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June 03, 2025, 01:15:39 PM
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Do know what made previous event different from the rest? Except it has very weak card and it will be a crime to charge for such event Cheesy

Referee body cams has been returned. That a huge plus. Finally we will be able to see a little bit more. POV knockouts is something rare we see. I dont know why it took UFC so much time to put a cam on a ref. Pride had it years ago. Why do you think they add such feature? To bring viewers something new? Or POV is required to make a right decision?

I believe it is for both: both for the viewer to have new perspectives from inside the octagon and to help the judges make more detailed decisions or choices. And I have no doubt that soon these cameras will also be charged as part of the subscription as soon as possible.

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June 03, 2025, 01:34:58 PM
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You mean user had to pay additional to already paid 79,99 bucks to get extra from body cam? I hope UFC are not that greedy. Watching something from body cam should not be priced, as that material isnt aired live parallel. Video from body cam can be used for finishers highlight, or check if "grounded" rule isnt violated, possibly give point penalty for accident and intentional eye poke. Imho it should be used for help, instead of to make money.

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June 04, 2025, 07:16:24 AM
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As for my picks at first glance...

Harrison

What about you guys?

Whats your thought on Harris? This chick looks like she is on a steroids Cheesy Such a manly square chin, biceps are larger than mine Cheesy When she has her hair done in small braids, from side she looks like a man. How she is able to fit in bantamweight (61kg max) if she was competing in 78kg in judo all the time? Either she does extreme weight cutting, or I cant explain how she fits in 61kg with so many muscles. Since she has got 2 gold medals in Olympic games, been clean and managed to get down to 61kg without losing in shape, she probable has MBA degree in steroids Cheesy

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June 04, 2025, 12:25:13 PM
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^  Exactly why she's gonna win.  She's a total PED user.  Cheesy Cheesy  But seriously, I think she's just overall better than Pena.  And Pena's win vs Nunes back in the day is a fluke.  If they fight 10 times, Nunes will win prolly over 80% of them.  The 20% I will attribute to luck.

Out of those picks my most confident ones are Dvalishvili and Pyfer.

Anyway here's the vid for the pre fight press conference...  Will be in a couple of days.

UFC 316:  Pre Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR8-5sXj70c

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June 04, 2025, 01:37:12 PM
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^  Exactly why she's gonna win.  She's a total PED user.  Cheesy Cheesy  But seriously, I think she's just overall better than Pena.  And Pena's win vs Nunes back in the day is a fluke.  If they fight 10 times, Nunes will win prolly over 80% of them.  The 20% I will attribute to luck.

Out of those picks my most confident ones are Dvalishvili and Pyfer.

Anyway here's the vid for the pre fight press conference...  Will be in a couple of days.

UFC 316:  Pre Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR8-5sXj70c

But seriously, how come someone be 78kg at competition day, which means much heavy during off-season, then go down and compete in 61kg. From the way she looks, its not what 61kg look like with the height shes got. Less than 2 years ago she competed in PFL in women lightweight, which is 70kg. I think there is so much lie with her real weight. Pena vs Harrison fight on Russian MMA forum is called housewife vs genetic mutant fight, and expect it not to last longer than 2 rounds.

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June 04, 2025, 10:57:17 PM
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There was some fresh drama recently, when desperate Tom Aspinall, in an interview with Daniel Cormier and Chael Sonnen, announced Jon Jones' retirement, wished him all the best in life, and said it's time to move on:
https://talksport.com/mma/3256637/tom-aspinall-jon-jones-retired-ufc/

Around the same time, Jon Anik allegedly revealed that the fight is targeted to happen in December 2025:
https://mmauk.net/2025/06/02/jon-anik-reveals-ufc-plans-for-jon-jones-vs-tom-aspinall-fight-this-december/

It's good to have at least an expected date, but that's a bit late in my opinion. If I remember correctly, the initial plan was to schedule it for this summer, but given we're already in June, it's fair to say this won't happen.

And earlier today, there was a 'leak' (or just a made-up story made just for the views?) on what Jon Jones was offered for the fight. The article says he was offered $12 million, which is more than Brock Lesnar, GSP, or Ronda Rousey got for their highest-paid fights.
https://www.sportbible.com/mma/ufc/ufc-news/jon-jones-ufc-pay-tom-aspinall-leaked-828881-20250604

I guess it's not bad for the UFC, but I expected he would get at least twice as much.

