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April 16, 2019, 03:55:02 PM |
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Some of the richest French people have already promised 600 millions Euros for the reconstruction.
Glad to hear this.I saw in google news that some people are linking this incident with 26/11 , is it correct?
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April 16, 2019, 04:04:53 PM |
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April 16, 2019, 04:07:56 PM |
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Some of the richest French people have already promised 600 millions Euros for the reconstruction.
Glad to hear this.I saw in google news that some people are linking this incident with 26/11 , is it correct? Naah, they haven't even started the investigation yet. There is still a risk of the Cathedral falling down completely. It will take 48 hours to make sure it's safe then they will start an inventory of the place and only after that, the police will investigate.
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April 16, 2019, 04:31:31 PM |
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I wouldn't call this a tragedy, at the end of the day this is just a building and no humans were injured. This thing was all over the news when much more serious issues are happening. This is a loss for the art world but lets keep our priorities straight.
You'll think what you want, I'm not here to start a debate but here is a tweet I liked : https://twitter.com/opourriol/status/1118124953772199936Victor Hugo remercie tous les généreux donateurs prêts à sauver Notre-Dame de Paris et leur propose de faire la même chose avec Les Misérables. >>> Victor Hugo wants to thank all the generous donators who are willing to save Notre-Dame de Paris and asks them to do the same with the "Miserables". Makes you think...
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April 16, 2019, 06:12:27 PM |
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April 16, 2019, 06:16:10 PM |
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Very sad news but we shouldn't forget that church is not just building but also people, believers. Today I watched news about it and sew something what inspired me a lot. Many people around Notre Dame praying and signing holy songs. It's great to see that they didn't loose faith and could find hope after such tragedy. If more people, in such way, find faith and God, this tragedy will bring something good also.
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April 16, 2019, 07:16:23 PM |
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Architecture could be repaired.
But much of the artwork can't. I'm getting very suspicious of all these events and disasters. Now we know that the electrical failure in Venezuela was caused by Washington, and it's suspicious that many flooding and other "natural" disasters seem to occur in countries that Washington wants to invade or force a regime change. The military elite have already announced that they are able to use flooding, high winds and drought as weapons of war. I just hope that it really was an accident, and that it wasn't Macron trying another fake trick to demonise the Gilet Jaune. totally agree, it's hard to believe something as a"natural" cause or accident in times like these. I'm not sure what i should think about this disaster but it's horrible and sad for me to see.
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April 16, 2019, 07:20:50 PM |
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I hope the hunchback is fine ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) But seriously that's a sad thing to see such an old and beautiful building in flames, i hope that they'll be able to restore the damage done.
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April 16, 2019, 07:58:31 PM |
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Still, as the number of vandalism and started fire of French churches only grew these last years, suspicion of a criminal burning can't be completely discarded.
And has anyone ever been arrested for previous vandalism? People have been joking the government would blame this on Quasimodo. We almost never see these mentioned in the news, I don't even know church burnings is a thing in France now. If it wasn't Notre Dame, we probably wouldn't even hear about this. I somehow agree with you but this one is heard here in my place almost several times in a day but there are a lot of religious persecutions happening in different part of the world like China, India, Nigeria and more but then they are not airing them in the news or broadcasting in media. Sad that killing people is so easy for them just because these people believe in God.
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April 16, 2019, 11:21:02 PM |
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Architecture could be repaired.
But much of the artwork can't. According to reports, most of the paintings and relics were saved while some artwork was damaged by smoke or water. In case anyone wants to know, here's a list of what was recovered: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/16/notre-dame-fire-fears-over-fate-of-cathedrals-treasuresNow we know that the electrical failure in Venezuela was caused by Washington
Off topic but, got a source for that? As far as i know, the blackouts were caused by problems in their main hydroelectric power station called Guri due to lack of maintenance over the past decade or so. i hope that they'll be able to restore the damage done.
No worries, they can rebuilt what was lost, question is how long is it gonna take?
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April 17, 2019, 12:25:08 AM |
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It seems to be not so uncommon for fires to engulf famous museums and landmarks. Not long ago a fire erupted in a Brazilian museum destroying prehistoric and historic artifacts. It seems nations need to invest a lot more in fireproofing and securing their landmarks to prevent or mitigate disaster.
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April 17, 2019, 01:32:42 AM |
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Problem is that they never catch anyone. The vandals aren't protected or whatever like some conspiracists like to say, but churches are by nature open buildings where anyone can enter. And in lots of places at any hour. It makes it easy to destroy them. Yeah. I wonder if other places of worship are as open as churches. They should have at least CCTVs and security guards there, considering status of church being a World Heritage Site.
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April 17, 2019, 01:58:33 AM |
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I think the building will be restored.The main thing is that there were no human victims in the fire.There will still be an investigation into the cause of the accident,but I think the perpetrators will be very difficult to find.
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April 17, 2019, 02:36:44 AM |
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I'm sure they'll fix it. I read an article that one prominent family is donating 100m euros for the restoration of the cathedral. Don't have anything against that, and i the notredame cathedral is a highly valuable work of architechture, but imagine if people are also this passionate in dealing with children going hungry in the poorest parts of the world. Just saying.
Send some of YOUR money helping the children while others save their cathedral. It's a big world with plenty of simultaneous options... People are still suffering in Haiti. You could start there. Well good sir, i have donated as much as i could spare since i stated earning money. I don't have anything against spending millions to restore a cathedral. It is an essential part of paris' history. I'm just saying that it would be nice if we could make as much noise for real people who are suffering around the world.
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April 17, 2019, 05:58:05 AM |
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Some of the richest French people have already promised 600 millions Euros for the reconstruction.
Glad to hear this.I saw in google news that some people are linking this incident with 26/11 , is it correct? do you want to say that muslim workers layed that fire in order to destroy that church?
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April 17, 2019, 06:09:54 AM |
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As a Catholic this is a sad news, but the People is the Church right? As long as people continue to attend the Regular Mass, then the Church is just the same as before.
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April 17, 2019, 06:36:41 AM |
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This entire event has supported the idea that our society values materials more than the lives of poor black and brown people around the world. France has so many wrongs to right around the world yet they are completely tone-deaf to the loss of a single building. It takes a complete naiveness towards one's privilege to use words like "devastated" and "tragedy" to describe the loss of the roof to a church you went inside one time on vacation. Sickening. Also, the heretical Catholic Church is a huge scam. If they were actually a Christian Church, they would have auctioned off most of that art for helping the poor long ago. Now they are taking donations instead of rebuilding with their own immense wealth. They could solve world hunger if they wanted, but choose not to. Shame on all parties. Matthew 19:21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
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April 17, 2019, 06:51:10 AM |
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This entire event has supported the idea that our society values materials more than the lives of poor black and brown people around the world. France has so many wrongs to right around the world yet they are completely tone-deaf to the loss of a single building. It takes a complete naiveness towards one's privilege to use words like "devastated" and "tragedy" to describe the loss of the roof to a church you went inside one time on vacation. Sickening. Also, the heretical Catholic Church is a huge scam. If they were actually a Christian Church, they would have auctioned off most of that art for helping the poor long ago. Now they are taking donations instead of rebuilding with their own immense wealth. They could solve world hunger if they wanted, but choose not to. Shame on all parties. Matthew 19:21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” Yes, I am sure you would be saying exactly the same thing if it was a mosque that was suspected burned by arson. You are always so woke when it works for your political views, then blind the rest of the time.
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