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July 26, 2020, 11:43:29 AM
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I have created a Blackjack.fun review on my site and thought I would share in case anyone would be interested. Feedback always appreciated, here or directly on that page by commenting and sharing your experiences. Smiley

https://www.btcgosu.com/review/blackjack-fun/

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July 26, 2020, 01:30:58 PM
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I have created a Blackjack.fun review on my site and thought I would share in case anyone would be interested. Feedback always appreciated, here or directly on that page by commenting and sharing your experiences. Smiley

https://www.btcgosu.com/review/blackjack-fun/
A great and honest article (review) about blackjack.fun. Since I am a campaign manager of blackjack.fun, I want to give you thank for this good job.
Two suggestions for the article:

1. According to recent announcement by blackjack.fun their maximum bet amounts are Bitcoin 0.5 ,Litecoin 5 ,Dash 5. so it should be change in the article.
2. For screenshot section you should add also a night mode theme page if you think it good to add/ ignore this suggestion Smiley



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July 27, 2020, 09:16:47 AM
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I have created a Blackjack.fun review on my site and thought I would share in case anyone would be interested. Feedback always appreciated, here or directly on that page by commenting and sharing your experiences. Smiley

https://www.btcgosu.com/review/blackjack-fun/
A great and honest article (review) about blackjack.fun. Since I am a campaign manager of blackjack.fun, I want to give you thank for this good job.
Two suggestions for the article:

1. According to recent announcement by blackjack.fun their maximum bet amounts are Bitcoin 0.5 ,Litecoin 5 ,Dash 5. so it should be change in the article.
2. For screenshot section you should add also a night mode theme page if you think it good to add/ ignore this suggestion Smiley




Thank you very much for the heads up - I have edited the max bet limits! Smiley

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July 27, 2020, 03:09:52 PM
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I have seen their start here in the forum and for a time they ran sig campaign.
But sometimes, I noticed that this thread is locked (the thread title is blurry). I don't know why?
And yet, they are still here improving things for the betterment of their site.
This kind of site is the one you can keep in your list.
What makes this place unique and beautiful is the fact that instead of like other websites where they are offering 100 different games (stake for example got to 500+ games now) they are focusing on just one place. This allows them to focus on making that one game better and actually perfect it if they can, and I feel like they are already the best game out there in blackjack, it offers a lot better blackjack experience than any other place in the business.

Obviously they still need to improve in marketing and need to get a lot more customers, when you have just one place you have to focus on getting more players because 500+ games means easier to get users, however I am sure with time they will be capable of doing that as well, it will just take some marketing, money and time.
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July 27, 2020, 07:56:16 PM
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I have created a Blackjack.fun review on my site and thought I would share in case anyone would be interested. Feedback always appreciated, here or directly on that page by commenting and sharing your experiences. Smiley

https://www.btcgosu.com/review/blackjack-fun/

Very well done! Thank you!

I have seen their start here in the forum and for a time they ran sig campaign.
But sometimes, I noticed that this thread is locked (the thread title is blurry). I don't know why?
And yet, they are still here improving things for the betterment of their site.
This kind of site is the one you can keep in your list.
What makes this place unique and beautiful is the fact that instead of like other websites where they are offering 100 different games (stake for example got to 500+ games now) they are focusing on just one place. This allows them to focus on making that one game better and actually perfect it if they can, and I feel like they are already the best game out there in blackjack, it offers a lot better blackjack experience than any other place in the business.

Obviously they still need to improve in marketing and need to get a lot more customers, when you have just one place you have to focus on getting more players because 500+ games means easier to get users, however I am sure with time they will be capable of doing that as well, it will just take some marketing, money and time.

Wow, this makes us very happy! Thank you so much for these kind words!!!

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July 27, 2020, 09:53:50 PM
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I have created a Blackjack.fun review on my site and thought I would share in case anyone would be interested. Feedback always appreciated, here or directly on that page by commenting and sharing your experiences. Smiley

https://www.btcgosu.com/review/blackjack-fun/

I agree to this review specially on its pros/cons


When it comes to that blackjack offering only then its understandable.The thing here is that they should fix that weak support options.

