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May 04, 2019, 08:36:03 AM Last edit: October 05, 2020, 10:35:33 AM by LoyceV |
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I encourage anyone to create their own custom Trust list!
This subject came up in DefaultTrust changes: I often find users who completely wiped their custom trust list. This is the opposite of what should happen for a decentralized trust system. I don't want to PM them about it, but it would be nice to hear the reasoning behind it.
How frequently is this happening? Maybe you can publish a list of who wiped their list (and who wiped all their inclusions) each week on loyce.club There's enough data to justify a new topic, so here it is. DisclaimerI didn't keep userIDs for the first 2 weeks, and back then I had a hard time with some of the usernames. I pulled some tricks, so those weeks might be incomplete. The rest of the data should be complete. I started keeping track of data at the end of January, so "week 1" uses the Trust data dump which was available on January 25. I missed the first two data dumps right after the DefaultTrust changes, and don't have any older data either. If a user gets Nuked, their Trust list shows up as Wiped. No spam pleaseI said please: stay on topic. The listWeek 2 (2019-01-29_Tue_08.13h) NEW 9645: mich (8 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 147451: klaaas ( 14 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 324153: knobson (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 335282: naska21 ( 10 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 379203: logictense (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 385855: Patatas ( 66 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 392646: AverageGlabella ( 253 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 504943: synthgauge (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 689486: Pulithey1986 (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 840028: TeMHuK (9 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 878192: zloy_hulk (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 880238: Angelo Santos (2 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 937790: Bibite (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 980168: EvRo74 (9 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 986781: imhoneer ( 90 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1045451: EmmaGene (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1051955: roycilik ( 434 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1111161: A_Creature (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1129231: niteroy ( 16 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1160000: translocated (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1169571: yarelydiaz (5 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1176097: jonemil24 ( 46 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1202061: chimk ( 193 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1270987: yurez83 ( 16 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1273614: MARC-KALAAT (0 Merit earned) ( 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Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 84866: ibminer ( 326 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 318030: shdvb (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Week 3 (2019-02-03_Sun_00.08h) NEW 81995: peloso ( 61 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 162265: alabamafan1 (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 357196: CoinFoxs (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 580327: eddie13 ( 344 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 840084: VINSIN ( 36 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 902465: niceboy999 (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 906005: endlasuresh (3 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 914465: crwth ( 64 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 942063: Heritagesports (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 986242: be.open ( 94 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1018592: Sancho18 ( 22 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1046531: DutchFinity (2 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1061461: Danica22 (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1117673: mamoun (2 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1118580: maksinho (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1159421: akril212 (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1180530: theyoungmillionaire ( 555 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1221775: ac2eugenio (1 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1246188: Bazinga442 ( 21 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1316028: Deena ( 37 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1347876: Jedgar (5 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1543268: bitebtc (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1575639: mr.creampie ( 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May 04, 2019, 08:24:21 PM |
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I start thinking that you need your own subsection in meta soon. Theymos should consider this possibility. Something like LoyceV's AI Research Center. You have already enough data to fill a subsection Damn, I'm out of smerit again. I'll come back when I get some more.
P.S. don't merit me because of ^, I'm no beggar.
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May 11, 2019, 03:43:20 PM |
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What happen to trust list if user got banned? Is it automatically wiped or it remain in place?
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May 11, 2019, 03:48:02 PM |
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What happen to trust list if user got banned? Is it automatically wiped or it remain in place?
Nothing happens to their Trust list, I think they can still vote for DT1 too (but they can't become DT1 anymore).
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May 11, 2019, 03:58:38 PM |
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I think they can still vote for DT1 too (but they can't become DT1 anymore).
In this case, you mean the member who made a trust list before he got banned will work towards the DT1 vote in future? Just trying to collect as much info as possible... you know the reason.
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May 11, 2019, 05:42:07 PM |
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I think they can still vote for DT1 too (but they can't become DT1 anymore).
