People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.

[rodel caling]

Gambling is entertainment to makes happy while playing because of exciting and yes sad to say have an side effect if didn't know to control itself big possible to go into addiction especially like the op said isn't normally f om the location paople get involve into gambling addiction.

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[FlightyPouch]

I am not siding with this "degenerate" but will you be able to stop them if they are addicted to it? IWe don't need to call that kind of people degenerates that fast, nstead we should be asking them since we all know how scary gambling addiction is, they might have a problem about that. You do have some point but all I am saying is that they are not degenerates.

[kaya11]

You should blame the government for agreeing with casinos and other gambling sites to run their business on the country. In the first [lace they should be able to predicts what's gonna happen if gambling is allowed in their country. Some kids may have some family problems and such, resulting to rebellion and do other things around including gambling, worst are heinous acts.

[BlueStackz]

I agree with this, we shouldn't call names here. There are two types of gamblers: those who gamble for entertainment purposes(the vast majority, over 95%) and addicted gamblers that should be rather called sick persons than degenerates. Although the former ones do expect winning some money from their gambling activity, they never risk amounts big enough for ruining their lives, and thus if they lose it is not that painful for them, and they don't chase their losses. In short, most gamblers are not sick, and those who are still shouldn't be called degenerates.

Where do you get those numbers from? I think the percentage of problem gamblers is actually much higher than 5%
Most casinos are actually run in a way that turns people into addicts and they definitely make most of their profits from people who are addicted.

Mind you, this isn't a call to make gambling illegal or anything, I'm just saying that I think the percentage is much higher than 5%

So how did you also get to know that the number of people who suffer addiction is higher than 5% ? I know over 20 friends that are into gambling and not even one of them is an addicted gambler, which means the number of responsible gamblers is higher than the compulsive gamblers.

The few people who are suffering addiction in gambling are either those who have had a traumatic childhood experience or some greedy bettors who would want to do everything possible to make money and before you know it, they find it difficult to control themselves in the game, so  I advise we stop blaming the gambling sites. The fault is actually from players.

[mornabo]

Though to me the subject is inconsequential because am a full time gambler years back and will never change my route. Not all the time i do gamble for money, but many atimes, i do it for fun, also, to chase out loneliness when am alone. Gamblers are better than drug addicts, and am proud to be a Gambler.

Yes, it's definitely a lot better to be a gambler instead of a durg addict but I don't think you should be proud that you are a gambler as long as you lose more money than you win by doing that. You probably think you do it for fun but think about it again since there are dozens of others ways you could spend that money and have better fun.

I agree, we can be fun in some other ways and a better ways than gambling although this is already much better than drug addicts there is still some other way that is also much more fun. Maybe gambling is also one of his way to to forget some of his problems.

Gambling can make us entertained if we also know how to play with it.But if we make it as a priority,then surely it will cause serious damages in our life.We can lose such a huge amount and worst is that it may totally ruin our life and even the family we have.So gamble only occasionally enough to give us only fun.

The end result is how someone has a purpose for and how they control themselves when play gambling. actually the function of gambling is to have fun, thats was right. but everyone has different goals and that goal sometimes makes them lose control and become addicts, because they have goals to be achieved and that makes them have to do anything to achieve that, like keep playing even if they lose

[sana54210]

i think there is a mystery behind people getting addicted in gambling. Doesnt look natural to me. What would make a grown ass man get addicted to gambling

The mystery behind addiction is Time. Nothing more than that. Never spend too much time uncontrollably in the game. Gambling is highly addictive and not everyone is strong enough to control themselves in playing so it is advisable to reduce the time spent in playing as this has a way of sending signal to the brain.

Gambling addiction is not a respecter of age. There are so many grown men out there suffering from addiction, in short I have one presently and he has been sent to rehab, He’s my cousin. He has sold his house cars and almost about draining his before they started to rescue him. Anyone without self-control can fall victim of addiction irrespective of the age.

