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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Winner: ITALY!  (Read 31320 times)
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July 12, 2021, 11:46:16 AM
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Would Italy have won against Denmark? I think it would have been more difficult against Denmark than against England. Denmark would certainly have shot more on goal than England did yesterday.  Wink
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July 12, 2021, 12:11:50 PM
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My guess is right, if this final goes to penalties then Italy will win. Maybe if I bet I'll have some extra pocket money. Being able to score a goal, England couldn't move before being locked up by Italy. Looks like the title of the host can not help their mental rise. In fact I was amazed by Italy they were able to control the ball and shoot more. Congratulations to Italy , congratulations Giorgio Chiellini this may be your last title for Italy.
Congratulations to italy for winning EURO 2020 at home to England and such a great achievement after returning the goal and sealing the match from England even though in the end the penalty shootout decided the win.

Harry Kane was worse than before why wasn't he more aggressive and Sterling didn't have a lot of gaps and it was more of a lock on the Italian defense to keep targeting England's main players but the defense was really good and it ended up being a win
Senior defenders Bonucci and Cheilini became the key to his success in Italy.

It's very sad for England to have to give up the trophy at home to another team.

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July 12, 2021, 01:15:53 PM
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Sad for Kane, and sad for the rest of the England boys (literally, actually,,, the ones who missed the penalties were almost all boys especially Saka) I just hope this loss for them does not affect them into the season. It was not their fault, we all know penalties are lottery tickets and anyone can win and lose just by doing something different.
This was the best performance by England in a really long time and Harry Kane is the sole reason they were in the final and as expected they were not able to breach the defense of England and Italy also played an attacking game and you cannot say that penalties are lottery tickets as you need to give respect to the goal keeper who was instrumental during high  pressure situation and keeping up with their composure.
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July 12, 2021, 01:17:27 PM
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My guess is right, if this final goes to penalties then Italy will win. Maybe if I bet I'll have some extra pocket money. Being able to score a goal, England couldn't move before being locked up by Italy. Looks like the title of the host can not help their mental rise. In fact I was amazed by Italy they were able to control the ball and shoot more. Congratulations to Italy , congratulations Giorgio Chiellini this may be your last title for Italy.
Congratulations to italy for winning EURO 2020 at home to England and such a great achievement after returning the goal and sealing the match from England even though in the end the penalty shootout decided the win.

Harry Kane was worse than before why wasn't he more aggressive and Sterling didn't have a lot of gaps and it was more of a lock on the Italian defense to keep targeting England's main players but the defense was really good and it ended up being a win
Senior defenders Bonucci and Cheilini became the key to his success in Italy.

It's very sad for England to have to give up the trophy at home to another team.

I have read a news that president EUFA has said the format of this league is unfair for players and suppoter, as long as this league there are many teams which got discrimination for their travel. EURO 2020 Format which use many countries that contributed is a bad format and EUFA dont want use this format anymore. England which can reach the final is one of the team which got the advantages for this format and their achievement is not strong as Italy team. 6 of 7 matches England at home.
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July 12, 2021, 01:31:37 PM
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I have expressed my prediction already, biased of course being an Italian, but I believe Italy is far superior compared to England and hopefully it will demonstrate it on the pitch.
Final result of the game is going to be either 2-1 or 3-1 for Italy. I put the money on the line for this epic game.
I lost some money but I do not really care. Yesterday night was truly an epic one for Italy and Italians. We showed the world what we can do when we respect what we truly are. We stood still against everything else: there was a sudden goal, a whole stadium for England but we made it.
One of the most beautiful games I witnessed in my life from the Azzurri, maybe only Italy Germany 2006 gave me similar feelings.
Awesome job Mancio.
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July 12, 2021, 01:37:22 PM
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Sad for Kane, and sad for the rest of the England boys (literally, actually,,, the ones who missed the penalties were almost all boys especially Saka) I just hope this loss for them does not affect them into the season.

Hats off to the Italians and Mancini vindication.
I was shocked to have seen Saka step up for the shootout. Naturally, I had predicted persons like Harry kane, Raheem Sterling, Marcus Rashford, L. Shaw and someonther person, an older player to be the once taking the shoots but to my amazement, a lot of young stars, over rated players where the once stepping up. Worst of all was, letting Saka take the final shoot. Such an important shoot for such a young player. I don't just get what was the plan or what was G. Southgate was thinking, gambling it perhaps and I guess his gamble didn't work. That's to say, they never meant business like Italy did and that's why, they had to win.

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July 12, 2021, 01:37:34 PM
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Yep, it was a mistake to give so much space to the Italians. I read somewhere that Kane didn't have a single touch on the ball in the Italy's box and that he failed to have a shot on goal only the 2nd time in his international career.

