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October 25, 2023, 09:38:36 PM
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Whether we suggest that the rich people (institutions) are buying all of the bitcoin or if we might have some other reason(s) about why the BTC price is going up, historically, there have been several instances in which the BTC price moved upwardly out of an historical range that it had been, but then thereafter, never did return to that previous price range, and people who had been delaying in their buying of BTC, or waiting for lower BTC prices prior to buying, ended up looking foolish in retrospect.  So yeah, we have had right around 18 months to be buying BTC below $35k... so how much longer is it going to last?  We cannot be sure.  Are there going to be further dips below $30k?  We cannot be sure.

The position that the bitcoin price is heading to, is what many of us don't know whether it will keep rising above $33k or fall below $33k. Historically, the month of October always has bitcoin rise in price, which it finally did, after seeing it fluctuate around $27k - $28k for weeks.

The month of November will be in a week and we don't know what bitcoin price would be by then. But I believe that the price of bitcoin will fluctuate at a higher price of $35k - $38k in November

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October 25, 2023, 10:12:47 PM
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Sure there is a problem with people who sold on the way down, but that does not seem to be the crux of the main kinds of problems that are likely to afflict people who are fucking around with either selling too much bitcoin too soon as BTC prices are going up and even sometimes either failing to continue to DCA, stopping their DCA or cutting back on their DCA because they are trying to play UP and down waves that may well not end up taking place in such amounts that allow them to get a sufficient amount of advantage from those kinds of plays to make them worth their efforts when maybe they just need to continue accumulating BTC without trying to play the waves.
Maybe it's quite difficult to explain because those who sell Bitcoin at low prices definitely have problems in the investment they make, such as fear that the price will fall further and there is also no confidence for them to hold it for the long term. If we look at the period last year where the price of BTC fell quite significantly to the $15k price level. Of course we see many people selling their BTC at that time and of course we don't know the reason they sold BTC at such a low price.

However, we as holder, we think they made a mistake by selling at a low price because if they waited a little longer, maybe they could get a better profit from the decision they made. Apart from that, if they play in the waves, the risk they take may be greater if the plans they have made end in failure.

Yes.. a lot of people have this issue, and maybe they have to figure out some kind of a way to invest less and in an ongoing kind of way in order that they recognize and appreciate BTC price dips as opportunties to buy more rather than either lessening their position or stopping their DCA (or their regular buying) right during a time frame in which they should be attempting to remain consistent and persistent in their buys.

And similar things surely may well be happening currently, when guys start to think too much in terms of the dollars that they could get by selling now, and it is really hard to know if the BTC price isn't going to keep going up and make them regret their decision.. so it is difficult to hand-hold all of the people and each person has to kind of figure out these matters for themselves, and sometimes, we can see really seemingly smart people doing dumb things when it comes to their finances, and part of the reason is because they have never really been able to live with a kind of deferred gratification mentality that they can cause to last for years and years.

Whether we suggest that the rich people (institutions) are buying all of the bitcoin or if we might have some other reason(s) about why the BTC price is going up, historically, there have been several instances in which the BTC price moved upwardly out of an historical range that it had been, but then thereafter, never did return to that previous price range, and people who had been delaying in their buying of BTC, or waiting for lower BTC prices prior to buying, ended up looking foolish in retrospect.  So yeah, we have had right around 18 months to be buying BTC below $35k... so how much longer is it going to last?  We cannot be sure.  Are there going to be further dips below $30k?  We cannot be sure.
The position that the bitcoin price is heading to, is what many of us don't know whether it will keep rising above $33k or fall below $33k. Historically, the month of October always has bitcoin rise in price, which it finally did, after seeing it fluctuate around $27k - $28k for weeks.

The month of November will be in a week and we don't know what bitcoin price would be by then. But I believe that the price of bitcoin will fluctuate at a higher price of $35k - $38k in November

I doubt that the price dynamics of bitcoin gives too many fucks about what month it happens to be. .and yeah sometimes there are various macro-factor forces that are working on pushing bitcoin's prices during certain months, but there is a lot more going on in bitcoin besides trying to figure out what it may or may not do based on what month of the year we might be in.

