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February 07, 2019, 05:22:43 AM |
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I simply never understood why all of you fight one another.
I excluded almost everyone from my list due to being attacked for jacking my score up and have been off DT1 list for a while.
I don't like getting dragged into these arguements.
Over time I have exchanged many pm's with
Lauda suchmoon OgNasty
and I actually get along with the three of you fairly well.
But you guys or girls or cats fight hard against each other.
I don't know much about thepharmicist, but he seems to have a fan club and a hate club.
And here I am writing on a thread that is bound to get me going again.
oh I added
OgNasty suchmoon sidehack frodocooper Lauda
to my list the last few days
of course I now jump back up to 671 trust number vs 221
but I am moody so why not
I can always pull them off.
lets see how long before I get screwed with.
It's about being right or wrong... Don't be a pussy your trust is outstanding. Stand up for whats right. would you trust Ognasty with a $ knowing he has a great full history of trades or would you trust Lauda with your $ knowing she has never made a trade deal in her entire history with BCT? Lauda has a higher Rating than Ognasty LOL Hey I like pussy but that is not the point. I have been given a lot of grief over trust. Lauda used to bust a lot of assholes and scammers. OgNasty has done a lot of good trades but he has freaked over a few guys escrows. Suchmoon has been really solid support to me when I was threatened by GAW-zen miners Josh G years ago. So all three people have helped me. now I have a mailing contact to OgNasty I don't for Lauda. I don't for Suchmoon. One of the reasons I dropped almost everyone off my list was I don't know: real names phone number and addresses makes it harder to trust if I can't get to them. most people on the list I had I good contact for real. Maybe trust should have real name KYC or not be there at all. Kind of why I don't like writing on these threads. sorry Phillip im in Ma. too North Adams near the VT. line. i just don't agree with you.
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otrkid1970
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February 07, 2019, 05:25:07 AM |
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It's about being right or wrong... Don't be a pussy your trust is outstanding. Stand up for whats right. would you trust Ognasty with a $ knowing he has a great full history of trades or would you trust Lauda with your $ knowing she has never made a trade deal in her entire history with BCT? Lauda has a higher Rating than Ognasty LOL
Lauda has never done a deal via Bitcointalk? Lauda offers escrow services among other things. Perhaps you should do a bit more research before typing nonsense. You do realize that P2P trades aren't the only economic activity going on within this forum. Correct? I wouldn't trust Lauda with a single $ of my money. but yet she is stiill on my trusted list why?
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mikeywith
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February 07, 2019, 05:31:11 AM |
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most of you you 3rd world fucks dont understand the concepts of freedom
fuck off please with your non-sense.
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February 07, 2019, 05:33:01 AM |
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It's about being right or wrong... Don't be a pussy your trust is outstanding. Stand up for whats right. would you trust Ognasty with a $ knowing he has a great full history of trades or would you trust Lauda with your $ knowing she has never made a trade deal in her entire history with BCT? Lauda has a higher Rating than Ognasty LOL
Lauda has never done a deal via Bitcointalk? Lauda offers escrow services among other things. Perhaps you should do a bit more research before typing nonsense. You do realize that P2P trades aren't the only economic activity going on within this forum. Correct? I wouldn't trust Lauda with a single $ of my money. but yet she is stiill on my trusted list why? There is a remedy for that. Go into your trust settings and type the following; You can distrust anyone else you think doesn't have valuable input either. Also, you can add whoever you like by just typing in their username. Very simple. If you are confident enough in your list and feel it will keep you safe, then remove DefaultTrust from your list.
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mikeywith
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February 07, 2019, 05:35:58 AM |
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I am pretty sure they know these things already, the are probably alts of some old members, look at their profile, most of them are newbies who don't even have 10 merit, why would a newbie care this much about DT bullshit?
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H8bussesNbicycles
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February 07, 2019, 05:36:35 AM |
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It's about being right or wrong... Don't be a pussy your trust is outstanding. Stand up for whats right. would you trust Ognasty with a $ knowing he has a great full history of trades or would you trust Lauda with your $ knowing she has never made a trade deal in her entire history with BCT? Lauda has a higher Rating than Ognasty LOL
Lauda has never done a deal via Bitcointalk? Lauda offers escrow services among other things. Perhaps you should do a bit more research before typing nonsense. You do realize that P2P trades aren't the only economic activity going on within this forum. Correct? I wouldn't trust Lauda with a single $ of my money. but yet she is stiill on my trusted list why? because ""scambusters"" ""busting"" petty scams is more trustworthy than the political direction of cryptocurrency they are throwing away the main goal of satoshi in favor of the temporary safety of idiots at the expence of essential liberty for all laudas thousands of ratings are only copies of others anyway hundreds a day to catch up and be the top red trust sender (must i produce a quote ?)
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OgNasty
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February 07, 2019, 05:36:44 AM |
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OgNasty has done a lot of good trades but he has freaked over a few guys escrows.