In this case, you mean the member who made a trust list before he got banned will work towards the DT1 vote in future? Yes, there votes would still stand as per the merits earned, even if they were banned. But I am sure they are also able to edit there trust list if needed.
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May 25, 2019, 08:18:36 AM |
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Two established users (one of them DT1) have wiped their custom Trust list in the past week. I can only assume they're done with the drama involved, which is really a pity.
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I can only assume they're done with the drama involved, which is really a pity. Can't say I blame them. I've been pretty much avoiding all the threads in Meta and Reputation recently. Most of the "feuds" are based off stupid things that have nothing to do with trust, and just result in escalating numbers of red tags. This endless drama does nothing to help the forum, and most of the drama could be solved if people reached for the ignore button instead of the negative trust button.
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Many users created a new Trust list in the past week: What's interesting, is that many users on this list included several of the same users. EFS for instance now has 9 new inclusions, but since he only has 2 inclusions on his own Trust list, he can't be elected for DT1. Note: EFS is a Staff member and had many inclusions already. This seems to be based on Türk lokal forumu için DT üyeleri seçiyoruz (Google Translate: "We choose DT members for the Turkish local forum"). I didn't expect a "local election" to pop up on my list of newly created Trust lists :D Note that this is exactly how the system is intended to work, so this (alone) shouldn't be a reason to start excluding users.
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June 08, 2019, 09:21:34 AM |
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More users are creating a custom Trust list, and just like last week, several of them have quite similar Trust lists again. devidLeench wiped his Trust list at the same time his little circle of alt-accounts all removed him too. He was already busted for abusing alts, this just confirms it again.
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June 15, 2019, 06:06:48 PM |
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In the past week, 4 DT1-members have wiped their Trust list. This is probably caused by the drama that followed after theymos introduced Trust flags:
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In the past week, 4 DT1-members have wiped their Trust list. This is probably caused by the drama that followed after theymos introduced Trust flags: Three of the four DT1 users who wiped their list are closely associated with Lauda, and likely did this to support lauda. minifrij has previously told me that he doesn't want to be in DT at all: reference. [...]I have no real interest in being a part of the DefaultTrust system, but I'm not going to put the energy in to remove myself from it.
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In the past week, 4 DT1-members have wiped their Trust list. This is probably caused by the drama that followed after theymos introduced Trust flags: Three of the four DT1 users who wiped their list are closely associated with Lauda, and likely did this to support lauda. minifrij has previously told me that he doesn't want to be in DT at all: reference. [...]I have no real interest in being a part of the DefaultTrust system, but I'm not going to put the energy in to remove myself from it. I have been DT1 for years and just do not want to deal with it anymore...too much drama. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153678.msg51446619#msg51446619
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In the past week, 4 DT1-members have wiped their Trust list. This is probably caused by the drama that followed after theymos introduced Trust flags: Three of the four DT1 users who wiped their list are closely associated with Lauda, and likely did this to support lauda. minifrij has previously told me that he doesn't want to be in DT at all: reference. [...]I have no real interest in being a part of the DefaultTrust system, but I'm not going to put the energy in to remove myself from it. I have been DT1 for years and just do not want to deal with it anymore...too much drama. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153678.msg51446619#msg51446619Gotcha. I hadn't seen that post. Thanks for clarifying that up
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In the past week, 4 DT1-members have wiped their Trust list. This is probably caused by the drama that followed after theymos introduced Trust flags: Three of the four DT1 users who wiped their list are closely associated with Lauda, and likely did this to support lauda. minifrij has previously told me that he doesn't want to be in DT at all: reference. [...]I have no real interest in being a part of the DefaultTrust system, but I'm not going to put the energy in to remove myself from it. How the hell I would support Lauda if I wiped my trust list? I just deleted my custom trust list in other words I just resigned from my DT position. This is my way to protest against that political madness happening right now in the forum.
