Say NO to GMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[skeet]

can someone tell me: why are people against GMO? I can't find any medical literature which suggests its toxic for the body.

According to some research and studies there are risks and dangers of consuming GMO foods it can create unpredicted allergies, antibiotic resistant diseases, toxins and health problems.

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[TECSHARE]

can someone tell me: why are people against GMO? I can't find any medical literature which suggests its toxic for the body.

According to some research and studies there are risks and dangers of consuming GMO foods it can create unpredicted allergies, antibiotic resistant diseases, toxins and health problems.

A large part of the problem is GMO is such a new untested idea that not only have all the long term side effects not been mapped yet, but because of the nature of GMO foods activating dormant genetic triggers in some but not all people means the effects are less predictable and effect people on a more individual level, making documentation of these problems even more difficult. In this way the problems are irregular enough for them to have plausible deniability for any damages caused. Just as the medical industry uses us as guinea pigs for new and dangerous pharmaceuticals, we are also being used to test GMOs. When the medical effects appear they have enough question in the causal relationship to claim they are not sure, forcing massively complicated large scale double blind studies to demonstrate destructive effect to be created and funded just to conclusively demonstrate the danger. The more ways they can claim it "could be" something else, the less liability they have.

[CryptoREI]

I live in the USA and when given the choice to buy GMO foods or not, I choose organic every time. Is GMO ok for some things like medicine of course... But growing mutant foods I do not agree with. Eat a tomato from the store and then eat one from a organic garden, you will be amazed.

[zolace]

I don't think that GMO food is good for us!GMOs, are created when a gene from one species is transferred to another, creating something that would not be found in nature.What can\t be found in nature,is impossible to be digested by our body.....from here it starts all the illness,the weight problems,cancer..........GMOs are not the answer for global food security

[Bit_Happy]

I live in the USA and when given the choice to buy GMO foods or not, I choose organic every time. Is GMO ok for some things like medicine of course... But growing mutant foods I do not agree with. Eat a tomato from the store and then eat one from a organic garden, you will be amazed.

Sounds good.
Organic foods are way too expensive.
I am going to need higher income ASAP.

[CryptoREI]

I live in the USA and when given the choice to buy GMO foods or not, I choose organic every time. Is GMO ok for some things like medicine of course... But growing mutant foods I do not agree with. Eat a tomato from the store and then eat one from a organic garden, you will be amazed.

Sounds good.
Organic foods are way too expensive.
I am going to need higher income ASAP.

I do farmers markets as much as possible you can get things a little cheaper, it might not be 100% organic all the time but its also not shelf ripe veggies either.
http://www.isaaa.org/resources/publications/pocketk/12/default.asp

But I do enjoy to garden myself I must say and that is the best of the best

[protokol]

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/05/31/monsanto-found-guilty-of-chemical-poisoning-in-france/

oops...

+1

yeah fuck that they dont give a damn about farmers.
recently another farmer was sentenced to prison for not spraying pesticides on his crops...
-> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/23/french-organic-winemaker-prison-pesticide

WTF

GMO, NWO....eugenica it is all conected

lol, what? Even if you do think that GM stuff is dangerous, why does it have to link in with all that conspiracy theory shite?

That's the problem with "activists" like you, although you speak some truths, you lose your credibility when you start linking everything together with no proof or evidence. It's one thing to say it's dangerous, another thing entirely to start saying it's some master NWO eugenics plan....

I personally think that GM food is perfectly safe if it's done carefully - I would say the main danger is cross-pollination, that could cause for example some sort of strain of super-plants (triffids if you will) that could upset the local eco-system. Unlikely though.

I don't agree with these hugely powerful corporations basically doing what the hell they like, however, with no regard for anything/anyone else. Also don't agree with the french dude going to prison, but that case has nothing to do with GMO as far as I can see?

conspiracy?
are you living on earth??

google eugenica bill gates

i think that you dont need google for nwo (nsa etc...)

I'm aware of Bill Gates' comments re: world population and that his grandfather was into eugenics. That doesn't make him a eugenicist. And it certainly doesn't mean that there is a conspiracy whereby Gates/Monsanto are cultivating GM crops to purposefully cause sterilization in any group of people.