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October 26, 2023, 12:04:24 AM
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If you are not sure about it, then start with buying $10 per week of bitcoin and get your shit together, figure out your finances and your psychology and if you got it mostly figured out
I know it is as too small to begin But this is me that you mentioned mate, Yeah I started purchasing 10 dollars worth of Bitcoin back in mid of 2017 , and added a increasing amount each week.

but with wrong decisions in life, I got involved in gambling and ending losing all my investments in 2018 and yes , I truly regret those decisions.
But from there of mistake ,Now I can proudly say that I can feel the success in the net bull run.



Nevertheless, I expect you will not to treat your Bitcoin investment with this mindset of gambling... trying to get rich quick with little effort. The lessons you learnt from your previous experience should guide you on the important of gradual growth rather than wanting it overnight. The DCA method is one sure way you can achieve this slow but steady growth in your Bitcoin accumulation.

Don't worry I am a New Person now and  Gambling is less my priority though still playing some time but just a little as i can afford to lose,  and thanks to my Wife that never leave me from my darkest days.

and also thanks to JJG for keep inspiring Bitcoin users/holders with unending advises and worth listening topics.

Hope he will not act like that lol.. 

but for me , as I keep reading most of your post and still learning more each day , thank you for being so active specially for Bitcoin .
He has been of so much help in the forum.Through him I have learnt the DCA method and other wonderful things including the power of small beginning. There is a saying that "if you following who know the road, you will never be lost"
Well , with His years of experience and Knowledge like what said , there is no hurt in trusting the people you know stands for everyone's benefits, and besides we have nothing to lose because in the end of the day Bitcoin is still our currency to hold.









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October 26, 2023, 03:20:43 AM
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One of the factors that affect most investors is always consistently watching the Bitcoin price movement, however in most cases no matter your intentions of holding watching the price all the time could affect your psychology or emotions that could make you to panic and if not careful it could lead you by selling of your accumulated Bitcoin.
You are right on this... checking price regularly is not a good habit. It could lead to taking unmeditated decision. Considering that Bitcoin is so volatile,  constant checking of the price can bring some form of psychological mirage that might actually damage one's plan.

For beginners who just started accumulating Bitcoin using the DCA strategy should be aware of Bitcoin price movement so that they will not be influence to start trading the market because with the potential of Bitcoin this few days price movement will be nothing compared to what is coming.
The DCA method does not really consider price as a factor because the focus is to buy predetermined amount at certain times. Even though the temptation is high, it is necessary we resist the urge to continually look at the price.

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Just let people sell their Bitcoins out of panic. They must regret that they sold Bitcoin too early and only panicked when they saw the price decrease. Now is a good time to continue the DCA strategy because Bitcoin is still not rising too high.

But you have to be careful because from now on, Bitcoin's journey will be more extreme. That will make many people panic again. So prepare yourself mentally for Bitcoin's next move.
One of the factors that affect most investors is always consistently watching the Bitcoin price movement, however in most cases no matter your intentions of holding watching the price all the time could affect your psychology or emotions that could make you to panic and if not careful it could lead you by selling of your accumulated Bitcoin.

For beginners who just started accumulating Bitcoin using the DCA strategy should be aware of Bitcoin price movement so that they will not be influence to start trading the market because with the potential of Bitcoin this few days price movement will be nothing compared to what is coming.

If Bitcoin is invested in the DCA method then no other concentration can ever be considered. Because you are depositing a small amount of weekly or monthly income to invest in DCA method. Because investing with DCA method you will never understand the market because even a small price increase will make you think to sell, and you may sell your assets due to greed. Investing in the DCA method is a long-term investment that will help you achieve success. Investing for a long time definitely does not face greed so DCA strategy method is the best.

So let's get started and keep on accumulating with our DCA strategy.

