YoBit Signature Campaign (Bitcointalk)

[LoyceMobile]

I will offer 0.0003 BTC/post with max 140 posts a week for an indefinite period of time to all current ChipMixer participants. We are paying the 101th week later today.

Would you like to bet that no one will switch? Keep in mind that you said a lot will switch.

How many times per week can I switch back and forth?

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[mdayonliner]

P.S: 21 20 21

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Compensation

I will transfer you 21 BTC, which is placed under escrow / trust.

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How am I going to feed my family sir ?

Missed that part. All those day I thought it was 20 BTC LOL

Should I also tell my boss to stop paying me because I like my job?

If the company is bigger for you than the salary you get - then why not? Tell ChipMixer that you will volunteer for the next one year.

Steve jobs salary was $1 a year (not sure if that was true)

when Jobs returned to Apple as CEO in 1997 after a twelve-year absence, the company was really struggling. Taking a $1 salary was a way of showing how much he cared about the company

Why would I even do that when I can support ChipMixer (which is 1000x better than Yobit) + post + get paid at the same time? Sounds like a win-win(-win) situation for me.

Money matters.

Loyalty is a very big thing. Certainly it's bigger than money.

~
How many times per week can I switch back and forth?

You are never going back  
Coz for you DarkStar_ will lose his bet (if we agree of-course)

Update:
Had enough signature spamming, Nap time.
Each earns me 0.00012 btc, hack I was a member of chipmixer family, would like the pay raise. 

[DarkStar_]

@mdayonliner I'm offering on option for current ChipMixer participants to either stay with the current pay scheme (0.00075 BTC/post, max 50) or switch to your proposed scheme that will cause a lot of people to switch (0.0003 BTC/post, max 140). That way we don't need to worry about YoBit doing anything, people don't have to promote a shady exchange. There are stricter terms, but at least it exists

(on a semi-unrelated point, I am wearing the ChipMixer signature for free)

I will offer 0.0003 BTC/post with max 140 posts a week for an indefinite period of time to all current ChipMixer participants. We are paying the 101th week later today.

Would you like to bet that no one will switch? Keep in mind that you said a lot will switch.

How many times per week can I switch back and forth?

For fairness to the YoBit comparison, I only allow people to switch between the two when there is an open spot and an independent manager agrees that you are the best person to accept out of everyone who applied. After all, if you joined YoBit, you couldn't freely switch over.  

[Steamtyme]

I will offer 0.0003 BTC/post with max 140 posts a week for an indefinite period of time to all current ChipMixer participants. We are paying the 101th week later today.
Would you like to bet that no one will switch? Keep in mind that you said a lot will switch.

Sounds like a win for @LoyceV I see they've found this lol

Mday... come on man. You know that most of the people raising a stink about Yobit are doing so from experience. It's not like this was some small launch in the traditional fashion with weekly terms. They essentially handed over the coinpurse and said blanket the forum. Not all members wearing the Sig are going to do that, but you know there are a tremendous amount of opportunistic people out there who don't care what they type. Already seen a few doozies. Given what I've seen so far about the service they've offered I can see why people were aprehensive.

It's not really a coincidence that a lot of these members are in Chipmixer, eventually a large portion of people decide why not wear a Sig and get paid for the posting I'm doing anyways. Considering Chipmixers longevity and rates it would attract the more active members who contribute quality material. I can't speak for DS, but I imagine had things gone differently you may have found yourself there. We'll probably never know as your situation has become fairly solidified, but who knows with time.

I would just point that if you ever checked the spreadsheet for Chipmixer campaign you will see not a lot of people actually force posting to get to 50. So it's hard to imagine a lot of members leaving to force themselves to 140.

For fairness to the YoBit comparison, I only allow people to switch between the two when there is an open spot and an independent manager agrees that you are the best person to accept out of everyone who applied. After all, if you joined YoBit, you couldn't freely switch over. 

Well they may be one step closer to making the terms of this Bet possible. yahoo62278 is in discussion about managing the campaign and has a thread discussing it. Yobit and campaign manager discussion

[marcotheminer]

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You were literally just paid 0.0002 BTC to post "empty".. Just delete the post. (Message me when you do and I'll delete this one too..)

I tell you what, this will be interesting if Yobit starts to pay 0.0003 per post for all accepted rank (Sr+). This will make 0.042 btc per week. Run it for few weeks, pay regularly, promise a long term campaign - you will see a lot of them shamelessly will leave that campaign and join here.