Yes, he has invested heavily in sterilization and contraception programmes, as he believes (quite rightly IMO) that the world population is rising uncontrollably. His comments about population control are often taken out of context. For example, he said:

"Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that [world population] by perhaps 10 or 15 percent”

He does not mean that vaccines will kill off 10-15% of people (they would not be very good vaccines if they killed people rather than saving them). His opinion is that saving more children will cause many people in poor countries to give birth to LESS children, as their children will be far more likely to live until adulthood.

It is a well known fact that currently, poor countries have a much higher birth rate than developed countries.


Anyway, back on topic, here is a really informative article trying to look at both sides of the GMO debate, it's worth a read whether you're pro or anti GMO:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-truth-about-genetically-modified-food/

A couple of quotes from the article:

Critics often disparage U.S. research on the safety of genetically modified foods, which is often funded or even conducted by GM companies, such as Monsanto. But much research on the subject comes from the European Commission, the administrative body of the E.U., which cannot be so easily dismissed as an industry tool. The European Commission has funded 130 research projects, carried out by more than 500 independent teams, on the safety of GM crops. None of those studies found any special risks from GM crops.

Some scientists say the objections to GM food stem from politics rather than science—that they are motivated by an objection to large multinational corporations having enormous influence over the food supply; invoking risks from genetic modification just provides a convenient way of whipping up the masses against industrial agriculture. “This has nothing to do with science,” Goldberg says. “It's about ideology.” Former anti-GM activist Lynas agrees. He recently went as far as labeling the anti-GM crowd “explicitly an antiscience movement.”

Ever heard of "Golden Rice"? This is a genetically modified strain of rice which contains large amounts of vitamin A. Millions in poor countries die and go blind from vitamin A deficiency every year, so some clever people thought they'd make GM rice to try to help these people cheaply and effectively.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24515938

Unfortunately, anti-GM activists (like Greenpeace) have spread so much misinformation regarding this strain of rice, that crops are readily destroyed by locals, as they believe that they are dangerous. There has been no scientific evidence to show this, but groups like Greenpeace seem to think they know better.

Again, I don't like the idea that huge multinational corporations like Monsanto are so powerful that they can basically do what they want, filing patents and planting crops with no regard for local farmers etc.  And I think they do need to be careful with issues like cross-pollination.

But this idea that GM crops are inherently dangerous simply hasn't been proven - there is overwhelming evidence that they are safe.

And this idea that GM crops are part of some kind of global sterilization conspiracy is laughable - please show some real evidence for this if you can.

By the way, I try to eat as much organic, locally sourced food as I can. I think it generally tastes better and I like to support local farmers, even if it does cost me a bit more, and I don't like the idea of too many pesticides being used as it can affect the local eco-system, and supports huge chemical companies. But on the other hand I have no problems whatsoever with eating GM food. I have found that shitty processed food (like cheap white bread, and crap burgers/pizza/"meat") doesn't seem to agree with me, but this is down to how the food is manufactured and processed, not whether it contains GMO or not.

[CryptoREI]

I understand the feed the world stand point, but like has been said before we have not the slightest idea of long term problems that could be caused by this. If we ever find it to be a problem it may be to late due to the cross breeding of strains. I would have less problems with it if it was tested like they test medicine and it should be they are both consumed.

[TECSHARE]

I understand the feed the world stand point, but like has been said before we have not the slightest idea of long term problems that could be caused by this. If we ever find it to be a problem it may be to late due to the cross breeding of strains. I would have less problems with it if it was tested like they test medicine and it should be they are both consumed.

  The very problem is that GMOs are tested just like medicine. The company creates a product, does their own testing with no oversight, pays the FDA's salary via filing fees, then submits their "safe" results to the FDA for rubber stamp approval.

[mycoin254]

Okay. No, diabetes sufferer, you can't have your insulin, because it comes from genetically modified bacteria because there's not enough genuine human insulin to meet demand, so now you're going to die horribly. Am I doing it right?

