Notre Dame destroyed by fire

[mOgliE]

This entire event has supported the idea that our society values materials more than the lives of poor black and brown people around the world.  France has so many wrongs to right around the world yet they are completely tone-deaf to the loss of a single building.  It takes a complete naiveness towards one's privilege to use words like "devastated" and "tragedy" to describe the loss of the roof to a church you went inside one time on vacation.  Sickening.

Wtf?

Also, the heretical Catholic Church is a huge scam.  If they were actually a Christian Church, they would have auctioned off most of that art for helping the poor long ago.  Now they are taking donations instead of rebuilding with their own immense wealth.  They could solve world hunger if they wanted, but choose not to.   Shame on all parties. 

Matthew 19:21
Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

And what's the link?

What the hell dude?? Losing a building that is just the symbol of a country and its history IS a tragedy. Much more than the death of a few hundred people, being brown, yellow, white or blue.

Why the fuck Church being a scam makes the loss of Notre Dame ok? WTF is the link between French "wrongs" whatever they may be, and the catastrophe of having such symbol taken down by fire?
What's next? "oh whole Paris was destroyed by fire, but let's be realistic 1 million people die worldwide by lack of water so crying on something like this is sickening"??

[brunog]

You can also donate with Bitcoin:  https://www.help-notre-dame.com

[TECSHARE]

This entire event has supported the idea that our society values materials more than the lives of poor black and brown people around the world.  France has so many wrongs to right around the world yet they are completely tone-deaf to the loss of a single building.  It takes a complete naiveness towards one's privilege to use words like "devastated" and "tragedy" to describe the loss of the roof to a church you went inside one time on vacation.  Sickening.

Wtf?

Also, the heretical Catholic Church is a huge scam.  If they were actually a Christian Church, they would have auctioned off most of that art for helping the poor long ago.  Now they are taking donations instead of rebuilding with their own immense wealth.  They could solve world hunger if they wanted, but choose not to.   Shame on all parties. 

Matthew 19:21
Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

And what's the link?

What the hell dude?? Losing a building that is just the symbol of a country and its history IS a tragedy. Much more than the death of a few hundred people, being brown, yellow, white or blue.

Why the fuck Church being a scam makes the loss of Notre Dame ok? WTF is the link between French "wrongs" whatever they may be, and the catastrophe of having such symbol taken down by fire?
What's next? "oh whole Paris was destroyed by fire, but let's be realistic 1 million people die worldwide by lack of water so crying on something like this is sickening"??

Are you starting to see what Communism is all about yet? This is what it is about. Casting false and excessive blame, hiding the real story, and virtue signalling to the world all to feed their narcissistic desires of projection. You might not like me or my ideas very much but I am not cheering great historical monuments in your nation burning. Communists love destroying history, it makes it easier to use the most reliable and simple tricks over and over again.

[dogtana]

That is not communism. It is just one missguided person trying to draw attention by not knowing what he is taking about. Communism is much worse than that and there is not much communism around anymore.

[TECSHARE]

That is not communism. It is just one missguided person trying to draw attention by not knowing what he is taking about. Communism is much worse than that and there is not much communism around anymore.

He is definitely one misguided person that doesn't know what he is talking about, but he is not the only one by far. There is plenty of Communism all around you, you just call it by another name not understanding the base principles it operates under. Using victim status to justify the victimization of others is in the DNA of Communism.

Interesting related article: https://www.rt.com/news/456728-notre-dame-assassins-creed-reconstruction/

[mOgliE]

Are you starting to see what Communism is all about yet? This is what it is about. Casting false and excessive blame, hiding the real story, and virtue signalling to the world all to feed their narcissistic desires of projection. You might not like me or my ideas very much but I am not cheering great historical monuments in your nation burning. Communists love destroying history, it makes it easier to use the most reliable and simple tricks over and over again.

"Communists love destroying history"

I don't like destroying history.
Does that make me not a communist?

Or does that mean that communism isn't "loving destroying history" but it's just a crazy person doing that?

[Woodie]

Notre Dame holds so much history and It was really sad watching it burn...