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July 28, 2020, 12:47:01 AM
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Are you able to explain how your provably fair works a bit more? From the FAQ:
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Provably fair algorithm:
1) Server generates random seed
2) Server seed is hashed and sent to the player. Can be seen in Menu - Provably fair
3) Player will send its own seed. Seed can be entered manually in Menu - Provably fair
4) Two seeds are hashed together with sha256
5) Output is used as seed in Mersenne Twister RNG(https://github.com/jj1bdx/sfmt-erlang)
6) Deck is generated with 4 packs of cards
7) Deck is shuffled using Fisher–Yates algorithm, with RNG provided in step 5

Specifically, I'm wondering about step 6. When you say you generated the deck, is it in the same order each time (for example, going from Ace to King with each suit), or is it randomized? If it's constant, could you add the initial deck to the FAQ just to clear things up? I don't think I'm actually able to verify the provably fair right now with the information given.

Also, I have two questions about the rules that I couldn't find an answer to:
  • How many hands can a player split to?
  • Can players resplit aces?
  • Can player hit split aces?

Thanks in advance for the response  Smiley

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Are you able to explain how your provably fair works a bit more? From the FAQ:
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Provably fair algorithm:
1) Server generates random seed
2) Server seed is hashed and sent to the player. Can be seen in Menu - Provably fair
3) Player will send its own seed. Seed can be entered manually in Menu - Provably fair
4) Two seeds are hashed together with sha256
5) Output is used as seed in Mersenne Twister RNG(https://github.com/jj1bdx/sfmt-erlang)
6) Deck is generated with 4 packs of cards
7) Deck is shuffled using Fisher–Yates algorithm, with RNG provided in step 5

Specifically, I'm wondering about step 6. When you say you generated the deck, is it in the same order each time (for example, going from Ace to King with each suit), or is it randomized? If it's constant, could you add the initial deck to the FAQ just to clear things up? I don't think I'm actually able to verify the provably fair right now with the information given.

Also, I have two questions about the rules that I couldn't find an answer to:
  • How many hands can a player split to?
  • Can players resplit aces?
  • Can player hit split aces?

Thanks in advance for the response  Smiley


Thank you for your constructive questions!

Max splits: 4
Max ace splits: 1
After ace split one card can be hit.

Deck is always the same, 2 to ace for each suit.

We improve the FAQ


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July 29, 2020, 05:22:00 PM
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I think card counting on blacjkack is not really that possible in online games, if it was that simple they wouldn't have made it so easy to not follow up and everyone would have counted cards and make a lot of money.

Since, the decks are randomized after certain period of time, you can't keep track of it and have to start over again and that would make it difficult for you to make a profit that way.

In the end we are talking about a place not relying on brute force to kick you out but a place that can't stop you from gambling if you cheat, hence they have to make sure you can't cheat and not just you wouldn't. That is why I feel like I wouldn't care how many decks and from where to where, I just play each hand like it is a brand new deck all the time and that allows me to get more fun out of it.
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July 30, 2020, 03:47:01 AM
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Thank you for your constructive questions!

Max splits: 4
Max ace splits: 1
After ace split one card can be hit.

Deck is always the same, 2 to ace for each suit.

We improve the FAQ


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Awesome, thanks for the response and clarifications  Smiley
I think the consistent starting deck means that your site can't undetectably cheat using Shufflepuff, which is great for a strong provably fair system Cheesy

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July 30, 2020, 10:52:58 PM
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I think card counting on blacjkack is not really that possible in online games, if it was that simple they wouldn't have made it so easy to not follow up and everyone would have counted cards and make a lot of money.

Since, the decks are randomized after certain period of time, you can't keep track of it and have to start over again and that would make it difficult for you to make a profit that way.

In the end we are talking about a place not relying on brute force to kick you out but a place that can't stop you from gambling if you cheat, hence they have to make sure you can't cheat and not just you wouldn't. That is why I feel like I wouldn't care how many decks and from where to where, I just play each hand like it is a brand new deck all the time and that allows me to get more fun out of it.
Well, if you mean live blackjack, then yeah, not possible because everything is considered and I'll explain.
First of all, live blackjacks are played with 8 decks and there is cutting card put in the middle and more likely you only play with 4 deck. Once shoe is unready, this 4 deck is shuffled with another 4 deck that wasn't used in game. There is possibility that shuffle quality won't be high and it may end up like it may be possible for players to count cards but in this case scanner counts all cards and shows the shuffle quality of each shoe. If it's lower than, for example 80-90% or something like this, then whole game is cancelled and letter goes to casino department / players from live blackjack supplier. Also, not only that, every player is monitored and if it seems like someone wins and wins a lot, then a lot of things are checked by risk analyst that includes shuffle quality, dealer's live performance and so on.

