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March 14, 2019, 06:02:46 PM
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gratulation:

https://www.ccn.com/bitcointalk-lost-a-third-of-its-users-in-february

if the community of bitcoin talk keeps drying down, it wont be good for Bitcoin Either.

you are sitting on a treearm that is running out of juice

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March 14, 2019, 06:05:26 PM
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gratulation:

https://www.ccn.com/bitcointalk-lost-a-third-of-its-users-in-february

if the community of bitcoin talk keeps drying down, it wont be good for Bitcoin Either.

you are sitting on a treearm that is running out of juice

No. Those are simply the financially motivated shit posting scum that were ruining the place. Just another 33.3% reduction and we will start to see far more useful collisions between real enthusiasts.

Next we just need 70% of the current DT to leave and the systems of control to be fixed up a bit and we will be flying again.

These reductions in numbers of quick buck spammers are GOOD for bitcoin and this movement in general.

Don't fool yourself they will be staying away though... as soon as they smell a good old bull run coming then expect them to return.

Nobody who discovers crypto ever really leaves. Only the enthusiasts stick around during long bears.

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March 14, 2019, 06:06:23 PM
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This is the historical norm in every bear market, right?

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March 14, 2019, 06:07:55 PM
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gratulation:

https://www.ccn.com/bitcointalk-lost-a-third-of-its-users-in-february

if the community of bitcoin talk keeps drying down, it wont be good for Bitcoin Either.

you are sitting on a treearm that is running out of juice

No. Those are simply the financially motivated shit posting scum that were ruining the place. Just another 33.3% reduction and we will start to see far more useful collisions between real enthusiasts.

financially motivated you say... like the bitcoin whales and the admins of this comunity?

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March 14, 2019, 06:13:17 PM
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Let the media do their job. Who cares? Those true Bitcoiners do not care at all. Good luck with that. Sometimes spreading FUD brings better outcome.

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March 14, 2019, 06:25:08 PM
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gratulation:

https://www.ccn.com/bitcointalk-lost-a-third-of-its-users-in-february

if the community of bitcoin talk keeps drying down, it wont be good for Bitcoin Either.

you are sitting on a treearm that is running out of juice

No. Those are simply the financially motivated shit posting scum that were ruining the place. Just another 33.3% reduction and we will start to see far more useful collisions between real enthusiasts.

financially motivated you say... like the bitcoin whales and the admins of this comunity?

This is  a fair point.

Well we are ALL financially motivated or were. It is natural. Anyone claiming they are not or were not at some point are likely lying.

However, deliberately text spinning others work, spamming, scamming, pumping garbage projects and doing anything that they know is ruining this entire movement and diluting others hard work is damaging. When they leave it is not like a tree running out of sap. It is like a tree no longer saturated in destructive parasites. We can not say at all their leaving is going to have a negative impact on the movement as a whole.

Actually anyone -- rich or poor , noob or admin that are willing to damage/game the board or the environment here for "extra" financial gain would not be missed imho. Numbers are not so important as a strong cohesive group.

I am just saying an organism ridding itself of net negative parasites is not a weaker or dying organism. This is a false assumption.


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March 14, 2019, 06:28:26 PM
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Considering Bitcoin (along with most cryptocurrency) price crashed 70-99% from ATH, losing 1/3 user (or perhaps traffic views) isn't that bad.

Additionally, IMO most of leaver are people who only looking for money.

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March 14, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
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Let the media do their job. Who cares?
They do a shitty job in general, which is why I don't watch TV or even keep up with the world.  I find that I can function just fine without keeping abreast of world news.  On the other hand, crypto news does interest me but based on this article and others I've seen from CCN, I don't think that organization is reputable.  They obviously have some bias (which I happen to agree with, but it's bias nonetheless), and that's a huge red flag in my eyes.

The info in that article does make sense, though.  People aren't going to be as enthusiastic about an asset that's not doing much of anything other than existing at a price that's much lower than what it was at the end of 2017.  It shouldn't be surprising that google searches have dropped drastically if the mainstream media isn't reporting on bitcoin as much, but that doesn't worry me.  I've been into crypto long enough to know that lulls like this don't last forever, and that bitcoin will eventually start to move.

The question in my mind as I read this was what does this mean for all of these signature campaigns and bounties that rely on eyeballs?  Decreased traffic seems to imply that fewer people are going to be seeing all of this advertising, so I'm wondering if campaigns and bounties are headed toward oblivion. 

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March 14, 2019, 06:48:55 PM
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Let the media do their job. Who cares?

