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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Winner: ITALY!  (Read 31320 times)
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July 12, 2021, 03:43:42 PM
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After I saw what England fans were doing after final, I'm even more happy that Italy won final. Their fans is one of main reasons why England get so much hate. These retards attacked Italy fans after final:
https://twitter.com/melvinnasasira/status/1414364972566601731?
Many idiots started posting racial slurs on Instagram profiles of players who missed penalties. Disgraceful.

And don't show this video to CR7 - Bonucci after final in press conference drinks both Coca Cola and Heineken  Grin Grin
https://twitter.com/goal/status/1414486664177754112

it's a pity that such bad scenes happened after the game. but english fans have always been so stupid.
i hope England don't win a final for the next 100 years. the best thing is to ban this team and this fans for a few years.

and thank you Gareth Southgate for selecting such great penalty takers  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin very good idea
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July 12, 2021, 03:52:21 PM
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Some people don't actually understand that. They keep blaming Saka and the rest who missed the penalty kicks for making England lose the Euro 2020 trophy.
The match was a tough one between the two countries. When the first half ended with England leading, I Initially though the game was a winning for England. However, a big congratulations to Italy.
If we are going to blame anyone I think this is on the coach, he basically got on the game two young men at the last minute of the game to try to score in the shootout and they both failed, we must remember that during those moments not everything is about the skill of the players, it is also about whether or not they have the mental maturity to endure the fact that the fate of the entire competition is at their feet, that probably billions of dollars will change hands and that they will be remembered as heroes or villains depending on their success or failure , so I think they were given too much pressure and they could not handle it, something that their coach must have known.

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July 12, 2021, 03:52:56 PM
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I was shocked to have seen Saka step up for the shootout. Naturally, I had predicted persons like Harry kane, Raheem Sterling, Marcus Rashford, L. Shaw and someonther person, an older player to be the once taking the shoots but to my amazement, a lot of young stars, over rated players where the once stepping up. Worst of all was, letting Saka take the final shoot. Such an important shoot for such a young player. I don't just get what was the plan or what was G. Southgate was thinking, gambling it perhaps and I guess his gamble didn't work. That's to say, they never meant business like Italy did and that's why, they had to win.

It was for me as well a surprise that Southgate chooses Saka for taking the last penalty. Too much pressure for the youngster and IMO, without any reason. There are other players that can take it, I couldn't agree more with you.
England has the upper hand in the first half but they failed to score another goal. The second half shows the mentality of Italy, a team with the metal and the spirit of a winner. Score the goal that they wanted, keep the pressure in the extra time and Donarumma makes two "easy" for his class saves and send the trophy to Rome.
Big congrats to Italy, they truly deserve it, and not to mention that they are still undefeated. Cool

P.S: Jorginho's penalty was a total disappointment... Sad

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July 12, 2021, 04:03:47 PM
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I think England's defense line wasn't coordinating well. There were quite some chances for Italy in second half and you know Pickford is always demanding from his defenders but there is one Harry Maguire who isn't very much quick to react. Anyway England did well to come this far but at last didn't made it but hell yeah feel so cool about Bonucci and Chiellini finally getting the Trophy.
Yeb you are right they wasnt coordinating good and they maked a few misstakes , after Italy scored the Goal i have known that they will win the Game.
I guess Bonucci and Chiellini was maybe there last tournament and its a great present for them that they won with it the Title.

They keep blaming Saka and the rest who missed the penalty kicks for making England lose the Euro 2020 trophy.
For sure they will be doing that , and i guess Gareth Southgate will be also getting his feedback even he formed a great Team in the last years.

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July 12, 2021, 04:11:32 PM
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I doubt if England was playing to win the Euro 2020 tournament because their performance all through the game wasn't encouraging at all. Kudos to Italy although their equalizing goal was well deserving

This is silly. England did score after 2 minutes, you know. Often - and almost always in major finals - if a team takes the lead against a strong opponent, they then sit back and defend, and try to catch the opponent on the break to score a second. This is simply sound tactics. The reason Italy dominated possession so much is because they needed to score, whereas England, having already scored, didn't. Once the score was 1-1, England started to attack again.






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July 12, 2021, 04:32:05 PM
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Unfortunately England did not live up to my hopes. After the Italy goal, the team got scared and eventually lost. Too much pressure on the players and it broke them. The England coach's mistakes with the choice of players to shoot the penalty will be debated for a long time, but England has a chance to prove themselves in the next championships. They have a young and capable team.
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July 12, 2021, 04:33:19 PM
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I blame Southgate for that. You have guys like Rashford and Sancho on the bench. You can give them at least 2nd extra time to stretch the legs for sure.

Exactly, Southgate could have subbed them in for atleast the last 5 minutes. Let them warm up on the pitch for few minutes instead of asking them to take the penalty after being subbed in. Those two are considered as top class players, they could have done a thing or two instead of just being a penalty takers then ended up failing to score.

