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July 13, 2021, 07:38:55 PM
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It was terribly unpleasant for me when almost all the players of the English team together and demonstratively removed the silver medals of the championship from their necks.  This was a clear disregard for the competition itself.  I understand their offense, but the game is the game, and the silver award is also very honorable.  
.... Therefore, perhaps with this gesture, the British simply emphasized the depth of their failure. By the way, the loss was also overshadowed by the attacks of the fans, who focused on the fact that only black players - "Rashford, Saka and Sancho" - did not realize their strikes.
Of course it's a shame to lose such a decisive match.  Moreover, on penalties and not in playing or extra time.  But the silver medal of the championship is a very respected and honorable award.  And such a demonstrative and defiant attitude towards her disappointed I think many fans and the British and Italians themselves.  And in general, everyone who watched the match.  It is not known which of the players or managers came up with this gesture, but I would have fired him for such disrespect for the honorary award.

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July 13, 2021, 08:02:00 PM
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And because football lives on goals, and this Euro 2020 had enough, the opportunity for fans to vote on the ones they liked the most arrived.

UEFA lists the competition's top 10 goals and everyone can vote.

Review the goals and vote here: https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/video/goal-of-the-tournament/

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July 13, 2021, 09:20:06 PM
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It was terribly unpleasant for me when almost all the players of the English team together and demonstratively removed the silver medals of the championship from their necks.  This was a clear disregard for the competition itself.  I understand their offense, but the game is the game, and the silver award is also very honorable. 
I am then very disappointed in the England players. 

This is typical English team (as well as their people in common). I can't say that I'm disappointed, because i was expecting something like this to happen.

But as i saw one picture from italian fan: "Pasta lavista, baby"   Grin

This is good that Italy has won!

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July 13, 2021, 09:31:40 PM
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Actually there were no doubts that Italy was going to win the euro 2020 after beating my prefer team Belgium, it was obvious, although as always a team like Italy is always full of drama, this team plays differently, rescuing the lost slogan the azure claw, this drives it as A strong candidate to win Qatar 2022, perhaps a final Italy Vs Belgium can be seen in the next soccer world cup.  Smiley

How many millions of dollars have you won from bookmakers knowing this information?  Wink
I think, even being completely confident, you did not make bets, since sensations and real knowledge of the future are two different things. In fact, there could have been any result in this final.

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July 13, 2021, 09:52:31 PM
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Plus, it would be very cool to watch these two of the best teams of their continent to fight it out between each other, that would be just insane to watch.
The FIFA confederations cup should give us a glimpse of this as all champions from the different continents would get to play against each other.
I heard some news about FIFA planning to cancel the tournament and replace it with another, not sure if that plan has been put in motion yet.

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July 13, 2021, 10:45:49 PM
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England have been the underdog national team for the many games they have played for the Euro and the world cup. As long as I've been a football fan it's the first time I've seen England reach the final and yes they failed.
Me, too. And from this fact, England made a good achievement in EURO 2020. Rarely saw England in the final match, but in this tournament, they can reach the final stage. Yes they failed to win the trophy, but at least England can experience the final match in a EURO 2020. England players and the coach can take big learning from this tournament. This can be a strong motivation for the next competition, so actually it is not a too bad result for England.


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July 13, 2021, 10:59:23 PM
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You have to pick guys with nerves of steel or guys who don't care, everything else doesn't matter when you get to that final penalty kick.

Sometimes the defenders are probably the best penalty takers in this spot because those guy are the last line of defence and are pretty calm when it comes down to this stuff. Both Bonnuci and Harry Maguire nailed their penalty perfectly though and both are defenders.

It is not known which of the players or managers came up with this gesture, but I would have fired him for such disrespect for the honorary award.

Every team plays to win so it either they win the tournament or they lose, there is no such thing as being proud of becoming the runner up. It is not a sign of disrespect but it is a sign of frustation for not winning the tournament. Its fine and its not out of the line as long as they dont throw it away in some garbage bin on their way to their locker room

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July 13, 2021, 11:23:32 PM
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With the win of the Euro Cup, Italy reached rank 4 FIFA for clus.
IDk how Belgium can still be the number one since they never won anything in their lives and always lost earlier in big tournaments.

