Tracking the Trust System's Stupid Shit

[OgNasty]

It's OK for him to believe I cherry pick my data, but not OK for me to believe he begs for free advertising for his ponzi?   What an ego...

What is not OK is saying I try to trade trust.  Lying is the reason his trust score keeps dropping.

1) I don't run a Ponzi.
2) I never asked you for free advertising.
3) I never accused you of trading trust, I accused you of begging me for mine.
4) Nothing to do with an ego, but everything to do with you being a liar.
5) Abuse of the trust system is why from your perspective my trust scored dropped.

5 lies in 4 sentences.  You're awesome Vod!  Keep it up!  Bury them dirty deeds my friend.  I'm sure your insecure use of the trust system and harassment of established members that actually help the Bitcoin community won't come back to haunt you at all.  Don't you have an algorithm to adjust or something?  Maybe you can apologize for lying and then ask for evidence like your buddy.  

To Zeroxal: I'm sorry. I'm sorry that the whole thing happened to you, and I'm sorry that you had to go through what you did. And I'm sorry for if I had any part of it. While I know you will never read this, but I hope that you accept my apology and we can put this whole thing (that you seem to have already moved on from, two years ago) behind us.

Everybody just going to pretend that minifrij didn't allude to Zeroxal being unable to ever check the forum again without providing an explanation while acknowledging he played a role in the extortion harassment before backpedaling?

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[Vod]

5 lies in 4 sentences.  You're awesome Vod!  Keep it up!

Lies?

You believe I cherry pick data.
I believe you run a ponzi.

Get over yourself. 

[minifrij]

EDIT: Apologizes and then asks for more evidence of the beaten horse?  LOL.  Clearly not enough time has passed yet.

Like your friend Quickseller, reading comprehension is clearly not your strong point. I'll let you figure it out.

Everybody just going to pretend that minifrij didn't just allude to Zeroxal being unable to ever check the forum again without providing an explanation or acknowledge he played a role in the extortion harassment?

He hasn't logged in for a month, and didn't pay much attention to forum matters (from what I can remember) when he was active. Chances are, he will never come to this thread and read what I said unless he is prompted to do so (and sees said prompt).

Use yer noggin. I know critical thinking (or reading, apparently) isn't your forte, but a baby could figure out what I meant there.

Yawn.

[OgNasty]

5 lies in 4 sentences.  You're awesome Vod!  Keep it up!

Lies?

You believe I cherry pick data.
I believe you run a ponzi.

Get over yourself.  

The difference is you do cherry pick data for your little rating system and that's a provable fact, which is funny because even the cherry picked data doesn't give you a high rank anymore so you've resorted to attacking established members to try and elevate yourself.  How sad for the community as a whole.  

I don't run a Ponzi.  This is also a provable fact.  Keep spreading lies.  That'll look great for your reputation in the future.  Keep digging.  I'll keep handing you back the shovel.

I'll also alert Zeroxal to this thread so he can see minifrij's apology.  I'm sure after all the harassment he received that night, even after so much time, an apology from one of the guilty parties will probably go a long way.

Don't forget that Vod is a liar.

So....

You believe I cherry pick data.
I believe you run a ponzi.

Get over yourself................................

Repeat the lies as much as you want in whatever childish fashion you see fit.  LOL.  I'm not going to leave you negative trust for it.  You're sitting in that hole alone buddy.

Remember when you told me that you'll never stop harassing Quickseller because he called you a pedophile?  You're the one with the thin skin for personal insults.  Thank you for illuminating the difference between us.

[Vod]

So....

You believe I cherry pick data.
I believe you run a ponzi.

Get over yourself................................

[Lesbian Cow]

Anyone else notice whenever I point out trust abuse, it seems to go ignored and I get attacked instead of my concern being responded to?  I wonder why that is?

Because you're a narcissistic prick who perceives anyone not worshiping you as "abuse"? Just a hunch. Might be some other reason.

I believe this is the correct answer

[Vod]

Remember when you told me that you'll never stop harassing Quickseller because he called you a pedophile?  You're the one with the thin skin for personal insults.  Thank you for illuminating the difference between us.

Remember when you told me that half your nastymining income was going to personal expenses?

:/

[OgNasty]

Anyone else notice whenever I point out trust abuse, it seems to go ignored and I get attacked instead of my concern being responded to?  I wonder why that is?

