Hhampuz being campaign manager of casinos with no adress or license

[Quickseller]

Not even Quickseller is jumping on his side. 

Unlike most people in this thread, my views on issues and disputes do not change based on who is involved.

If you accept the presumption that not having a business license, nor a physical address makes your business untrustworthy, what Thule is advocating for is not outside of the mainstream, in fact some people in this thread who are opposed to what Thule has advocated for have essentially forced (or tired to force via the threat of negative trust) people to stop advertising other untrustworthy businesses, that are actually untrustworthy. I myself have messaged participants of a signature campaign I was running urging people to stop advertising for a business that turned out to be a scam, once it was confirmed it was a scam.

I previously explained why I don't think the lack of a business license makes a casino untrustworthy. There is perhaps a slightly stronger argument that the lack of a physical address makes the casino untrustworthy, however many in the crypto world have scammed whose identities were either public prior to the scam, or were dox'ed after the fact, and there are probably less than 5 who had anything happen to them, so I don't think a "physical address" will do much in terms of player/customer safety.

The argument that Thule is not going after *all* casino's without a license (and other scams in the ponzi section) and therefore his current argument against Hhampuz is a red-herring because he does not have the resources to go after every single scam business, and must use his resources efficiently. Similarly, the fact that Thule is not going to the authorities about these businesses is a distraction because he cannot force law enforcement to go after these businesses, and they may not if the business is not generating enough business to account for using law enforcement's resources, and law enforcement not going after a business is not an excuse for someone supporting said business if they are doing something harmful. Hhampuz is helping businesses referenced in the OP conduct business and generate additional business by running their signature campaigns, and if these businesses are actually doing harmful things to their customers, he should stop doing so as soon as practical.

Any argument other than the referenced businesses are not harming their (potential) customers (or something similar thereto) is invalid, IMO.

I think this rating is one more example of why you are a follower and not a leader. I do not doubt that you will be unwilling (or more likely, unable) to defend this rating in any way if/when anyone tries to call you out on it, or otherwise tries to discuss it with you. Thule calling someone out for helping a company advertise that he says he believes is untrustworthy does not make him a scammer. Any negative ratings given to him for this thread are an attempt to silence him from asking difficult questions -- except in this case, he is not even asking difficult questions (his arguments in this case are not difficult to counter), so perhaps it would not only be a sign of a lack of integrity, but also a lack of intellectual capacity.   

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Why don't DT members do the same on ICO scams ?But handle it intern in the forum ?
Again diffrent standards ?

DT is not a job. It comes with exactly 0 obligations and duties.

Maybe you should read again how and why someone becomes DT.

Edit: Also there are some DTs and other member of the forum doing exactly THAT.

If you believe this is the right thing to do, stop whining and do it yourself ffs.

Nice Quote,
Could you mention the duties of DT here?

[cabalism13]

Nice Quote,
Could you mention the duties of DT here?

This seems to be off topic shit-head, go and make your own, your messing up this good-for-nothing thread of the OP (but its somewhat entertaining to see, it consumed my almost an hout time to read all of the 5 paged feedbacks.).


Have missed the party, sad thing.
Kinda like the last part of feedback of QS.

[marlboroza]

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As I said, stop shitposting and putting everything you can in your post to look like you wrote something meaningful.

We as managers get messages from potential clients(or message them apparently lol) and the process starts. We do a little research into the casino, exchange, dice site, wallet, etc.

Not professional site:

This is such an easy way to double your money. With provably fair you have very good chances to win also.

Lies to customers. Gambling, such an easy way to double money, right 

Broken software:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106215.msg50192369#msg50192369
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106215.msg50197257#msg50197257

Took me exactly 2 minutes to see this.

@Thule maybe next time go directly to announcement thread with some facts? Lazy people 

[cryptohunter]

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As I said, stop shitposting and putting everything you can in your post to look like you wrote something meaningful.

