Who is the cheater?

[sjbi]

It goes both the ways. There are many bounty hunters holding multiple accounts and in case of project owners, they are under various circumstances telling a lie in terms of exchange listing, bounty distribution and many more others. Project owners may be doing so just due to various reasons. So we can tell that if bounty holders are having multiple accounts, they are cheater and if fake projects are cheating investors  and bounty hunters, they are put in the same category. 

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[kangkilokang]

Fraud happens a lot and it can be done by anyone. So many Bounty projects now use KYC. And the purpose of KYC is to prevent fraud, but the use of KYC is also risky. Many Bounty participants can pass KYC, but still, don't get tokens.

so we have to be careful and don't be careless sometimes we are rash so fraudsters are very easy to do various ways to get it.

at least by using KYC it can be safer even if things that are not good can happen but can reduce the bad things that happen.

[wilberthh]

Both are cheaters. But I'm on the team side.

I'm sure the team knows that there are lots of cheaters and for sure they can't find it one by one because of the participant numbers.
Many bounty hunters cheated by using too many accounts which is seriously unfair for the legit participants. And the token team, despite knowing this, they can't do anything about it except for delaying the token distribution because they know if they distribute it too fast, the token will be dipping real hard and can harm the value.

I think it would be great if the token team implement the KYC system for distribution, although it won't help much, at least it'll make the dishonest participants tired.

[sujonali1819]

I want to say the team is not right position. Because why they support multiple account (fb,tw,linkdin etc)?  If they support multiple account for per person then main cheater is the team. Secondly the bounty hunters who use multiple account fo advertising. Thanks

[modmalaney]

If they have proof that someone is trying to commit fraud, and that is the deceiver. Many people try to commit fraud because this is a very large industry. And when it came to the ICO project and the project turned out to be a scam, of course, many people were cheated including investors.

[innocentone]

      Bounty hunters using multiple account,
      Dev and team delaying bounty rewards until it worth nothing.
     Then who is the cheater?

In my own opinion, the cheater is the dev and team that is delaying the bounty rewards. Even the bounty hunters have multiple accounts, they still have done their parts, they do what they needed to do. But in the part of the dev, they don't do what they really say.

[Georgiyk]

There is a 50/50 situation. It’s impossible to say 100% that the team is a fraud, but the fact that it violated conditions is bad and undermines its authority. Most importantly, the team, nevertheless, rewarded the bounty hunters, then it will not be called a fraud.
If we talk about multiple accounts, then in this I do not see anything terrible. Behind these records are real people who do their work.

[RohitMalhotra123]

According to me those person who make the multiple accounts in social media like facebook, twitter, linked in etc are Cheaters and secondly Bounty hunters are also cheaters.

[Ostonian]

And bounty hunters, and developers to some extent are scammers. Hunters are trying to earn as much as possible at the expense of several account, and developers can fool bounty hunters and not pay out the reward.

[Ranly123]

TEAM: The campaign will run from now to.........., the bounty rewards will be distributed 45 days after token sales
GENERAL RULES: One account per person
BOUNTY HUNTERS: joined
 5 telegram account per person
 3 bitcointalk account per person
 5 facebook account per person
 4 twitter account per person
 2 Reddit account per person
 2 LinkedIn account per person

Two days to the end of ICO...
TEAM: Due to some reasons,the ICO will be extended for two weeks
BOUNTY HUNTERS: Can we stop the campaign and remove the signature?
TEAM: No,the campaign will continue to the end of ICO.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We can't discuss exchange now,we will announce when is time.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: Wait for announcement here.

After ICO......
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We are preparing announcement, wait for it.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune.
TEAM: Our coin will be listed on....... on .....
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune

After listing...

BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards?
TEAM: We will give the announcement in days.

After coin dumped...
TEAM: The bounty rewards will be distributed in 3 weeks.


      Bounty hunters using multiple account,
      Dev and team delaying bounty rewards until it worth nothing.
     Then who is the cheater?

The cheaters the the ones who cheating. With regards to your post, both cheated each other. For bounty hunters cheating the team, even if they have followed the rules they would still be cheated by the team for having a delay of token distribution.

[ryap12]

The meaning google search gave is very clear.
It applies to both since the project team is not taking responsible of their word. To much promises from them but as long as they make the payment then it's okay for me since I can just wait until the token/coin rises again in price. I hate more those who makes duplicate accounts to participate in bounties as it is very unfair to those who have followed the rules.

[kakawin]

I dislike the unfair behavior of the development team. How can you trust a team that does not fulfill its promises? If the development team fulfills all that it promised, it means that the project is trustworthy.
I don’t like multiaccunts either, it’s not fair either.

[panganib999]

And bounty hunters, and developers to some extent are scammers. Hunters are trying to earn as much as possible at the expense of several account, and developers can fool bounty hunters and not pay out the reward.

This is what commonly the problem with a low raised-fund projects, even they've reached the soft capitalization there are times that some matters are not being included on calculations, so there are factors to be diminished like the pool of bounty which has the least percentage of the raised funds. This is why some project after ICO becomes nothing when introduced to the market because of poor working product due to low funds.

[soramon]

Using multiple account is a cheating. I think bounty hunter is cheater they only care about the reward but not follow rules from team. But, KYC can solve this problem. Team will use KYC to filter cheater. But sometimes some hunters cant pass KYC and did not get the reward.

[rysea2]

Maybe it looks a little funny, but that's the truth. I think maybe the two of them could be considered fraudsters and that would be very difficult to avoid because yes this is a virtual world that even we ourselves cannot know whether they are genuine or fake.

[Jannyh]

Well what you outlined is not far from the truth,  going by this analysis,  I would say it cuts across both parties,  though some hunters are the most cheaters but some Dev and team are also responsible for this kind of cheating, changing rules towards the end of the bounty. So I can't specifically point at who the actually cheater is because both parties are one way or the other guilty to this.  Only some Dev will keep to their rules and won't change it no matter what. Any way, we all should desist from cheating

[chits]

If a bounty hunter uses several accounts and correctly performs his work, then he is definitely not a crook, but more a workaholic. And the one who appropriates or steals other people's money or rewards is a true villain.

[siena23]

In my opinion the delay in giving tokens to bounty participants cannot be said to be a scam. I rarely receive tokens after the token is listed on the market. So in my opinion what you experience is just a coincidence because the project team is busy so there is a delay in giving the bounty participants tokens.

[babysweetTiger0401]

Those cheaters are the who has a multiple account in bounty campaign, such as in Signature, telegram, reddit, Facebook, and twitter.
Then aside from this, there are some project after their ico ended up if someone will ask them when distribution will be distribute
" They would say wait for further announcement " then after that they won't give any updates about in the project, until they will abandon
their channel and bounty thread section here in the forum.

[bitcoin31]

Bounty hunters is most population of the cheaters but not all. What ever you do like cheating it is not good or fair who have 1 only account here at bitcointalk or like in the social media they join more accounts with same person. There is a lot of cheater now and It will not help to the community it can cause only dumping.