I think that’s a bit of a misconception. I’ve actually helped quite a few escrow agents here. I’ve directed users looking for escrow to minerjones, Blazed, krogomanhattan, and you philipma. If you think my warnings about scam escrows are freaking out, I urge you to invest in the next ICO Lauda escrows for. You’ll be a great addition to the DefaultTrust network. I have no doubt.
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H8bussesNbicycles
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February 07, 2019, 05:42:02 AM |
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it will keep you safe
fuck safety the are probably alts of some old members, look at their profile, most of them are newbies who don't even have 10 merit, why would a newbie care this much about DT bullshit?
no shit Sherlock possibly you should take heed in our warnings we fight to be free from tyrants petty scammers are the least of our worries compared to tyrannical dictators
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TheNewAnon135246
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February 07, 2019, 05:43:58 AM |
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I wouldn't say I hate OgNasty but I do believe he shouldn't be in DT so I'm glad to see him with -1 again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtviewNot sure who excluded him (or removed an inclusion perhaps) but it feels like balance has been restored to the Universe. However I'd like to encourage other DT1 members to review OgNasty's trust list and include any DT2 members that you consider worthy. I trust 0gNasty unlike some others on the DT list. 0gNasy had a good trade reputation which is what the DT was meant for. I would trust him with $$ unlike MANY many of the DT list users that are on that list with ZERO trade rep. Fuck you if you don't like that answer. I agree but he has been acting very childish lately. No idea what happened but his current behaviour doesn't suit DT1 imo. So maybe you should RED tag him? is that what your saying? He Doesn't meet your expectations so lets Red tag him? Remove him from DT? what are you saying? I would never leave negative trust simply for disagreeing with him, neither would I disrecommend anyone to use him as escrow.
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philipma1957
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February 07, 2019, 05:51:03 AM |
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OgNasty has done a lot of good trades but he has freaked over a few guys escrows.
I think that’s a bit of a misconception. I’ve actually helped quite a few escrow agents here. I’ve directed users looking for escrow to minerjones, Blazed, krogomanhattan, and you philipma. If you think my warnings about scam escrows are freaking out, I urge you to invest in the next ICO Lauda escrows for. You’ll be a great addition to the DefaultTrust network. I have no doubt. A lot really good . A few I thought were not good. Say at least 100 good but 2 maybe 3 I thought you were wrong. But wtf do I know? Not much if I did I would not have posted on this thread . Trust list is really hard to create correctly. One of the reasons I dropped so many off my list is I did not think I could do it well enough.
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February 07, 2019, 05:55:30 AM |
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It's about being right or wrong... Don't be a pussy your trust is outstanding. Stand up for whats right. would you trust Ognasty with a $ knowing he has a great full history of trades or would you trust Lauda with your $ knowing she has never made a trade deal in her entire history with BCT? Lauda has a higher Rating than Ognasty LOL
Lauda has never done a deal via Bitcointalk? Lauda offers escrow services among other things. Perhaps you should do a bit more research before typing nonsense. You do realize that P2P trades aren't the only economic activity going on within this forum. Correct? Which is absolute nonsense; yet more lies being spread by a random alt and then they complain that they get tagged for untrustworthy behavior. Their lack of knowledge is why they are unable to do trades without damaging their own privacy. I simply never understood why all of you fight one another.
I excluded almost everyone from my list due to being attacked for jacking my score up and have been off DT1 list for a while.
I don't like getting dragged into these arguements. -snip-
This is actually what I've observed with quite a few people. The rational decision solely for the individual is to not do anything, i.e. it's not worth getting involved for them. I wouldn't either; being out of DT is simpler/easier/better if one already isn't tagging abusers anyways IMO.
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February 07, 2019, 06:11:02 AM |
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I find it pretty funny that this ac2 guy keeps insisting the "Gang" keeps growing... I don't even know foxpup myself, as he must be on DT2. Maybe you could try send him a pm with your issues , as I don't think it's worthy of red trust either? 🤷♂️ He already did. It didn't go as well as he hoped: Look at my trust right now,does their feedback appropriate? accused me of conspiracy by distrusting people that i wanted to? looks like they are abusing the trust system..I am not active for months but i logged in everyday and read some useful threads and then by customizing my trustlist gives me a redtrust?
You know, you might have had a chance at convincing me to remove your negative trust had you not got your accounts mixed up when PMing me about it. What a way to burn an alt.
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February 07, 2019, 10:31:26 AM |
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I simply never understood why all of you fight one another. That's the politics/power-part that I hate most about the current DT-system. On the one hand it means DT doesn't just accept things from other DTs, on the other hand it now means some of the biggest names on the forum are fighting each other. I do believe the forum and Bitcoin ecosystem would be better off following theymos' advice: All that being said, I still discourage retaliatory ratings, and with these changes I encourage people to try to "bury the hatchet" and de-escalate rather than trying to use any increased retaliatory power you now have. - You should be willing to forgive past mistakes if the person seems unlikely to do it again. oh I added
OgNasty suchmoon sidehack frodocooper Lauda
to my list the last few days
of course I now jump back up to 671 trust number vs 221 Adding people to your trust list heavily changes it from DT-view. You're currently at 128: -0 / +13. One of the reasons I dropped almost everyone off my list was I don't know:
real names phone number and addresses
makes it harder to trust if I can't get to them. Interesting approach. I don't know nor care about real names or addresses, and I'm certainly not willing to provide mine.