Because you're a narcissistic prick who perceives anyone not worshiping you as "abuse"? Just a hunch. Might be some other reason.

I believe this is the correct answer

Having self esteem and being proud of one's contributions is reason to harass and distrust someone?  We have very different ways of thinking.  Hopefully you don't ever accomplish anything you're proud of, I'd hate to see you attacked by these types of characters.  Your opinion might change.

I'm still trying to figure out why you willingly send me thousand of dollars with no escrow, but claim not to trust me?  It's almost like your ratings have an ulterior motive outside of who you actually trust.  Want to sell me that silver back at spot by the way?

Remember when you told me that half your nastymining income was going to personal expenses?

Oh shit, I nearly fell out of my chair laughing.  All NastyMining's mined coins are mined directly to the NastyFans donation address.  I literally never touch them until I receive a distribution for my shares that I purchased with my own BTC.  This is all public and provable.  I guess you're escalating the lies you're telling now?  You can see I'm even mining on a 3rd party and everything is public on the blockchain, so...  I guess we can watch as Vod's lies escalate in a pathetic attempt to receive retaliatory feedback so he doesn't look like such an immature pathetic individual.  Sorry.  Bathe in your regret Vod.

[actisstupidname]

TL;DR

It's all about tribes fighting each other incessantly.

Principles and policies are out the door. The trust system is indeed broken. Woe to innocent newbies, just go to alternate and friendlier forums.  

[Lesbian Cow]

Anyone else notice whenever I point out trust abuse, it seems to go ignored and I get attacked instead of my concern being responded to?  I wonder why that is?

Because you're a narcissistic prick who perceives anyone not worshiping you as "abuse"? Just a hunch. Might be some other reason.

I believe this is the correct answer

Having self esteem and being proud of one's contributions is reason to harass and distrust someone?  We have very different ways of thinking.  Hopefully you don't ever accomplish anything you're proud of, I'd hate to see you attacked by these types of characters.  Your opinion might change.

I'm still trying to figure out why you willingly send me thousand of dollars with no escrow, but claim not to trust me?  It's almost like your ratings have an ulterior motive outside of who you actually trust.  Want to sell me that silver back at spot by the way?

Remember when you told me that half your nastymining income was going to personal expenses?

Oh shit, I nearly fell out of my chair laughing.  All NastyMining funds are mined directly to the NastyFans donation address.  I literally never touch them until I receive a distribution for my shares that I purchased with my own BTC.  This is all public and provable.  I guess you're escalating the lies you're telling now?  You can see I'm even mining on a 3rd party and everything is public on the blockchain, so...  I guess we can watch as Vod's lies escalate in a pathetic attempt to receive retaliatory feedback so he doesn't look like such an immature pathetic individual.  Sorry.  Bathe in your regret Vod.

I trust you with money, 100%.  I do not trust your judgement of others anymore.  You honestly feel it was ok for Quickseller to escrow, for a fee, trades involving one of his alt accounts.  That is messed up man, and you should know it. 

[Vod]

Remember when you told me that half your nastymining income was going to personal expenses?

Oh shit, I nearly fell out of my chair laughing.  All NastyMining's mined coins are mined directly to the NastyFans donation address.  I literally never touch them until I receive a distribution for my shares that I purchased with my own BTC.  This is all public and provable.  I guess you're escalating the lies you're telling now?  You can see I'm even mining on a 3rd party and everything is public on the blockchain, so...  I guess we can watch as Vod's lies escalate in a pathetic attempt to receive retaliatory feedback so he doesn't look like such an immature pathetic individual.  Sorry.  Bathe in your regret Vod.

Well, that's all wonderful and nice, but do you remember when you told me that half your nastymining income was going to personal expenses?

[DireWolfM14]

Remember when you told me that half your nastymining income was going to personal expenses?

Oh shit, I nearly fell out of my chair laughing.  All NastyMining's mined coins are mined directly to the NastyFans donation address.  I literally never touch them until I receive a distribution for my shares that I purchased with my own BTC.  This is all public and provable.  I guess you're escalating the lies you're telling now?  You can see I'm even mining on a 3rd party and everything is public on the blockchain, so...  I guess we can watch as Vod's lies escalate in a pathetic attempt to receive retaliatory feedback so he doesn't look like such an immature pathetic individual.  Sorry.  Bathe in your regret Vod.