The breaking point was the confrontation between theymos and Lauda which escalated to such level, I guess it's already around meta and the reputation board, which made me rethink my position in the DTs. I don't want to choose a side in this case, both parties made mistakes but that was not the way to find solution. Fighting, using the DTs as a weapon and do everything hidden in PMs.
For me everything should be public, especially such confrontations, so I do not agree with both parties.
So people please, for the sake of the community, settle down your problems once and for all.
It's almost 2AM here, and I'm awake only because of this political drama.
P.S. I'll still serve the community one way or another.
For me everything should be public, especially such confrontations, so I do not agree with both parties.
I believe none of them intended this to be non public, since they contacted a huge list of people. The point being they just wanted to ensure that every recipient had knowledge of that message. As you can see it quickly became publics and a lot of meta drama is already going on related to this. This is true but I don't really have time for all the drama, this has to end somehow. I don't really need to read all these explanations why people tagged (now flagged) their long time fighting compadres, trowing shit at each other. I don't really want to choose a side because there you see, someone said one thing. If I have to take a side, I have to decide alone and find and read all those proven facts that someone is this or that. But I don't have time to concentrate on such things, no. Those fights are for years and most likely things are no real evidence of any crimes-accusations. If I wanted this I would probably have joined a party til now. I prefer to put my time in something more constructive. I still think theymos should have created a thread and sent a link to everyone instead of doing everything in PMs. Then Lauda came with his/her message with got me thinking that this is way too much for me and I don't want to be part of it. I just deleted my custom trust list in other words I just resigned from my DT position. This is my way to protest against that political madness happening right now in the forum. You can only resign from DT1, not from DT2. I hope you'll reconsider in time: DT1 needs users who don't like the "political madness", and I think you're one of them. May I suggest fighting the madness by ignoring it, and continue doing the right thing? Thank you for your kind words Loyce. I won't give up on the forum and the community. I continue the same way, no matter if I'm on DT1/DT2 or not. I didn't ask for this power it was given to me by the community, so I hope when things settle down I might join the DT1 again, if I'm still wanted.
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June 16, 2019, 12:38:02 AM |
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In the past week, 4 DT1-members have wiped their Trust list. This is probably caused by the drama that followed after theymos introduced Trust flags: Three of the four DT1 users who wiped their list are closely associated with Lauda, and likely did this to support lauda. minifrij has previously told me that he doesn't want to be in DT at all: reference. [...]I have no real interest in being a part of the DefaultTrust system, but I'm not going to put the energy in to remove myself from it. How the hell I would support Lauda if I wiped my trust list? I was not referring to you. But to answer your question, if someone received the PM from theymos, they could have wiped their trust list as a protest against being pressured to exclude lauda from their trust list. It would be a way of showing they would rather not participate in the DT system than exclude lauda. <-- this would be how someone could support lauda.
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June 16, 2019, 09:48:11 AM |
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I was not referring to you. But to answer your question, if someone received the PM from theymos, they could have wiped their trust list as a protest against being pressured to exclude lauda from their trust list. It would be a way of showing they would rather not participate in the DT system than exclude lauda. <-- this would be how someone could support lauda. I don't see how it will benefit Lauda in any way, I understand if I have excluded theymos, yeah then I support him/her. But what you suggest the only negative will be for the community.
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I was not referring to you. But to answer your question, if someone received the PM from theymos, they could have wiped their trust list as a protest against being pressured to exclude lauda from their trust list. It would be a way of showing they would rather not participate in the DT system than exclude lauda. <-- this would be how someone could support lauda. There you go again, speculating on why people do certain things that you can't figure out. You are fucking mental, get back on the meds and stop making shit up to fit your fucked up wacky ass agenda. Edit - Did you ever even consider the fact that many users don't want to even deal with, nor have the time for, ANY of this trust bullshit anymore? Did you even consider that "angle"?
