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May 14, 2019, 01:00:17 PM
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It's their money and they can do whatever they want on it as long as they do not harm anybody, it's just your perception, there are people who gamble just to entertain themselves and there are who gamble for profit, they satisfy their needs, and wants it's not up to us to judge them and impose our judgement on people, gambling is not a crime.

Yes, you are right. Let them decide whatever they want to do with their money. Even if they spend all of their money, we cannot judge and easy to say they are wrong because we don't know what they think about gambling. But we can always suggest them not to use all of their money in gambling games because we will lose the money no matter how much we use that money. I am sure that if they are aware of that, they will think twice to use all of the money because they will think to use the money for other things.

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May 14, 2019, 07:59:48 PM
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I don't see them any worse than women on the cock carousel - at least these people are stimulating the economy. Cheesy

You can say that excessive gambling is like the obesity epidemic in the US, too much of something that would have been good, or at least harmless in moderation.
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May 15, 2019, 04:17:26 PM
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Yeah as better this is the way I started to play betting. I have started to bet when there is a high chance of winning unfortunately I lose. This is where the taking another opportunity to bet and win the lose. Yes, I could win but most of the time I lose.

Now, I learn my lesson and that is to keep calm and cool when betting. Never bet when one is not calm for it will lead to a baf decision making.
That only way one can be calm in betting is to avoid anxiety and I noticed that anxiety is always common with people who want to make fast and quick money from gambling. Why the anxiety actually?  I feel the essence for varieties of games in gambling is to get fun. Gambling is not a source of income and even when any player desires to play for money, he should at least play moderately.

It’s so nice when we play the game for fun but at the same time we have to be disciplined not to get addicted because such game that can be so interesting if not controlled can result to addiction. The best thing is just to play the game moderately.
I play for money actually and I do not play with anxiety but rather I am calculative in playing. In my opinion I feel anxiety is even more common with those of you that gamble for fun, so many players who I see gambling for fun get so excited with the game that they usually run out of control and start spending excessively on the game because they want to fulfill their desire to be happy.

For me discipline and self-control is really very important even when we gamble either for fun or for money. There are people who gamble for money that get addicted, same as those who gamble for fun. The only people that  can ever be exempted from gambling addiction are those with self control and can play in moderation.

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May 15, 2019, 05:16:33 PM
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 #144

It's their money and they can do whatever they want on it as long as they do not harm anybody, it's just your perception, there are people who gamble just to entertain themselves and there are who gamble for profit, they satisfy their needs, and wants it's not up to us to judge them and impose our judgement on people, gambling is not a crime.
Gambling is not a crime and everyone has the right to enjoy the fun part from gambling but they don't have to stuck with gambling addiction so we have to guide the into right way.
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May 15, 2019, 05:27:01 PM
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That might varies, based on your personal experience but categorically, people that gamble are not degenerated in any form, if such a gambler would put fort the power of self discipline. Have been gambling, and had never be degenerated since my start till date, becasue i gamble with sense, and responsibly, for fun, and for entertainment.   

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May 15, 2019, 11:41:25 PM
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That might varies, based on your personal experience but categorically, people that gamble are not degenerated in any form, if such a gambler would put fort the power of self discipline. Have been gambling, and had never be degenerated since my start till date, becasue i gamble with sense, and responsibly, for fun, and for entertainment.   
Self-discipline is still the best attitude towards gambling. Because if we only play without setting limits for ourselves, surely we will end up being addicted and with addiction follows lot of crimes and big losses in the end. We should only gamble for fun and not to gamble senseless and seriously.
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May 16, 2019, 01:07:02 AM
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That might varies, based on your personal experience but categorically, people that gamble are not degenerated in any form, if such a gambler would put fort the power of self discipline. Have been gambling, and had never be degenerated since my start till date, becasue i gamble with sense, and responsibly, for fun, and for entertainment.   
Self-discipline is still the best attitude towards gambling. Because if we only play without setting limits for ourselves, surely we will end up being addicted and with addiction follows lot of crimes and big losses in the end. We should only gamble for fun and not to gamble senseless and seriously.

Though it is easier said than done, but self-discipline is really your real enemy here.
If all gamblers are gambling just for fun, I doubt those casinos will earn huge amount of money.
Those who become addicted have other purpose other than to entertain themselves, money is of course the obvious major reason.
Those who become addicted are the ones heading to a degenerate life. If they will not address the root of their addiction, I doubt they will ever get out of that terrible situation.
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May 16, 2019, 03:58:29 AM
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I think this word degenerate is a negative one for any person let alone someone who wants to risk a game for money.  If they want to do this type of thing for entertainer=meant value ok then. 
If it is doing it everyday then it might be a problem 