Put your money where your mouth it. Lets make a bet that in the next X number of weeks, no one who willing leaves from the ChipMixer campaign joins the YoBit campaign. Interested?

I am not that much rich to bet huge amount but I can afford to lose 0.1 BTC.

If Youbit pays 0.042 btc per week and if they pays it for long term say a year (52 weeks) then you will surely see some of your ChipMixer fellas will move here.

Man! it's money what drives people. You think those people really care about ChipMixer, You think if ChipMixer would paid say 0.02 BTC a week then they would be crazy to join like they are crazy now?

Hey Dark, I have nothing against your campaign or you. But really it's sad to see that so many of the ChipMixer candidates are too annoyed with this campaign.

They worry about 20/day post? Hack when I was regularly posting (before all these nonsense shit Hilary bought against me)  in the forum I easily made over 200 post per week! Ask yahoo coz I know you guys do not believe a red trusted member.

And I can assure you that I did not spam or I would not earn the amount of merits I have. You may ask whey I don't have much merit? Simple, the red trust or I would have enough merit to be a Legendary here. I only need to wait for activities.

I somehow doubt Yobit will keep this going for 50 weeks.. (50 x 0.03/week x 150 members = 200+ BTC .. )

[DarkStar_]

I will offer 0.0003 BTC/post with max 140 posts a week for an indefinite period of time to all current ChipMixer participants. We are paying the 101th week later today.
Would you like to bet that no one will switch? Keep in mind that you said a lot will switch.

Sounds like a win for @LoyceV I see they've found this lol

I'm not even sure LoyceV would take it. They'd have to average 125 to reach the current payout for 50, and based off of historical records, they post about 90-120 times a week.

Also, we can set up the bet without YoBit having to actually do anything. I'm willing to subsidize/profit off of anyone who takes the offer by paying the extra out of pocket or taking the extra paid by the campaign and keeping it

edit: if we do bet, I'm not asking for a lot. Maybe something like 0.01BTC donated to the winner's choice of charity? I'm not rich either 

[mdayonliner]

Mday... come on man. You know that most of the people raising a stink about Yobit are doing so from experience. It's not like this was some small launch in the traditional fashion with weekly terms. They essentially handed over the coinpurse and said blanket the forum. Not all members wearing the Sig are going to do that, but you know there are a tremendous amount of opportunistic people out there who don't care what they type. Already seen a few doozies. Given what I've seen so far about the service they've offered I can see why people were aprehensive.

In a hurry now to go to bed.

Trust me I used to care a lot for the forum but I do now is zero. It happens when some dipshit will destroy your worth and you can not do anything about it because they have influence in the community.

It's clear to me that mod like hilariousandco are poison for this forum. And sadly when hilariousandco will say something everyone will buy it. Like they bought all those mday == other guys.

@Dark, I saw your last post. I will response tomorrow. I really gotta go now.

PS: It was nice to exchange words to you fellas. Miss my old day. Good night.

[BitcoinSupremo]

Mday... come on man. You know that most of the people raising a stink about Yobit are doing so from experience. It's not like this was some small launch in the traditional fashion with weekly terms. They essentially handed over the coinpurse and said blanket the forum. Not all members wearing the Sig are going to do that, but you know there are a tremendous amount of opportunistic people out there who don't care what they type. Already seen a few doozies. Given what I've seen so far about the service they've offered I can see why people were aprehensive.

In a hurry now to go to bed.

Trust me I used to care a lot for the forum but I do now is zero. It happens when some dipshit will destroy your worth and you can not do anything about it because they have influence in the community.

It's clear to me that mod like hilariousandco are poison for this forum. And sadly when hilariousandco will say something everyone will buy it. Like they bought all those mday == other guys.

@Dark, I saw your last post. I will response tomorrow. I really gotta go now.

PS: It was nice to exchange words to you fellas. Miss my old day. Good night.

I think that Chipmixer is the best campaign right now that Darkstar is managing great, what I don't like is that all DT are in there, to me it simply look suspicious that all DT members want to stay in that campaign when there are other better campaigns in terms of payrate  out there and paying.
Idiots like Lauda and his gang of asslicking assholes,this group is the real poison to the forum and the point is , the end result that fewer and fewer people are interested in Bitcointalk, me being the first not giving a fuck about anything here anymore as no matter what you do, no matter that you say that you have not used multiaccounts and abandoned all of them,you use only one account, harshness and hostility is all over you. This means no decentralization at all, people are not given second chances.