But there is good news too that came from today's news, they say it would take ~ 5years to restore

[KingScorpio]

That is not communism. It is just one missguided person trying to draw attention by not knowing what he is taking about. Communism is much worse than that and there is not much communism around anymore.

the biggest communists today are the usa and the EU.

future russian foreign information war will be accusing those as being communists claiming itself to be capitalist and turn the entire anti communism propaganda the western governments used against russians and educated their population against them.

it will be like a weapon that fires at the one that triggers it.

[TECSHARE]

Are you starting to see what Communism is all about yet? This is what it is about. Casting false and excessive blame, hiding the real story, and virtue signalling to the world all to feed their narcissistic desires of projection. You might not like me or my ideas very much but I am not cheering great historical monuments in your nation burning. Communists love destroying history, it makes it easier to use the most reliable and simple tricks over and over again.

"Communists love destroying history"

I don't like destroying history.
Does that make me not a communist?

Or does that mean that communism isn't "loving destroying history" but it's just a crazy person doing that?

I don't remember saying all people who call themselves Communists love destroying history. I did however say Communism relies on justifying victimizing others by claiming to be rectifying the wrong done to victim classes. If there is a historical record it makes it hard to keep using the same strategy over and over because people might see the pattern and learn from it.

Another interesting related article: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/772495/al-aqsa-mosque-fire-jerusalem-notre-dame-islam-muslims-jews-israel-palestine

[mOgliE]

I don't remember saying all people who call themselves Communists love destroying history. I did however say Communism relies on justifying victimizing others by claiming to be rectifying the wrong done to victim classes. If there is a historical record it makes it hard to keep using the same strategy over and over because people might see the pattern and learn from it.

Another interesting related article: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/772495/al-aqsa-mosque-fire-jerusalem-notre-dame-islam-muslims-jews-israel-palestine

You said "Communists love destroying history".
If that's not the same as saying "all communists love destroying history" then what does that mean?

[brunog]

https://images.cointelegraph.com/images/740_Ly9jb2ludGVsZWdyYXBoLmNvbS9zdG9yYWdlL3VwbG9hZHMvdmlldy8xNTMw.jpg

EDIT: Why does my image link is not showing up???

[TECSHARE]

I don't remember saying all people who call themselves Communists love destroying history. I did however say Communism relies on justifying victimizing others by claiming to be rectifying the wrong done to victim classes. If there is a historical record it makes it hard to keep using the same strategy over and over because people might see the pattern and learn from it.

Another interesting related article: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/772495/al-aqsa-mosque-fire-jerusalem-notre-dame-islam-muslims-jews-israel-palestine

You said "Communists love destroying history".
If that's not the same as saying "all communists love destroying history" then what does that mean?

It means what I said. That and you have poor reading comprehension and or are projecting.

[dogtana]

That is not communism. It is just one missguided person trying to draw attention by not knowing what he is taking about. Communism is much worse than that and there is not much communism around anymore.

He is definitely one misguided person that doesn't know what he is talking about, but he is not the only one by far. There is plenty of Communism all around you, you just call it by another name not understanding the base principles it operates under. Using victim status to justify the victimization of others is in the DNA of Communism.

Interesting related article: https://www.rt.com/news/456728-notre-dame-assassins-creed-reconstruction/

I am sorry, but I lived in communism so you are the one not understanding it. Yawn.

[poptok1]

Another interesting related article: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/772495/al-aqsa-mosque-fire-jerusalem-notre-dame-islam-muslims-jews-israel-palestine

Looks to me like a double diversion, redirection of public opinion but the questions is from what?
Your link would be my suspect nr1, those messiah prophecies won't realise by themself, right?
Second thing would be EU's voting for basically a destruction of free internet today.
Talk about killing two birds with one stone...

[LUCKMCFLY]

This is something very unfortunate, what I'm not sure is if they burned some important relics like the crown of thorns and the nails with which they nailed the arms of Jesus Christ that they used on the cross. I think that if it is a terrorist act at the time of the week for the Catholic religion is very heinous, I think that if that is the case, anyone who puts himself in the things of God, the Heavenly Father will not finish things well.

[kenzawak]

The Crown of Thorns is safe and no it's not a heinous crime... stop spreading shitty rumours, don't try to make it what it's absolutely not.  