Anyway Manchester United did the same thing on Europa League by subbing in Mata and Telles on the last minutes, both ended up as the 1st and 2nd penalty taker but it worked out for both of them

It was for me as well a surprise that Southgate chooses Saka for taking the last penalty. Too much pressure for the youngster and IMO, without any reason. There are other players that can take it, I couldn't agree more with you.

There is no way to tell that it was going to be the last penalty though. The order was decided before both Rashford and Sancho failed so it puts up alot more pressure for Saka but if you look at the other POV, Donnarumma was the reason that Saka failed. This guy is a genius when it comes to penalty, just look at his reaction after he stopped that penalty. It was like he knew that he would stop the last penalty

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July 12, 2021, 04:46:44 PM
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After I saw what England fans were doing after final, I'm even more happy that Italy won final. Their fans is one of main reasons why England get so much hate. These retards attacked Italy fans after final:
https://twitter.com/melvinnasasira/status/1414364972566601731?
Many idiots started posting racial slurs on Instagram profiles of players who missed penalties. Disgraceful.

I don't think the video shows what you are trying to say. As far as I have seen from other sources, it was about the people who tried to get into the stadium without tickets. The scene happened before kickoff, so it has nothing to do with disappointed England fans.
One should always be very skeptical of such videos if one does not know exactly from which source they come.
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July 12, 2021, 04:47:17 PM
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Massive congrats for Italy as they really fought hard to get this trophy and lets not forget that they've played most of their games on away pitch. I also have all my respect for England squad as they were my favorites and I don't blame anyone for the loss but some players should've stepped in front of the young players and take that penalty kick.

Now , a little nostalgia after this tournament it's over but UCL and Uefa qualifiers are happening soon.

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July 12, 2021, 05:07:00 PM
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July 12, 2021, 05:18:58 PM
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After I saw what England fans were doing after final, I'm even more happy that Italy won final. Their fans is one of main reasons why England get so much hate. These retards attacked Italy fans after final:
https://twitter.com/melvinnasasira/status/1414364972566601731?
Many idiots started posting racial slurs on Instagram profiles of players who missed penalties. Disgraceful.
Their fans and hooligans have bad reputation. I don't know how it happens because Italy is a more complicated nation but even ultra groups in Italy usually don't bring violent troubles like England hooligans.

They should appreciate what England players did in the tournament. Players run and fight and fans only watch, enjoy matches.

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And don't show this video to CR7 - Bonucci after final in press conference drinks both Coca Cola and Heineken  Grin Grin
https://twitter.com/goal/status/1414486664177754112
He is over happy. Ronaldo will not like this conference and the drink Bounnuci took.

In the press conference I see Mancini laughed a lot and he was very happy. His reaction is unbelievable when Bonucci was receiving the question from an interviewer about what Bonucci said "It's coming to Rome" in front of camera.

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July 12, 2021, 05:19:44 PM
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Massive congrats for Italy as they really fought hard to get this trophy and lets not forget that they've played most of their games on away pitch. I also have all my respect for England squad as they were my favorites and I don't blame anyone for the loss but some players should've stepped in front of the young players and take that penalty kick.
Unlike the case with most England fanatics fans because they will continue to blame players who fail to maximize the opportunities that have been given by the coach to take a penalty kick. Marcus Rashford, Saka, Sancho seem to be specially groomed by the coach to take the penalty kicks but I think Sterling and Shaw are much better than the last two names. Italy really did their job to perfection after a few games that almost brought him home. Not much different against Spain, the penalty became the deciding factor for Italy to win.

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July 12, 2021, 05:21:30 PM
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Yep, it was a mistake to give so much space to the Italians. I read somewhere that Kane didn't have a single touch on the ball in the Italy's box and that he failed to have a shot on goal only the 2nd time in his international career.

It was not just Kane though, all England's attacking players had a really bad game yesterday. Sometimes it's hard to get back into the offensive groove if you defend too long, and England did that after an early goal. When they conceded, they simply could not jump into an offensive rhythm again.
I blame Southgate for that. You have guys like Rashford and Sancho on the bench. You can give them at least 2nd extra time to stretch the legs for sure. I was waiting for them to come on and rain hell on tired Italy defense but never happened. If nothing else I am sure they would have had more belief when taking penalties. There is nothing worse in football then taking penalty after not playing, at least for me, and my games did not have much of a stress factor.

Yup..  We exactly have the same thoughts.  But to Southgate’s credit, he did say in one interview that it was on him.  But still, the damage is done.  Poor Saka.  I feel for him the most.  He’s too young to be placed in a tough spot like that.

Anyway been hearing some news swirling around of racial abuse cos those poor guys missed their pens.  That’s just sad.

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July 12, 2021, 05:24:55 PM
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Ronaldo was recognized as the top scorer of the tournament and this was quite expected, Schick was in second place and he lost only in additional indicators.
I was very surprised that the Italian goalkeeper was recognized as the best player of the tournament, undoubtedly he showed great games, but traditionally the title of the best player in the tournament going to the player of the team that took the second place.

