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February 06, 2019, 06:24:23 AM
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I'd rather read a poster that's posted just one thousand quality post versus ten thousand unbalanced posts such as your hero "Bruno".

What does that have to do with the fact that you're wrong about Cryptohunter being Bruno?

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February 06, 2019, 09:31:36 AM
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Let me quote this for attention:
All that being said, I still discourage retaliatory ratings, and with these changes I encourage people to try to "bury the hatchet" and de-escalate rather than trying to use any increased retaliatory power you now have.
- You should be willing to forgive past mistakes if the person seems unlikely to do it again.
It seems to me the opposite is happening since the DT-changes.

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February 06, 2019, 09:42:43 AM
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Let me quote this for attention:
All that being said, I still discourage retaliatory ratings, and with these changes I encourage people to try to "bury the hatchet" and de-escalate rather than trying to use any increased retaliatory power you now have.
It seems to me the opposite is happening since the DT-changes.
Where exactly is this happening? Link?

- You should be willing to forgive past mistakes if the person seems unlikely to do it again.
Good luck convincing a certain people about this. I've been privately suggesting a downgrade to neutral in a few disputes recently.

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February 06, 2019, 09:50:19 AM
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That's clear abuse, awarding merit for political reasons rather than any idea of quality

So the guy who received 78 mertis mainly from DT members for a short movie descrediting us are legit based on the idea of quality ?

Its funny cause based on the users history you can clearly see he creates threads which gets him quickly merits like giveaways.
Of course the massiv meriting of that crap has no political reason.
I guess 2 more such videos and the guy will be with a 1 month old account in DT1

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105303.0

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February 06, 2019, 09:53:17 AM
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That's clear abuse, awarding merit for political reasons rather than any idea of quality

So the guy who received 78 mertis mainly from DT members for a short movie descrediting us are legit based on the idea of quality ?

Its funny cause based on the users history you can clearly see he creates threads which gets him quickly merits like giveaways.
Of course the massiv meriting of that crap has no political reason.
I guess 2 more such videos and the guy will be with a 1 month old account in DT1

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105303.0

Well I didn't actually watch the movie. But still he went through the trouble to actually create something.

While you might disagree with his views I don't see why this doesn't deserver 78 merits.

I have seen one liners "deserve" 50 merits at once. Don't get me started on memes.

Edit:

I see it as unlikely that an account tied to a service as this one seems will ever be made DT.
I would personally exclude it to avoid any risk of collusion.
Moreover said account doesn't even have a trust list and I don't believe he even cares about merit/trust.


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February 06, 2019, 09:56:30 AM
Last edit: February 06, 2019, 10:54:14 AM by Thule
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That's clear abuse, awarding merit for political reasons rather than any idea of quality

So the guy who received 78 mertis mainly from DT members for a short movie descrediting us are legit based on the idea of quality ?

Its funny cause based on the users history you can clearly see he creates threads which gets him quickly merits like giveaways.
Of course the massiv meriting of that crap has no political reason.
I guess 2 more such videos and the guy will be with a 1 month old account in DT1

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105303.0

Well I didn't actually watch the movie. But still he went through the trouble to actually create something.

While you might disagree with his views I don't see why this doesn't deserver 78 merits.

I have seen one liners "deserve" 50 merits at once. Don't get me started on memes.

And at the same time you call it abuse when somebody merits other user 2-5 merits for their actions against a group he belives is corrupt.
And sorry to say it but that user would never get 79 merits if that topic wouldn't be about us.

But i guess thats also in accordance to that

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That's clear abuse, awarding merit for political reasons rather than any idea of quality

If theymos thinks that a single video is worth more (in voting power as closer to 250) than what majority of users have done on bitcointalk over years than i feel sorry for this board.

Am waiting for a statement on this.If this will be approved as allowed i'm going to ehwore myself up to 250 merits withing a week by offering giveaways.

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February 06, 2019, 09:57:15 AM
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Let me quote this for attention:
All that being said, I still discourage retaliatory ratings, and with these changes I encourage people to try to "bury the hatchet" and de-escalate rather than trying to use any increased retaliatory power you now have.
- You should be willing to forgive past mistakes if the person seems unlikely to do it again.
It seems to me the opposite is happening since the DT-changes.

For an example I've seen myself of "past mistakes", may I recommend jeremypwr : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=137185

I'm only mentioning him because I interacted with him through his signature campaign, which he pays out on time, and since he's currently managing 2 campaigns it generally means he can be trusted with a decent sum of money. The first time I've seen his trust rating I thought it was hilarious for him to be tagged for something he did 5 years ago, even it being a ponzi promotion.

