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1. Introduction.

Back in November 2018 (see Analysis - DT Depth 2 - Profile Distribution), I took some time to take a look at how DT trust looked from an overall point of view. What I did then was retrieve all trust scores from a DT depth 2 point of view, and see how many forum members had what range of trust score based on this view. After all, DT depth 2 is the most common view most forum members, and it seemed interesting to see what they saw.

Since then, the DT configuration has been shaken quite a bit, and it seemed interesting to perform a similar updated analysis. On this occasion though I will not analyse all user profiles (basically because I lack a complete recent full user profile DB scrape), but rather I’ll focus on those forum members that are included in at least one Custom Trust List (be that trust relation of Trust or Distrust). This gives us the view of those included in trust lists from a DT depth 2 viewpoint. 

The base considered is that of the 8.868 forum profiles included in a Customized Trust Network.

Trust has 3 components (A: B /C), where:

  A is the Trust Score.
  B is the number of unique users who have given the profile negative feedback.
  C is the number of unique users who have given the profile positive feedback.

I’ve included a complete list with all the underlying information here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SBM3pmp0wVSETROtFUynE6yFvBbtTUS-DwSJQcXTiN8/edit?usp=sharing
Note that the trust scrore was scraped yesterday, and already today I can see changes in relation to the current DT Depth 2 scores.


2. Trust Score (A) - Distribution

Trust Score (A) has the following distribution across those included in a Custom Trust List:


Things that stand out:

a) 1.608 profiles have positive trust (18,13% of considered profiles), 1.428 have negative trust or unknown (16,10%), and the remaining 5.832 profiles have this value set to cero (65,77%).

b) Positive trust is concentrated on Legendries (441), Hero Members (329), Sr. Members (298), Full Members (198), and Members (151) … and strangely enough Newbies (123).

d) Negative or unknown Trust is concentrated on Sr.Members (309), Full Members (274) Newbies (263), Heroes (202), Legendries (186) and  Members (150).

e) There are 49 entries will a Null value, corresponding to profiles with the value ?? (unknown), a deliberate part of the Trust score algorithm.

 
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682: -0 / +74       Legendary           346731    minerjones                    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=346731
553: -0 / +56       Legendary           134378    Blazed                        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=134378
419: -0 / +42       Staff               54791     Dabs                          https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=54791
358: -0 / +42       Hero Member         1000199   krogothmanhattan              https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1000199
340: -0 / +34       Legendary           113670    Mitchell                      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=113670
335: -0 / +36       Legendary           352429    BitcoinPenny                  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=352429
329: -0 / +36       Legendary           160943    greenplastic                  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=160943
320: -0 / +32       Legendary           402550    digicoinuser                  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=402550
318: -0 / +34       Legendary           353680    chronicsky                    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=353680
314: -0 / +34       Legendary           206143    Lesbian Cow                   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=206143
309: -0 / +32       Legendary           881377    Hhampuz                       https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=881377
300: -0 / +30       Legendary           133846    monbux                        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=133846
300: -0 / +30       Legendary           224612    bithalo                       https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=224612
296: -0 / +31       Hero Member         369879    Zepher                        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=369879
289: -0 / +30       Legendary           18640     SebastianJu                   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18640
270: -0 / +27       Legendary           279158    wheelz1200                    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=279158
270: -0 / +27       Legendary           81962     monkeynuts                    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81962
258: -0 / +27       Legendary           15728     TECSHARE                      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15728
250: -0 / +25       Legendary           81292     Stunna                        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81292
242: -0 / +29       Legendary           507936    DarkStar_                     https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=507936
240: -0 / +24       Legendary           25960     smoothie                      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=25960
240: -0 / +24       Legendary           47306     Pistachio                     https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=47306
230: -0 / +23       Legendary           109430    TookDk                        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=109430
230: -0 / +23       Legendary           37522     Tomatocage                    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=37522
230: -0 / +24       Legendary           65034     dozerz                        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=65034
 