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But to answer your question, if someone received the PM from theymos, they could have wiped their trust list as a protest against being pressured to exclude lauda from their trust list. It would be a way of showing they would rather not participate in the DT system than exclude lauda. <-- this would be how someone could support lauda.
I didn't receive the PM, but Lauda's quarrels with the flags system aren't really of interest to me. Lauda seems to have worked out the immediate issues they had with theymos anyway. My reasons are the following: - Having a custom trust list did very little for me. The difference between DT and the trust system with my list was a matter of 1 or 2 ratings most of the time. It wasn't worth the effort of having to maintain, or even think about the list.
- Having a custom trust list did very little for anyone else. The majority of people that have me on their list either trust the people on my list too or trust other people that trust the people on my list, so my trust list did very little to change the ratings people saw.
- I'm not DT1, nor do I want to be, and so my trust list has very little to do with any sort of voting.
- I think that the flags system is just further complicating an already complicated system with a questionable amount of benefit. I can't say I fully support it, so wiping my trust list is kind of my way of showing that.
- The reason stated in my PM to you.
tl;dr I don't think the trust system in it's current form is the best (but I think that anyone would struggle to make it any better). That, and my impact in the system being low, made it not worth the time or effort to think about and maintain my list.
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July 13, 2019, 11:02:57 AM Last edit: July 13, 2019, 11:14:24 AM by LoyceV |
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I've updated the list. The most noticeable change: Lauda wiped his/her Trust list:
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Update: The most noticeable change this week is that ibminer (who wiped his trust list in Week 2) has created a new one:
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August 03, 2019, 09:15:00 AM |
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Update!The most noticeable change this week is that minerjones created a custom Trust list again (although only to exclude 2 users):
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August 17, 2019, 08:34:00 AM |
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Update: Not many users created their first Trust list this week. Reminder: if you haven't done it yet, do it! It's the only way to decentralize Trust.
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Did you ever even consider the fact that many users don't want to even deal with, nor have the time for, ANY of this trust bullshit anymore?
I still feel a bit guilty about not really using my trust list. I've only got 13 entries, and I should probably update it. My difficulty is that I'm a bit pre-conditioned to think of it as a trading reputation report, and I've only made a couple of small trades here. Both of those were simple purchases of Bitcoin from a Legendary member. As one would expect, they were both problem free. I was asked to remove a couple of my old entries, as the community felt that their behaviour breached certain community standards - trading in accounts for example. My entry was based on a personal assessment that they would complete any trade honestly, and without any problems. It's the apparent dual purpose of the trust system which makes it difficult for me to select members. Just because you aren't in my trust list, it doesn't mean that I don't trust you.
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August 24, 2019, 01:11:46 PM |
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Update: A few familiar names created a Trust list (again):
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August 24, 2019, 01:35:59 PM |
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I asked for this, and you delivered, per usual..thx Loyce! Even though I know it’s going against your wishes, which I feel bad about, you know why I wiped mine. Same reason as I suspect almost every single other user did..the drama. Not worth it.
Thought..wouldn’t creating a trust list create MORE centralization? Isn’t DT a bit of centralization?
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LoyceV (OP)
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August 24, 2019, 01:52:11 PM |
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Thought..wouldn’t creating a trust list create MORE centralization? Isn’t DT a bit of centralization? I'll respond with another thought: You could make a Trust list including only people who aren't on DT yet.
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September 07, 2019, 01:46:44 PM |
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Update: It's noteworthy that this user only emptied his Trust inclusions, but not his exclusions: Last of the V8s ( Trust: +4 / =0 / -1) ( 1760 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP)
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LoyceV (OP)
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September 14, 2019, 03:53:31 PM |
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Update! I see several familiar names who created or wiped their Trust list:
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September 28, 2019, 08:57:08 AM |
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Update: I recognize only one name: CryptoSparks created a custom Trust list just so it looks like his Trust is not negative:
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Hey, it's me again. Sorry, I have been stalking your profile, but you seem to have scraped lot of information from this forum. Where are you running these scripts and what is the point of all these scripts? I am super sorry, but I am new to this forum, and I see merit, the trust which I have no idea what it stands and what's its purpose.