It was not just Kane though, all England's attacking players had a really bad game yesterday. Sometimes it's hard to get back into the offensive groove if you defend too long, and England did that after an early goal. When they conceded, they simply could not jump into an offensive rhythm again.
Harry Kane had to drop dip into their midfield yesterday and setup Sterling to launch counter attacks Sterling switched between two sides to create space I believed that was their game plan thus depriving Kane the opportunity to play as a standing nine that will limit his short on target, however the Italian defence were up the task while their midfielders also took most if the ball possessions while England defended in almost the entire duration of the match trying every possible means to defend their early goal unfortunately their game plan backfired.

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July 12, 2021, 01:50:25 PM
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Harry Kane had to drop dip into their midfield yesterday and setup Sterling to launch counter attacks Sterling switched between two sides to create space I believed that was their game plan thus depriving Kane the opportunity to play as a standing nine that will limit his short on target, however the Italian defence were up the task while their midfielders also took most if the ball possessions while England defended in almost the entire duration of the match trying every possible means to defend their early goal unfortunately their game plan backfired.

Yup, that was the plan before Italy scored. After the goal for 1-1 England went with 433 instead 343 (Trippier out for Saka) and I expected Kane to be that focal point again. England had 25 minutes in regular time and 30 in extra time to threaten again, which they failed to do.

Seeing the players that came off the bench, I can't help myself but to blame England that they did not push more for the win in regular time. The individual quality of the players in ET was by far on the english side but that was not really seen on the pitch.

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July 12, 2021, 02:18:22 PM
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England has a very good early goal and they can use it to beat Italy by creating pressure and score a second goal. They chose to do differently, turn to be very seriously defensive. I feel they did not want to attack after having one goal. Maybe they worried that if they attack or counter attack, Italy can score and equalize the result.

England, in the other words, don't deserve to be called as champions because they sacrifice their home stadium advantage very easily. Italy have the DNA of Champions and they equalized the match. After the equalizer, Italy even had some opportunities to beat England in 90 minutes then 120 minutes.

So Thats The Problem Of England, As I Stated Before, They Choose To Be Defensive After an Early Goal. They Can Make second and third goal If They Keep Their Attack Scheme.

I also think that England has made the wrong decision. They thought if they do full defense then they would be able to win the final match. But this decision made Italy, even more, dominating the game. If England continues to play as usual (like against Denmark), then Italy would not be that easy to win the ball possession. So that England's chances of winning (without the extra time and penalty shootouts) will be even better.


I agree with this opinion, even if you as a team score in the 2nd minute, you should not play from this goal to keep the result and try to get around the 90 minutes.

Through this aspect, Italy is for me also the deserved European champion. But England will have another chance to win a title next year.

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July 12, 2021, 02:21:01 PM
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Harry Kane had to drop dip into their midfield yesterday and setup Sterling to launch counter attacks Sterling switched between two sides to create space I believed that was their game plan thus depriving Kane the opportunity to play as a standing nine that will limit his short on target, however the Italian defence were up the task while their midfielders also took most if the ball possessions while England defended in almost the entire duration of the match trying every possible means to defend their early goal unfortunately their game plan backfired.
That plan from Southgate only works in the first 10 to 15 minutes of the first half. After that, Italy control the match but they can not attack well till the last 10 minutes of that first half.

The second half is different when Italy dominates it since beginning and they even can score a decisive goal after the equalizer from Bonucci.

Yup, that was the plan before Italy scored. After the goal for 1-1 England went with 433 instead 343 (Trippier out for Saka) and I expected Kane to be that focal point again. England had 25 minutes in regular time and 30 in extra time to threaten again, which they failed to do.

Seeing the players that came off the bench, I can't help myself but to blame England that they did not push more for the win in regular time. The individual quality of the players in ET was by far on the english side but that was not really seen on the pitch.
It is what Kane played in Spurs in the last season and he does it too well in Spurs as well as in the final match. Just his team mates and Southgate don't have enough bravery to play more offensive against Italy.

In the extra time, England should use their younger players to beat Italy but Southgate again only try to wait from player moments. He does not want to change from substitutions. Grealish, Sancho or even Rashford can do better if Southgate gives them more time to show.

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July 12, 2021, 02:30:47 PM
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Yep, it was a mistake to give so much space to the Italians. I read somewhere that Kane didn't have a single touch on the ball in the Italy's box and that he failed to have a shot on goal only the 2nd time in his international career.