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October 26, 2023, 09:36:48 AM
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One of the factors that affect most investors is always consistently watching the Bitcoin price movement, however in most cases no matter your intentions of holding watching the price all the time could affect your psychology or emotions that could make you to panic and if not careful it could lead you by selling of your accumulated Bitcoin.

For beginners who just started accumulating Bitcoin using the DCA strategy should be aware of Bitcoin price movement so that they will not be influence to start trading the market because with the potential of Bitcoin this few days price movement will be nothing compared to what is coming.

So let's get started and keep on accumulating with our DCA strategy.
By staying focused on the DCA method, someone will not be too influenced by what is happening in the market. They still invest a certain amount of money every week or month and buy bitcoin, whatever the price on the market. And that's good for them because they don't panic and have no desire to sell their bitcoins. After all, their target is long term.

Beginners who invest in bitcoin using the DCA method do not need to observe the price of bitcoin and they are different from beginners who trade in the market. Those who trade must always observe and pay attention to prices in the market and then analyze them to get time to enter and exit the market.
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Sure there is a problem with people who sold on the way down, but that does not seem to be the crux of the main kinds of problems that are likely to afflict people who are fucking around with either selling too much bitcoin too soon as BTC prices are going up and even sometimes either failing to continue to DCA, stopping their DCA or cutting back on their DCA because they are trying to play UP and down waves that may well not end up taking place in such amounts that allow them to get a sufficient amount of advantage from those kinds of plays to make them worth their efforts when maybe they just need to continue accumulating BTC without trying to play the waves.
Maybe it's quite difficult to explain because those who sell Bitcoin at low prices definitely have problems in the investment they make, such as fear that the price will fall further and there is also no confidence for them to hold it for the long term. If we look at the period last year where the price of BTC fell quite significantly to the $15k price level. Of course we see many people selling their BTC at that time and of course we don't know the reason they sold BTC at such a low price.

However, we as holder, we think they made a mistake by selling at a low price because if they waited a little longer, maybe they could get a better profit from the decision they made. Apart from that, if they play in the waves, the risk they take may be greater if the plans they have made end in failure.

This is not something easy because it deals with the emotion of the person and if they can’t first control that emotions, they will always sell at a panic hoping that they’ve escaped the market volatility into not losing all of their money. The reality of such action is that they will be at a loss already, since the market already gone in contrary to their expectations and loss some money already. At that time a BTC worth $100 for instance would have been less than $100, but the number of BTC holdings will not change; that is were the narrative of 1BTC will always be 1BTC as long as you don’t sell them out.

If you’ve started DCA by then, it was suppose to be the right time to accumulate more when the market was on downtrend and the value of a BTC would have reduced drastically. If you’d bought a $100 worth of BTC earlier, buying another $100 worth of it this time will give you more number of BTC to add to your holdings at the same price. With this action, you’ve now leveled your portfolio and brought a worth of BTC in the portfolio at a price less than $100 each when calculated. The conclusion of it is that you will earn more BTC in a year time than the one that doesn’t do DCA but only buy at high price and sell at low price due to panic.

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It is people that lacks patient and are very greedy that will be eager to make profit by selling now and they will be surprise and fustrated in the nearest future. And for those people that think that because the price has pump to this price, that they should stop investing due to the little amount of Satoshi that their regular DCA cash can buy. They are getting it all wrong, it is better that you keep buying, no matter how little it is. Before you will know it you would have bought some fractions that you will have never expected. Fear, Panic, inconsistency, lack of patient and greed is a barrier to long term holding and growth to your bitcoin portfolio because it these are all what can control our emotions to make a decision that we might finally regret.

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Whether we suggest that the rich people (institutions) are buying all of the bitcoin or if we might have some other reason(s) about why the BTC price is going up, historically, there have been several instances in which the BTC price moved upwardly out of an historical range that it had been, but then thereafter, never did return to that previous price range, and people who had been delaying in their buying of BTC, or waiting for lower BTC prices prior to buying, ended up looking foolish in retrospect.  So yeah, we have had right around 18 months to be buying BTC below $35k... so how much longer is it going to last?  We cannot be sure.  Are there going to be further dips below $30k?  We cannot be sure.