I'm sure there are a shitload of similar examples, especially red ratings for one-time actions that aren't straight up thefts, and more like lack of knowledge or better judgement. But if anything, theymos's message should mean future ratings should be more focused on the time being rather than digging up small dirt on people from distant past actions.

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February 06, 2019, 09:59:18 AM
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For an example I've seen myself of "past mistakes", may I recommend jeremypwr : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=137185
Very bad example. His stuff is very fresh.

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February 06, 2019, 10:02:16 AM
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For an example I've seen myself of "past mistakes", may I recommend jeremypwr : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=137185
Very bad example. His stuff is very fresh.

What are you even talking about? I've read this one before but how is it related to a scam? A user blackmailed bbc.reporter, got an emotional reaction from jeremypwr, but then he regretted it and added him back into the campaign. bbc.reporter (the blackmailed) and jeremypwr are on good terms now, so I seriously fail to see how is this even worthy of mention???

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February 06, 2019, 10:03:54 AM
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For an example I've seen myself of "past mistakes", may I recommend jeremypwr : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=137185
Very bad example. His stuff is very fresh.
What are you even talking about? I've read this one before but how is it related to a scam? A user blackmailed bbc.reporter, got an emotional reaction from jeremypwr, but then he regretted it and added him back into the campaign. bbc.reporter (the blackmailed) and jeremypwr are on good terms now, so I seriously fail to see how is this even worthy of mention???
Because a good and trustworthy campaign manager kicks you out for calling him a "a little child". Right, not worth mentioning at all. Stick to managers that are actually good e.g. Yahoo and Hhampuz; the forum doesn't need ponzi children.

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February 06, 2019, 10:04:52 AM
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For an example I've seen myself of "past mistakes", may I recommend jeremypwr : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=137185
Very bad example. His stuff is very fresh.

What are you even talking about? I've read this one before but how is it related to a scam? A user blackmailed bbc.reporter, got an emotional reaction from jeremypwr, but then he regretted it and added him back into the campaign. bbc.reporter (the blackmailed) and jeremypwr are on good terms now, so I seriously fail to see how is this even worthy of mention???


Because of business competition.
He is not in the cult.

Easy answer .Funny you still didn't noticed it


What is Lauda and its cult mainly doing ?Oh sorry campaign management.

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February 06, 2019, 10:06:17 AM
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For an example I've seen myself of "past mistakes", may I recommend jeremypwr : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=137185
Very bad example. His stuff is very fresh.

What are you even talking about? I've read this one before but how is it related to a scam? A user blackmailed bbc.reporter, got an emotional reaction from jeremypwr, but then he regretted it and added him back into the campaign. bbc.reporter (the blackmailed) and jeremypwr are on good terms now, so I seriously fail to see how is this even worthy of mention???

Because of business competition.
He is not in the cult.

Easy answer .Funny you still didn't noticed it
What is Lauda and its cult mainly doing ?Oh sorry campaign management.
That is a lie, and yet you wonder why your rating is that low. Tongue Theymos really needs to add an edit button to lower the practice of having to replace ratings.

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February 06, 2019, 10:09:24 AM
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For an example I've seen myself of "past mistakes", may I recommend jeremypwr : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=137185
Very bad example. His stuff is very fresh.

What are you even talking about? I've read this one before but how is it related to a scam? A user blackmailed bbc.reporter, got an emotional reaction from jeremypwr, but then he regretted it and added him back into the campaign. bbc.reporter (the blackmailed) and jeremypwr are on good terms now, so I seriously fail to see how is this even worthy of mention???

Because of business competition.
He is not in the cult.

Easy answer .Funny you still didn't noticed it
What is Lauda and its cult mainly doing ?Oh sorry campaign management.
That is a lie, and yet you wonder why your rating is that low. Tongue Theymos really needs to add an edit button to lower the practice of having to replace ratings.


What is a lie ?That your cult is focusing on campaign management ?
You want me to call me out on this ?

Or maybe my old statements that your cult wanted to force all project owners to accept your own made campaign rules and to only accept your members or else they will get defamed as scammers ?
Which one you wanna call me out ?

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February 06, 2019, 10:11:55 AM
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What are you even talking about? I've read this one before but how is it related to a scam? A user blackmailed bbc.reporter, got an emotional reaction from jeremypwr, but then he regretted it and added him back into the campaign. bbc.reporter (the blackmailed) and jeremypwr are on good terms now, so I seriously fail to see how is this even worthy of mention???
Because a good and trustworthy campaign manager kicks you out for calling him a "a little child". Right, not worth mentioning at all. Stick to managers that are actually good e.g. Yahoo and Hhampuz; the forum doesn't need ponzi children.