Dude, don't need naked irony.Genetically modified, both good and bad things.

[Bit_Happy]

I live in the USA and when given the choice to buy GMO foods or not, I choose organic every time. Is GMO ok for some things like medicine of course... But growing mutant foods I do not agree with. Eat a tomato from the store and then eat one from a organic garden, you will be amazed.

Sounds good.
Organic foods are way too expensive.
I am going to need higher income ASAP.

I do farmers markets as much as possible you can get things a little cheaper, it might not be 100% organic all the time but its also not shelf ripe veggies either.
http://www.isaaa.org/resources/publications/pocketk/12/default.asp

But I do enjoy to garden myself I must say and that is the best of the best

I had a garden twice several years ago.
Should do it again soon, thanks for the reminder.

[mladen00]

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/05/31/monsanto-found-guilty-of-chemical-poisoning-in-france/

oops...

+1

yeah fuck that they dont give a damn about farmers.
recently another farmer was sentenced to prison for not spraying pesticides on his crops...
-> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/23/french-organic-winemaker-prison-pesticide

WTF

GMO, NWO....eugenica it is all conected

lol, what? Even if you do think that GM stuff is dangerous, why does it have to link in with all that conspiracy theory shite?

That's the problem with "activists" like you, although you speak some truths, you lose your credibility when you start linking everything together with no proof or evidence. It's one thing to say it's dangerous, another thing entirely to start saying it's some master NWO eugenics plan....

I personally think that GM food is perfectly safe if it's done carefully - I would say the main danger is cross-pollination, that could cause for example some sort of strain of super-plants (triffids if you will) that could upset the local eco-system. Unlikely though.

I don't agree with these hugely powerful corporations basically doing what the hell they like, however, with no regard for anything/anyone else. Also don't agree with the french dude going to prison, but that case has nothing to do with GMO as far as I can see?

conspiracy?
are you living on earth??

google eugenica bill gates

i think that you dont need google for nwo (nsa etc...)

I'm aware of Bill Gates' comments re: world population and that his grandfather was into eugenics. That doesn't make him a eugenicist. And it certainly doesn't mean that there is a conspiracy whereby Gates/Monsanto are cultivating GM crops to purposefully cause sterilization in any group of people.

Yes, he has invested heavily in sterilization and contraception programmes, as he believes (quite rightly IMO) that the world population is rising uncontrollably. His comments about population control are often taken out of context. For example, he said:

"Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that [world population] by perhaps 10 or 15 percent”

He does not mean that vaccines will kill off 10-15% of people (they would not be very good vaccines if they killed people rather than saving them). His opinion is that saving more children will cause many people in poor countries to give birth to LESS children, as their children will be far more likely to live until adulthood.

It is a well known fact that currently, poor countries have a much higher birth rate than developed countries.


Anyway, back on topic, here is a really informative article trying to look at both sides of the GMO debate, it's worth a read whether you're pro or anti GMO:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-truth-about-genetically-modified-food/

A couple of quotes from the article:

Critics often disparage U.S. research on the safety of genetically modified foods, which is often funded or even conducted by GM companies, such as Monsanto. But much research on the subject comes from the European Commission, the administrative body of the E.U., which cannot be so easily dismissed as an industry tool. The European Commission has funded 130 research projects, carried out by more than 500 independent teams, on the safety of GM crops. None of those studies found any special risks from GM crops.

Some scientists say the objections to GM food stem from politics rather than science—that they are motivated by an objection to large multinational corporations having enormous influence over the food supply; invoking risks from genetic modification just provides a convenient way of whipping up the masses against industrial agriculture. “This has nothing to do with science,” Goldberg says. “It's about ideology.” Former anti-GM activist Lynas agrees. He recently went as far as labeling the anti-GM crowd “explicitly an antiscience movement.”