Well, that's all wonderful and nice, but do you remember when you told me that half your nastymining income was going to personal expenses?

Now now, boys.  Semantics;  Maybe OgNasty did say half of his NastyMining income is going to personal expenses, but that's not the same thing as half of NastyMining's income going to OgNasty's personal expenses. 

[Vod]

Now now, boys.  Semantics;  Maybe OgNasty did say half of his NastyMining income is going to personal expenses, but that's not the same thing as half of NastyMining's income going to OgNasty's personal expenses.  

OG wants to play the the "remember when?" game.  

That's where you indirectly accuse someone of something by asking a question.  The key is to make the question so close to the truth so that as many people as possible believe it.

[OgNasty]

I trust you with money, 100%.  I do not trust your judgement of others anymore.  You honestly feel it was ok for Quickseller to escrow, for a fee, trades involving one of his alt accounts.  That is messed up man, and you should know it. 

Well, then let me educate you how the trust system works since you don't understand.  If you trust someone with your money, you leave them a trust rating reflecting as such.  If you don't trust their judgement of others, you exclude them from your network.  Unless of course your motive is to try and damage someone's reputation and not have an honest trust system, then you troll them on the forum for years and don't leave them trust even though you trust them with your money.

It's a lie that I feel it was ok for Quickseller to escrow.  I don't.  I think it wasn't as bad as minerjones doxxing Canaryinthemine or minerjones allowing TMAN to manipulate his own auctions minerjones was hosting, so I don't feel he should be trolled for all eternity over it.  I don't support what he did, and certainly don't think it was OK.  I think it was a misguided attempt to hide his personal info and he's been punished for it.  His rep doesn't disappear because I made a deal with him.  He also has positive ratings from others, so why am I the only one who is singled out and harassed because of it.  The whole thing stinks of ulterior motives and it isn't exactly hard to see for those who take the time to read.

I honestly don't understand why you guys try so hard to connect me to Quickseller to the point you keep spreading these lies.  You're blowing smoke up the community's ass and expecting everyone to believe there's fire.

Let me turn the tables on you...  Lauda did a non-transparent escrow with minerjones and Blazed that resulted in the claimed losses of millions of dollars for investors.  Do you feel that is better than Quickseller trying to hide his address and refunding the users their fees?  I'm just trying to understand why some users can rip off the community for millions, be completely non-transparent, make the unilateral decision to release funds to the scammer, give no compensation while profiting from their role in the scam, and that's fine with you.  Help me understand.

Now now, boys.  Semantics;  Maybe OgNasty did say half of his NastyMining income is going to personal expenses, but that's not the same thing as half of NastyMining's income going to OgNasty's personal expenses. 

I don't have NastyMining income.  I literally receive 0 directly from NastyMining as it all goes to NastyFans, so I know this is a lie by Vod.  He doesn't even grasp the structure enough for his lies to make any sense.  I'm glad that people are starting to see the lies though.

[Quickseller]

Now now, boys.  Semantics;  Maybe OgNasty did say half of his NastyMining income is going to personal expenses, but that's not the same thing as half of NastyMining's income going to OgNasty's personal expenses. 

OG wants to play the the "remember when?" game. 

That's where you indirectly accuse someone of something by asking a question.  The key is to make the question so close to the truth so that as many people as possible believe it.

You literally just accused him of being a scammer for spending his own money....

I am not sure what kind of twisted logic you had to use to come to this conclusion.

I don’t think the trust system is even worth debating with you considering you don’t even understand how it works and your denying of facts that don’t support your position and your outright fabrications. Most people abandon their accounts (and often the forum) after you troll them and don’t bother to address their defenses.

OgN is right in saying that you only care about your ranking to stroke your ego. You would troll TECSHARE for months, only to stop when threatened with an exclusion from BadBear, which caused you to quickly remove the ratings against him. You will do whatever it takes to increase your stats here, regardless of how anyone else is affected.

[Lesbian Cow]

I trust you with money, 100%.  I do not trust your judgement of others anymore.  You honestly feel it was ok for Quickseller to escrow, for a fee, trades involving one of his alt accounts.  That is messed up man, and you should know it.  