Just had a small question are you visiting through every single page/posts on this forum and scraping information? I'm asking because nowadays many people do not spend so much time scraping it themselves and they often outsource it. Your work seems incredible. I will love to discuss with you if you are fine with it
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LoyceV (OP)
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May 16, 2020, 09:23:21 AM |
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In the past week, 19 users (including 14 banned users) have added Lafu to their Trust list. Most or all of them must be alt accounts. I don't know why they did this.
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Yeah i have seen this today as i checked your updated list. Dont know what is going on with them as the most are banned and also was tagged from me in the past and also they got flaggs that I supported. Possible that they want to exclude me with that. Im in work now and will put them all on my distrust list laters when i am at home.
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LoyceV (OP)
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May 16, 2020, 10:56:12 AM |
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will put them all on my distrust list laters when i am at home. If they're banned and haven't left any feedback, I wouldn't bother
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Ok will look more into it when im back at home. Little strange that they doing that as the most of them banned. Would be good and nice if banned users dont can do that anymore. Just saw it and would be just give an Statement about it. Thx LoyceV
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LoyceV (OP)
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May 16, 2020, 11:12:37 AM |
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Would be good and nice if banned users dont can do that anymore. I think it's intentional: banned users can still read the forum, and their own Trust list influences how they see other users. So it makes sense they can still change it.
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Most or all of them must be alt accounts.
I can confirm that the five of them whom I already knew about and had on my distrust list are almost certainly alts. I don't know about the others.
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In the past week, 19 users (including 14 banned users) have added Lafu to their Trust list. Most or all of them must be alt accounts. I don't know why they did this. all of the banned users belong to korner, aka Bitcoin SV, as well as some of the non-banned ones: Accounts Bitcoin Cash, binance.com, Alfabank which opposing the warning in the Bitcoin SV profile most likely belong to one massive farm rig. <...> 01) October 27, 2018, 01:59:01 PM - password changed [ BPIP] mtgox.com02) October 27, 2018, 01:53:41 PM - password changed [ BPIP] binance.com03) October 27, 2018, 01:51:11 PM - password changed [ BPIP] Anti Bitcoin04) October 27, 2018, 01:26:38 PM - password changed [ BPIP] Ethereum Classic05) October 27, 2018, 01:06:47 PM - password changed [ BPIP] Bitcoin Gold06) October 27, 2018, 11:42:41 AM - woke up [ BPIP] ne0n07) October 27, 2018, 11:05:10 AM - password changed [ BPIP] Bitcoin Cash08) October 27, 2018, 10:49:31 AM - password changed [ BPIP] Bitcoin SV09) October 27, 2018, 10:20:58 AM - password changed [ BPIP] WEX_OFFICIAL10) October 27, 2018, 10:11:35 AM - password changed [ BPIP] Sakasara11) October 27, 2018, 09:38:44 AM - password changed [ BPIP] Kryptoart12) October 27, 2018, 09:25:20 AM - password changed [ BPIP] anna.mayzus banned13) October 27, 2018, 08:19:41 AM - password changed [ BPIP] Sara Parker14) October 27, 2018, 08:13:20 AM - password changed [ BPIP] Scamer15) October 27, 2018, 08:06:58 AM - password changed [ BPIP] Skammer16) October 27, 2018, 07:58:00 AM - password