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July 12, 2021, 05:30:39 PM
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Yup..  We exactly have the same thoughts.  But to Southgate’s credit, he did say in one interview that it was on him.  But still, the damage is done.  Poor Saka.  I feel for him the most.  He’s too young to be placed in a tough spot like that.

Anyway been hearing some news swirling around of racial abuse cos those poor guys missed their pens.  That’s just sad.
The first and last shots in first five rounds in penalty are most pressure so it is unbelievable how the whole England team decided to give it to Saka.

Even an expert in penalty like Jorginho felt pressure and changed his technique and failed in his shot. Saka is a victim of some reasons I don't know. When England prepared for penalty, I see Grealish looks to be very confident and I guess he would have one round in first five shoot-outs.

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July 12, 2021, 05:47:49 PM
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Yup..  We exactly have the same thoughts.  But to Southgate’s credit, he did say in one interview that it was on him.  But still, the damage is done.  Poor Saka.  I feel for him the most.  He’s too young to be placed in a tough spot like that.

Anyway been hearing some news swirling around of racial abuse cos those poor guys missed their pens.  That’s just sad.
The first and last shots in first five rounds in penalty are most pressure so it is unbelievable how the whole England team decided to give it to Saka.

Even an expert in penalty like Jorginho felt pressure and changed his technique and failed in his shot. Saka is a victim of some reasons I don't know. When England prepared for penalty, I see Grealish looks to be very confident and I guess he would have one round in first five shoot-outs.

I have to say it was a mistake from Southgate. He sent Rashford and Sancho in the last minute of the extra time just for the Penalty Shoot-outs but both failed to do their job well. The idea is good to get fresh players to take penalty but some time the spirit is not warmed up enough to give the best shoot for the team.

I do not really understand too why Southgate did not use Grealish from the start or at least from the 2nd half. He was able to do something great to break the Italy's defense after he came in. In overall, most of England players were not on their best performance including Kane and Sterling. It seems that they were on a very hard pressure to win the game because their fans are so hungry to see England win a Major title.
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July 12, 2021, 05:58:21 PM
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Ronaldo was recognized as the top scorer of the tournament and this was quite expected, Schick was in second place and he lost only in additional indicators.
I was very surprised that the Italian goalkeeper was recognized as the best player of the tournament, undoubtedly he showed great games, but traditionally the title of the best player in the tournament going to the player of the team that took the second place.

I saw Ronaldo's ambition from the start that he deserved it despite failing to take his country to the final, while the Italian goalkeeper is a very important player for Italy
the main factor is he becomes a savior in a critical situation because his brilliant performance can bring Italy to the title, some of Italy's victories were decided on penalties.

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July 12, 2021, 06:02:26 PM
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Ronaldo was recognized as the top scorer of the tournament and this was quite expected, Schick was in second place and he lost only in additional indicators.
I was very surprised that the Italian goalkeeper was recognized as the best player of the tournament, undoubtedly he showed great games, but traditionally the title of the best player in the tournament going to the player of the team that took the second place.
Gianluigi Donnarumma is a great player and very easy going with a pretty good build for a goalkeeper so I think he deserves to be the best player in the tournament, having made a lot of saves against Italy to win the EURO 2020 champions.

Now he has been the target of a lot of top clubs last saw the news PSG wanted to think about him and I don't know about his certainty yet it's great.

Italy have been a great team in the final after falling by 1 goal and in the end it was avenged, the point is it was a dramatic match with a final.

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July 12, 2021, 06:06:35 PM
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Ronaldo was recognized as the top scorer of the tournament and this was quite expected, Schick was in second place and he lost only in additional indicators.
I was very surprised that the Italian goalkeeper was recognized as the best player of the tournament, undoubtedly he showed great games, but traditionally the title of the best player in the tournament going to the player of the team that took the second place.
Ouep but he deserved to be the best player of the tournament because he is Wink
When they said his name, he wasn't expecting it and his teammate informed him they said your name.
Now after the end of the EURO and Copa America, I feel emptiness. There is few CL qualifications games coming, otherwise waiting for the next month for the restart of major leagues...

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Poor Saka.  I feel for him the most.  He’s too young to be placed in a tough spot like that.

Anyway been hearing some news swirling around of racial abuse cos those poor guys missed their pens.  That’s just sad.
I share your sentiment for Saka, sometimes it is best to give penalties to guys who will not overthink it or they simply don't care. I always remember Balotelli in situations like this. You can just see on him that he doesn't care and that is why pressure is not a big factor for him.

Not even gonna comment those idiots that resorted to racial abuse. They should make a party for the team that is second in the Europe and celebrate them and instead they resort to abuse. That is why most of the world was on Italy side last night. Nobody is a fan of that "English arrogance", there are plenty of teams with better results in competitions and none of them think they are top of the world like English guys.

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