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June 05, 2025, 09:57:54 AM
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I would not believe in anything told about Jones Jones, money and fight schedule Cheesy As that dude has got such a wildcard with UFC that is able to make his own plans and his employers adopts to Bones wishes. Worst part of that situation is that Aspinall is on a huge pause. Almost a year on a pause and had a fight that lasted only 1 minute... During last 2 years, Aspinall fought in total 3 minutes. If he continues like that, he would lose all his skills.

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June 05, 2025, 12:51:52 PM
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^  Exactly why she's gonna win.  She's a total PED user.  Cheesy Cheesy  But seriously, I think she's just overall better than Pena.  And Pena's win vs Nunes back in the day is a fluke.  If they fight 10 times, Nunes will win prolly over 80% of them.  The 20% I will attribute to luck.

Out of those picks my most confident ones are Dvalishvili and Pyfer.

Anyway here's the vid for the pre fight press conference...  Will be in a couple of days.

UFC 316:  Pre Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR8-5sXj70c

But seriously, how come someone be 78kg at competition day, which means much heavy during off-season, then go down and compete in 61kg. From the way she looks, its not what 61kg look like with the height shes got. Less than 2 years ago she competed in PFL in women lightweight, which is 70kg. I think there is so much lie with her real weight. Pena vs Harrison fight on Russian MMA forum is called housewife vs genetic mutant fight, and expect it not to last longer than 2 rounds.

Yeah dunno.  Lol.  I think Harrison will win but I wouldn't bet on it at 1.13.  Just too chalky for a women's MMA fight.  Sometimes all kinds of weird sht happens like Pena vs Nunes 1.  Cheesy Cheesy

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I would not believe in anything told about Jones Jones, money and fight schedule Cheesy As that dude has got such a wildcard with UFC that is able to make his own plans and his employers adopts to Bones wishes. Worst part of that situation is that Aspinall is on a huge pause. Almost a year on a pause and had a fight that lasted only 1 minute... During last 2 years, Aspinall fought in total 3 minutes. If he continues like that, he would lose all his skills.

That's why this isn't going to happen. So many times they have tried to arrange this fight to happen, they got older already and Jones knows he isn't the way he used to. The guy won't give up his zero loss. He even tried erasing the disqualification loss. Will that $12M be enough for to risk his GOAT title?

Even if Tom rest for another year, he is still younger than Jones, the age makes the difference.

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I was really hoping to see Jon Jones fight Tom Aspinall, it’ll be a big shame if Jones retires.

Aspinall is based not that far from me, would be awesome to see a fellow Brit become UFC heavyweight champ.

I think Aspinall would have been the first guy to KO Jones, really hope it can happen some day.

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I was really hoping to see Jon Jones fight Tom Aspinall, it’ll be a big shame if Jones retires.

Aspinall is based not that far from me, would be awesome to see a fellow Brit become UFC heavyweight champ.

I think Aspinall would have been the first guy to KO Jones, really hope it can happen some day.

If things continue like this, they will never really fight. I looked at the latest news and it's all about rumors. Nothing official, either from the fighters or from the UFC itself. I may be out of date, but I personally have given up on watching this fight. It's quite possible that Jones will retire without fighting.

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I would not believe in anything told about Jones Jones, money and fight schedule Cheesy As that dude has got such a wildcard with UFC that is able to make his own plans and his employers adopts to Bones wishes. Worst part of that situation is that Aspinall is on a huge pause. Almost a year on a pause and had a fight that lasted only 1 minute... During last 2 years, Aspinall fought in total 3 minutes. If he continues like that, he would lose all his skills.

I wouldn't worry about him losing skills. He has been posting a lot of training footage on his youtube channel with different kinds of sparring partners, so it's almost like he's in one, permanent training camp.
On the other hand, if I understand the situation correctly, Jon is taking it easy, he was posting some "holiday" type of content, and there was no indication of him training, which might have let Tom to believe he actually doesn't want to fight at all or wants to drag the negotiations forever deliberatly.

Tom is in a tough spot, even if he's active, it's not the same as having official fights when there's a title on the line. I think he played it well by refusing to repeat Chandler's mistake. He's in his prime years, so sitting idle for a year (or more) is a crime to the sport.
But it's ultimately the UFC's decision.

But if the fight is indeed scheduled for December, Tom could make a bold move and opt to fight another fight in between. That would be a horrible risk to take, but if he feels confident of his skills, then why not?