[coins4commies]

This was not arson. Arson was ruled out pretty quickly.  This is not about economic ideology.

This entire event has supported the idea that our society values materials more than the lives of poor black and brown people around the world.  France has so many wrongs to right around the world yet they are completely tone-deaf to the loss of a single building.  It takes a complete naiveness towards one's privilege to use words like "devastated" and "tragedy" to describe the loss of the roof to a church you went inside one time on vacation.  Sickening.

Wtf?

Also, the heretical Catholic Church is a huge scam.  If they were actually a Christian Church, they would have auctioned off most of that art for helping the poor long ago.  Now they are taking donations instead of rebuilding with their own immense wealth.  They could solve world hunger if they wanted, but choose not to.   Shame on all parties.  

Matthew 19:21
Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

And what's the link?

What the hell dude?? Losing a building that is just the symbol of a country and its history IS a tragedy. Much more than the death of a few hundred people, being brown, yellow, white or blue.

Why the fuck Church being a scam makes the loss of Notre Dame ok? WTF is the link between French "wrongs" whatever they may be, and the catastrophe of having such symbol taken down by fire?
What's next? "oh whole Paris was destroyed by fire, but let's be realistic 1 million people die worldwide by lack of water so crying on something like this is sickening"??

The building was not lost, it was damaged.  It is only temporarily lost and was always going to be repaired.  It sucks but worse things happen everyday. I'm criticizing the lack of perspective and your exaggeration "loss of nd" is more evidence of that lack of perspective. I'm criticizing the worshipping of material by Christians.  I understand that the loss of a symbol is considered a national tragedy and that is my point.  Valuing a material symbol over the lives of hundreds of people is a disgusting choice and not a choice that even has to be made.  You could value both but choose to value the building over the people and that is where I lay criticism.  

No one said the loss of Notre Dame would be ok.  Its a cultural loss.  The connection is that it shows where your values and perspective are.  As a country, you are responsible for damage to so many people's Notre Dame's and hardly bat an eye. You are crying about a cracked phone in a metaphorical room with people who have lost loved ones, and everything dear to them.  Thats where its tone-deaf.  So many people have nothing and people who took everything are devastated about damage to one building.


I'm complaining because things like "UN issues appeal for 4.4 billion in emergency funds to deal with famine" happen and are hardly a story but when the wealthiest institution in the history of the world has one building catch fire, support and donations pour in from around the world.  This event is proof that society can pool their global attention onto an issue and collect resources to solve it within hours.  We could do both without communism.

Imagine a world where life on Earth is valued as a symbol for life on Earth.
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/notre-dame-case-misplaced-empathy-190416175229594.html

[yeosaga]

I'm sure everyone can agree that when we see something like this happen, some of us that like the history want to help. Trying to compare this to world hunger is not compatible. There are many people who do help with big problems like this. It takes a charitable person willing to go there to actually help, and that takes going out of your comfort level no matter where you come from. There is part of me that wants to be charitable, and I am, but for some this charity can be at the cost of something else. It could be a sudden health problem or maybe taxes are too much in your country. Everyone has problems and we should just try to help out as much as we are able to, but charity should never be forced, because then you are on the edge of slavery.

[hyunee]

You can also donate with Bitcoin:  https://www.help-notre-dame.com

Please don't use the church in your scamming actions. It's obvious that your account was just created in order to collect funds and to "compensate the destroyed church."

Also, the heretical Catholic Church is a huge scam.  If they were actually a Christian Church, they would have auctioned off most of that art for helping the poor long ago.  Now they are taking donations instead of rebuilding with their own immense wealth. 

I'm not protecting the church but I think that their money is not enough to restore the church. It takes millions I guess to do that.

[LTU_btc]

It was really sad to see what happened to Notre Dame cathedral. I think we need to put religion aside now. First of all it was just not a church. It was important of France and world history. 900 years of history. It survived France revolution, WW1, WW2 and other important periods of history. And offcourse, beautiful architecture of this building is must mention thing. And all art inside it, unfortunately part of it was destroyed by fire and water I'm not religious person, but I hate to see laughing reactions of muslims on social networks.
This cathedral will be rebuilt, but it wont be the same and unique anymore...