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February 07, 2019, 11:02:05 AM |
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I simply never understood why all of you fight one another. That's the politics/power-part that I hate most about the current DT-system. On the one hand it means DT doesn't just accept things from other DTs, on the other hand it now means some of the biggest names on the forum are fighting each other. I do believe the forum and Bitcoin ecosystem would be better off following theymos' advice: All that being said, I still discourage retaliatory ratings, and with these changes I encourage people to try to "bury the hatchet" and de-escalate rather than trying to use any increased retaliatory power you now have. - You should be willing to forgive past mistakes if the person seems unlikely to do it again. Last time I checked we don't live in an Utopia, do we? From what I've seen, most of the time when such advice was followed around here it turned out to be mistake. Although this mostly has applied to randoms and people that are very-shady like Quickscammer.
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February 07, 2019, 11:10:07 AM |
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It's very difficult to trust real people you know and see everyday IRL, not to talk about the anonymous users in a forum full of scammers (even trusted ones like TF and Magicaltux). Basically trust is not the most accurate word to describe the situation with the trust lists we (the DTs) are into . It's more like to agree with the perception and the reaction in different situations of the user, as you don't have other overview except his participation in the forum. I don't think there can be real trust here in the forum involved in the trust lists.
The trust feedback is another thing, a bit more acceptable as you risk some amount based on trust and you can confirm or reject users's trustfulness based on your deals.
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February 07, 2019, 11:15:57 AM |
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It's about being right or wrong... Don't be a pussy your trust is outstanding. Stand up for whats right. would you trust Ognasty with a $ knowing he has a great full history of trades or would you trust Lauda with your $ knowing she has never made a trade deal in her entire history with BCT? Lauda has a higher Rating than Ognasty LOL
Lauda has never done a deal via Bitcointalk? Lauda offers escrow services among other things. Perhaps you should do a bit more research before typing nonsense. You do realize that P2P trades aren't the only economic activity going on within this forum. Correct? Which is absolute nonsense; yet more lies being spread by a random alt and then they complain that they get tagged for untrustworthy behavior. Their lack of knowledge is why they are unable to do trades without damaging their own privacy. I simply never understood why all of you fight one another.
I excluded almost everyone from my list due to being attacked for jacking my score up and have been off DT1 list for a while.
I don't like getting dragged into these arguements. -snip-
This is actually what I've observed with quite a few people. The rational decision solely for the individual is to not do anything, i.e. it's not worth getting involved for them. I wouldn't either; being out of DT is simpler/easier/better if one already isn't tagging abusers anyways IMO. Lies equal untrustworthy behaviour that deserve red tags you say lauda. Shame that none of the other DT members agree with you and actually believe proven liars deserve to be on DT.
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My ratings aren’t worthless nor is my ego fragile. Your continued attempts to control the narrative with nonsense is noticed. People can review my trust ratings themselves and see they are of value. Don’t pretend that my exclusion is about anything other than retaliation for prior exclusions while I was tasked with being one of only a few DT members willing to risk being publicly unpopular for the accuracy of the trust network. In fact, I’m now being crucified by those whom I excluded for not being able to accurately judge the value of trust ratings. Had I cared about my ego, I would have put myself before the forum and acted in a way that wouldn’t have made unstable users want to enact revenge, as they are doing now.
You can say I’m an idiot for donating so much of my time and money to a community project. You can say I’m a fool for risking my reputation as the most trusted user here in order to maintain a reasonably honest DT network and not empower known extortionists. You saying my ratings aren’t valuable though? That is nonsense. More likely you are blinded by politics and acting irrationally out of emotion.
I had excluded you long before any of this drama and before you excluded me so I'm not the one pretending and pushing a narrative here. I have also spoken out against your petty ratings well before all this. You're just too stubborn to admit that neg-trusting someone for posting in your thread or criticizing you was a mistake. "Most trusted user" is not a title you bestow upon yourself, it's something that should be left for others to decide. This shameless tooting of your own horn is just one more reason to not trust your judgement.
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February 07, 2019, 06:11:04 PM |
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theres no such thing as "lies" if there are proofs from most of the people that you are a liar and proven extorionist
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February 07, 2019, 06:16:29 PM |
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sorry Phillip im in Ma. too North Adams near the VT. line. i just don't agree with you.
Did you just give away a whole bunch of info about where Philipma1957 lives? If all three of us are New Englanders, why is it you write like you're from nowhere the English language is ever spoken? Just curious. Maybe we should all get together and have a hug-out or something.
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