

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February 04, 2019, 12:54:37 PM
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I'm still interested in how this project relates to me?  Huh

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5024312.0

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February 04, 2019, 12:57:44 PM
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Are the following account also not related to your "management services":
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I asked you something already, why are you dodging? I'll also add another question: Do you have any alts? Smiley

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February 04, 2019, 01:06:31 PM
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I asked you something already, why are you dodging? I'll also add another question: Do you have any alts? Smiley
I don't have second accounts.

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February 04, 2019, 01:12:25 PM
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I asked you something already, why are you dodging? I'll also add another question: Do you have any alts? Smiley
I don't have second accounts.
What languages do you speak besides English?

Is this from today?

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February 04, 2019, 01:17:14 PM
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What languages do you speak besides English?
Russian

Is this from today?
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February 04, 2019, 01:18:08 PM
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What languages do you speak besides English?
Russian
Quoted for reference.

That does not help me nor anyone else then.

Do you have access to any of these?

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February 04, 2019, 01:24:15 PM
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