[marlboroza]

I will offer 0.0003 BTC/post with max 140 posts a week for an indefinite period of time to all current ChipMixer participants. We are paying the 101th week later today.

Would you like to bet that no one will switch? Keep in mind that you said a lot will switch.

Ok, no problem. I will have to move from 9 posts this week to 140 posts next week. I have bought myself a new keyboard with words instead of letters on it so ti shouldn't be a problem. And it beeps when post hits 100 characters  

[stompix]

I will offer 0.0003 BTC/post with max 140 posts a week for an indefinite period of time to all current ChipMixer participants. We are paying the 101th week later today.

Would you like to bet that no one will switch? Keep in mind that you said a lot will switch.

I'd rather stop wearing a signature than joining yobit.
And leaving ChipMixer to join a herd, flock, pack whatever of spammers?
Yobit would have to pay me a shame bonus first  

Besides looking at the spreadsheet I see only 10-15 members doing more than 50 posts a week, so for many the yobit offer wouldn't make sense even if we talk finnacialy

Would be interesting to see an average merit earned comparison between the two campaigns
I have a feeling only alone Loycev has more than their entire army.

[LoyceMobile]

I'm not even sure LoyceV would take it. They'd have to average 125 to reach the current payout for 50, and based off of historical records, they post about 90-120 times a week.

Lol no thanks, I shouldn't spend more time here than I do already.
Maggiordomo would make it to 140 per week.

[cryptovigi]

Guys, are you really sure that it makes any sense to continue the discussion on this thread?

I think that all the important facts have been already presented and further discussion here leads us completly nowhere. I counted that on 220 posts written in this topic over 140 are with the yobit signature. What does it mean? In my opinion, only one thing - while continuing the discussion here, we only help the yobitters to keep their daily pool of 20 paid posts.

Therefore, the only explanation for continuing discussions in this topic is trying to stop the yobitters here (in this thread) and not let them to spread to the rest of the forum (what's of unfortunately impossible), otherwise the only sensible solution is to stop the discussion in this thread at this point.




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I'm starting to get more and more afraid - one of the yobitters attacked me at the Polish local board:

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I post where I want when I want and with who I want. You have a problem with that?
I don't need the opinion of a noob from 2018 (you entered just for the krach?  ) with only 900posts and 300merits.
nazdrowie
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Did you find any criticism of your behavior in my post? The title of this thread is "The King of the forum", so you should be glad that I nominated you as a candidate. What's more, I also noticed how easy you create the content - nearly 50 posts in 24 hours is a great result - even the biggest stars of this forum with the chipmixer logo in their signatures have a problem with writing so many posts throughout the week and you show them that you are doing It's easy in only 1 day. You are the best!!!

In addition, you are very perceptive !!! You noticed that I have actually been on bitcointalk since january 2018 and you've been here for the whole 8 months before me - Wow you're a real veteran (probably with such an experience you're already at least Theymos' advisor).

You also noted that I wrote only 900 posts when you have over 4.000 posts on your account (what's more - some of them even have more than three lines - wow !!!). In addition, I made only 362 merits writing 924 posts and you from the moment when I registered - you wrote whole 2.402 posts and you earned.... 274 merits. It means that you earn 1 merit on 8.76 posts you wrote and I earn 1 merit on 2,55 post..... (but it's only a little more than 3 times better result) But do not worry it does not mean anything - you are still my hero !!!!

na zdrowie

[IconFirm]

What a great thread - it makes tagging scam promoters so much easier when they are all in one convenient, handy list......

[Distinctin]

Read discussion between darkstar and mdayonliner.

Chipmixer will not be coming to promote a exchange like "Yobit".
None of the  current Yobit signature holder will ever close to be for consideration in chipmixer .(forget about the acceptance.)

They know the standard of Chipmixer campaign, there is an application but in yobit it's all automatic, you are accepted even if you are a spammer.
I just hope that there are really people in the yobit side that will monitor members post quality, so they can remove those who are caught spamming just to reach the 20 max per day.

[BlackMambaPH]

Unfortunately huge yobit spam started:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=969946- 20 one-liners
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=842046 hero member
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355816 - legendary member. 14 one-liners but he is just getting started. I've seen his "pseudo good posts multiple" times.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=550307 hero member 10 one-liners today
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19075 hero member 20 one-liners since yesterday
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=819237 hero member 20 yesterday and 2 today
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=307784 senior 4 posts but they are not even one-liners thats one-sentence
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809633 hero member 20
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=196616 senior - 14
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=826292 hero 20+
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=196616 hero 15

And the winner is...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=339270 LEGENDARY ... 40 ONE LINERS WITH 130 TRUST

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Looks like I'm the only one you didn't put on your list. Anyway. In some point, this is really considered spamming and candidate for a temporary ban as stated below.