The position that the bitcoin price is heading to, is what many of us don't know whether it will keep rising above $33k or fall below $33k. Historically, the month of October always has bitcoin rise in price, which it finally did, after seeing it fluctuate around $27k - $28k for weeks.

The month of November will be in a week and we don't know what bitcoin price would be by then. But I believe that the price of bitcoin will fluctuate at a higher price of $35k - $38k in November
You might be right or not to say that it is because we are in the month of October that is why the price of bitcoin is at 34k+ but don't also forget that we have news that SEC will approve ETF bitcoin by January next year maybe this might also be the reason, and what if SEC fails to comply to the date, what next.

In regard of talking about next month is Bitcoin price will continue with its pump is what nobody can say because what if the price dumps. We shouldn't bother about the price and month that we are on as we haven't gotten to the halving yet, because there might still be a dump before December or by next year before the halving based on past records. What we should focus on is to make sure that we continue with our regular DCA method to keep on accumulating more bitcoin instead of being carried away by the present price or what will happen to the price, the next day or month. That can make one stop accumulating or reduce the amount that he is using for DCA.

I almost fell for this early this week when the price started to pump but I later realized that I don't have any other option than to continue with my regular 10% DCA, rather than getting confused with what price will bitcoin be and what step to take that will be the best strategy to increase my bitcoin portfolio. This is a lesson for me and is peradventure bitcoin price dips belown 30k, I might increase my DCA with additional 3%.

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One of the factors that affect most investors is always consistently watching the Bitcoin price movement, however in most cases no matter your intentions of holding watching the price all the time could affect your psychology or emotions that could make you to panic and if not careful it could lead you by selling of your accumulated Bitcoin.

For beginners who just started accumulating Bitcoin using the DCA strategy should be aware of Bitcoin price movement so that they will not be influence to start trading the market because with the potential of Bitcoin this few days price movement will be nothing compared to what is coming.

So let's get started and keep on accumulating with our DCA strategy.
By staying focused on the DCA method, someone will not be too influenced by what is happening in the market. They still invest a certain amount of money every week or month and buy bitcoin, whatever the price on the market. And that's good for them because they don't panic and have no desire to sell their bitcoins. After all, their target is long term.

Beginners who invest in bitcoin using the DCA method do not need to observe the price of bitcoin and they are different from beginners who trade in the market. Those who trade must always observe and pay attention to prices in the market and then analyze them to get time to enter and exit the market.
With the strategy we are currently using, there is clearly no doubt that we will continue to enter and consistently carry out DCA every certain period. People who have long-term targets will clearly not hesitate to continue investing.
I am one of the very lucky people, because while doing this strategy I found this forum, and it was very pleasant when there were many people in it who really inspired me to make me fully believe in investing in bitcoin with this DCA strategy.
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If you are not sure about it, then start with buying $10 per week of bitcoin and get your shit together, figure out your finances and your psychology and if you got it mostly figured out
I know it is as too small to begin But this is me that you mentioned mate, Yeah I started purchasing 10 dollars worth of Bitcoin back in mid of 2017 , and added a increasing amount each week.

but with wrong decisions in life, I got involved in gambling and ending losing all my investments in 2018 and yes , I truly regret those decisions.
But from there of mistake ,Now I can proudly say that I can feel the success in the net bull run.
Nevertheless, I expect you will not to treat your Bitcoin investment with this mindset of gambling... trying to get rich quick with little effort. The lessons you learnt from your previous experience should guide you on the important of gradual growth rather than wanting it overnight. The DCA method is one sure way you can achieve this slow but steady growth in your Bitcoin accumulation.
Don't worry I am a New Person now and  Gambling is less my priority though still playing some time but just a little as i can afford to lose,  and thanks to my Wife that never leave me from my darkest days.

and also thanks to JJG for keep inspiring Bitcoin users/holders with unending advises and worth listening topics.
Hope he will not act like that lol.. 

but for me , as I keep reading most of your post and still learning more each day , thank you for being so active specially for Bitcoin .
He has been of so much help in the forum.Through him I have learnt the DCA method and other wonderful things including the power of small beginning. There is a saying that "if you following who know the road, you will never be lost"
Well , with His years of experience and Knowledge like what said , there is no hurt in trusting the people you know stands for everyone's benefits, and besides we have nothing to lose because in the end of the day Bitcoin is still our currency to hold.

