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February 10, 2019, 07:19:26 AM
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mosprognoz admitted in a thread that he bought an account to participate in a bounty campaign.
He admitted it here- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5107674.0

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February 10, 2019, 09:02:36 AM
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Yes he said he bought an member account for $50 but he said that he did this to test how campaigns are allowing altaccounts to participate.

I am not sure he deserves red tag for that testing,but anyway here is an archieve of that thread.

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February 10, 2019, 09:21:25 AM
Last edit: February 10, 2019, 11:02:36 AM by Coolcryptovator
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Tagged, bought account and announce it publicly is really shady activity. Indirectly he have encourage account by although he wrote on post do not buy account. But people's will encourage to obviously if he isn't punished. We need discourage people's from buy sell account. Account buy and merit buy is equal in my opinion and both is shady activity. So I think he deserve tag.

Coolcryptovator, you should leave a reference also.
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I disagree: he did an interesting experiment to show how easy it is to join the ICO-madness.
You can leave counter feedback's. Or I will turn it into neutral if he provide bought account link. Who can give guaranty that he isn't using both account or he will not use in future for cheating bounty? I thought feedback will turn to neutral but by considering user demand my red tag will remain and let's wait for other DT comment. Archived

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February 10, 2019, 10:00:11 AM
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mosprognoz admitted in a thread that he bought an account to participate in a bounty campaign.
He admitted it here- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5107674.0
That post is worth reading, so I've merited it.

Tagged, bought account and announce it publicly is really shady activity.
I disagree: he did an interesting experiment to show how easy it is to join the ICO-madness.

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But people's will encourage to obviously if he isn't punished.
You're punishing someone for speaking out. Shady deals aren't announced like this. This user is nothing like the typical spammer who buys accounts.

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February 10, 2019, 10:28:05 AM
Last edit: February 10, 2019, 10:46:26 AM by jhenfelipe
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S/he has a good intention in doing the experiment to share how cheaters abuse bounty campaigns. I just think s/he should rephrase his sentence, he said:
Do not buy accounts from the sources that I mentioned, because it is illegal.
Does it mean buying from other sources is okay? Readers might think of it that way.

Maybe something like "Do not buy accounts. Froum rule no.18 account sales are discouraged."

Edit: Upon thingking more, I thought that he should mention the account he used and be tagged saying that it was bought and used for experiement purpose only. If the account remain unknown, he might continue using it for bounty campaigns. Other members have a point.
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February 10, 2019, 10:30:46 AM
Last edit: February 10, 2019, 10:56:08 AM by CryptopreneurBrainboss
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You know what's funny, another user might buy an account in future and start a thread saying it's an experiment and when he gets tagged he'll reference this thread saying but mosprognoz wasn't tagged.
When someone commits a crime be it an experiment, first time or for whatever reason he gets punished right? Therefore I believe mosprongnoz deserve to be punished.

Remember s_therapist self admitted he bought an account and still got punished. There are other ways he would had carried out that experiment like creating alt account.

Although that's a good thread he started but he has done sometime which is kinda frown at so deserve a punishment to prevent the scenario I described above from occuring,   Coolcryptovator leave a reference on your feedback.

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February 10, 2019, 10:35:47 AM
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I disagree: he did an interesting experiment to show how easy it is to join the ICO-madness.

So he is not shady even he bought an account and used it as alt for bounty programs because he made it public.


Myself i'm shady because i tried to buy an account for a friend so he would be able to post images on his service thread since there were no copper membership at that time.


I really don't understand why he shouldn't get a red tagg and i got bombarded with red taggs.

Would i call it an experiment wouldn't i also get any taggs ?


Same with suchmoon.Suchmoon bought an account for $600 and still her and the bought account have no taggs.Even worse she demanded from DT members to remove the taggs from the bought account which they did.


Smells like double standards to me.
Even i agree i personly wouldn't tagg him either but his alt account.

But i wouldn't also tagg other users which you guys did and thats a double standard i do not agree with
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February 10, 2019, 11:27:02 AM
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One thing I can't understand, he have offered ICO Creation Service on October 25, 2017 include signature and ANN service. Why he need experiment on February 08, 2019. Archived post history. If he was not experienced then how he had announced full ICO services?

After few days he is looking for Need a White Paper , but he have announced own service. So why he was looking for whitepaper  writer with token payment.