changed [ BPIP] Anti Scam17) October 27, 2018, 07:41:01 AM - password changed [ BPIP] CKAMEP18) October 27, 2018, 07:29:56 AM - password changed [ BPIP] ERC-72119) October 27, 2018, 07:17:01 AM - password changed [ BPIP] ERC-223 banned20) October 27, 2018, 06:57:46 AM - password changed [ BPIP] WORLD_EXCHANGE_SERVICES21) October 27, 2018, 06:48:59 AM - password changed [ BPIP] wex.com22) October 27, 2018, 06:42:42 AM - password changed [ BPIP] WEX-UNOFFICIAL banned23) October 27, 2018, 06:35:59 AM - password changed [ BPIP] btc-e.nz banned24) October 27, 2018, 06:26:43 AM - password changed [ BPIP] Alfabank25) October 27, 2018, 06:07:34 AM - password changed [ BPIP] RACIB banned26) October 27, 2018, 05:58:26 AM - password changed [ BPIP] novacoin.org27) October 27, 2018, 05:36:46 AM - password changed [ BPIP] Trollface banned28) October 27, 2018, 05:28:53 AM - password changed [ BPIP] wex.nz banned29) October 27, 2018, 05:24:02 AM - password changed [ BPIP] Anti-Bitcoin banned30) October 27, 2018, 05:15:23 AM - password changed [ BPIP] Polizei banned31) October 27, 2018, 05:08:48 AM - password changed [ BPIP] korner<...>
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May 16, 2020, 01:32:40 PM |
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In the past week, 19 users (including 14 banned users) have added Lafu to their Trust list. Most or all of them must be alt accounts. I don't know why they did this. all of the banned users belong to korner, aka Bitcoin SV, as well as some of the non-banned ones: As I posted in the other thread, korner is peloso's buddy (vehemently defends peloso on the Russian board) and a known troll so 2+2 = trying to frame Lafu with some "trust abuse". B oбщeм. Пoдвeдeм итoги. Peloso - нeoтъeмлeмaя чacть фopyмa и yвaжaeмый cтapoжил. Heoбxoдимo пpинять к cвeдeнию eгo дoвoды. Игнopиpoвaниe дaннoй пpoблeмaтики вeдeт eщe к ycyгyблeнию и paзpoзнeннocти в лoкaли. Bыcлyшaйтe eгo, фopyм ecть квopyм, чeлoвeк выcкaзывaeтcя - фopyм cлyшaeт, a нe зaтыкaeт. Игнopиpoвaниe - пpoтивopeчит пpинципy фopyмнocти.
Дeйcтвитeльнo зaмaлчивaниe тoгo фaктa чтo Лayдa нe oчeнь xopoший чeлoвeк и мнoгo кoгo зaбpaкoвaлa - этo вaжнaя пpoблeмaтикa и тeмa для oбcyждeния
Translation: "Peloso is an irreplaceable part of this forum and a respected old-timer..." and that's been going on for pages and pages in the Russian trust discussion thread.
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May 16, 2020, 02:24:33 PM |
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, korner is peloso's buddy
stop this shit! how korner may be my buddy if i have 5 inactive flags from him ? and he always trolled me HOW?
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May 16, 2020, 02:55:21 PM |
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, korner is peloso's buddy
stop this shit! how korner may be my buddy if i have 5 inactive flags from him ? and he always trolled me HOW? Yet you're the one attacking Lafu with korner's help. If korner did it on his own I would believe that this has nothing to do with you. But you're helping him. Why?
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May 16, 2020, 03:02:41 PM |
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, korner is peloso's buddy
stop this shit! how korner may be my buddy if i have 5 inactive flags from him ? and he always trolled me HOW? Yet you're the one attacking Lafu with korner's help. If korner did it on his own I would believe that this has nothing to do with you. But you're helping him. Why? this is your sick fantasy ? or your IMO ? may be you have proofs that i help him ? why you not ask himself? i just saw it and warn it and no one help
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Looks like Last of the V8s is trying to emulate Peloso: (Hot on the heels of giving me distrust simply for asking him what his thoughts were in wanting to be a merit font). Not very trustworthy behaviour.