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May 16, 2019, 04:11:15 AM
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Gambling may be bad but it's also another way to enjoy life and you must have limitation when gambling. Start with the money you afford to lose so that you still have money. Having strategy can also help you think gambling is not all about bringing a negative impact on your life. Stay Posirive, avoid getting involved too much.
The most important thing is you know what game are you playing, familiarity about each game is one factor that may bring positive outcome in everything that we do and specially when we are dealing with gamblers so the best thing is know you game,know your self and expect only enough and never aim for higher winnings because this same reason why gamblers become addicted as they don't put limitations in their gambling habits so look around and learn from somebody's mistakes so won't become one









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May 17, 2019, 09:00:36 AM
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I think this word degenerate is a negative one for any person let alone someone who wants to risk a game for money.  If they want to do this type of thing for entertainer=meant value ok then. 
If it is doing it everyday then it might be a problem 
No word is too bad to be used on a person that wishes to destroy himself, compulsive gambling is a very negative way of gambling, and using negative words on compulsive gamblers should not be termed bad if that would transform them to become better players.

I don’t think anyone would use names on a person that decides to just entertain themselves in gambling without playing to the extreme. Gambling is fun and very good for entertainment but then, there should be a place for moderation in playing. Playing without control till one end up addicted makes the player degenerate. So I don’t care how people feel about this name because I feel, those compulsive gamblers really need to come back to their senses.

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May 17, 2019, 09:29:45 AM
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That might varies, based on your personal experience but categorically, people that gamble are not degenerated in any form, if such a gambler would put fort the power of self discipline. Have been gambling, and had never be degenerated since my start till date, becasue i gamble with sense, and responsibly, for fun, and for entertainment.   
Self-discipline is still the best attitude towards gambling. Because if we only play without setting limits for ourselves, surely we will end up being addicted and with addiction follows lot of crimes and big losses in the end. We should only gamble for fun and not to gamble senseless and seriously.

Though it is easier said than done, but self-discipline is really your real enemy here.
If all gamblers are gambling just for fun, I doubt those casinos will earn huge amount of money.
Those who become addicted have other purpose other than to entertain themselves, money is of course the obvious major reason.
Those who become addicted are the ones heading to a degenerate life. If they will not address the root of their addiction, I doubt they will ever get out of that terrible situation.
You have a very good point mate, where would casino sites generate income if everyone was just playing for fun. The most important way to play is just to be sensible in playing. And I disagree that money is the reason why people get addicted.

I think there are so many people that have emotional issues and when they bring it to gambling, they allow it becloud their sense of reasoning. The best is to take emotions out of gambling and everyone would be a better gambler. A man breaks up with his relationship and the next decision he takes is to gamble because he feels it would make him forget his worries easily and by the time we know it, he gets carried a way with the game and ends up addicted.

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May 17, 2019, 10:01:18 AM
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My uncle told me a story once.

Two guys are sitting in a bar. One is a smoker and the other isn't. The guy who doesn't smoke asks his friend why he is smoking. He calls him an idiot for spending so much money on cigarettes. He says that if he had saved all that money that he spent on cigarettes all those years he could have bought a brand new Ferrari now.

The friend who smokes replies. Do you smoke?
His friend says 'No'.
Well where is your Ferrari then?

The point is whether you gamble or not you will always find ways to spend money on things you don't really need, just look around you. Do you really need a brand new mobile phone every year? Luxury watches, jewellery, 5 pairs of sneakers per year. Why do you need to go to the stadium and pay those ridiculously expensive tickets when you can watch the game on TV?

People like spending money for various reasons and gambling is just one of them. It is only a problem if it affects your health and the safety or you and your family.  

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May 17, 2019, 08:35:45 PM
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I don't think so, if these people are degenerate in mind then the government should ban all forms of gambling because they do not want a society with degenerate minds, some go to gambling sites for entertainment and some to make money of course, there's a risk factor, but if you have a supportive friends and family you will not end up as a compulsive gambler.
You can get both experiences from the two types of gamblers which will affect your mentality with which you look at gambling. Those gamblers who usually lose in the gambling will always resist you to abstain yourself from gambling but those gamblers who are having a good time with it will encourage you to do the same. You should not really make your mind to start gambling just for money reason.
Yeah some people use to do this when they get bad experience so they try to make other people aware of the all bad about gambling but it does not mean they are jealous or something else maybe they don’t want you to lose the way they did, if you will gain experience from then and try to figure out what was the reason of their lose try to avoid those mistakes and learn from it.
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May 17, 2019, 09:02:01 PM
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Whoever participate in gambling is fully aware of what you called the horrible side of gambling in my opinion. I believe you develop a negative mind against gambling maybe because you must have lost huge amount of money through gambling and I don't blame you but we need not to use that one in discouraging people from participating in gambling whom may end making good money.
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May 17, 2019, 09:09:49 PM
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I don't think so, if these people are degenerate in mind then the government should ban all forms of gambling because they do not want a society with degenerate minds, some go to gambling sites for entertainment and some to make money of course, there's a risk factor, but if you have a supportive friends and family you will not end up as a compulsive gambler.
You can get both experiences from the two types of gamblers which will affect your mentality with which you look at gambling. Those gamblers who usually lose in the gambling will always resist you to abstain yourself from gambling but those gamblers who are having a good time with it will encourage you to do the same. You should not really make your mind to start gambling just for money reason.
Yeah some people use to do this when they get bad experience so they try to make other people aware of the all bad about gambling but it does not mean they are jealous or something else maybe they don’t want you to lose the way they did, if you will gain experience from then and try to figure out what was the reason of their lose try to avoid those mistakes and learn from it.

