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May 04, 2019, 08:36:03 AM Last edit: October 05, 2020, 10:35:33 AM by LoyceV |
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I encourage anyone to create their own custom Trust list!
This subject came up in DefaultTrust changes: I often find users who completely wiped their custom trust list. This is the opposite of what should happen for a decentralized trust system. I don't want to PM them about it, but it would be nice to hear the reasoning behind it.
How frequently is this happening? Maybe you can publish a list of who wiped their list (and who wiped all their inclusions) each week on loyce.club There's enough data to justify a new topic, so here it is. DisclaimerI didn't keep userIDs for the first 2 weeks, and back then I had a hard time with some of the usernames. I pulled some tricks, so those weeks might be incomplete. The rest of the data should be complete. I started keeping track of data at the end of January, so "week 1" uses the Trust data dump which was available on January 25. I missed the first two data dumps right after the DefaultTrust changes, and don't have any older data either. If a user gets Nuked, their Trust list shows up as Wiped. No spam pleaseI said please: stay on topic. The listWeek 2 (2019-01-29_Tue_08.13h) NEW 9645: mich (8 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 147451: klaaas ( 14 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 324153: knobson (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 335282: naska21 ( 10 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 379203: logictense (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 385855: Patatas ( 66 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 392646: AverageGlabella ( 253 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 504943: synthgauge (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 689486: Pulithey1986 (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 840028: TeMHuK (9 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 878192: zloy_hulk (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 880238: Angelo Santos (2 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 937790: Bibite (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 980168: EvRo74 (9 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 986781: imhoneer ( 90 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1045451: EmmaGene (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1051955: roycilik ( 434 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1111161: A_Creature (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1129231: niteroy ( 16 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1160000: translocated (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1169571: yarelydiaz (5 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1176097: jonemil24 ( 46 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1202061: chimk ( 193 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1270987: yurez83 ( 16 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1273614: MARC-KALAAT (0 Merit earned) ( 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Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 84866: ibminer ( 326 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 318030: shdvb (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Week 3 (2019-02-03_Sun_00.08h) NEW 81995: peloso ( 61 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 162265: alabamafan1 (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 357196: CoinFoxs (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 580327: eddie13 ( 344 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 840084: VINSIN ( 36 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 902465: niceboy999 (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 906005: endlasuresh (3 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 914465: crwth ( 64 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 942063: Heritagesports (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 986242: be.open ( 94 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1018592: Sancho18 ( 22 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1046531: DutchFinity (2 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1061461: Danica22 (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1117673: mamoun (2 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1118580: maksinho (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1159421: akril212 (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1180530: theyoungmillionaire ( 555 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1221775: ac2eugenio (1 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1246188: Bazinga442 ( 21 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1316028: Deena ( 37 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1347876: Jedgar (5 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1543268: bitebtc (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1575639: mr.creampie ( 10 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1575704: chickinini ( 11 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1575750: cryptorgasm (4 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1586404: TinaMoran ( 10 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1586457: Pablojob ( 10 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1586551: PiningGarcia ( 10 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1586585: PingGermoco ( 10 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1586656: NilaMutac ( 10 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1609508: cryptopov (4 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1658865: poypototoy ( 10 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1726595: nakamura12 ( 21 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1787337: Kriptopsina ( 77 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1788599: jademaxsuy ( 11 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1870454: Dasha Koshechkina (3 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 2005475: MNEX (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 2225530: presduterte ( 49 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 2375947: The Real Angelo Santos (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 2386549: Stinkfist666 (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 2405095: Agarthian (3 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 2471787: CODEX.ONE (1 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 2472107: H8bussesNbicycles (5 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 2533578: Valelevu (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 2536607: gwsukabokepjepang (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 377298: camelson (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 511692: BitcoinTurk ( 238 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 1137750: bavicrypto ( 21 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Week 4 (2019-02-12_Tue_19.34h) NEW 62456: louisBSAS (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 319234: Sniper76 (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 357487: Panthers52 (1 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 363432: KingZee ( 126 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 662293: fxpc ( 49 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 667916: Kemarit ( 123 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 