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May 07, 2019, 09:24:49 PM
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You do understand this doesn't mean everyone in that list is posting in the campaign don't you?

So, is there a list of the people officially accepted in the campaign?
I find it pretty hard to believe people are posting over +200 posts for weeks, not getting paid and still wearing that signature...

Edit: We do in fact warn against spam of any kind, we also guide people to post meaningful content but that's on telegram side and not here Kiss

You should have explained this better to them as it seems they have understood they should post meaningful content on telegram and not here  Tongue



I have updated the Edit information with a more understandable explanation.

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May 07, 2019, 10:19:06 PM
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Edit: We do in fact warned them against spam of any kind for Bitcointalk, we also guide people to post meaningful content for Bitcointalk on telegram side and not here Kiss

Doesn't look like your warning means anything. You can either manage the campaign properly or be rightfully ridiculed for hiring shitposters.

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May 07, 2019, 10:45:18 PM
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And one more thing:
If all of you wanna try to be the good guy and just report Stake's Signature Campaign, well you are doing it wrong, you should be reporting every campaign that is currently active at Bitcointalk since each one of them incentivate spam.

I'm personally experimenting by targeting one or two posters and seeing if they get banned after they get a significant number of posts deleted. They just happen to be in the Stake campaign at the moment. I've gotten Catmurs up to 87 posts deleted so far.

If your campaign is so 'reportable', maybe you should fix that.

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May 07, 2019, 10:50:56 PM
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Edit: We do in fact warned them against spam of any kind for Bitcointalk, we also guide people to post meaningful content for Bitcointalk on telegram side and not here Kiss

Doesn't look like your warning means anything. You can either manage the campaign properly or be rightfully ridiculed for hiring shitposters.

I also agree some do not qualify as quality members (from my opinion).
Still i am not the campaign manager, i'm just helping on informing the users on why they should keep the quality above everything else.
They have also been acknowledged that they will be banned if they keep posting spam and have their posts deleted by the MODs.

Btw some of the deleted posts are related with a topic deletion, let's not forget that.

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May 08, 2019, 06:40:04 AM
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I too had participated 5-6 weeks in stake (earned no more than 0.0025 in 5-6 weeks). I once asked Stephen to hire a professional campaign manager here after watching this thread and the other thread by yahoo62278. I guess he thought I was looking for being a campaign manager for them. However, he didn't change his decision. Probably he didn't notice or think it as spam but the truth is some of the campaign members were/are still spamming although Stephen said spam posts will not get paid. There's some good member too. I was asking will I be able to make 0.10/per week by posting as much as needed (I was kidding), some good mates suggest me not to do that because it will be spam certainly. I think they are not spammers.
I had also promoted stake, in some of the weeks, I had posted 5-10 posts only. Most of the weeks no more than 20 posts. That's how a campaign should be run, a poster should act, a campaign manager should encourage, I believe.

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May 08, 2019, 08:02:25 AM
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I'm personally experimenting by targeting one or two posters and seeing if they get banned after they get a significant number of posts deleted. They just happen to be in the Stake campaign at the moment. I've gotten Catmurs up to 87 posts deleted so far.
Judging by https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=postsdeleted, Mods are very forgiving even after hundreds of posts have been deleted.

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May 11, 2019, 08:42:12 PM
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May 13, 2019, 03:48:45 AM
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I'm personally experimenting by targeting one or two posters and seeing if they get banned after they get a significant number of posts deleted. They just happen to be in the Stake campaign at the moment. I've gotten Catmurs up to 87 posts deleted so far.
Judging by https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=postsdeleted, Mods are very forgiving even after hundreds of posts have been deleted.

It seems to have (mostly) worked. 43 good reports against markstivn98 on May 7 and May 9 combined and they haven't posted since May 9th. 17 good reports against StephenJH on May 7th and they've logged on, but haven't made any new posts. 89 good reports against Catmurs and they haven't made any new posts since May 7th. Either they all suddenly went from 20+ posts a day to 0 or they got a temp ban.

However, I do have 35/36 good reports against Ximoandali and they're still posting, but I'm still leaning to the former getting a temp ban.

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May 14, 2019, 12:47:26 PM
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I'm personally experimenting by targeting one or two posters and seeing if they get banned after they get a significant number of posts deleted. They just happen to be in the Stake campaign at the moment. I've gotten Catmurs up to 87 posts deleted so far.
Judging by https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=postsdeleted, Mods are very forgiving even after hundreds of posts have been deleted.