Campaign Participants:

Staff do not want to hand out bans for unconstructive posts but if we feel that you as a user are continually making very poor or unsubstantial posts due to your paid signature the following bans will be issued:

First offence: 7 days
Second offence: 14 days
Third offence: 30 days
Fourth: Permanent ban

Campaign Operators:

If you are running a campaign and it becomes blatantly obvious to Staff that you are doing little to nothing to stop spam on your campaign you will be issued a PM warning by a Global Moderator that you need to make immediate improvements to curb low-quality posts. You will have 7 days to remove low-quality posters and respond to the message detailing what you are going to do to make changes to your campaign to reduce the amount of spam. If improvements are not noticeable within 21 days of that and Staff do not believe you are doing enough to prevent low quality posts your signatures will be blacklisted from the forum by an Admin and you will no longer be permitted to advertise here in such a way.

[Netnox]

I am not a big fan of Yobit, and I have posted against this exchange earlier multiple times. That said, I need to point out a few things:

1. Most of those users who are posting against the campaign are doing so because their own campaigns are paying much lower than what Yobit does. To put it simply, due to jealousy.

2. Theymos has made it clear that unless Yobit violates the forum policies, neither the exchange or the users can be banned.

3. Here the most heavy criticism is coming from those users who are themselves accused of borderline spamming.

4. In case you need to take action against this campaign, concentrate more on the quality of posts being made by the participants rather than blaming the campaign for being so generous.

5. From what I have noticed, the quality of posts being made by the participants of Yobit campaign so far has been much better than those made by other users (may be due to the ongoing controversy). There are some 10% spammers, but they are present everywhere.

[AdolfinWolf]

but you make it sound like those campaigning for yobit are doing things different from what you are doing - Hustling, it don't matter how hard you try to make it sound like ..... it is still hunting and you no different or better than all the rest hunters, no superiority here, i can only say jelousy, if that is not the case you would have let it be by now and leave the real mod to do their job

Because you leave all your morals at the door right the second you wear that yobit signature.

They have absolutely no respect for their customers, and are a border-line scam. Chipmixer on the other hand, isn’t.

Lol TryNinja

Money matters but also ethics matters too. Don't attack someone with the mistake they made.

You are saying to trust you coz I am sure you have control and faith over yourself so do I and in that case trust me, if (hypothetically) I would get that 21 20 BTC escrow offer accepted then I would keep my words. I am a man of strong ethics. The Hilary shit knows nothing about me.

If money does not matter then wear chipmixer signature without getting paid. How long you can wear it without getting paid?

You really have no place speaking about ethics when you're wearing a yobit signature...

Trust me I used to care a lot for the forum but I do now is zero. It happens when some dipshit will destroy your worth and you can not do anything about it because they have influence in the community.

And this is your way of sticking it to the forum? Promoting yobit? What happend to you reporting all those ICO scams? You know Yobit is the biggest fraud of them all when it comes to launching bullshit ICO's/IEO's (those don't even have project teams, they don't even exist), sure you must know that right?

You have "ethics" only when it matters for your personal gain... .(...)


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5108160.msg49672138#msg49672138

My questions to the community:
1. Should we individuals in Bitcointalk still endorse / recommend / advertise cloudbet?
2. What happen if anyone endorse / recommend / advertise cloudbet?

<snip(list of accusations against X company..>

I hope he will update his topic or completely remove any recommendation for cloudbet.

Hhampuz - I guess already done.

hilariousandco - Is he just ignoring everything? I still see his endorsement in his topic. As a global moderator that's something very wrong.

You can make the exact same post as above about Yobit, with the tons and tons of scam accusations alone against them. I guess you won't because... you're getting paid by them?  

Isn't it time for us to inform everyone (if needed then PM) and ask them to stop promoting/endorsing cloudbet? I have seen in the past when we smell anything wrong then DTs stepped forward and warned the users. If they denied then they tagged them.

Ironic...

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Again no, I would not. The worse case could be like ARBITAO, without prior knowledge I may join but then when I will be well aware of the scam and if I know that the account got hacked then I will leave the campaign without even informing the yahoo account owner (the hacked owner). And if I know for certain that yahoo account indeed is yahoo's then again I will inform him that I am going to leave his campaign after x amount of time or immediately. All depends on the situation.