We as managers get messages from potential clients(or message them apparently lol) and the process starts. We do a little research into the casino, exchange, dice site, wallet, etc.

Not professional site:

This is such an easy way to double your money. With provably fair you have very good chances to win also.

Lies to customers. Gambling, such an easy way to double money, right  

Broken software:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106215.msg50192369#msg50192369
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106215.msg50197257#msg50197257

Took me exactly 2 minutes to see this.

@Thule maybe next time go directly to announcement thread with some facts? Lazy people  

Please fool that is not a sensible rebuttal to the clear points that I am making.

Of course such a low functioning dreg as yourself would not dare attempt a real debate with me.

Now reread the post again and use your limited capacity to try and grasp the very simple point I am making. Then make a sensible rebuttal. Or just admit you are all double standards dog shit posting sig spammers.

Honestly bring me here now one original thought inspiring post you have ever made on this board so that I can pull it to pieces and laugh at you all over again. You are a maggot and trust abusing piece of dirt supporting others even worse than yourself.

You simply do not have the capacity to even differentiate between a shit post and a hugely net  positive contribution.

Remove your huge sig you dirty spammer before using my valuable contributions to eek out further btc dust you broke ass fool.

[Thule]

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Wow you really tick all the boxes for an unsecure narcissist.

Why this compulsive need to compare yourself to others (myself in that case).

I couldn't give a damn that you uncovered a scam in your life. Cool story bro. Thank you for your service. The fact you need to tell everyone every chance you got shows what kind of a person you are.

What do you expect? To be thanked every day of your life for what you did? Grow up man.

You do things because of what you  believe in, not for others admiration or w/e.

I kinda feel pitty for you.

Are you always changing topics when you have no more arguments ?


About yahoo ,yeah i love your double standards.How does it come you support DT members who red tag ico scams based on suspision but don't demand from them to tagg their supporters promoters or anything else ?

Of course i could go to police and report all users.You think it would be any trouble to send an email ?
The question is do i want to harm people or do i want to warn people.

I know your intention is always to harm competition but my intention is to warn people.

Promoting these sites are ilegal.I informed about it on Hhampuz campaign threads which got deleted by a Mod (I guess Hellfish) .So tell me why are my legit warnings to bitcointalk members that promoting ilegal websites are ilegal being deleted by a forum Mod ?

Did i made a false statement ?Is warning members about ilegal activities not appropiate at that forum when its being run by a small known group on that forum ?

And to your other stupid attacks i will come back tonight.

You want me to report everything ?No problem like i offered Hhampuz give me your personal details and i will report everything which is ilegal.No big deal if you are asking for it.


And for your stupid question YES i have already accused theymos to be ignorant and he is very well aware of it.
I guess soon when i will post proof that members here get cheated by these casinos as they are in majority not fair games theymos will have no other choice than to change his point of view as i doubt he will promote any known scams (as i consider non fair games as scams on the players like the whole gambling community)


And for a personal note yahoo.I'm going now to inform any of your campaign owner that you support uncontrolled gambling which contributes to the endless shittyness and scams on this forum.
I guess its a fair action since you also supported the same words about me trying to buy an account for a friend to be able to post images.


Its funny you demand tagging account buyers even they are not proofen scammers and at the same time demand from casinos with no physical adress,company info or license # to be only tagged if they really scam even the predepostion to do so is way higher than when buying an account on that forum.

[Thule]

Not professional site:
Quote from: blackjack.fun on February 05, 2019, 12:56:22 AM
This is such an easy way to double your money. With provably fair you have very good chances to win also.
Lies to customers. Gambling, such an easy way to double money, right  Roll Eyes

Broken software:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106215.msg50192369#msg50192369
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106215.msg50197257#msg50197257

Took me exactly 2 minutes to see this.

@Thule maybe next time go directly to announcement thread with some facts? Lazy people  Roll Eyes

Once you do and your evidence is posted, I will be the first to back you.

You see it took him 2 minutes



Nice to see that my judgement didn't failed me which DT members i consider decent.