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I would not believe in anything told about Jones Jones, money and fight schedule Cheesy As that dude has got such a wildcard with UFC that is able to make his own plans and his employers adopts to Bones wishes. Worst part of that situation is that Aspinall is on a huge pause. Almost a year on a pause and had a fight that lasted only 1 minute... During last 2 years, Aspinall fought in total 3 minutes. If he continues like that, he would lose all his skills.

I wouldn't worry about him losing skills. He has been posting a lot of training footage on his youtube channel with different kinds of sparring partners, so it's almost like he's in one, permanent training camp.
On the other hand, if I understand the situation correctly, Jon is taking it easy, he was posting some "holiday" type of content, and there was no indication of him training, which might have let Tom to believe he actually doesn't want to fight at all or wants to drag the negotiations forever deliberatly.

Tom is in a tough spot, even if he's active, it's not the same as having official fights when there's a title on the line. I think he played it well by refusing to repeat Chandler's mistake. He's in his prime years, so sitting idle for a year (or more) is a crime to the sport.
But it's ultimately the UFC's decision.

But if the fight is indeed scheduled for December, Tom could make a bold move and opt to fight another fight in between. That would be a horrible risk to take, but if he feels confident of his skills, then why not?

Training footage - very good, but brick dont hit back Cheesy I am sure his is not killing himself or risking much during training. Why would not Tom fight Gane while waiting for Bones? Why not sign an agreement to fight Bones "as soon as Bones is ready, but make 2 year (one has passed already) limit to fulfil agreement" ? And everyone would be happy. While Tom isnt fighting for real, he isnt improving. Theoretically Bones could retire suddenly and Tom has wasted 1-2 years of his prime.

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June 06, 2025, 11:57:12 AM
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I was really hoping to see Jon Jones fight Tom Aspinall, it’ll be a big shame if Jones retires.

Aspinall is based not that far from me, would be awesome to see a fellow Brit become UFC heavyweight champ.

I think Aspinall would have been the first guy to KO Jones, really hope it can happen some day.

Yup would def love to see that fight.  We didn't get to see Jones vs Ngannou because Ngannou was asking more money and more perks which the UFC wasn't willing to give.  Now it's Jones who's asking for more money...  I think that they should just give Jones what he wants.  He's gonna retire soon and why not make him retire happy.

Anyway, I'm watching the pre fight press conference rn.  Lol.  I think O'Malley already knows he's gonna lose.  Lol.  He's just doing this for money now.

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June 06, 2025, 12:50:00 PM
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Yup would def love to see that fight.  We didn't get to see Jones vs Ngannou because Ngannou was asking more money and more perks which the UFC wasn't willing to give.  Now it's Jones who's asking for more money...  I think that they should just give Jones what he wants.  He's gonna retire soon and why not make him retire happy.

Anyway, I'm watching the pre fight press conference rn.  Lol.  I think O'Malley already knows he's gonna lose.  Lol.  He's just doing this for money now.

If Aspinall ever fights with Bones and wins, he would start to ask for more money as well Cheesy Kinda being heavyweight champ unlocks ability to ask for even more money Cheesy



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If Aspinall ever fights with Bones and wins, he would start to ask for more money as well Cheesy Kinda being heavyweight champ unlocks ability to ask for even more money Cheesy
I dont see any chance of him winning that fight, unless they fight as seniors in 20 or 30 years in future  Grin

Anyone wants to argue why Topuria is higher in p4p rating than Merab?
Ask Dana White and his bosses, they made many strange decisions with ranking of their fighters, and this is not the first time.
Fair ranking for MMA fighters should be done by someone who is neutral and not affiliated with UFC or other MMA organizations.

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Training footage - very good, but brick dont hit back Cheesy I am sure his is not killing himself or risking much during training. Why would not Tom fight Gane while waiting for Bones? Why not sign an agreement to fight Bones "as soon as Bones is ready, but make 2 year (one has passed already) limit to fulfil agreement" ? And everyone would be happy. While Tom isnt fighting for real, he isnt improving. Theoretically Bones could retire suddenly and Tom has wasted 1-2 years of his prime.

Bloodsport is a classic, but here's the original boards don't hit back

I don't think Tom or his team expected things to drag on for so long, maybe they thought the UFC would play hardball and give Jon a deadline to make up his mind and strip him of his belt if they don't reach an agreement.
Jon is acting like he's doing everyone a favour for even considering that fight, but that's his last chance of earning big money and securing himself and his family financially for the rest of his life.