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Like I said earlier, I do not want to be a part of any controversy, negative vibe where I do not feel 100% ok.

Being a part of any signature campaigning is a commitment to the manager, from that perspective I was committed to yahoo62278 as I was doing his job. Once I got confirmed decision from yahoo62278 then there were no reason for me not to leave the campaign.

I mean.. Surely you must be aware of all the scam accusations against Yobit, and you're still feeling 100% ok promoting them?
Okay then...

[Anonylz]

I am not a big fan of Yobit, and I have posted against this exchange earlier multiple times. That said, I need to point out a few things:

1. Most of those users who are posting against the campaign are doing so because their own campaigns are paying much lower than what Yobit does. To put it simply, due to jealousy.

2. Theymos has made it clear that unless Yobit violates the forum policies, neither the exchange or the users can be banned.

3. Here the most heavy criticism is coming from those users who are themselves accused of borderline spamming.

4. In case you need to take action against this campaign, concentrate more on the quality of posts being made by the participants rather than blaming the campaign for being so generous.

5. From what I have noticed, the quality of posts being made by the participants of Yobit campaign so far has been much better than those made by other users (may be due to the ongoing controversy). There are some 10% spammers, but they are present everywhere.

Some reasonable observation that really make so much sense to those who cares to read, i also thought the criticisms where looking more personal than just the normal protecting the interest of the forum, as has been stressed a thousand times, anyone found post spamming should be reported to the mod to take appropriate action, rather than this back and forth bashing of almost all participants of this campaign,

everyone has the right and the freedom to make their own decisions which include participating in any campaign that they feel comfortable with or for whatever reasons, people get scammed everyday not only by yobit but also from thousand of projects in this forum yet i don't see an army of the forum protectors coming to the rescue of the victims, anyways, i think the yobit participants get it now, am sure many will definitely work hard in accordance with the forum rules and avoid spamming.

[Tytanowy Janusz]

Some reasonable observation that really make so much sense to those who cares to read, i also thought the criticisms where looking more personal than just the normal protecting the interest of the forum, as has been stressed a thousand times, anyone found post spamming should be reported to the mod to take appropriate action, rather than this back and forth bashing of almost all participants of this campaign,

everyone has the right and the freedom to make their own decisions which include participating in any campaign that they feel comfortable with or for whatever reasons, people get scammed everyday not only by yobit but also from thousand of projects in this forum yet i don't see an army of the forum protectors coming to the rescue of the victims, anyways, i think the yobit participants get it now, am sure many will definitely work hard in accordance with the forum rules and avoid spamming.

No my friend. Most of those poits are nonesens.

1. Most of those users who are posting against the campaign are doing so because their own campaigns are paying much lower than what Yobit does. To put it simply, due to jealousy.

I've switched to bestmixer yesterday when yobit was already announced. So i'm not the one sad kid who is earning less complaining that others are earning more. I've made decision when both jobs were available. But even if i was in bestmixer for few weeks. Switching to yobit takes like 15 min. Everyone can participate and everyone is taken with open hands. Even red trusted. Try to switch from yobit to bestmixer, chipmixer, bustadice, fortunejack where are 10+ application for every 1 free slot available.
None of us is jealousy.

2. Theymos has made it clear that unless Yobit violates the forum policies, neither the exchange or the users can be banned.

BTT is huge. It has to be responsible for every step it takes. That's why it looks like that. Not because yobit is 100% legit and worth to recommend.

3. Here the most heavy criticism is coming from those users who are themselves accused of borderline spamming.

Pure assumptions not based by anything.

4. In case you need to take action against this campaign, concentrate more on the quality of posts being made by the participants rather than blaming the campaign for being so generous.

Generous? Your campaing pays 60 cets per post. My 1,5$, bustadice up to 4$, Chipmixer 3,75$ (senior member), fortunejack 4$ (hero member). Your campaign is not generous.

5. From what I have noticed, the quality of posts being made by the participants of Yobit campaign so far has been much better than those made by other users (may be due to the ongoing controversy). There are some 10% spammers, but they are present everywhere.

Pure assumptions not based by anything.

 

[barota]

Hello everyone, is this avatar suitable for use by YoBit signature Campaign participants ?
I made it so that the profile looks interesting.

Signature Campaign without avatar!!! yes i agree with you skarais, and it is Is important for better advertise
you can add avatar yobit to your bitcointalk account
link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1036113.0