Well, then let me educate you how the trust system works since you don't understand.  If you trust someone with your money, you leave them a trust rating reflecting as such.  If you don't trust their judgement of others, you exclude them from your network.  Unless of course your motive is to try and damage someone's reputation and not have an honest trust system, then you troll them on the forum for years and don't leave them trust even though you trust them with your money.

It's a lie that I feel it was ok for Quickseller to escrow.  I don't.  I think it wasn't as bad as minerjones doxxing Canaryinthemine or minerjones allowing TMAN to manipulate his own auctions minerjones was hosting, so I don't feel he should be trolled for all eternity over it.  I don't support what he did, and certainly don't think it was OK.  I think it was a misguided attempt to hide his personal info and he's been punished for it.  His rep doesn't disappear because I made a deal with him.  He also has positive ratings from others, so why am I the only one who is singled out and harassed because of it.  The whole thing stinks of ulterior motives and it isn't exactly hard to see for those who take the time to read.

I honestly don't understand why you guys try so hard to connect me to Quickseller to the point you keep spreading these lies.  You're blowing smoke up the community's ass and expecting everyone to believe there's fire.

Let me turn the tables on you...  Lauda did a non-transparent escrow with minerjones and Blazed that resulted in the claimed losses of millions of dollars for investors.  Do you feel that is better than Quickseller trying to hide his address and refunding the users their fees?  I'm just trying to understand why some users can rip off the community for millions, be completely non-transparent, make the unilateral decision to release funds to the scammer, give no compensation while profiting from their role in the scam, and that's fine with you.  Help me understand.

Now now, boys.  Semantics;  Maybe OgNasty did say half of his NastyMining income is going to personal expenses, but that's not the same thing as half of NastyMining's income going to OgNasty's personal expenses.  

I don't have NastyMining income.  I literally receive 0 directly from NastyMining as it all goes to NastyFans, so I know this is a lie by Vod.  He doesn't even grasp the structure enough for his lies to make any sense.  I'm glad that people are starting to see the lies though.

You don't understand the trust system.  I have not left you negative trust, I have eliminated you from my trust list as I do not trust your opinion of others.

Edit to add:  Lauda is nowhere on my trust list.  Also, I am not familiar with this Lauda/blazed/minerjones thing you reference.  If it is ICO stuff, i stay away.  Point me to it and I will have a read.

[Vod]

I honestly don't understand why you guys try so hard to connect me to Quickseller

It's hard to ignore when you shower him with merit.  :/

7 already today lol

[actisstupidname]

I trust you with money, 100%.  I do not trust your judgement of others anymore.  You honestly feel it was ok for Quickseller to escrow, for a fee, trades involving one of his alt accounts.  That is messed up man, and you should know it. 

This is some messed up logic. Money changes everything. Friendships get destroyed because of money issues. Monetary trust is the highest form of trust. That's why sites with feedback systems sees this as a vital part of their service. Even Bitcointalk USED TO allude to monetary trust (Trade with caution red tag).

Theymos should remove that statement in the red tag. It's a lie. The Trust System has become "How I feel about this user." How Millennial.

[OgNasty]

I trust you with money, 100%.

Well, then let me educate you how the trust system works since you don't understand.  If you trust someone with your money, you leave them a trust rating reflecting as such.

You don't understand the trust system.

OK...

Edit to add:  Lauda is nowhere on my trust list

It's cool for the other 2 to take part in the non-transparent escrow and profit from the loss of others though?  Just pointing out that you're a hypocrite is all.  Quickseller at least refunded the users he wronged...  minerjones took a European vacation while his escrow was resulting in the loss of millions of dollars in other users' funds.  All good though, right? 

Yes, this is real stupid shit that is actually occurring in the trust system.

I honestly don't understand why you guys try so hard to connect me to Quickseller

It's hard to ignore when you shower him with merit.  :/

7 already today lol

Maybe I'm warming him up to ask him to make changes to his trust list.    I learn from the best, wait, I mean I learn from the failures of others, so no, I just agree with his opinion as it seems you're the most insecure person on the forum.

[Vod]

I mean I learn from the failures of others, so no, I just agree with his opinion as it seems you're the most insecure person on the forum.

So you learned how to fail and built your ponzi mining operation?  

Quickseller at least refunded the users he wronged... 

No, he didn't.   Quicksy also doesn't have DT pull, so stop kissing his ass.