759520: Jaz80 (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 845959: Darcius9 (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 888099: finaleshot2016 ( 163 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 963279: bobita ( 154 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1026915: Squishy01 ( 16 Merit 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Heisenberg (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 2535994: ito-marketing (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 119974: LimLims (2 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 335282: naska21 ( 10 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 1221775: ac2eugenio (1 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 1575639: mr.creampie ( 10 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 1586404: TinaMoran ( 10 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 1586656: NilaMutac ( 10 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Week 5 (2019-02-16_Sat_13.06h) NEW 138833: allyouracid ( 25 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 346731: minerjones ( 517 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 454322: adzino (7 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 459892: 77kdub (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 984587: cctothemass (8 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1094569: mosprognoz ( 27 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1112979: yura04071989 (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1179651: sheenshane ( 46 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1781771: Mbitr (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1838479: VITALION (1 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 2142027: Suvnikki (7 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 2327232: Muniba (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 2532682: Fatima maataoui (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 62358: Gyrsur ( 86 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 76380: escrow.ms (4 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 357487: Panthers52 (1 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 667916: Kemarit ( 123 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 787736: marlboroza ( 655 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 1046531: DutchFinity (2 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 1788599: jademaxsuy ( 12 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Week 6 (2019-02-25_Mon_21.39h) NEW 133846: monbux ( 18 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 350984: enhu (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 673663: chillfactr (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 861475: lebnor (1 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1059082: hugeblack ( 299 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1068482: eldrin ( 33 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1574226: mu_enrico ( 548 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1744006: BethLogins ( 10 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 1788599: jademaxsuy ( 12 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 2429921: TheBitcoinExplorer (1 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) NEW 2536236: BPERCRYPTO (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 495476: devil11 (0 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) Wiped 525056: BitMaxz ( 101 Merit earned) ( Trust feedback) ( Trust list) ( BPIP)
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May 04, 2019, 08:24:21 PM |
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I start thinking that you need your own subsection in meta soon. Theymos should consider this possibility. Something like LoyceV's AI Research Center. You have already enough data to fill a subsection Damn, I'm out of smerit again. I'll come back when I get some more.
P.S. don't merit me because of ^, I'm no beggar.
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May 11, 2019, 03:43:20 PM |
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What happen to trust list if user got banned? Is it automatically wiped or it remain in place?
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May 11, 2019, 03:48:02 PM |
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What happen to trust list if user got banned? Is it automatically wiped or it remain in place?
Nothing happens to their Trust list, I think they can still vote for DT1 too (but they can't become DT1 anymore).
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May 11, 2019, 03:58:38 PM |
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I think they can still vote for DT1 too (but they can't become DT1 anymore).
In this case, you mean the member who made a trust list before he got banned will work towards the DT1 vote in future? Just trying to collect as much info as possible... you know the reason.
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May 11, 2019, 05:42:07 PM |
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I think they can still vote for DT1 too (but they can't become DT1 anymore).
In this case, you mean the member who made a trust list before he got banned will work towards the DT1 vote in future? Yes, there votes would still stand as per the merits earned, even if they were banned. But I am sure they are also able to edit there trust list if needed.
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May 25, 2019, 08:18:36 AM |
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Two established users (one of them DT1) have wiped their custom Trust list in the past week. I can only assume they're done with the drama involved, which is really a pity.
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I can only assume they're done with the drama involved, which is really a pity. Can't say I blame them. I've been pretty much avoiding all the threads in Meta and Reputation recently. Most of the "feuds" are based off stupid things that have nothing to do with trust, and just result in escalating numbers of red tags. This endless drama does nothing to help the forum, and most of the drama could be solved if people reached for the ignore button instead of the negative trust button.
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June 01, 2019, 03:32:49 PM |
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Many users created a new Trust list in the past week: What's interesting, is that many users on this list included several of the same users. EFS for instance now has 9 new inclusions, but since he only has 2 inclusions on his own Trust list, he can't be elected for DT1. Note: EFS is a Staff member and had many inclusions already. This seems to be based on Türk lokal forumu için DT üyeleri seçiyoruz (Google Translate: "We choose DT members for the Turkish local forum"). I didn't expect a "local election" to pop up on my list of newly created Trust lists :D Note that this is exactly how the system is intended to work, so this (alone) shouldn't be a reason to start excluding users.
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June 08, 2019, 09:21:34 AM |
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More users are creating a custom Trust list, and just like last week, several of them have quite similar Trust lists again. devidLeench wiped his Trust list at the same time his little circle of alt-accounts all removed him too. He was already busted for abusing alts, this just confirms it again.