It was not just Kane though, all England's attacking players had a really bad game yesterday. Sometimes it's hard to get back into the offensive groove if you defend too long, and England did that after an early goal. When they conceded, they simply could not jump into an offensive rhythm again.
I blame Southgate for that. You have guys like Rashford and Sancho on the bench. You can give them at least 2nd extra time to stretch the legs for sure. I was waiting for them to come on and rain hell on tired Italy defense but never happened. If nothing else I am sure they would have had more belief when taking penalties. There is nothing worse in football then taking penalty after not playing, at least for me, and my games did not have much of a stress factor.

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July 12, 2021, 02:35:24 PM
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Would Italy have won against Denmark? I think it would have been more difficult against Denmark than against England. Denmark would certainly have shot more on goal than England did yesterday.  Wink

LOL... dude, are you high? Denmark was without a doubt the weakest team in the semi-finals. And I know that Italy would have been happy, if they had Denmark as the opponent instead of Spain. And you are conveniently forgetting one important aspect. The match took place in front of tens of thousands of British hooligans at the Wembley. That gave another advantage for the England team. England didn't managed to have too many shots on target, because the Italian defense was super-strong. Denmark would have performed even worse.
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July 12, 2021, 02:37:05 PM
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Sad for Kane, and sad for the rest of the England boys (literally, actually,,, the ones who missed the penalties were almost all boys especially Saka) I just hope this loss for them does not affect them into the season. It was not their fault, we all know penalties are lottery tickets and anyone can win and lose just by doing something different.

Hats off to the Italians and Mancini vindication.
Some people don't actually understand that. They keep blaming Saka and the rest who missed the penalty kicks for making England lose the Euro 2020 trophy.
The match was a tough one between the two countries. When the first half ended with England leading, I Initially though the game was a winning for England. However, a big congratulations to Italy.



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July 12, 2021, 02:42:47 PM
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I blame Southgate for that. You have guys like Rashford and Sancho on the bench. You can give them at least 2nd extra time to stretch the legs for sure. I was waiting for them to come on and rain hell on tired Italy defense but never happened. If nothing else I am sure they would have had more belief when taking penalties. There is nothing worse in football then taking penalty after not playing, at least for me, and my games did not have much of a stress factor.
If you are let out on the field for a penalty kick, this is also a certain belief in the player, but I still agree that without playing time on the field it will be demotivate.

As for the final, I was right, the Italian national team became the champion. and when it came to the penalty shoot-outs, I had no doubts who would be the winner in this final, because Donaruma, although very young, but is a very talented goalkeeper with excellent physical characteristics. Congratulations to Italy on the title !!!

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I doubt if England was playing to win the Euro 2020 tournament because their performance all through the game wasn't encouraging at all. Kudos to Italy although their equalizing goal was well deserving

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July 12, 2021, 03:14:59 PM
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I felt the coach of England Gareth Southgate made a strange decision when they played against Italy yesterday, England have a great start when they managed to score an early goal against Italy, but I wonder why did England choose to play the match against Italy in defensive mode after scoring an early goal instead of balancing their attacks and defense for the rest of the match.

And since the focus of England are only on their defense, it allows the players of Italy to control the game tempo and keep on launching attacks in search of the equalizer goal and they finally get their reward when they scored the equalizer goal and thus the game would have to go into extra time and penalty shootout. I just wonder if England were to play more aggressively in attacking after scoring an early goal, and with Harry Kane leading the frontline, maybe the final outcome of the match would be different.

defense is never an option, you risk so much in defense mode
the better defense is be aggressive and spend a lot of energy
have good ball control (like spain) and dont have fear to play

england yestarday have fear of italy, do a goal and close himself in defense mode

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italy merit the cup of championship europe because when looking to the history of results of all matches between italy and england , it seem italy better than england much , i hope italy will win any match vs italy always in the future like the historical match of yesterday
The match ended with draw, winning the cup is what matters congatulation again for italy , and good luck for italy in other tournaments world cup the match by september
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July 12, 2021, 03:21:40 PM
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After I saw what England fans were doing after final, I'm even more happy that Italy won final. Their fans is one of main reasons why England get so much hate. These retards attacked Italy fans after final:
https://twitter.com/melvinnasasira/status/1414364972566601731?
Many idiots started posting racial slurs on Instagram profiles of players who missed penalties. Disgraceful.

And don't show this video to CR7 - Bonucci after final in press conference drinks both Coca Cola and Heineken  Grin Grin
https://twitter.com/goal/status/1414486664177754112

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July 12, 2021, 03:35:19 PM
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A star is born, Enjoy it.

It's coming to Rome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz5t9uSQAtc&t=7s

Chiesa and Spinazzola the 2 starts of this Cup besides Chiellini and Bonucci.

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