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May 04, 2019, 05:34:04 AM
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What happened:: The user "sellinglegandaryaccount" is trying to sell a green trusted legendary account all over the forum.

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2592662

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138657.msg50869259#msg50869259
Amount Scammed: possibly >500€
Payment Method: -
Proof of Payment: -
PM/Chat Logs: -
Additional Notes: Is translating his post in various other languages and posting it on local boards.
Additional reference links: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138637.msg50868578#msg50868578
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138648.msg50868968#msg50868968
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138650.msg50869070#msg50869070


Oh, screenie ofc:



Account sellers are not to be trusted - especially when it's about high ranked accounts.
Probably he is not even the owner of the account.

DT, please tag him.

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May 04, 2019, 05:39:38 AM
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Account sellers are not to be trusted - especially when it's about high ranked accounts.
Probably he is not even the owner of the account.
There is a chance that the owner of the legendary account is another person so cant tag that legendary account but the person who posted account sale topic has been tagged to avoid scam or discourage scammer.
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May 04, 2019, 05:49:50 AM
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Account sellers are not to be trusted - especially when it's about high ranked accounts.
Probably he is not even the owner of the account.
There is a chance that the owner of the legendary account is another person so cant tag that legendary account but the person who posted account sale topic has been tagged to avoid scam or discourage scammer.

I think that chance is 100%.  Wink

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May 04, 2019, 07:53:46 AM
Last edit: May 04, 2019, 05:41:37 PM by logfiles
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I did some research and the Most likely profile being sold is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81795.

Summary:
1. The account has been very activity over the last couple of years like it used to be, probably more reason for the owner to sell it.
2. Account hasn't changed email or password accounting to Metalog as of today and the posting style to hasn't changed since it was created
3. Owner seems to know German language well and some bit of Spanish too... Perhaps he was using google translate for to post in Spanish



PROOF
1. Sales Announcement:
Account is proven to be of a known German Local Board regular, First sell announcement was made in the German Local Board

2. Trust Score
Very likely to have been altered through HTML editing to make members chase a dead end.
Could have been due to different trust settings
I suppose this depends on Trust settings. I see bernard75' trust score as 10 at this moment.
3. Activity and posts
Initials of activity and post on the screenshot of the account being sold are both 1 and 2 just like on the profile of bernard75 which are 1316 and 2190 respectively.

4. Merit
Also likely to have been altered through HTML editing to make members chase a dead end.
Thanks to Veleor, user recently received merit as pointed out
I don't think this is a tricky attempt to confuse members.
Possibly, the difference between merit amount is due to the fact that account seller posted a screenshot of the profile with 1000 merit, and after that bernard75 received 2 additional merit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=81795 (BPIP)

5. Date Registered
Account on the screenshot: 00-02-2013, 12:02:43
Suspected account on sale: 18-02-2013, 12:02:43

6. Avatar
The avatar on the account in the screenshot is the same as the one the suspected account is bearing.
Quick question thou, How many legendary members have that kind of avatar?

7. Signature
No signature for both profiles

8. Last active
At the time of the announcement, the account on sale was showing online or at-least was last active in the last few minutes before the announcement.
- Last active of suspected account (Bernard75)


- Last active of account seller (sellinglegandaryaccount)


There is a 9 minute difference between the last activity of the 2 accounts

9. Screenshot Comparison

   



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May 04, 2019, 09:40:44 AM
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I think this is more of a reputation thing than a scam accusation since no one was scammed. OP you can move it to the reputations board so that some DT members can look into it.

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Impressive detective work, after looking through your reply... chances are high that it could be the account being sold. Let's wait, see what other people think about it.





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May 04, 2019, 10:08:28 AM
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I think this is more of a reputation thing than a scam accusation since no one was scammed. OP you can move it to the reputations board so that some DT members can look into it.

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Impressive detective work, after looking through your reply... chances are high that it could be the account being sold. Let's wait, see what other people think about it.

Hmmm well i am accusing him of scamming people (or trying to scam people), so i believe this is the proper board.

Since we don't know if the legendary account is actually involved in this, his / her reputation can't be the topic. (correct me if i'm wrong)

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May 04, 2019, 10:17:02 AM
Last edit: May 04, 2019, 11:15:35 AM by Veleor
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I asked account trader about 'bernard75': https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138657.msg50891179#msg50891179

This will discourage potential buyers from purchasing the profile, I guess.