It seems to have (mostly) worked. 43 good reports against markstivn98 on May 7 and May 9 combined and they haven't posted since May 9th. 17 good reports against StephenJH on May 7th and they've logged on, but haven't made any new posts. 89 good reports against Catmurs and they haven't made any new posts since May 7th. Either they all suddenly went from 20+ posts a day to 0 or they got a temp ban.

However, I do have 35/36 good reports against Ximoandali and they're still posting, but I'm still leaning to the former getting a temp ban.

How much deleted post is necessary to have to be banned? Are there any clear rules about that?
Also whether there is a rule for threads with lots of bump spam posts. There were threads where I report more than 90% of posts in 10 pages, and all of them are deleted but thread still exists.

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May 14, 2019, 04:36:02 PM
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However, I do have 35/36 good reports against Ximoandali and they're still posting, but I'm still leaning to the former getting a temp ban.
Likely he/she will not get ban for spam. I have previous experience, even reported that kind of amount report and they were mark good but user didn't got ban. So we can't expect ban for spam post.

How much deleted post is necessary to have to be banned? Are there any clear rules about that?
As far as I know, there no any rules about that. Its depend on user and reported post. Its fully depend on moderators and admin they will ban or not for reported spam post. But in addition, you could add note on report page why are you thinking that users should be banned.

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May 18, 2019, 05:27:04 PM
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17 good reports against StephenJH on May 7th and they've logged on, but haven't made any new posts.

StephenJH came back on May 15th, spammed another 12 posts (all good reports) and now this shows on their profile:
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@StephenJH - see you in two weeks  Tongue

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@StephenJH - see you in two weeks  Tongue
That means moderators are banning for spam post also I mean for good report. Idea is not bad to prevent spammers Wink

However, I think reporter's hard work will be worthy now.

I mean for good report.

They always have.
No, it wasn't. I have reported lot of post from single user previously but they were not banned.

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May 19, 2019, 11:26:14 AM
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I mean for good report.

They always have.

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When i was doing signature campaigns for primedice back in 2014 we basically invented signature campaigns on this forum.

Then it was starting to degrade quality of this forum and we decided to stop it.

Now we are back again with stake campaign and we will make it strongest campaign on this forum.

Ironic  Roll Eyes

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May 21, 2019, 10:44:17 AM
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When i was doing signature campaigns for primedice back in 2014 we basically invented signature campaigns on this forum.

Then it was starting to degrade quality of this forum and we decided to stop it.

Now we are back again with stake campaign and we will make it strongest campaign on this forum.

Ironic  Roll Eyes

Very. I'd argue that the Stake campaign is the worst on the forum now (wouldn't have been if Yobit was still around).

A glorious Stake-started thread here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190521081654/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134267.0

I'd bet there's some alts in that thread too.

I actually think the Stake spam is worse now than it was back in the PrimeDice day. The worst of the PD spammers were quickly temp banned and most got the message once they did but there's far too many for staff to handle and it's not something we should have to deal with in the first place. There's far more people who have come to this board just for sig campaigns compared to back in the old days where it was mostly just existing users joining them, but I guess PrimeDice was the catalyst in popularising campaigns and once word got out then people flocked to the forum to abuse them and we ended up in the situation we have today where people have farmed accounts on an industrial scale to use just to earn via posting. Because Stake are seemingly accepting anyone and everyone those farmers are going to take advantage of it, especially because there's a lack of other campaigns for them to easily get on these days. All they need to do is do a bit of quality control and there wouldn't be any issues.

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Could I argue that this spam is scamming my brain and thus properly tag the people behind it? Undecided That would be within the new guidelines.

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May 21, 2019, 03:54:42 PM
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Could I argue that this spam is scamming my brain and thus properly tag the people behind it? Undecided That would be within the new guidelines.

That just proves that this forum is going down, so you want to tag the people running this signature, or the ones promoting the signature because these are two different things. Of course you will tag this way only signatures approved by the communists being on DT will be allowed.

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May 22, 2019, 07:44:11 AM
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I'd argue that the Stake campaign is the worst on the forum now (wouldn't have been if Yobit was still around).

It's not even an arguement anymore - it is definately the worst. My ignore cell is overflowing with stake.....lol

Seriously though, can something be done apart from constantly hammering the ignore button? For the casual reader who isn't logged in, this forum is just covered in shitposts - it's terrible.

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May 22, 2019, 11:38:14 PM
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That just proves that this forum is going down, so you want to tag the people running this signature, or the ones promoting the signature because these are two different things. Of course you will tag this way only signatures approved by the communists being on DT will be allowed.
Isn't communist about workers controlling the means of production?
I don't think that signature campaigns that incentivize spam should be allowed to proliferate on the forum. Paying for someone to post up to 1000+ times is certainly not something that benefits the forum... is it?

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