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March 06, 2019, 01:22:52 PM
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being addicted does not mean that you will permanently atatched to something  . you will not be brain dead forever because addicted people do also recover if they want and if they are really willing to change thier life for a better  .
I had a similar view at first, but from my personal experience, once you (really) addicted to something, your brain will never be the same. Just like this quote:

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Like asthma or diabetes, Fong said, there’s no permanent cure for compulsive gambling. “It is a chronic, long-term illness,” he said. “But it can be controlled very, very well so that you are not worrying about it every day.”
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Nevertheless, just like any other games, gambling is fine as long as you do it responsibly.

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March 06, 2019, 03:04:38 PM
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I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

Indeed, there are people who, after knowing gambling and becomes addict, changed their way of life. They place gambling above anything else and even forget other important things that should be maintained, such as daily job. Yes, maybe a case like that happens a lot but not everyone will fall into that situation. There are still many gamblers who able to maintain their daily lives and not be affected by the adverse effects of gambling they do.

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March 06, 2019, 03:29:05 PM
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Actually OP that's really a negative about gambling like many children will affect by this like it so hard to control yourself if you became an addict still as a user with a positive thinker i recommend or suggest that risk the affordable always for you in gambling then this brings so much enjoyment,knowledge while we can earn when we try this so even there's no assurance we can use this in many good ways

It depends upon who is playing gambling and how strong minded he is. If a mature person is playing gambling he will not be addicted to gambling very easily as he has a mature mind to know what is good or bad. If a children is involved in gambling then they wont even know when they are addicted to gambling and they will not be able to manage their time and money well .
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March 06, 2019, 03:36:09 PM
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The title is a bit too simplistic and requires nuance.

If somebody gambles with extra money they have to spare, and isn't harming their own financial health or their family's, they can do whatever they damn well please. If somebody makes a hundred grand a year and wastes a hundred dollars a day on a dice site with crap odds, while still taking care of their finances, who cares? They probably don't care if anonymous people call them a "degenerate."

Its a topic really only worthy of judgment if they do things like gamble their rent money. Otherwise its a far healthier vice than alcohol, hard drugs, or cigarettes.

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March 06, 2019, 03:51:05 PM
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Gambling is not suitable for all of us because it is a different kind of making money because you lots of people who are entering into this field will not need money they are come to this field will come for the entertainment purpose only so it can be a good thing also but if you are thinking you need to be make money in quicktime to not be possible at any time.

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March 06, 2019, 04:17:43 PM
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Everyone has different perspective toward an issues, depending on who you talk to. Gambling indeed will give a negative impact on everyone, especially in young children. They won't think of many things to start gambling and they won't see any conditions what they are feeling to gamble, they will do whatever they want and this is a cos gambling will give a negative impact on them.

However, you will not be easy to change their mindset towards gambling and it looks like you live in a place where gambling is a normal thing to do or even maybe your government gives freedom to gambling places to allow your children to gamble.

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March 06, 2019, 04:27:59 PM
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I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

 If you truly believe what you have posted while making money wearing the tags of a gambling site,  you're a hypocrite and a degenerate one at that.


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March 06, 2019, 04:40:27 PM
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When you know what you can afford to spend on gambling and still spending more means it is not the fault of gambling it comes from ourself and we are hiding under the name of gambling which makes it as to look like a negative thing to do.









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March 06, 2019, 05:33:58 PM
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I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

 If you truly believe what you have posted while making money wearing the tags of a gambling site,  you're a hypocrite and a degenerate one at that.
Yes, I agree. What is the purpose of wearing a gambling site signature if you oppose the views of gambling?
Well everyone of us has a different perspective way on gambling, I personally like to gamble when I arrived at home after whole day work it just likes to relieve my stress. We know that we can't defeat the banker of the site, but if your purpose is to entertain so why not.

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March 06, 2019, 05:39:32 PM
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Who are you to stop them from gambling? You can't judge someone and call them "degenerates" just because they gamble. They can afford to lose the money, then let them gamble and enjoy. It's a form of entertainment for them. If you think they are addicted and needs help (because they are suffering from financial aspects), then just help them give up their addiction and guide them towards a stable life instead of calling them degenerates.

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March 06, 2019, 06:02:56 PM
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Gambling is becoming more commonplace because of smart phones and access to video games.  All the new video games have prizes, spins, lootboxes, where you can win virtual items for real money.  This triggers your brain's reward system and you continually want more and more.
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March 06, 2019, 06:11:51 PM
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A lots of people getting out from this field when they are after addict into it so gambling will be one of the good way of money making but people are using it for a huge money making this will be the main problem for addiction for everyone to get so much addicted into it.

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March 06, 2019, 10:44:26 PM
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Who are you to stop them from gambling? You can't judge someone and call them "degenerates" just because they gamble. They can afford to lose the money, then let them gamble and enjoy. It's a form of entertainment for them. If you think they are addicted and needs help (because they are suffering from financial aspects), then just help them give up their addiction and guide them towards a stable life instead of calling them degenerates.