We still realize that ongoing BTC price performance to the upside is not guaranteed, but if we do not fuck around with the amount that we invest (by using leverage and other forms of extreme risk taking), then the most that we would end up losing in the worse case scenario is 100%.. while at the same time, there seem to be decent chances of BTC prices continuing to gravitate upwardly, there are a variety of upwards scenarios that support BTC price scenarios of 10s, if not 100s, if not 1,000s, of times higher than current BTC prices, so there seems to be some logic to putting value into BTC and taking chances on bets that have decently good upside asymetry, and surely it might be good to be aggressive in terms of investing in bitcoin, yet even if some of us might decide not to be very aggressive, some of the non-aggressive persons will also end up being quite a lot better off by investing into bitcoin as opposed to choosing not to invest in bitcoin.

Think of the guy who started investing in bitcoin with $10 per week at the top of the BTC price market at $1,163  in late 2013.  He would have had invested $5,170, and he would have accumulated right around 4.62 BTC.  Sure, he might not be rich, but he has more options and he also has a pretty decent amount of value from a pretty low commitment amount..  Of course, the guy who invested 10x that $100 per week would be 10x better off with having had invested nearly $52k and with 46.2 BTC, but the one who invested 10x more may also had to have had struggled more in order to be able to invest that amount of money as compared with the one who had merely invested $10 per week, and so my point is that sometimes even whimpy investing into something like BTC could end up paying off decently well if there is a long enough timeline, and at the same time there are still no guarantees of good or great performance even though the investment thesis for bitcoin does not seem to be getting any weaker.

One of the factors that affect most investors is always consistently watching the Bitcoin price movement, however in most cases no matter your intentions of holding watching the price all the time could affect your psychology or emotions that could make you to panic and if not careful it could lead you by selling of your accumulated Bitcoin.

For beginners who just started accumulating Bitcoin using the DCA strategy should be aware of Bitcoin price movement so that they will not be influence to start trading the market because with the potential of Bitcoin this few days price movement will be nothing compared to what is coming.

So let's get started and keep on accumulating with our DCA strategy.
By staying focused on the DCA method, someone will not be too influenced by what is happening in the market. They still invest a certain amount of money every week or month and buy bitcoin, whatever the price on the market. And that's good for them because they don't panic and have no desire to sell their bitcoins. After all, their target is long term.

Beginners who invest in bitcoin using the DCA method do not need to observe the price of bitcoin and they are different from beginners who trade in the market. Those who trade must always observe and pay attention to prices in the market and then analyze them to get time to enter and exit the market.

I think that the earlier you are in your investment, the more difficult it can be to just keep plowing away at ongoing DCA buying, such as $10 per week or $100 per week, whatever might be the chosen amount, and surely it does not get completely easier, but with the passage of time, there likely can develop increasing confidence, such as 4-10 years of DCAing into BTC could have decent potentials to add up to a decent amount of value.

While you are ongoingly and continuing to invest into bitcoin, there are likely needs to get other aspects of your life in order too, and whether you are able to increase your cashflow or to decrease your expenses, you might need to figure out ways to be moderate and maybe even reward yourself from time to time with some levels of consumption, so long as you are not completely depleting your efforts, after several years of investing, you might choose to either shave off some of you investing into bitcoin or maybe just take from other sources of income or cash reserves that you had been building up and reward yourself for your good efforts... but at the same time, you might get yourself into a bad situation if you believe you constantly need to be rewarding yourself, and there are going to be various periods of investing that even in the middle of the investment you start to feel like you need to cash out some because the asset is too volatile for your own psychology. 