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trust               rank                user_Id   Name                          URL
-9999: -14 / +0     Jr. Member          2228377   SmartPayMINT                  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2228377
-9999: -17 / +1     Full Member         298715    arguelles84                   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=298715
-9999: -17 / +20    Legendary           358020    Quickseller                   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=358020
-9999: -14 / +4     VIP                 67058     TradeFortress ??              https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=67058
-9999: -14 / +0     Hero Member         874254    game-protect                  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=874254
-9999: -21 / +15    Hero Member         89329     master-P                      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=89329
-8192: -13 / +0     Jr. Member          1764044   alia                          https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1764044
-8192: -13 / +0     Sr. Member          355462    Thule                         https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355462
-8192: -13 / +0     Newbie              650557    magic max                     https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=650557
-4096: -12 / +0     Full Member         709833    Embroiderymate                https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709833
-2048: -11 / +0     Newbie              2472107   H8bussesNbicycles             https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2472107
-2048: -11 / +0     Newbie              2536607   gwsukabokepjepang             https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2536607
-2048: -11 / +0     Legendary           8198      Inaba                         https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198
-2048: -11 / +0     Sr. Member          840084    VINSIN                        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=840084
-2046: -11 / +2     Hero Member         177007    Pierre11                      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=177007
-1024: -10 / +0     Newbie              2143568   BitMiner713                   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2143568
-1024: -10 / +0     Sr. Member          696473    Skeptical One                 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=696473
-1021: -10 / +3     Legendary           60727     lenny_                        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=60727
-1006: -10 / +18    Sr. Member          343899    BiPolarBob                    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=343899
-512: -9 / +0       Legendary           197593    amaclin                       https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=197593
-512: -9 / +0       Full Member         44366     BFL                           https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=44366
-512: -9 / +0       Full Member         397854    Ninjahitoko                   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=397854
-512: -9 / +0       Member              63314     BFL_Josh                      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=63314
-512: -9 / +0       Member              800061    The Prince Of Egifts          https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=800061
-256: -8 / +0       Sr. Member          911719    4x4et                         https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911719
 



3. Unique users that have given negative ratings to a profile (B) - Distribution

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4. Unique users that have given positive ratings to a profile (C) - Distribution

Global distribution:


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Nice tool, thanks!

I also want to give a shout out to Smartypantsmint.  In only a few months here on the forum he managed to catapult all the way to the top of the distrusted list, besting even Quickseller who has spent years gaining negative trust.  Really amazing!

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Based on the high percentage of people with negative ratings, it doesn’t appear this goal has been met:
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major goal of this is to allow retaliatory distrusts and ratings to actually have some chance of mattering so that contentious ratings have an actual cost

Based on the fact that the majority of people have no ratings at all (within DT), it appears many people are in DT who don’t participate in the marketplace. This begs the question as to why they are able to influence the marketplace.

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Based on the high percentage of people with negative ratings, it doesn’t appear this goal has been met:
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major goal of this is to allow retaliatory distrusts and ratings to actually have some chance of mattering so that contentious ratings have an actual cost

Based on the fact that the majority of people have no ratings at all (within DT), it appears many people are in DT who don’t participate in the marketplace. This begs the question as to why they are able to influence the marketplace.

More worrying is how they can influence/crush free speech.

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I'm fascinated with members that have unusually low trust scores.

The story of magic max is an inspiring tale of how much one can accomplish with so little.

In a spattering of 14 amazing posts written on 2 separate days, he managed to rack up 16 negative trusts, never to return.

In his brief time at the forum, he:

- requested a 0.1 BTC no-collateral loan (his first post, coming out of the gate hot)
- wanted to exchange $300 in PayPal for 1 BTC, despite BTC being $330 at the time ("no escrow, no bs, you send first then i send")
- started a "free escrow service"
- framed another member of the forum using their BTC address as his own
- requested 120 BTC in another loan
- started a "Double Your Money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" investor-based game
- tried to buy positive trust and trust list inclusions (managed to snag one, from a Newbie, for $3)
- bid on a Full Member account
- started his own loan service

He was a real motivated go-getter, now part of history.

Press F to pay respects.

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I'm fascinated with members that have unusually low trust scores.

The story of magic max is an inspiring tale of how much one can accomplish with so little.

In a spattering of 14 amazing posts written on 2 separate days, he managed to rack up 16 negative trusts, never to return.

In his brief time at the forum, he:

- requested a 0.1 BTC no-collateral loan (his first post, coming out of the gate hot)
- wanted to exchange $300 in PayPal for 1 BTC, despite BTC being $330 at the time ("no escrow, no bs, you send first then i send")
- started a "free escrow service"
- framed another member of the forum using their BTC address as his own
- requested 120 BTC in another loan
- started a "Double Your Money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" investor-based game
- tried to buy positive trust and trust list inclusions (managed to snag one, from a Newbie, for $3)
- bid on a Full Member account
- started his own loan service

He was a real motivated go-getter, now part of history.

Press F to pay respects.
He was almost certainly a troll.

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He was almost certainly a troll.

His attempt to frame another member would certainly point to that being the case. Nevertheless, it was an entertaining read.

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