[redsun114]

we shouldn't call names here. There are two types of gamblers: those who gamble for entertainment purposes(the vast majority, over 95%) and addicted gamblers that should be rather called sick persons than degenerates. Although the former ones do expect winning some money from their gambling activity, they never risk amounts big enough for ruining their lives, and thus if they lose it is not that painful for them, and they don't chase their losses. In short, most gamblers are not sick, and those who are still shouldn't be called degenerates.

I think the whole arguments is coming based on the headline addressing all who gamble as degenerates and many didn’t read thoroughly through the post to see where he mentioned those who do it to the extreme without control and at the same time there would be people as such who are also on the forum and would find that really insulting.

There would have been better ways to pass the message without calling names and like you have said and I agree with you, even those who play to the extreme shouldn’t be referred to as degeneratesor even sick as addressed by you, maybe we should just leave them ass addicted or aggressive gamblers

In economics, when we talk about rationality, we assume the individual to know all the things needed to make profit in the market. In case of gambling, if you are not able to make profit in the market, there is no point of feeling proud over the name tag. Just be your self because a name tag can do no good to you but being a purposeful gambler can really make you money.

[michellee]

You should blame the government for agreeing with casinos and other gambling sites to run their business on the country. In the first [lace they should be able to predicts what's gonna happen if gambling is allowed in their country. Some kids may have some family problems and such, resulting to rebellion and do other things around including gambling, worst are heinous acts.

I don't think that the government will prohibited gambling in his country because the government can get more money from the business especially if many rich people want to play the game. And soon, it will be too late to stop gambling from that country because people will play gambling and they will get more losses from gambling itself.

[JohnBitCo]

Though to me the subject is inconsequential because am a full time gambler years back and will never change my route. Not all the time i do gamble for money, but many atimes, i do it for fun, also, to chase out loneliness when am alone. Gamblers are better than drug addicts, and am proud to be a Gambler.

Yes, it's definitely a lot better to be a gambler instead of a durg addict but I don't think you should be proud that you are a gambler as long as you lose more money than you win by doing that. You probably think you do it for fun but think about it again since there are dozens of others ways you could spend that money and have better fun.

I agree, we can be fun in some other ways and a better ways than gambling although this is already much better than drug addicts there is still some other way that is also much more fun. Maybe gambling is also one of his way to to forget some of his problems.

Gambling can make us entertained if we also know how to play with it.But if we make it as a priority,then surely it will cause serious damages in our life.We can lose such a huge amount and worst is that it may totally ruin our life and even the family we have.So gamble only occasionally enough to give us only fun.

You never know how gambling can change your world. You can become millionaire by wining big bets and games. You can even lose all your wealth by losing all in gambling. You might come in gambling with the mind to have fun only and you never know that when you become addicted to it and in the process lose all your money.

[bonker]

Gambling always gives the satisfaction when you do it right if you are lost also the gambling entertainment will give you to the best mindset so the decision is always important before the gambling and doing it properly.

[d1ceplayer]

Though to me the subject is inconsequential because am a full time gambler years back and will never change my route. Not all the time i do gamble for money, but many atimes, i do it for fun, also, to chase out loneliness when am alone. Gamblers are better than drug addicts, and am proud to be a Gambler.

Yes, it's definitely a lot better to be a gambler instead of a durg addict but I don't think you should be proud that you are a gambler as long as you lose more money than you win by doing that. You probably think you do it for fun but think about it again since there are dozens of others ways you could spend that money and have better fun.

I agree, we can be fun in some other ways and a better ways than gambling although this is already much better than drug addicts there is still some other way that is also much more fun. Maybe gambling is also one of his way to to forget some of his problems.

Gambling can make us entertained if we also know how to play with it.But if we make it as a priority,then surely it will cause serious damages in our life.We can lose such a huge amount and worst is that it may totally ruin our life and even the family we have.So gamble only occasionally enough to give us only fun.

You never know how gambling can change your world. You can become millionaire by wining big bets and games. You can even lose all your wealth by losing all in gambling. You might come in gambling with the mind to have fun only and you never know that when you become addicted to it and in the process lose all your money.