Maybe they need to change the formula for points...

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July 13, 2021, 11:26:04 PM
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England have been the underdog national team for the many games they have played for the Euro and the world cup. As long as I've been a football fan it's the first time I've seen England reach the final and yes they failed.
Me, too. And from this fact, England made a good achievement in EURO 2020. Rarely saw England in the final match, but in this tournament, they can reach the final stage. Yes they failed to win the trophy, but at least England can experience the final match in a EURO 2020. England players and the coach can take big learning from this tournament. This can be a strong motivation for the next competition, so actually it is not a too bad result for England.
Yes, England showed a wonderful result at EURO 2020, but of course it's always a shame to stop one step away from the title, especially if this title is historical. It was undoubtedly psychologically easier for Italy, because before that Italy had already won the European Championship once and had been in the finals relatively recently, I'm not talking about the World Championships. The England team can undoubtedly be proud that for the second major tournament in a row, the team finishes at the decisive stages of the tournaments and if the team continues in the same spirit, there will still be chances for the title. Just do not forget that only one wins the title and the element of luck can often be crucial.
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July 13, 2021, 11:31:20 PM
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Spain have good players, but that was the problem, they weren't playing as a team.

This is a valid point, and is often overlooked. Whilst having good players is important, it's not as important as how they fit together into a single unit.
It's worth also considering the opposite situation, with teams such as Denmark, where the individual players don't seem to be world-beaters, but they way they work together is impressive.

That is correct. As a team, you have to become a unit. Many teams need the first games in the group phase to find themselves. Then they grow together more and more. Germany is such an example. They are a typical tournament team.
Very correct,it is unity that brought Italy that far to the extent of winning the tournament.When all that's in a team are people who plays individual football,and not people who plays as a team,there is every tendency that the team will never attain their desired goal.Team work,unity and cooperation is what makes a team win any tittle.
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July 14, 2021, 12:50:43 AM
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And because football lives on goals, and this Euro 2020 had enough, the opportunity for fans to vote on the ones they liked the most arrived.

UEFA lists the competition's top 10 goals and everyone can vote.

Review the goals and vote here: https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/video/goal-of-the-tournament/
Those goals are great without exception but I find Pogba's one to be the best, followed by Damsgaard and Patrick Schick, so I voted for them.
BTW "Goal of the tournament" blue box popping just few seconds before goals is really annoying!

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July 14, 2021, 01:30:47 AM
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With the win of the Euro Cup, Italy reached rank 4 FIFA for clus.
Seems, FIFA website still didn't update, I saw Italy on the 7th number.

IDk how Belgium can still be the number one since they never won anything in their lives and always lost earlier in big tournaments.
That is a lot of critic about FIFA since 1992, because of that, the other statistician creates the alternative table and stat. such; https://www.eloratings.net/ and etc. Belgium still has the best points, just 12 different points from Brazil, while Italy as EURO champions in 3rd position adding 123 points for the champion.



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July 14, 2021, 03:10:22 AM
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With the win of the Euro Cup, Italy reached rank 4 FIFA for clus.
IDk how Belgium can still be the number one since they never won anything in their lives and always lost earlier in big tournaments.

Maybe they need to change the formula for points...

FIFA has changed the ranking criteria in the past, to make it more accurate. The one we have now was devised after a lot of research and analysis and I don't think that there is any issue in the way the points are calculated. Belgium remains at the top, because they have won matches regularly against other top ranking teams, with big margins. Before the defeat against Italy in Euro 2021, their last defeat came against England in October 2020. It was an unbeaten run for 9 months in a row. During this period, they defeated England (2-0), Denmark (4-2), and Portugal (1-0).

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July 14, 2021, 03:47:02 AM
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With the win of the Euro Cup, Italy reached rank 4 FIFA for clus.
IDk how Belgium can still be the number one since they never won anything in their lives and always lost earlier in big tournaments.

Maybe they need to change the formula for points...

FIFA has changed the ranking criteria in the past, to make it more accurate. The one we have now was devised after a lot of research and analysis and I don't think that there is any issue in the way the points are calculated. Belgium remains at the top, because they have won matches regularly against other top ranking teams, with big margins. Before the defeat against Italy in Euro 2021, their last defeat came against England in October 2020. It was an unbeaten run for 9 months in a row. During this period, they defeated England (2-0), Denmark (4-2), and Portugal (1-0).