Yeah and not all who play gambling are addicts or addicted  .  me and wife play gambling , i play online gambling using crypto and my wife play offline gambling near on our place but we are not addicted because we only allocate few hours to play  and we dont play everyday  . the good part is we are not playing for profit .  we are only playing to enjoy our selves .  not all gamblers are degenerate's  , few of them maybe  .
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March 06, 2019, 11:10:46 PM
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I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
Stick with that view because gambling is really not good especially if you can’t afford it. A lots of disadvantages and negative effects compare to positive, some may win but most gamblers lose big money in gambling. Don’t be like your friend, i saw you different don’t gamble at all.
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March 07, 2019, 03:42:11 AM
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I agree with your opinion about a young age should be stopped from gambling, but the problem is they can easily access every website with internet connection which available everywhere. They can access gambling website in the cafe or the malls.

I think the governments which are prohibit gambling in their country as trying hard to block every gambling site so people especially young age cannot access that site but you know, the internet connection is not hard to find in today. Perhaps, it is our jobs to take care of the young age around us or even our kids to stay away from gambling. I am sure if we can explain to them about how dangerous gambling games for their life, they will understand and they will obey us.

Besides that, we need to make a friendly approaching to young age, so they know that playing gambling is not good in their ages and even it will risk their life too in the future. And soon, after the young age realizes the risk of gambling game, they will become aware that they don't have to use gambling as one way to having fun and there is any other activity that they can use in their free time.

This is only more the reason for more regulations to attempt to stop this sort of behavior, and I think the companies that are attempting to skirt these rules should be held liable for the problems that they're going to cause down the line because they won't ensure that their site (to the best of their knowledge) isn't being used by those under 18. Companies know exactly what they're doing and they're reaping the rewards of letting underage people gamble, though they should soon face the legal consequences.

Gambling is becoming more commonplace because of smart phones and access to video games.  All the new video games have prizes, spins, lootboxes, where you can win virtual items for real money.  This triggers your brain's reward system and you continually want more and more.

Without a doubt something that should be made more transparent. I think gaming companies have abused this and parents have little to no clue about this. It's a sad behavior which exploits the youngest and most vulnerable for some profits.





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March 07, 2019, 03:48:46 AM
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Without a doubt something that should be made more transparent. I think gaming companies have abused this and parents have little to no clue about this. It's a sad behavior which exploits the youngest and most vulnerable for some profits.


As homer pointed out, you're wearing a gambling sig so you are directly supporting this "sad behavior." Is the irony totally lost on you?

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March 07, 2019, 03:55:44 AM
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Without a doubt something that should be made more transparent. I think gaming companies have abused this and parents have little to no clue about this. It's a sad behavior which exploits the youngest and most vulnerable for some profits.


As homer pointed out, you're wearing a gambling sig so you are directly supporting this "sad behavior." Is the irony totally lost on you?

Just because I wear the signature of a company which promotes gambling doesn't mean I'm not able to speak out about what I think new regulatory policy should be related to gambling. I don't see the 'gotcha' moment by you two in the least.

I may have strong beliefs on the topic yes, but my one signature is one that would be replaced if I was to leave. So what's the point in me giving up my reward? There's no point in that.

As a side note, in the part that you quoted you failed to notice that I was speaking about loot boxes and gaming companies. Though I do know what you were referencing though, even if you failed to quote the correct area.







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March 07, 2019, 04:26:49 AM
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Without a doubt something that should be made more transparent. I think gaming companies have abused this and parents have little to no clue about this. It's a sad behavior which exploits the youngest and most vulnerable for some profits.


As homer pointed out, you're wearing a gambling sig so you are directly supporting this "sad behavior." Is the irony totally lost on you?

Just because I wear the signature of a company which promotes gambling doesn't mean I'm not able to speak out about what I think new regulatory policy should be related to gambling. I don't see the 'gotcha' moment by you two in the least.

I may have strong beliefs on the topic yes, but my one signature is one that would be replaced if I was to leave. So what's the point in me giving up my reward? There's no point in that.

As a side note, in the part that you quoted you failed to notice that I was speaking about loot boxes and gaming companies. Though I do know what you were referencing though, even if you failed to quote the correct area.





  I hardly consider this a "gotcha" moment since nobody attempted to trick you into anything.  You've discredited yourself by your own lack of integrity having failed to take a principled stance against a behaviour on which you publicly claim to have a negative view.  An addiction is a chronic disorder - a complex disease.  People with addiction need treatment rather than your moral judgment of their character.

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March 07, 2019, 04:51:00 AM
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I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
Only one that needs to be changed, we must change our perspective on the gambling game !!! Never make gambling a job, because if someone already considers gambling as a job they will get pressure. Make gambling a pleasure so we will get comfort !!!
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March 07, 2019, 05:35:32 AM
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This is only more the reason for more regulations to attempt to stop this sort of behavior, and I think the companies that are attempting to skirt these rules should be held liable for the problems that they're going to cause down the line because they won't ensure that their site (to the best of their knowledge) isn't being used by those under 18. Companies know exactly what they're doing and they're reaping the rewards of letting underage people gamble, though they should soon face the legal consequences.

This argument also applies to porn sites.
All online casinos can do is to put a disclaimer/warning sign since they cannot hire a bouncer to keep out underage people to enter.

What is your idea to solve this problem? KYC?

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