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February 10, 2019, 12:10:55 PM
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But people's will encourage to obviously if he isn't punished.
You're punishing someone for speaking out.

You usually support this kind of thing.

You like people who red tag those that speak out regarding wrongdoing.

Seems like double standards from you or just more broken logic.


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February 10, 2019, 03:16:07 PM
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Well, his intention was not to gain an advantage for himself to join bounties with his bought account, so I wouldn't tag him myself. I agree to the problem that other people will also declare their bought accounts as 'experiment' to remain untagged. A solution could be to tag only his bought account, but not the mosprognoz account. I don't think he had bad intentions.

For future reference all 'experiments' should be announced before the account is bought and the link to the bought account has to be provided after the 'experiment' is finished. Otherwise, both accounts will get tagged for account sales.

mosprognoz was well aware that account sales are discouraged and warned other members.

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Buying/selling accounts here is not allowed? That's something new for me, thanks
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Buying/selling accounts here is not allowed? That's something new for me, thanks

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

You must do more reading next time before posting anything, buying and selling is allowed but cheating a bounty/ signature campaign isn't. But usually account sellers and buyers here are automatically tagged as bought accounts are not to be really trusted here in the forum and most likely will be used in participating in bounty campaigns.
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February 10, 2019, 07:47:59 PM
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You're punishing someone for speaking out. Shady deals aren't announced like this. This user is nothing like the typical spammer who buys accounts.
Agree, which is why I'm not going to tag the guy for this--he's not a "real" account buyer, although a big part of me wishes he didn't demonstrate to everyone how easy it is to make money from this sort of scheme and didn't give account sellers his money.  That second part only contributes to the account-dealing economy and encourages account farmers to keep at it.

Coolcryptovator has the right idea here, and I'm glad he's against account sales, but in my opinion he probably jumped the gun on this one.  And no, I'm not going to leave a counter-positive.

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February 10, 2019, 08:01:19 PM
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but in my opinion he probably jumped the gun on this one.  And no, I'm not going to leave a counter-positive.
Not at all, my intention isn't to damage any account really. He had PM me, and I ask him to reply here with his statement. And he must be provide his bought account, then I will think tag should turn on neutral or not. But obviously I have to tag his bought account. I have noticed he had fight against scammers and I like it. So ask him to provide his bought account link. Otherwise may be I am not going to remove my tag.

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Myself i'm shady because i tried to buy an account for a friend so he would be able to post images on his service thread since there were no copper membership at that time.
Which service thread?
Same with suchmoon.Suchmoon bought an account for $600 and still her and the bought account have no taggs.Even worse she demanded from DT members to remove the taggs from the bought account which they did.
We are talking about Bruno's account here. We don't want to see that account in wrong hands, do we?
Smells like double standards to me.
Even i agree i personly wouldn't tagg him either but his alt account.
They could have bought account and be very quiet about it. There is no reason to point everyone that they bought account, it is not like anyone here is going to make clear connection between them and bought account. I don't think this is anything else but for research.
Remember s_therapist self admitted he bought an account and still got punished.
I wonder what is the reason to admit Roll Eyes
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February 10, 2019, 09:38:41 PM
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Since most of DT members consider this was a experiment so I have changed my feedback's to neutral from negative. On the other hand seems mosprognoz actively fighting with scammers which is appreciated to me. @marlboroza, you might remove your positive feedback's as well.

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February 10, 2019, 11:13:19 PM
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OP you wasted my time but at least i managed to find a good post worth some merit, you did the guy a favor.

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February 11, 2019, 05:32:11 AM
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I apology to everyone if I have wasted your time. People are more likely talking about negative feedback as well as his contribution to the forum, but I only intended pointing out this that he bought an account.
Coolcryptovator, did he link you the bought account?

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February 11, 2019, 07:02:38 AM
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Coolcryptovator, did he link you the bought account?
I guess not yet,because there is no feedback sent from Coolcryptovator after that mosprognoz's feedback.You can see his send feedback page here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1980983 to confirm it.

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February 11, 2019, 11:39:28 AM
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I apology to everyone if I have wasted your time. People are more likely talking about negative feedback as well as his contribution to the forum, but I only intended pointing out this that he bought an account.

you just had to read enough that you would realize that he was not intention to harm people, he was showing how bounty campaigns are being harmed because of participants who buy accounts



we have to be very careful when leaving negative feedback, always ask yourself:

- will the person have committed any infraction that offers danger to the members of the forum?


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