Whatever you decide to do, it is probably better to plan it out rather than being impulsive, and it seems that buying on the way down and selling on the way up are the better basic ideas to stay ahead of things and let the price come to you rather than reacting.. yet since this thread is about buying strategies, we are mostly trying to consider those kinds of matters rather than the various ways that each of us likely need to make sure that we are keeping our house in good enough order that we are coming to bitcoin with a stable psychology and stable finances, and likely if we create conditions to stabilize our finances, then psychology will likely go along with those kinds of preparations.

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By staying focused on the DCA method, someone will not be too influenced by what is happening in the market. They still invest a certain amount of money every week or month and buy bitcoin, whatever the price on the market. And that's good for them because they don't panic and have no desire to sell their bitcoins. After all, their target is long term.

Beginners who invest in bitcoin using the DCA method do not need to observe the price of bitcoin and they are different from beginners who trade in the market. Those who trade must always observe and pay attention to prices in the market and then analyze them to get time to enter and exit the market.

My advise to beginners and long term investors with little resources is for them to begin with the DCA method rather than the lump sum. It gives them the ability to manage the crisis that are in the investment couple with they have smaller funds to invest. As a beginner, you have less control of emotions to things like this, and in the event that you are faced with bad timings of purchase.

Also, as a beginner, you have less resources at your disposal and more desperation in the Return of Investment, to be able to get it right, start with the DCA approach. But one will realize that as you invest in this, your expectations will be minimal.

The best part of this investment apart from its less funds to invest or lose, is that you do not necessarily need to have a very large amount of money to be able to invest before you can start benefiting from the market growth.

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The position that the bitcoin price is heading to, is what many of us don't know whether it will keep rising above $33k or fall below $33k. Historically, the month of October always has bitcoin rise in price, which it finally did, after seeing it fluctuate around $27k - $28k for weeks.

The month of November will be in a week and we don't know what bitcoin price would be by then. But I believe that the price of bitcoin will fluctuate at a higher price of $35k - $38k in November

Like some months ago, we were speculating that the price of Bitcoin would go high by the end of the year; as a matter of fact, I even speculated $40k to $50k, and by then no one was certain what the price would be today. Even if anyone was certain of what they strongly believed the price would be, it could still not be what they think it would be because they are not in control of the market.

Right now, no one can say for sure which direction the market is headed—if it will keep rising or dropping—but one approach investors should not set aside is the DCA. There are definitely some people who want to invest in Bitcoin, but they are scared that the price might fall again, so they feel they should hold on. The question is, what if the price continues to surge through this year until the halving period? I don't think anyone would prefer to sell now that the price has not even risen to any length, and the person selling now cannot even tell if the price will get to $50k before December, and if it does, they will begin to regret why they sold now.

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October 26, 2023, 05:24:58 PM
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By staying focused on the DCA method, someone will not be too influenced by what is happening in the market. They still invest a certain amount of money every week or month and buy bitcoin, whatever the price on the market. And that's good for them because they don't panic and have no desire to sell their bitcoins. After all, their target is long term.

Beginners who invest in bitcoin using the DCA method do not need to observe the price of bitcoin and they are different from beginners who trade in the market. Those who trade must always observe and pay attention to prices in the market and then analyze them to get time to enter and exit the market.
My advise to beginners and long term investors with little resources is for them to begin with the DCA method rather than the lump sum. It gives them the ability to manage the crisis that are in the investment couple with they have smaller funds to invest. As a beginner, you have less control of emotions to things like this, and in the event that you are faced with bad timings of purchase.

Also, as a beginner, you have less resources at your disposal and more desperation in the Return of Investment, to be able to get it right, start with the DCA approach. But one will realize that as you invest in this, your expectations will be minimal.

The best part of this investment apart from its less funds to invest or lose, is that you do not necessarily need to have a very large amount of money to be able to invest before you can start benefiting from the market growth.

I like the idea of either lump summing and/or front loading DCA in the beginning in order to attempt to get a higher stake into BTC right from the start, and then thereafter have money for DCA and buying on dips, and sure, maybe you don't really need to buy on dips as long as you are mostly DCAing.