This is the reason the wise guys stay away from participating gambling right? I prefer not to be part of gambling purely because of this very reason. It is just pathetic to loose when you are actually thinking about winning. In case you gambling at a casino, the house edge is always high. It is good to watch and get inspired from movies like 21 and Casino Royal but you need to at least trade and not gamble to be safe financially.

[Kanda Yu]

I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

I don't know if I could able to change your mind but I'll try my best. Gambling may be bad for some reason and also may not bad, it will only bad depend on how will you use it like if you use it to earn profit but if you will you use it for entertainment I think there's nothing wrong with that. Personally, I used to play gambling but I ain't get addicted so far probably because I could able to resist the temptation. The bitcoin casino where I used to play has a lot of amazing features and bonuses, it also has a lot of various games and I think this is perfect to entertain yourself.

[NavI_027]

I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board

Based on my impression you are not so hostile, you are very brave instead. Imagine, you have the guts to post this knowing the tendencies of getting bashed lol.

It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

Bad actors? What do you exactly mean by that? Gambling is bad (based on Bible and humanitarian laws) thus people who do such thing is bad as well, so are you pertaining to all of us?

Another thing, I think any casinos and gambling sites nor its owners are not the main responsible for children to get addicted in gambling because they're just doing their business. I'm pretty sure as well that they only intend to advertise their services only to adults so why should we blame them? If a particular child got exposed and the worst is getting addicted to gambling then it's their parents main fault because they fail to enact full guidance to their child. It's their obligation in the first place.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

Please don't be, try appreciating its benfit and advantages it could bring. Well, I know that we can't deny the harmful effects of it but every thing got its own silver lining right ?

[BeGoods]

I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

It's natural that many people think badly about the influence of gambling. but in my opinion banning young people and make them stop to play gambling will be much more difficult, and that is not the way out. I think we can start socializing that gambling is not a place to generate wealth, because people who become addicts initially have that thought, make young people believe that gambling is just for fun. it's a better solution

[rijaljun]

I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

It's natural that many people think badly about the influence of gambling. but in my opinion banning young people and make them stop to play gambling will be much more difficult, and that is not the way out. I think we can start socializing that gambling is not a place to generate wealth, because people who become addicts initially have that thought, make young people believe that gambling is just for fun. it's a better solution

Yepp, most of young people can't control emotion yet and gambling could easily take control of them. I sometimes believe that gambling is not good for underage cause when they lose, they will likely to use their emotion, instead of their mind and that's really bad for their future. I agree with your opinion that we need to teach young people that gambling is not a right way to make people rich, even we can be rich from gambling but it's extremely risky.

[Polar91]

You should blame the government for agreeing with casinos and other gambling sites to run their business on the country. In the first [lace they should be able to predicts what's gonna happen if gambling is allowed in their country. Some kids may have some family problems and such, resulting to rebellion and do other things around including gambling, worst are heinous acts.

I don't believe it's government's fault. In fact, government are very strict regulating gambling. In my opnion, it's more one parent's fault; they know what are the responsibilities in every of their actions. Kids won't be influenced by wrong deeds if their parents become a good model for them.

[omonuyak]

Our mind contained alot of things and addicted to gambling is one of those things. We should not be carry away by how many people has lose in gambling and think that it is for the degenerated mind but have in mind that they are people making it also in gambling.  The way we used our mind is what enabling us to get something from it.

[shield132]

I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

Not everyone, depends on gambler. Since we talk so loudly, the only persons I can call degenerate are those who are very poor and instead of trying to get job, spend all of their money (usually given by mother or father) in casino with hope that they are smart and some day they'll beat casino and want to make gambling their "job" because they are so lazy.
Otherwise what's wrong if I have good salary, feed family and etc but gamble with some bucks because I enjoy playing dice or poker or etc? Am I still stupid? Can deposit 1$ daily and never exceed that amount, just get 1 hour play of poker after stressful day.