Tom is vocal about fighting someone else if needed, if the UFC puts the real belt on the line. So it's not like he's dodging Gane or anyone else.
And there's no way they could sign a contract for a fight that could happen anytime in the next 2 years (whenever Jon feels like it). They all need a concrete date, location, sufficient time to prepare and hype up the event, and they need to agree on the money.

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Yup would def love to see that fight.  We didn't get to see Jones vs Ngannou because Ngannou was asking more money and more perks which the UFC wasn't willing to give.  Now it's Jones who's asking for more money...  I think that they should just give Jones what he wants.  He's gonna retire soon and why not make him retire happy.

Anyway, I'm watching the pre fight press conference rn.  Lol.  I think O'Malley already knows he's gonna lose.  Lol.  He's just doing this for money now.

If Aspinall ever fights with Bones and wins, he would start to ask for more money as well Cheesy Kinda being heavyweight champ unlocks ability to ask for even more money Cheesy



Nice statistics Cheesy 6 kisses. Do you think Merab is going to do something unpredictable this time again? Anyone wants to argue why Topuria is higher in p4p rating than Merab? Merab in last 5 fights: defeated undefeated Nurmagomedov, beat previous champion O'Malley, former champ Yan, former double champ Cejudo, former champ Aldo. Topuria has got only 2 champions skulls on his wall.

Yup.  It's just the way it is.  It's prize fighting after all.  Wink  Anybody that says otherwise is just plain dumb.  And at the end of the day, if Aspinall beats Jon Jones then he deserves a huge pay day in his next match.  He earned it.

If Aspinall ever fights with Bones and wins, he would start to ask for more money as well Cheesy Kinda being heavyweight champ unlocks ability to ask for even more money Cheesy
I dont see any chance of him winning that fight, unless they fight as seniors in 20 or 30 years in future  Grin

Anyone wants to argue why Topuria is higher in p4p rating than Merab?
Ask Dana White and his bosses, they made many strange decisions with ranking of their fighters, and this is not the first time.
Fair ranking for MMA fighters should be done by someone who is neutral and not affiliated with UFC or other MMA organizations.


Uh nope?  Lol.  Afaik it's the journos that make the P4P rankings.  Don't really care about it tho.  All I wanna do is make my bets and watch these matches.  But yeah, people just like to whine.  But if you're a 12 year old, sure go ahead.  Whine.

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Fixtures + odds (from BC.Game) for the UFC 316. Last call to place bets:

Salkilld, Quillan x1.25 Vs Ashmouz, Yanal x4.0
Saragih, Jeka x4.9 Vs Yoo, Joo Sang x1.19
Da Silva, Ariane x5.2 Vs Wang, Cong x1.17
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Murzakanov, Azamat x1.15 Vs Ribeiro, Brendson x5.6
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Bautista, Mario x2.45 Vs Mix, Patchy x1.57
Luque, Vicente x2.65 Vs Holland, Kevin x1.49
Gastelum, Kelvin x4.0 Vs Pyfer, Joe x1.26
Pena, Julianna x6.0 Vs Harrison, Kayla x1.13
Dvalishvili, Merab x1.36 Vs O'Malley, Sean x3.2
Williams, Khaos x1.55 Vs Gustafsson Berg, Andreas x2.5

As for the main event - I think Merab is rightfully the clear favourite, although I have a feeling Sean could do much better than he did last time. He's not the kind of fighter who would just show up without a good plan, especially when he got the beating last time and now he knows what to expect.

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And.... STILL!!!!!!!!!!!!! UFC THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME BANTAMWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD, MERAB THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME, THE MACHINE DVALISHVILI.

Did you guys watch the fight? Wish I was living in the USA, I'd watch every fight in person but it's too expensive for me to fly from EU and the rent apartment, tickets are crazy expensive too. Anyways, I only watched the main event and oh my, Merab is on another level. He did not just beat Sean O'Malley but he submitted him. How many submissions does Merab have? If I remember well, he has only one submission and after so many fights and so many years, he submitted Sean O'Malley, who is a really very good, very tall and dangerous fighter. Merab is simply on another level, no one has any chance against him. This division belongs to Merab and Merab only, until he retires, there is simply no one capable to win against Merab. The guy is 34 years old but improves every time, his every next performance is another level improvement, I don't understand where is this guy's pinnacle.

Congrats everyone who placed a bet on Merab's win like me and won the money.

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