See also week 04, week 17, week 22, week 23, week 34 and week 35
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suchmoon
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June 15, 2020, 05:39:46 AM |
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Looks like Last of the V8s is trying to emulate Peloso
He's not in DT1. (Hot on the heels of giving me distrust simply for asking him what his thoughts were in wanting to be a merit font).
What does this have to do with you? Not very trustworthy behaviour.
Which part? He doesn't seem to be targeting anyone in particular.
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June 15, 2020, 06:15:29 AM |
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Looks like Last of the V8s is trying to emulate Peloso: (Hot on the heels of giving me distrust simply for asking him what his thoughts were in wanting to be a merit font). Not very trustworthy behaviour.
"Giving you distrust"... what does that mean? If you mean he added you to his exclusions list, he did that before you confronted him about it in his merit source application thread. (sorry Loyce for cluttering you thread, I won't respond any further here -- just wanted to point out something for other readers)
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He's not in DT1.
Nice deflection... but no suchmoon; wrong again. http://loyce.club/trust/ranking/479624.htmlSure does look like your pal qualifies to me. Last of the V8s (Trust: +8 / =0 / -1) (3324 Merit earned) is trusted by the following users (in order of Merit voting power; users with less than 10 earned Merit are ignored): 1. El duderino_ (Trust: +26 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 3642 Merit earned) 2. nutildah (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (2337 Merit earned) 3. LFC_Bitcoin (Trust: +17 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 2315 Merit earned) 4. DireWolfM14 (Trust: +18 / =1 / -0) (1735 Merit earned) 5. TMAN (Trust: +28 / =1 / -3) (1303 Merit earned) 6. mindrust (Trust: neutral) (DT1 (-8) 1021 Merit earned) 7. bitserve (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (915 Merit earned) 8. Royse777 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (860 Merit earned) 9. Raja_MBZ (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (871 Merit earned) 10. kenzawak (Trust: +0 / =1 / -12) (841 Merit earned) 11. Globb0 (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (830 Merit earned) 12. Bthd (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 696 Merit earned) 13. BitcoinGirl.Club (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (680 Merit earned) 14. bitebits (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (401 Merit earned) 15. MagicByt3 (Trust: neutral) (385 Merit earned) 16. DeathAngel (Trust: neutral) (273 Merit earned) 17. psycodad (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (200 Merit earned) 18. Kylapoiss (Trust: neutral) (187 Merit earned) 19. peloso (Trust: +3 / =3 / -3) (DT1 (-10) 168 Merit earned) 20. Bazinga442 (Trust: +0 / =0 / -6) (24 Merit earned) 21. H8bussesNbicycles (Trust: +0 / =1 / -10) (10 Merit earned) 22. Zin-Zang (Trust: +0 / =1 / -6) (11 Merit earned)
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My mistake - what I should have said was: The user Last of the V8s u=479624 was asked to canvas my questions covering their desire to be a merit font. When he had his moment to shine in the sun, what followed was a Show Pony attack on the work that I have done on BCT without providing any proof to give credence to his assertions. He seems to be prepared to do or say anything to grandstand to his fellow gang members. https://archive.vn/92BrR#selection-2427.0-2429.15 Memo to @LoyceV there is no BBcode on that page... Post 5,799
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June 15, 2020, 07:54:00 AM |
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He's not in DT1.
Nice deflection... but no suchmoon; wrong again. You can see a current list of DT1 users here. You'll notice that Last of the V8s isn't on that list. Or this evidence of some even deeper conspiracy?
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LoyceV (OP)
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June 15, 2020, 08:57:55 AM |
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Looks like Last of the V8s is trying to emulate Peloso Peloso did much worse: Not very trustworthy behaviour. I wouldn't call only making some changes to your Trust list untrustworthy. It would be a different story if it includes a PM to all users asking to include him too, and so far I haven't received such a PM. I think most users didn't even notice the inclusion. I didn't notice it myself until you posted it here (I overlooked the "NEW" in the long list): (sorry Loyce for cluttering you thread, It's okay, this topic doesn't get much discussion anyway, and it doesn't interfere with my weekly updates.