The question in my mind as I read this was what does this mean for all of these signature campaigns and bounties that rely on eyeballs?  Decreased traffic seems to imply that fewer people are going to be seeing all of this advertising, so I'm wondering if campaigns and bounties are headed toward oblivion.  

I knew that would be your first concern.

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March 14, 2019, 06:54:05 PM
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That's nonsense data, an estimate from a Web analytics company based on who-knows-what.

The real data shows for example:
 - Late February 2018: ~3.51 million total ad impressions per day
 - Early January 2019: ~3.44 million total ad impressions per day
 - Late February 2019: ~3.41 million total ad impressions per day

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March 14, 2019, 06:56:03 PM
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That's nonsense data, an estimate from a Web analytics company based on who-knows-what.

The real data shows for example:
 - Late February 2018: ~3.51 million total ad impressions per day
 - Early January 2019: ~3.44 million total ad impressions per day
 - Late February 2019: ~3.41 million total ad impressions per day
Is this data from Google Analytics?

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March 14, 2019, 07:02:26 PM
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Is this data from Google Analytics?

No, it's based on data collected server-side on every ad impression. No JavaScript analytics is used.

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March 14, 2019, 07:10:04 PM
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It seems there are many people lose interest in bitcoin according to google trends and I think they are thinking that there is no hope for bitcoin to rise back again.

Why they use the google trends data it is just a search interest where people use the google search engine to find something. I am sure many people know bitcoin already so they don't need to use google to find about bitcoin.

Many users use bitcoin and  I think we are growing as what I see compared on the past years ago except to December 2017. They don't need google trends to estimate the value of bitcoin they should study the history of bitcoin from the beginning so that they know what is the price of bitcoin years ago.

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March 14, 2019, 07:40:23 PM
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Is this data from Google Analytics?

No, it's based on data collected server-side on every ad impression. No JavaScript analytics is used.

Ok. As Bitcointalk uses CloudFlare now, would you mind to share the unique visitor data from CloudFlare?

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March 14, 2019, 08:00:24 PM
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Ok. As Bitcointalk uses CloudFlare now, would you mind to share the unique visitor data from CloudFlare?

For the last month:
 - Total unique visitors: 2,225,590
 - Maximum unique visitors per day: 237,632
 - Minimum unique visitors per day: 137,979

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March 14, 2019, 08:05:19 PM
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Let the media do their job. Who cares?
They do a shitty job in general, which is why I don't watch TV or even keep up with the world.  I find that I can function just fine without keeping abreast of world news.  On the other hand, crypto news does interest me but based on this article and others I've seen from CCN, I don't think that organization is reputable.  They obviously have some bias (which I happen to agree with, but it's bias nonetheless), and that's a huge red flag in my eyes.
When I see CCN it reminds me CNN. Obviously they mimicked CNN and tried to confuse people. I also do not see that they have much reputation except the site was created in 1992.

Anyway, after seeing theymos's two response, OP should have very clear idea now that the news was just a noise. Some people sitting on their desk and writing some made up story.

Let's leave the topic and move on.

Cheers :-)

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March 14, 2019, 09:13:08 PM
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Price goes up, price goes down....
users goes up, users go down ....
rinse and repeat.

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March 14, 2019, 09:42:20 PM
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So, I don't understand point of this article. Is it something surprising that traffic of Bitcoin forum is going dow, considering long bear market and crypto is down by ~70% or something? Because it would be strange to see increasing number of active forum users in current market conditions. And theymos post shows that these stats from public resources isn't always accurate. It's easy to create fake news nowadays...
But I also see positive side of decreased number of active forum users. 1.5 year ago it was impossible to use forum and have good discussions. Thousands of people who came here just for money were making generic shitposts in spam megathreads without reading anything. Now Bitcointalk isn't perfect, but situation is much better than we had in past. But I'm not sure about main reason which helped to improve forum - is it just because of bear market, or merit system did what it was supposed to do? Or maybe both things have influence...




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March 14, 2019, 09:52:58 PM
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CCN is just a news blog specialized in cryptocurrency that receives fewer visitors than bitcointalk...

BTW, It would be interesting if in the Press section we had this distinction. Among blogs and websites specialized in cryptocurrency, which would be posted in other sections, and news and articles from traditional news websites like CNN, Bloomberg, NY Times etc.
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March 14, 2019, 11:12:06 PM
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What's with CNN, no news to be posted? Let those weak hands mourn for they lose yet no learning to be learnt and will back again if they knew bitcoin rising up one more time.

Or is it the fact that forum has slowly cleaning up the trolls, shitposters and spambies. For some reason ICOs isn't profitable way back 2017 and those who wants just to join to profit in bounties are declining as well. That article is clearly one sided.

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