- You should be willing to forgive past mistakes if the person seems unlikely to do it again.

If his trust rating is red because of ponzi promotion, and it's very unlikely for him to dabble into that after 5 years, then in my opinion it's undeserved at the moment, and should be re-considered.

But whatever buddy, way I see it you're acting exactly the same way as him. First because it came from me, so you're being stubborn. And second, because generally speaking getting you to remove a trust rating hurts your ego, because it makes you look like you were wrong.

The more interactions I have with you, the more I see that you act a lot more based on emotions rather than reason. It's not necessarily bad, because you can still be a "good" person judging people subjectively. But it becomes bad once you get on the bad side of someone, and your judgement becomes clouded by your personal opinions. a.k.a me, OgNasty, and -I don't follow enough drama to cite any more people, but they do exist-.

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February 06, 2019, 10:13:38 AM
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For an example I've seen myself of "past mistakes", may I recommend jeremypwr : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=137185
Very bad example. His stuff is very fresh.

What are you even talking about? I've read this one before but how is it related to a scam? A user blackmailed bbc.reporter, got an emotional reaction from jeremypwr, but then he regretted it and added him back into the campaign. bbc.reporter (the blackmailed) and jeremypwr are on good terms now, so I seriously fail to see how is this even worthy of mention???
Because of business competition.
He is not in the cult.

Easy answer .Funny you still didn't noticed it
What is Lauda and its cult mainly doing ?Oh sorry campaign management.
That is a lie, and yet you wonder why your rating is that low. Tongue Theymos really needs to add an edit button to lower the practice of having to replace ratings.
What is a lie ?That your cult is focusing on campaign management ?
You want me to call me out on this ?
Exactly; that is a complete and utter lie. Maybe if you hand picked 1-2 people out of 20+ to be the only cult members then you could actually claim that the cult focuses on campaign management.

Yahoo is not a cult member and I do advocate for his management. Or maybe he secretely is? Hmm.

But whatever buddy, way I see it you're acting exactly the same way as him. First because it came from me, so you're being stubborn. And second, because generally speaking getting you to remove a trust rating hurts your ego, because it makes you look like you were wrong.
Here we go, another reputation attack with lies. I'm sure that's gonna work out just nicely - not that I'm allowed to do anything about anything other than speak up; the dark-arts master thermos has me in chains now.

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February 06, 2019, 10:16:41 AM
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Isn't he always defending you and making false accusations to discredit people who are attacking you?

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Yahoo is not a cult member and I do advocate for his management. Or maybe he secretely is? Hmm.
Isn't he always defending you and making false accusations to discredit people who are attacking you?
You mean where he says we should maybe give out neutrals for account sales? Yeah right.

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February 06, 2019, 10:19:27 AM
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Yahoo is not a cult member and I do advocate for his management. Or maybe he secretely is? Hmm.
Isn't he always defending you and making false accusations to discredit people who are attacking you?
You mean where he says we should maybe give out neutrals for account sales? Yeah right.


No i mean people calling you an abuser and him always defending your action

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Yahoo is not a cult member and I do advocate for his management. Or maybe he secretely is? Hmm.
Isn't he always defending you and making false accusations to discredit people who are attacking you?
You mean where he says we should maybe give out neutrals for account sales? Yeah right.
No i mean people calling you an abuser and him always defending your action
Maybe I am almost[1] always right, and maybe most non-shady members side with me because I am right. Maybe.

[1] I should have not used this word so that pathetic idiots like Quicksie can complain about it. Cheesy

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Yahoo is not a cult member and I do advocate for his management. Or maybe he secretely is? Hmm.
Isn't he always defending you and making false accusations to discredit people who are attacking you?
You mean where he says we should maybe give out neutrals for account sales? Yeah right.
No i mean people calling you an abuser and him always defending your action
Maybe I am almost[1] always right, and maybe most non-shady members side with me because I am right. Maybe.

[1] I should have not used this word so that pathetic idiots like Quicksie can complain about it. Cheesy

Its a small high ranked group.Don't call them non shady members as they support you only in their own favour.
You have been already kicked out as Mod and DT1 and are only back because of these.
Everyone knows it and acting like you don't know what i'm talking about i just want to remind you how upset you got
once i got activ on your campaigns just posting links to other threads with your involvement.



Maybe after all the years you can show me finally where i
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encourage scams, spam, and account farming.
At least thats what i got tagged from you.Would love to see where i encourage scams and spams and account farming.

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