Also want to add that once a day, all cards are changed on all table for further security and for overall game performance (old cards are bad in this case).

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I think the consistent starting deck means that your site can't undetectably cheat using Shufflepuff, which is great for a strong provably fair system Cheesy
First of all, AMAZING name to call it shufflepuff Cheesy. Secondly in a lot of "provably fair" situations, we have to trust the casino as well, that is a new version of provably fair that I am not very interested in and happens a ton. There is this method that shows how it is provably fair if the casino doesn't go against you personally, like dude... that is literally why I want provably fair, to make sure casino doesn't have anything against me.

It could be different way or it could be anything similar but "provably fair" word is thrown around at everything nowadays even when it is not really provably fair according to me. Thank god blacjack.fun is not like that, at least as far as I know it is not like that, I don't know if anyone went under the hood and checked it but I like places that are actually provably fair.

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Really nice logo, liked it very much but to my mind you don't need a landing page where after clicking on it users go on actual page. Just leave it like it was before.

Btw what about to implement something that will help people to insure themselves from misclick? For example create tables where you have to cancel hit/stand option in 3 seconds once you click on it and then chage your decision and include tables where you just click on hit/stand and you can't reverse it. Tables where users can insure from misclick and tables where misclick doesn't matter and only speed is major priority.

Also, once again I strongly suggest you to add voices when I click on split, stand, hit. Will be great if you add advice option like: 20 on your hand, what about to stand? Something like this like in live casinos.

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Really nice logo, liked it very much but to my mind you don't need a landing page where after clicking on it users go on actual page. Just leave it like it was before.

Btw what about to implement something that will help people to insure themselves from misclick? For example create tables where you have to cancel hit/stand option in 3 seconds once you click on it and then chage your decision and include tables where you just click on hit/stand and you can't reverse it. Tables where users can insure from misclick and tables where misclick doesn't matter and only speed is major priority.

Also, once again I strongly suggest you to add voices when I click on split, stand, hit. Will be great if you add advice option like: 20 on your hand, what about to stand? Something like this like in live casinos.
I prefer the old one too which you dont need to click into something before you would able to proceed.You do directly able to see the site or gameplay on spot not with this one.Logo
is good but it isnt really that necessary in my opinion but since its there then people who do  play into this site will surely need to adjust, it does only require 1-click though.
Also im bit excited on what they had said on chatbox;
Soon we will see site upgrade. Multiplayer tables are not far anymore.
Lots of people would be interested for this update.

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August 01, 2020, 05:24:42 PM
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First of all, live blackjacks are played with 8 decks and there is cutting card put in the middle and more likely you only play with 4 deck. Once shoe is unready, this 4 deck is shuffled with another 4 deck that wasn't used in game. There is possibility that shuffle quality won't be high and it may end up like it may be possible for players to count cards but in this case scanner counts all cards and shows the shuffle quality of each shoe. If it's lower than, for example 80-90% or something like this, then whole game is cancelled and letter goes to casino department / players from live blackjack supplier. Also, not only that, every player is monitored and if it seems like someone wins and wins a lot, then a lot of things are checked by risk analyst that includes shuffle quality, dealer's live performance and so on.

Also want to add that once a day, all cards are changed on all table for further security and for overall game performance (old cards are bad in this case).
You can do whatever security you want, but if the player wants to cheat, he will try to cheat, it will be casinos job to catch the way you explained, but its their responsibility so the ball is on their court, if the casino misses, the player will basically cheat the system, if the casino catches, then player is caught and can't do it anymore.