It will just depend on how you do approach towards gambling yet we know that there are different types of gamblers which one do mainly
aim for making profit and one who do aim on seeking entertainment and for those who lose up mostly will surely tell you that you should avoid
gambling but for those who do enjoy without minding losing will normally invite you to play.It would just depend on how yourself will end up
between on two sides.

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May 17, 2019, 11:17:09 PM
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I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

No, they are not, only those people who think they are, gambling has been part of human existence and it exists in all the generation and in all races, even in a country where gambling is prohibited, gambling has always been a form of entertainment it is up to government and individual to never get addicted to this.

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May 18, 2019, 09:56:43 AM
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I think this word degenerate is a negative one for any person let alone someone who wants to risk a game for money.  If they want to do this type of thing for entertainer=meant value ok then.  
If it is doing it everyday then it might be a problem  
No word is too bad to be used on a person that wishes to destroy himself, compulsive gambling is a very negative way of gambling, and using negative words on compulsive gamblers should not be termed bad if that would transform them to become better players.

I don’t think anyone would use names on a person that decides to just entertain themselves in gambling without playing to the extreme. Gambling is fun and very good for entertainment but then, there should be a place for moderation in playing. Playing without control till one end up addicted makes the player degenerate. So I don’t care how people feel about this name because I feel, those compulsive gamblers really need to come back to their senses.
On the contrary, using harsh words or calling these compulsive gamblers terrible names as these would not change them in any way, instead it will only make things worse. The reason why most people become addicted to gambling is because they are trying to heal from a wound. Research was carried out sometime back and it was realized that many people who have suffered one trauma or the other, either in their early childhood or as grown up adults have the tendency to suffer gambling addiction.

I feel addicted gamblers should be shown love rather than calling them names. Most of them are playing out of their will.
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May 18, 2019, 01:07:16 PM
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I don't think so, if these people are degenerate in mind then the government should ban all forms of gambling because they do not want a society with degenerate minds, some go to gambling sites for entertainment and some to make money of course, there's a risk factor, but if you have a supportive friends and family you will not end up as a compulsive gambler.
You can get both experiences from the two types of gamblers which will affect your mentality with which you look at gambling. Those gamblers who usually lose in the gambling will always resist you to abstain yourself from gambling but those gamblers who are having a good time with it will encourage you to do the same. You should not really make your mind to start gambling just for money reason.
Yeah some people use to do this when they get bad experience so they try to make other people aware of the all bad about gambling but it does not mean they are jealous or something else maybe they don’t want you to lose the way they did, if you will gain experience from then and try to figure out what was the reason of their lose try to avoid those mistakes and learn from it.

Very interesting story. Thank you for sharing. I think different people with how they like to spend their money and they do it mostly on what gives them Joy. I like to spend my money on drinking and I don’t care how much a bottle of wine cost, as long as it is my brand, I would buy it and I have a brother who likes to spend on women, it is always freaking annoying when I see how much he spends on women at the club, but I never judge him for his actions, because I know that I am not perfect either.

I think we should learn to respect people’s decisions and stop using bad words on gamblers. That people spend their money gambling does not mean they do not invest in other things, its just their own way of having fun.
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May 19, 2019, 04:59:11 AM
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It's their money and they can do whatever they want on it as long as they do not harm anybody, it's just your perception, there are people who gamble just to entertain themselves and there are who gamble for profit, they satisfy their needs, and wants it's not up to us to judge them and impose our judgement on people, gambling is not a crime.

Yes, you are right. Let them decide whatever they want to do with their money. Even if they spend all of their money, we cannot judge and easy to say they are wrong because we don't know what they think about gambling. But we can always suggest them not to use all of their money in gambling games because we will lose the money no matter how much we use that money. I am sure that if they are aware of that, they will think twice to use all of the money because they will think to use the money for other things.

I am always of the viewpoint that it is difficult to convince anyone on how much money he or she should spend on gambling. No matter how much we convnice them, people are emotional and do what their heart or mind says. I have warned few of my frineds of not to go all in, in gambling and they agre to me also, but later when they play, they got enotional and spend all of thier money, resulted in a big loss.

Thats why i say that people will not listen to our advices. They will learn from thier mistakes.

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May 19, 2019, 05:35:18 AM
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I think we can lay tons of informations here but I don't think that all of them will change your mind. I mean, you are still the one responsible if you want to change your perspective or not.

However, having a negative view on people who just spends their time in gambling is not a crime. Personally, I feel bad for them, too. I think there's something more that they could do with their money, time, and life in general. But, what more can I do right? It's their life so it's their say. Just like everybody else, they may also have their reason for doing such.

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