Otherwise, surely there can be some differences in finances, and some beginners will neither have funds available to lump sum and their finances might be in worse shape in the very beginning so they are not able to front load (meaning doing BIGGER) DCAs in the beginning... so surely each person should be attempting to take the approach to BTC that best works for them, and it may also be the case that they should look at charts in order to help to inform them how aggressive that they might be, but it is not necessarily going to tell you a lot which way the BTC price might go, even if you do look at some charts and try to figure out where we are at, where we had been and what does that mean in terms of where we might be going.  Beginners might have more difficulties with these kinds of matters, even though even longer term bitcoiners are not good at it, and even though I have been staring at bitcoin charts for nearly 10 years, I still don't like to make proclamations that are much beyond 50/50 in terms of where we might be going in the short term.

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October 26, 2023, 09:25:24 PM
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With all due respect, I would like to argue that DCA is the best solution in increasing the deposit. I understand that everyone has their own opinion about technical analysis, but I think it works. I mean only support and resistance levels (usually on beautiful numbers with zeros), as well as trends. These anaiza tools allow us to understand where it is better to sell or buy bitcoin. I'm not talking about 100 percent confidence in them, but the chance that the price will always behave predictably is more than 50 percent, which means using this knowledge can bring profit. That's exactly how I trade.
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I like the idea of either lump summing and/or front loading DCA in the beginning in order to attempt to get a higher stake into BTC right from the start, and then thereafter have money for DCA and buying on dips, and sure, maybe you don't really need to buy on dips as long as you are mostly DCAing.

Otherwise, surely there can be some differences in finances, and some beginners will neither have funds available to lump sum and their finances might be in worse shape in the very beginning so they are not able to front load (meaning doing BIGGER) DCAs in the beginning... so surely each person should be attempting to take the approach to BTC that best works for them, and it may also be the case that they should look at charts in order to help to inform them how aggressive that they might be, but it is not necessarily going to tell you a lot which way the BTC price might go, even if you do look at some charts and try to figure out where we are at, where we had been and what does that mean in terms of where we might be going.  Beginners might have more difficulties with these kinds of matters, even though even longer term bitcoiners are not good at it, and even though I have been staring at bitcoin charts for nearly 10 years, I still don't like to make proclamations that are much beyond 50/50 in terms of where we might be going in the short term.
In this stage, initial purchases and subsequent stages can be adjusted to their level of financial strength. In general, beginners don't quite understand how to analyze charts and of course I felt that way when I first got to know Bitcoin. However, every initial purchase will always be a beautiful moment for them in the future and many of them invest larger amounts at the initial purchase stage. However, for me, if they don't act aggressively in the initial purchase and balance it with the appropriate amount at each stage, it would certainly be better, but it all depends on how they invest.

Sometimes they can include larger amounts of money in their investment planning either at the beginning or at the end or when prices fall. But chasing the price down is certainly not a good option because if the price continues to rise then those who are waiting are a little frustrated with this, which could result in them making an instant purchase. But if they do it with DCA of course they can buy at any price without waiting time to find a cheaper price.

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By staying focused on the DCA method, someone will not be too influenced by what is happening in the market. They still invest a certain amount of money every week or month and buy bitcoin, whatever the price on the market. And that's good for them because they don't panic and have no desire to sell their bitcoins. After all, their target is long term.

Beginners who invest in bitcoin using the DCA method do not need to observe the price of bitcoin and they are different from beginners who trade in the market. Those who trade must always observe and pay attention to prices in the market and then analyze them to get time to enter and exit the market.

My advise to beginners and long term investors with little resources is for them to begin with the DCA method rather than the lump sum. It gives them the ability to manage the crisis that are in the investment couple with they have smaller funds to invest. As a beginner, you have less control of emotions to things like this, and in the event that you are faced with bad timings of purchase.

Also, as a beginner, you have less resources at your disposal and more desperation in the Return of Investment, to be able to get it right, start with the DCA approach. But one will realize that as you invest in this, your expectations will be minimal.