2. Trust Score
Very likely to have been altered through HTML editing to make members chase a dead end.
I suppose this depends on Trust settings. I see bernard75' trust score as 10 at this moment.




4. Merit
Also likely to have been altered through HTML editing to make members chase a dead end.
I don't think this is a tricky attempt to confuse members.
Possibly, the difference between merit amount is due to the fact that account seller posted a screenshot of the profile with 1000 merit, and after that bernard75 received 2 additional merit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=81795 (BPIP)


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May 04, 2019, 11:56:38 AM
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I did some research and the Most likely profile being sold is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81795.

This account couldn't tag by depend on suspicion. Need strong evidence before tag this kind of account. If seller use screenshots of my account and unfortunately I changed password then should I got tag?

Tagged seller, I don't don't think he/she have any green trust account for sell. His/her intention is just scam people's. Green trust could be removed any time by the way. Because most of time I follow that person where I left positive feedback's. I would like to remove positive feedback's when I will noticed any suspicious activity from that profile. So its just a scam trap.





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May 04, 2019, 12:17:21 PM
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WTF?!?

Do you guys get off on that?

Anyway, thats not mine, but astonishingly close.
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May 04, 2019, 12:24:36 PM
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Anyway, thats not mine, but astonishingly close.
Please prove this by sending me a pm from the account you're selling.

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May 04, 2019, 12:32:05 PM
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Anyone may tell that the person will sell a legendary account and the seller may provide few criteria or screenshot which seems to be theymos, so should we tag, theymos?
We cant tag until any strong evidence.
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You have provided a lot of info which is matching with the so-called selling account but what is the evidence that the seller is the real owner of that account and/or any other legendary account. There is a lot of scammers and they can say anything as I said first.
Anyway, thats not mine, but astonishingly close.
If that's not you then what's your problem?
Anyway, thats not mine, but astonishingly close.
Please prove this by sending me a pm from the account you're selling.
If you (sellinglegandaryaccount) are afraid to send LoyceMobile your account details then you may send that to (LoyceV).
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May 04, 2019, 12:54:48 PM
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Thanks for your effort, sorry but I do not think screenshot can be considered sufficient proof. Even if all of its parts are clear. (I can simply edit the image after it is captured or modified from the browser.)
As for trust, it is different if this user has modified their trust list.
Anyway, that account (bernard75) is a DT member so I assume that (@sellinglegandaryaccount) is a scammer because the account will cost much more.


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May 04, 2019, 01:17:56 PM
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What?
How the fuck do i get involved in this BS?

For future references, get a job noobs.
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May 04, 2019, 01:20:26 PM
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How the fuck do i get involved in this BS?
Easy: anyone can screenshot any account and claim to sell it. It doesn't mean anything.

The day someone claims to be selling my account will be the day I tag an account seller!

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May 04, 2019, 01:21:45 PM
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Maybe a little harsh, but shit like this really pisses me off.

If i wouldnt have been contacted by PM, i would never know of this BS.
Who knows what other shit is floating about me here?

My account is not for sale! Tripple Xmark!!!
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May 04, 2019, 01:25:11 PM
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If all information can be matched even we cant call the person who is selling the account is the real owner of the mentioned account and/or any other account as s/he can claim anything butwecant call him/her real owner until s/he can proof his/her ownership.

Maybe a little harsh, but shit like this really pisses me off.

If i wouldnt have been contacted by PM, i would never know of this BS.

My account is not for sale! Tripple Xmark!!!
I think those people who are trying to find out matching information just wasting time nothing else. As I can post by a newbie account that account of you will be sold, so what will happen? Does that mean you are responsible?
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May 04, 2019, 01:38:10 PM
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Now, hold your horses.

Why should i be responsible for some noob?
And btw who can prove he is scamming?

And please dont drag me into this.
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May 04, 2019, 01:43:15 PM
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Why should i be responsible for some noob?
Yes, I think you are not responsible for that and you should not be responsible for that.

And btw who can prove he is scamming?
S/he is selling account which can increase scam, spam. And once s/he will sell the account and the account will be tagged and after tagging the account will the seller return the money? The seller knows very well that account will be tagged that's why not posting from the real account or s/he has no legendary account.
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And just btw isnt Thermos selling copper accounts officially?
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If i wouldnt have been contacted by PM, i would never know of this BS.
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