Ever heard of "Golden Rice"? This is a genetically modified strain of rice which contains large amounts of vitamin A. Millions in poor countries die and go blind from vitamin A deficiency every year, so some clever people thought they'd make GM rice to try to help these people cheaply and effectively.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24515938

Unfortunately, anti-GM activists (like Greenpeace) have spread so much misinformation regarding this strain of rice, that crops are readily destroyed by locals, as they believe that they are dangerous. There has been no scientific evidence to show this, but groups like Greenpeace seem to think they know better.

Again, I don't like the idea that huge multinational corporations like Monsanto are so powerful that they can basically do what they want, filing patents and planting crops with no regard for local farmers etc.  And I think they do need to be careful with issues like cross-pollination.

But this idea that GM crops are inherently dangerous simply hasn't been proven - there is overwhelming evidence that they are safe.

And this idea that GM crops are part of some kind of global sterilization conspiracy is laughable - please show some real evidence for this if you can.

By the way, I try to eat as much organic, locally sourced food as I can. I think it generally tastes better and I like to support local farmers, even if it does cost me a bit more, and I don't like the idea of too many pesticides being used as it can affect the local eco-system, and supports huge chemical companies. But on the other hand I have no problems whatsoever with eating GM food. I have found that shitty processed food (like cheap white bread, and crap burgers/pizza/"meat") doesn't seem to agree with me, but this is down to how the food is manufactured and processed, not whether it contains GMO or not.

Gates is testing poisons in Africa.

I hope that soon will be end of USD as world currency, and that democracy will come into USA.
Now you have a very bad communism (you have 2 same political parties) without socialism.
It's very dangerus

[coincoin3]

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/05/31/monsanto-found-guilty-of-chemical-poisoning-in-france/

oops...

+1

yeah fuck that they dont give a damn about farmers.
recently another farmer was sentenced to prison for not spraying pesticides on his crops...
-> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/23/french-organic-winemaker-prison-pesticide

WTF

GMO, NWO....eugenica it is all conected

lol, what? Even if you do think that GM stuff is dangerous, why does it have to link in with all that conspiracy theory shite?

That's the problem with "activists" like you, although you speak some truths, you lose your credibility when you start linking everything together with no proof or evidence. It's one thing to say it's dangerous, another thing entirely to start saying it's some master NWO eugenics plan....

I personally think that GM food is perfectly safe if it's done carefully - I would say the main danger is cross-pollination, that could cause for example some sort of strain of super-plants (triffids if you will) that could upset the local eco-system. Unlikely though.

I don't agree with these hugely powerful corporations basically doing what the hell they like, however, with no regard for anything/anyone else. Also don't agree with the french dude going to prison, but that case has nothing to do with GMO as far as I can see?

conspiracy?
are you living on earth??

google eugenica bill gates

i think that you dont need google for nwo (nsa etc...)

I'm aware of Bill Gates' comments re: world population and that his grandfather was into eugenics. That doesn't make him a eugenicist. And it certainly doesn't mean that there is a conspiracy whereby Gates/Monsanto are cultivating GM crops to purposefully cause sterilization in any group of people.

Yes, he has invested heavily in sterilization and contraception programmes, as he believes (quite rightly IMO) that the world population is rising uncontrollably. His comments about population control are often taken out of context. For example, he said:

"Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that [world population] by perhaps 10 or 15 percent”

He does not mean that vaccines will kill off 10-15% of people (they would not be very good vaccines if they killed people rather than saving them). His opinion is that saving more children will cause many people in poor countries to give birth to LESS children, as their children will be far more likely to live until adulthood.

It is a well known fact that currently, poor countries have a much higher birth rate than developed countries.


Anyway, back on topic, here is a really informative article trying to look at both sides of the GMO debate, it's worth a read whether you're pro or anti GMO:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-truth-about-genetically-modified-food/

A couple of quotes from the article:

Critics often disparage U.S. research on the safety of genetically modified foods, which is often funded or even conducted by GM companies, such as Monsanto. But much research on the subject comes from the European Commission, the administrative body of the E.U., which cannot be so easily dismissed as an industry tool. The European Commission has funded 130 research projects, carried out by more than 500 independent teams, on the safety of GM crops. None of those studies found any special risks from GM crops.