The best part of this investment apart from its less funds to invest or lose, is that you do not necessarily need to have a very large amount of money to be able to invest before you can start benefiting from the market growth.

If all new and long-term investors adopt and have this mindset, there will be less panic and dissemination of negative news about bitcoin in society. individuals who argue bitcoin is not a currency to rely on or invest in are individuals who lacked appropriate market expertise and simply went in because of some amazing news they heard about how your return on investment will be massive.  For every investment, you should learn the basics before diving in; otherwise, the setback will always be more than the small risk you should have taken, combined with some patience in the market, which should have been done in the first place.

If you're new to bitcoin, don't be discouraged by what others say; instead, identify a method that works best for you based on your financial situation and invest in bitcoin using that approach. What you must do is adopt the mindset of long-term investing in order to reap the benefits later. It makes no difference how you accumulate, but having a long time investment always promises a better benefit in the future.

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October 26, 2023, 10:11:41 PM
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With all due respect, I would like to argue that DCA is the best solution in increasing the deposit. I understand that everyone has their own opinion about technical analysis, but I think it works. I mean only support and resistance levels (usually on beautiful numbers with zeros), as well as trends. These anaiza tools allow us to understand where it is better to sell or buy bitcoin. I'm not talking about 100 percent confidence in them, but the chance that the price will always behave predictably is more than 50 percent, which means using this knowledge can bring profit. That's exactly how I trade.

You sound lost.

We are not talking about selling or trading in this thread.

1) Self-Custody is a right.  There is no such thing as "non-custodial" or "un-hosted."  2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized.  3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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October 26, 2023, 11:29:25 PM
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With all due respect, I would like to argue that DCA is the best solution in increasing the deposit. I understand that everyone has their own opinion about technical analysis, but I think it works. I mean only support and resistance levels (usually on beautiful numbers with zeros), as well as trends. These anaiza tools allow us to understand where it is better to sell or buy bitcoin. I'm not talking about 100 percent confidence in them, but the chance that the price will always behave predictably is more than 50 percent, which means using this knowledge can bring profit. That's exactly how I trade.

You sound lost.

We are not talking about selling or trading in this thread.
lolz! the nigga forget to read the Op and was only interested to jump in to the middle and deposit (say) what he thought is in the discussion in the thread. @imthegreat, I know you are a newbie but even at that next time read the Op to understand the content and also read some comments on the first page in the thread then you come to the last page to see if the Op, first page comments and the last page comments are in the line then you will know where to start from. As it is you are a merit hunter that don't know what to say, and where to comment. I believed ordinary understanding the topic, he would have made a good comment because the topic is self explanatory. Let me go to the main track. This days the price is appreciating and those who bought in the time of $25k will have one tooth open and smile, though we are still in the dip so if anyone is interested to buy and hodle, he or she should do now before the next bull. The best time is still now.
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October 27, 2023, 12:08:13 AM
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With all due respect, I would like to argue that DCA is the best solution in increasing the deposit. I understand that everyone has their own opinion about technical analysis, but I think it works. I mean only support and resistance levels (usually on beautiful numbers with zeros), as well as trends. These anaiza tools allow us to understand where it is better to sell or buy bitcoin. I'm not talking about 100 percent confidence in them, but the chance that the price will always behave predictably is more than 50 percent, which means using this knowledge can bring profit. That's exactly how I trade.
I don't really understand the point you are actually trying to make but however talking about technical analysis and other things you are mentioning actually has nothing to do with DCA strategy, perhaps it seems you don't really understand our discussion concerning DCA strategy and secondly our major aim here is to discuss about other strategies that could help us on our accumulation of Bitcoin with the aim of holding it for a long time.

Perhaps it seems you are emphasizing more on trading, however I would advise you go for holding and remove the mindset of trading in your budget because as a beginners who has no knowledge about trading should stay clear because you cannot withstand the outcome of it, so for you to have a rest of mind, you should go for holding by accumulating Bitcoin using DCA strategy.

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