@Sithara007 you’re absolutely correct as FIFA did change the ranking system in 2018, but yet I find it difficult to see Belgium on the top because unless they win a major tournament they don’t deserve to be on the top. Also I do acknowledge that they had a good winning streak, but if they keep failing in the tournaments then they’ll lose that spot very fast.
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With the win of the Euro Cup, Italy reached rank 4 FIFA for clus.
Seems, FIFA website still didn't update, I saw Italy on the 7th number.

IDk how Belgium can still be the number one since they never won anything in their lives and always lost earlier in big tournaments.
That is a lot of critic about FIFA since 1992, because of that, the other statistician creates the alternative table and stat. such; https://www.eloratings.net/ and etc. Belgium still has the best points, just 12 different points from Brazil, while Italy as EURO champions in 3rd position adding 123 points for the champion.




I think this has its explanation, not only in the general classification, but also in the club classification, in the coaches classification, that is due to the covid-19 pandemic, although it is a statistic that does not seem very difficult to execute, I think that the managers must take their time well for the correct records, in part I see this as an act of responsibility and professionalism, it is like having character and respect for football.



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July 14, 2021, 05:24:40 AM
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@Sithara007 you’re absolutely correct as FIFA did change the ranking system in 2018, but yet I find it difficult to see Belgium on the top because unless they win a major tournament they don’t deserve to be on the top. Also I do acknowledge that they had a good winning streak, but if they keep failing in the tournaments then they’ll lose that spot very fast.

As far as I know, the FIFA points system doesn't give special weightage to tournament finals. If Belgium is playing against Italy in the final of a major tournament like Euro 2020, that match will have the same amount of weightage as as a group match between these two sides. In a sense, that is the right thing to do. Why should a final match have more importance when compared to other matches? Personally, I feel that Belgium doesn't deserve a place at the top. I would say Argentina, Brazil or Italy deserves it more.
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And because football lives on goals, and this Euro 2020 had enough, the opportunity for fans to vote on the ones they liked the most arrived.

UEFA lists the competition's top 10 goals and everyone can vote.

Review the goals and vote here: https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/video/goal-of-the-tournament/


My favorite goal is Patrick Schick's goal against Scotland. A great shoot, scored from a great distance.  I'm so lucky to watch it live. Second was the goal scored by Andriy Yarmolenko, which I liked.

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July 14, 2021, 08:16:26 AM
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With the win of the Euro Cup, Italy reached rank 4 FIFA for clus.
Seems, FIFA website still didn't update, I saw Italy on the 7th number.

IDk how Belgium can still be the number one since they never won anything in their lives and always lost earlier in big tournaments.
That is a lot of critic about FIFA since 1992, because of that, the other statistician creates the alternative table and stat. such; https://www.eloratings.net/ and etc. Belgium still has the best points, just 12 different points from Brazil, while Italy as EURO champions in 3rd position adding 123 points for the champion.





this site said.. belgium vs brazil.. win belgium!?
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sorry if I'm skeptical, but it seems highly unlikely...

brazil is the strongest team in the world, currently I think it is the number 1 overall

for many reasons, number of people, people's passion for football, number of poor kids who want redemption

it is not constant in return, but I would not bet on Belgium

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brazil is the strongest team in the world, currently I think it is the number 1 overall

Why is Brazil the strongest?
He hasn't won tests for years. It ended up losing to Argentina. Being number 2 in the ranking does not mean that it is the best.

The current Brazil, I think it lost to any great European national team.

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July 14, 2021, 10:36:00 AM
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brazil is the strongest team in the world, currently I think it is the number 1 overall

Why is Brazil the strongest?
He hasn't won tests for years. It ended up losing to Argentina. Being number 2 in the ranking does not mean that it is the best.

The current Brazil, I think it lost to any great European national team.
Nah Brazil is better than Argentina, that defeat in the final game doesn't mean Argentina is the best team there. Argentina got hard moments advancing to the final game against way weaker team. In fact, current Argentina will not get a chance against any top European team. At the opposite Brazil will be hard to defeat by most. I would say Italy and France would be the ones that can compete Brazil.

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