Some scientists say the objections to GM food stem from politics rather than science—that they are motivated by an objection to large multinational corporations having enormous influence over the food supply; invoking risks from genetic modification just provides a convenient way of whipping up the masses against industrial agriculture. “This has nothing to do with science,” Goldberg says. “It's about ideology.” Former anti-GM activist Lynas agrees. He recently went as far as labeling the anti-GM crowd “explicitly an antiscience movement.”

Ever heard of "Golden Rice"? This is a genetically modified strain of rice which contains large amounts of vitamin A. Millions in poor countries die and go blind from vitamin A deficiency every year, so some clever people thought they'd make GM rice to try to help these people cheaply and effectively.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24515938

Unfortunately, anti-GM activists (like Greenpeace) have spread so much misinformation regarding this strain of rice, that crops are readily destroyed by locals, as they believe that they are dangerous. There has been no scientific evidence to show this, but groups like Greenpeace seem to think they know better.

Again, I don't like the idea that huge multinational corporations like Monsanto are so powerful that they can basically do what they want, filing patents and planting crops with no regard for local farmers etc.  And I think they do need to be careful with issues like cross-pollination.

But this idea that GM crops are inherently dangerous simply hasn't been proven - there is overwhelming evidence that they are safe.

And this idea that GM crops are part of some kind of global sterilization conspiracy is laughable - please show some real evidence for this if you can.

By the way, I try to eat as much organic, locally sourced food as I can. I think it generally tastes better and I like to support local farmers, even if it does cost me a bit more, and I don't like the idea of too many pesticides being used as it can affect the local eco-system, and supports huge chemical companies. But on the other hand I have no problems whatsoever with eating GM food. I have found that shitty processed food (like cheap white bread, and crap burgers/pizza/"meat") doesn't seem to agree with me, but this is down to how the food is manufactured and processed, not whether it contains GMO or not.

Gates is testing poisons in Africa.

I hope that soon will be end of USD as world currency, and that democracy will come into USA.
Now you have a very bad communism (you have 2 same political parties) without socialism.
It's very dangerus

You're right, I agree with your point of view.

[bythesea]

Lets face it, if that is remotely true being afraid now and bashing your head now is just pointless. Im 100% sure that I will be dead long before I hit old age ( 70s ) so changing my life and way i live it ( eating, drinking even if i don;t drink Coca-Cola exept Monster ) wont fix problems.

[Bit_Happy]

Lets face it, if that is remotely true being afraid now and bashing your head now is just pointless. Im 100% sure that I will be dead long before I hit old age ( 70s ) so changing my life and way i live it ( eating, drinking even if i don;t drink Coca-Cola exept Monster ) wont fix problems.

Enjoy your short life.
You will (probably) get what you desire.

[protokol]

Gates is testing poisons in Africa.

Source? And I don't mean a youtube video where a person says this, I mean a real, reputable source.

[Leogheo]

I don't think that GMO food is good for us!GMOs, are created when a gene from one species is transferred to another, creating something that would not be found in nature.What can\t be found in nature,is impossible to be digested by our body.....from here it starts all the illness,the weight problems,cancer..........GMOs are not the answer for global food security

Totally agree  with you but the problem is that there is too many people on the earth so it is impossible to feed everyone with good organic food! So GMO is like a decision on how to feed 7,000,000,000 people

[Schleicher]

... but the problem is that there is too many people on the earth so it is impossible to feed everyone with good organic food! So GMO is like a decision on how to feed 7,000,000,000 people

Um, no. There are better ways.
Better tools and better education for the poor farmers in africa for example.
Or stop throwing away 50% of all food.

[Bit_Happy]

... but the problem is that there is too many people on the earth so it is impossible to feed everyone with good organic food! So GMO is like a decision on how to feed 7,000,000,000 people

Um, no. There are better ways.
Better tools and better education for the poor farmers in africa for example.
Or stop throwing away 50% of all food.

Yes, GMO is not the best solution.
Much of the GMO is about power, money, and control of choices.

[counter]

Many I hope every post in this thread is showing full support to the OP because anything else seems like it would be somewhat a waste of time to me, generally speaking.