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June 15, 2019, 06:06:48 PM |
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In the past week, 4 DT1-members have wiped their Trust list. This is probably caused by the drama that followed after theymos introduced Trust flags:
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In the past week, 4 DT1-members have wiped their Trust list. This is probably caused by the drama that followed after theymos introduced Trust flags: Three of the four DT1 users who wiped their list are closely associated with Lauda, and likely did this to support lauda. minifrij has previously told me that he doesn't want to be in DT at all: reference. [...]I have no real interest in being a part of the DefaultTrust system, but I'm not going to put the energy in to remove myself from it.
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In the past week, 4 DT1-members have wiped their Trust list. This is probably caused by the drama that followed after theymos introduced Trust flags: Three of the four DT1 users who wiped their list are closely associated with Lauda, and likely did this to support lauda. minifrij has previously told me that he doesn't want to be in DT at all: reference. [...]I have no real interest in being a part of the DefaultTrust system, but I'm not going to put the energy in to remove myself from it. I have been DT1 for years and just do not want to deal with it anymore...too much drama. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153678.msg51446619#msg51446619
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June 15, 2019, 11:39:08 PM |
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In the past week, 4 DT1-members have wiped their Trust list. This is probably caused by the drama that followed after theymos introduced Trust flags: Three of the four DT1 users who wiped their list are closely associated with Lauda, and likely did this to support lauda. minifrij has previously told me that he doesn't want to be in DT at all: reference. [...]I have no real interest in being a part of the DefaultTrust system, but I'm not going to put the energy in to remove myself from it. I have been DT1 for years and just do not want to deal with it anymore...too much drama. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153678.msg51446619#msg51446619Gotcha. I hadn't seen that post. Thanks for clarifying that up
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June 16, 2019, 12:32:31 AM |
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In the past week, 4 DT1-members have wiped their Trust list. This is probably caused by the drama that followed after theymos introduced Trust flags: Three of the four DT1 users who wiped their list are closely associated with Lauda, and likely did this to support lauda. minifrij has previously told me that he doesn't want to be in DT at all: reference. [...]I have no real interest in being a part of the DefaultTrust system, but I'm not going to put the energy in to remove myself from it. How the hell I would support Lauda if I wiped my trust list? I just deleted my custom trust list in other words I just resigned from my DT position. This is my way to protest against that political madness happening right now in the forum.
The breaking point was the confrontation between theymos and Lauda which escalated to such level, I guess it's already around meta and the reputation board, which made me rethink my position in the DTs. I don't want to choose a side in this case, both parties made mistakes but that was not the way to find solution. Fighting, using the DTs as a weapon and do everything hidden in PMs.
For me everything should be public, especially such confrontations, so I do not agree with both parties.
So people please, for the sake of the community, settle down your problems once and for all.
It's almost 2AM here, and I'm awake only because of this political drama.
P.S. I'll still serve the community one way or another.
For me everything should be public, especially such confrontations, so I do not agree with both parties.
I believe none of them intended this to be non public, since they contacted a huge list of people. The point being they just wanted to ensure that every recipient had knowledge of that message. As you can see it quickly became publics and a lot of meta drama is already going on related to this. This is true but I don't really have time for all the drama, this has to end somehow. I don't really need to read all these explanations why people tagged (now flagged) their long time fighting compadres, trowing shit at each other. I don't really want to choose a side because there you see, someone said one thing. If I have to take a side, I have to decide alone and find and read all those proven facts that someone is this or that. But I don't have time to concentrate on such things, no. Those fights are for years and most likely things are no real evidence of any crimes-accusations. If I wanted this I would probably have joined a party til now. I prefer to put my time in something more constructive. I still think theymos should have created a thread and sent a link to everyone instead of doing everything in PMs. Then Lauda came with his/her message with got me thinking that this is way too much for me and I don't want to be part of it. I just deleted my custom trust list in other words I just resigned from my DT position. This is my way to protest against that political madness happening right now in the forum. You can only resign from DT1, not from DT2. I hope you'll reconsider in time: DT1 needs users who don't like the "political madness", and I think you're one of them. May I suggest fighting the madness by ignoring it, and continue doing the right thing? Thank you for your kind words Loyce. I won't give up on the forum and the community. I continue the same way, no matter if I'm on DT1/DT2 or not. I didn't ask for this power it was given to me by the community, so I hope when things settle down I might join the DT1 again, if I'm still wanted.
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