[uneng]

The problem is just the addiction. Gambling can be a friendly activity like any other you do on weekends, holidays and vacations. What isn't normal, as you said, is someone who is every day behind a computer or gambling machine spending money that he or she can't afford to lose.
However you can't stop this issue imposing heavy regulations on gambling activity, what would be harmful for the industry and for the economy of a city or country. Think what would be Las Vegas for an example, without gambling or with heavy regulations over it.

[tortic25]

Gambling may be bad but it's also another way to enjoy life and you must have limitation when gambling. Start with the money you afford to lose so that you still have money. Having strategy can also help you think gambling is not all about bringing a negative impact on your life. Stay Posirive, avoid getting involved too much.

As I said originally, I'm not talking about the holiday betters or the people that do it just because the people in the office are doing it just to fit in. I'm talking about the people who are nonstop about the fact that they have a 'sure thing' or that this is the game that's going to turn them around. Stuff like that.

There's no real way for this sort of gambler to be able to keep it without the emotions, as they thrive off of the winnings and the losses and never are able to quench the thirst of gambling. It's a never ending battle that you're never going to be able to fully leave unless you go COLD TURKEY.

This normalization of certain types of betting: Be it DraftKings or one of those weekly sports betting, or just some random bets you'd make at school with some friends are going to be the downfall of this newest generation.

i think every gambler is different, i'm not a gambler who does social gambling/ or just occasionally, i do it alot.

but i gamble what i can afford, for months at a time and, when i don't have enough to throw away i can quit for months at a time. and i know almost every gambler has said they can stop at any time, but i have done it dozens of times.
I have won thousands and didn't feel the need to keep going so i cashed out.
i have won 500$+ dozens of times and felt like it wasn't enough to cashout, and lost it. a majority of what i play is 5-10$ deposits so these would be 30x-50x wins and i'm not satisfied. i'm not rich or making great money, but when i cashout i want to get something nice. but if i didn't go for those big cashouts i'd probably still average around the same winnings.

my definition of a degen is someone who can't stop, and someone willing to scam or steal just to play.  i think it's fine to gamble nonstop if you're winning or losing and not effecting you financially, if you feel you need it instead of want it it's also a problem.

my last few big wins was years ago, and i still consider being in the green
"nonstop about the fact that they have a 'sure thing' or that this is the game that's going to turn them around. Stuff like that."
i think only a gambler can point this out, you will probably think i'm as crazy as the ones youre talking about but,
there are alot of gamblers who make a living gambling, that other gamblers see as idols. its no different from an artist wanting a 1 in a million contract and refusing to giveup on their dreams because it's not realistic.
it's impossible to make a living playing dice,roulette etc, unless you find and exploit which many has done in the past but that's not my point. games where you can gain an edge and perfect it, i think that's what a majority of players mean when they want to make a living playing it.


also
A perfect example would be from my past experience.
I had an unrealistic goal to win every poker tournament i played.
even though freeroll players are worse this was 12 different tournaments that day, with 1000-1400 players in each. i came in first out of 10 of those and in the top 3 all 12 games
building those stacks, avoiding badbeats, plus multitabling some of those, thinking about how it impossible it seems and achieving it the one day i make it my goal.

I don't intend to make a living gambling but i think anyone that envisions the impossible has a better shot then those that limit their selves.

I'm everything you described as a degen, and i'm perfectly happy with the way i gamble, it doesn't fit my definition of a degen but like i said there's alot of different types of gamblers and your definition covers almost all of them, overall i think you are judging from lack of information and experience. and the only way to change your mind is if you change your definition of what a degen is.

I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

just because your friends gamble doesn't mean they're addicted.
I also started gambling at 13 lol, if the person is prone to addiction i don't see any logic with your argument "wait till they see the horrible outcomes" as an adult" as a child their losses would be limited and would be more likely to get help at an early age.


"we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life."


i don't know what country you're in, but most countries thats known for gambling, united states,mascow,macau,sidney,dubai offer some level of freedom to do the things you genuinely enjoy.  ""but yeah, no one actually enjoys it we forced it into our culture so the minority which are addicted gamblers can suffer. while the rest of the gamblers keeping these big casinos in business are doing it just to laugh at the addicts"""

your'e really misinformed