I am not saying the system doesn't work, I am just saying that its a risk, you have to be on your toes as casino and if you are not careful and if you do not do your due diligence with the player well, you may get some cheater out of your hands and he could withdraw until you figure it out. Hence what I am saying is, obviously most cheaters will be caught, but 100% catch rate is a very difficult thing to handle.
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August 03, 2020, 04:34:52 PM
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First of all, live blackjacks are played with 8 decks and there is cutting card put in the middle and more likely you only play with 4 deck. Once shoe is unready, this 4 deck is shuffled with another 4 deck that wasn't used in game. There is possibility that shuffle quality won't be high and it may end up like it may be possible for players to count cards but in this case scanner counts all cards and shows the shuffle quality of each shoe. If it's lower than, for example 80-90% or something like this, then whole game is cancelled and letter goes to casino department / players from live blackjack supplier. Also, not only that, every player is monitored and if it seems like someone wins and wins a lot, then a lot of things are checked by risk analyst that includes shuffle quality, dealer's live performance and so on.

Also want to add that once a day, all cards are changed on all table for further security and for overall game performance (old cards are bad in this case).
You can do whatever security you want, but if the player wants to cheat, he will try to cheat, it will be casinos job to catch the way you explained, but its their responsibility so the ball is on their court, if the casino misses, the player will basically cheat the system, if the casino catches, then player is caught and can't do it anymore.

I am not saying the system doesn't work, I am just saying that its a risk, you have to be on your toes as casino and if you are not careful and if you do not do your due diligence with the player well, you may get some cheater out of your hands and he could withdraw until you figure it out. Hence what I am saying is, obviously most cheaters will be caught, but 100% catch rate is a very difficult thing to handle.
Seems you didn't understand at all meaning of my post. Player can't cheat in live casino, that's impossible if we don't mean bugs but in any way, that attempt is meaningless. The only risk that's involved here besides what's alredy mentioned, is that dealer/shuffler may know player and will try to make him/her win. This can be done by seeing hidden card and then telling player by mimics or etc whether they'll win or not.
There was even one accident in Riga when shuffler had camera on his shirt and it was like he could record video from and was shuffling in a way where it was possible for camera to catch the cards and make player understand what cards they were, as a result, player won a lot. But as I told you, there is constant monitoring of everything, everywhere and this was fixed pretty soon. There are floor supervisors for that, shuffler team leaders, risk analysts, customer supports, service managers, schedulers and etc that monitor all of these.

Risks to cheat from employees are minimal and in case, fixed very quickly. On another hand, player can't cheat on his own.

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August 03, 2020, 05:18:53 PM
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I prefer the old one too which you dont need to click into something before you would able to proceed.You do directly able to see the site or gameplay on spot not with this one.Logo
is good but it isnt really that necessary in my opinion but since its there then people who do  play into this site will surely need to adjust, it does only require 1-click though.
Also im bit excited on what they had said on chatbox;
Soon we will see site upgrade. Multiplayer tables are not far anymore.
Lots of people would be interested for this update.
Yeah the old one was definitely better. I think the only thing I would change on this website would be the design, the fun aspect, the people, the system everything is great and I find it very unique as well, it is quite cool and I definitely do agree that it would be awesome if the change to design would happen in a way that it would be more minimalistic and more generic.

I know trying to be unique is one of the things you guys are really aiming and that is why you would want to be basically different than any other place, but on the path to being different there was a situation where you guys became a bit too much, I think less is more and you could definitely reel it back in a bit and you could just make it more minimalistic, definitely a great change if you could change it.

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August 03, 2020, 09:02:20 PM
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I prefer the old one too which you dont need to click into something before you would able to proceed.You do directly able to see the site or gameplay on spot not with this one.Logo
is good but it isnt really that necessary in my opinion but since its there then people who do  play into this site will surely need to adjust, it does only require 1-click though.
Also im bit excited on what they had said on chatbox;
Soon we will see site upgrade. Multiplayer tables are not far anymore.
Lots of people would be interested for this update.
Yeah the old one was definitely better. I think the only thing I would change on this website would be the design, the fun aspect, the people, the system everything is great and I find it very unique as well, it is quite cool and I definitely do agree that it would be awesome if the change to design would happen in a way that it would be more minimalistic and more generic.

I know trying to be unique is one of the things you guys are really aiming and that is why you would want to be basically different than any other place, but on the path to being different there was a situation where you guys became a bit too much, I think less is more and you could definitely reel it back in a bit and you could just make it more minimalistic, definitely a great change if you could change it.


Thank you for the suggestions!
Good ones!


Previous theme also exists. Just need to press day version. At the moment the night version is by default.
Ok, we will build also one super minimal theme.


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