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Timelord2067
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June 15, 2020, 09:11:14 AM |
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Hey thanks for your reply and analysis, it's appreciated. As I said in my post, this user is wanting to become a merit font - which down the track could be used as a means to repay being voted up here and now. In theory at least.
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June 15, 2020, 09:29:40 AM |
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(sorry Loyce for cluttering you thread, It's okay, this topic doesn't get much discussion anyway, and it doesn't interfere with my weekly updates. OK well in that case I have one more thing to add. As I said in my post, this user is wanting to become a merit font - which down the track could be used as a means to repay being voted up here and now. In theory at least.
No, it won't. Not even in theory, because people don't "vote" for merit sources. Everyone who endorsed V8s genuinely believes he would be a good merit source and are endorsing him because they think he deserves the position. I don't even understand why you posted here as V8's didn't create or wipe his trust list last week.
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LoyceV (OP)
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June 15, 2020, 09:36:44 AM |
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this user is wanting to become a merit font - which down the track could be used as a means to repay being voted up here and now. Maybe. Maybe some people added me to their Trust list because I've sent 13239 Merit to 1744 users in 6624 transactions. With 206 Trust inclusions, it's probably even likely one or more users added me for the wrong reasons. But that's not something I can stop, nor is it something I'll change my Trust list or Merit habits for. Come to think of it, it's also likely some users get excluded because they Merit certain posts.
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Timelord2067
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June 15, 2020, 05:16:34 PM |
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I'm glad I could bring your attention to it - be sure to check out the previous weeks that I mentioned to build up a clearer picture (you're even added then dropped then added again)
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June 15, 2020, 06:37:58 PM |
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Looks like Last of the V8s is trying to emulate Peloso Peloso did much worse: you lie again mr elk but i not have time to explain you and other morons
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Timelord2067
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October 04, 2020, 03:09:16 AM Last edit: October 04, 2020, 03:52:09 AM by Timelord2067 |
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Might be worth mentioning the new kid on the block who seems to have added all one hundred that were selected into DT1 this month.I saw someone else do the same thing a month or two back. It's an interesting strategy (especially if any engage in reciprocal trust-for-trust)*edit* Never mind, I've just seen that you've added the information in the post just above: *2nd edit* Pmalek has added just one user (who added them in week 58 with no other activity) Daniel91 has received 27 merits on 27 different occasions from Pmalek with just three merits going back the other way.
3rd edit, korner changed their one trust from lafu to ratimov in week 87, then removed ratimov this week. Ironically korner first trusted lafu in week 70 {1} and then a week later, lafu distrusted korner. {1} (basically it would seem korner woke up just to give lafu trust)
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LoyceV (OP)
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October 05, 2020, 10:30:47 AM |
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I needed a graph for another topic, but it fits here too: If a user gets Nuked, their Trust list shows up as Wiped.
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October 05, 2020, 01:19:36 PM |
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So far LoyceV is one of the most respectful and trusted guy around. His "job" to provide useful information like this to new members like me, making the forum way more useful and easy. Thank you LoyceV !
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October 29, 2020, 12:06:11 AM Last edit: May 16, 2023, 02:25:24 AM by Timelord2067 |
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Looks like blacknavy has pulled the plug: This must be the same as those other two ( dkbit98 and LoyceV ) who removed (temporarily) their DT trust lists. Has this user requested to be removed from DT1? When I hover on their BPIP DT1 icon, it reads "DT1 strength: 6"
Since that occurred, they've also received two more DT1 distrusts:
gumusi has also removed their distrust list: They weren't exactly off to a good start however:
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August 10, 2021, 06:10:15 PM |
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Looks like eddie13 has deleted their trust list
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LoyceV (OP)
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August 14, 2021, 06:00:24 PM |
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Looks like eddie13 has deleted their trust list Close: only satoshi is left.
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