[marlboroza]

Now reread the post again

That is not going to happen. I am not interested to read your rants again. Stay focused on this part:

As I said, stop shitposting and putting everything you can in your post to look like you wrote something meaningful.

Not interested in reading. Not interested in debating because too scared. Okay moronbozo.

Actually I am not interested in playing chess with pigeon  

[cryptohunter]

Now reread the post again

That is not going to happen. I am not interested in reading your rants again. Stay focused on this part:

As I said, stop shitposting and putting everything you can in your post to look like you wrote something meaningful.

Not interested in reading. Not interested in debating because too scared. Okay moronbozo.

[TECSHARE]

Hhampuz has demonstrated to me recently his desire to reform his rating behavior to be more logic and evidence based rather than emotionally based as is the standard for some around here. Out of anyone who leaves frivolous ratings, he is near the very bottom of the list of people that are causing real problems. While I disagree with many of the people he deems trustworthy here, there are far better people to focus on than Hhampuz.

I am of the opinion he doesn't deserve this kind of treatment even if the point about a double standard may be completely valid. Learn to pick your battles instead of just striking out at people randomly. Or just write pages upon pages of indiscriminate condemnation of everyone and you can and continue to be ignored. Either one.

[cryptohunter]

Hhampuz has demonstrated to me recently his desire to reform his rating behavior to be more logic and evidence based rather than emotionally based as is the standard for some around here. Out of anyone who leaves frivolous ratings, he is near the very bottom of the list of people that are causing real problems. While I disagree with many of the people he deems trustworthy here, there are far better people to focus on than Hhampuz.

I am of the opinion he doesn't deserve this kind of treatment even if the point about a double standard may be completely valid. Learn to pick your battles instead of just striking out at people randomly. Or just write pages upon pages of indiscriminate condemnation of everyone and you can and continue to be ignored. Either one.

That is your opinion and if you find it valid then that is fine by me.

the way i see it

1. Hhampuz enables others to trust abuse and colludes to exclude the same members from DT as those trust abusers
2. Hhampuz demonstrates very clear double standards as I have described.
3. The only criticisms that I can see are those that are deserving and appropriate
a/ the enabling of trust abusers
b/ the double standards.
4/ This is not random.
5/ This is not indiscriminate.


I agree he is not the most potent of the dirt bags here nor should he be a PRIMARY focus ideally. However, since those that should be receiving the most attention are now pretty much entrenched within the broken systems of control because of the actions of those like Hhampuz, then those supporting are best dealt with first. |Perhaps chipping at the support of those fully entrenched is not entirely without merit.

Until he excludes those that are trust abusers and therefore STOPS sanctioning/enabling their actions he must be held to the same standards he approves of others being held to.

Campaign managers are in a very precarious position. It is important to distance themselves from any UNTRUSTWORTHY persons or their actions.

[Thule]

Hhampuz has demonstrated to me recently his desire to reform his rating behavior to be more logic and evidence based rather than emotionally based as is the standard for some around here.

I'm going to lock that thread.
@Hhampuz i really do belive these casinos have no fair system and would like to ask to not promote casinos with doubtfull practice no matter what reputation they have.
I received here always the claim of provably fair system.
I think we can agree that majority of users are not updating their clientseed every game which makes it open to casinos to predict the clientseed numbers and be able to create results they desire.
It would be at least an explanation why i got so many times instantly a nearly full street.



Also the request to involve legal authorities if i think its ilegal is something i deny.I do not wanna harm people but i also don't won't others to get cheated.Hunting and reporting these people to authorities would be  easily.
Also i guess FJ has been proofen to be a scam when forcing to accept the reduction of affiliates commission from 25% to 10% on old customers without their consent.

Of course FJ won't get tagged for that scam only people who are a week late with a loan repayment or anybody else.


I hope some DT members think about it and seeing the growth of decent DT members here on the forum makes me feel happy.