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April 23, 2025, 06:33:08 PM
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Some news.

There were rumours about DDP vs Chimaev on UFC 317, but now it became known that DDP is off due to injury.
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DDP had a very good opportunity with this move; he avoided a danger like Khamzat and got a chance to keep his belt for a few more months...

Every fighter who wins a belt can safely keep it for a few more months with the excuse of injury. I think it's a weak point of the organisation but it's a smart move for the fighters...

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April 24, 2025, 10:15:59 AM
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I wont say that this injury is a great opportunity. Fighting is their job after all. If they keep on avoiding opponents, they wont earn (and turn into Chandler lol). They are not paid for simply holding belt. Moreover, to be in form, they spend money on camp, training, team. So when they get injured, this is equal to throwing part of money into bin. And I would not call it a weak point of promotion either, if fighters dont fight. If there is a numerical event, PPV are sold and champion isnt fighting, Dana dont need to share PPV sales % with a champ Cheesy For those who did not know, champ gets % of PPV sold, other fighter not.

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April 24, 2025, 12:12:55 PM
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Some news.

There were rumours about DDP vs Chimaev on UFC 317, but now it became known that DDP is off due to injury.
...

DDP had a very good opportunity with this move; he avoided a danger like Khamzat and got a chance to keep his belt for a few more months...

Every fighter who wins a belt can safely keep it for a few more months with the excuse of injury. I think it's a weak point of the organisation but it's a smart move for the fighters...

DDP avoided danger with Chim..?  Uh not really imho.  Chim has a tendency to have bad performances against top guys.  On top of my head, watch his match ups vs Burns and the one vs Usman which Usman took on short notice.  DDP on the other hand, looks unstoppable after beating Whittaker, Strickland twice and Adesanya.

Anyway, here's a replay of Prates.  This guy is solid and fights out of Brazil's 'fighting nerds' camp.  They've been making a name for themselves as of late.

UFC Free Fight:  Carlos Prates vs Neil Magny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTpM6vHont8

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April 24, 2025, 01:23:30 PM
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Why have you chosen Prates? Garry is a slight favourite and I expect him to win by UD. Garry is a master of turning fight in a boring competition, however it is hard to finish him. Prates with huge number of knockouts will be neutralized by Garry judo, and Garry would control him on the ground each time Prates starts pushing forward and outstrike.

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April 24, 2025, 06:33:20 PM
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Some news.

There were rumours about DDP vs Chimaev on UFC 317, but now it became known that DDP is off due to injury.
...

DDP had a very good opportunity with this move; he avoided a danger like Khamzat and got a chance to keep his belt for a few more months...

Every fighter who wins a belt can safely keep it for a few more months with the excuse of injury. I think it's a weak point of the organisation but it's a smart move for the fighters...

DDP avoided danger with Chim..?  Uh not really imho.  Chim has a tendency to have bad performances against top guys.  On top of my head, watch his match ups vs Burns and the one vs Usman which Usman took on short notice.  DDP on the other hand, looks unstoppable after beating Whittaker, Strickland twice and Adesanya.
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Khamzat is a good wrestler... In his match with Burns, he wanted to perform outside of his special skills. Despite that, he dominated Burns in that match... No one has ever been able to control Usman on the ground before until Khamzat. I saw a statistic that ranked Usman 3rd in takedown defence. If he hadn't fought Khamzat, he could have been at the top...


DDP on the other hand, looks unstoppable after beating Whittaker, Strickland twice and Adesanya.
...

Adesanya is finished. He lost his last 3 fights. And I don't want to comment about Strickland, I think he looks comfortable on the water due to the weakness of the fighters in that weight class. And Whittaker, if we look at the fights between Khamzat and Whittaker and DDP and Whittaker, I think we can make the most accurate prediction... :)

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April 24, 2025, 07:04:34 PM
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Adesanya is finished. He lost his last 3 fights. And I don't want to comment about Strickland, I think he looks comfortable on the water due to the weakness of the fighters in that weight class. And Whittaker, if we look at the fights between Khamzat and Whittaker and DDP and Whittaker, I think we can make the most accurate prediction... Smiley

3 losses in a row are not a good look, but he can still turn things around with one convincing win. Look at Dominic Reyes, he was on a 4-losses streak, followed by almost 2 years break, but he rebounded with 3 straight KO wins and now he's in the top 8, potentially one fight away from a title shot. They are both the same age.

I've seen some recent video of Izzy training with David Goggins, so he's not giving up just yet. I hope it will work out better for him than it did for Tony Ferguson.


As for the DDP being injured, according to himself, those were just a false rumours:
“I found it all very entertaining, unfortunately none of it is true myself and [UFC] already discussed a fight date and opponent, the June fight was never signed I did not pull out of any fight, I am the champion I know when I fight you as a contender just show up when we tell you to. Fight announcement coming soon stay tuned.”
https://www.mmafighting.com/2025/4/24/24415487/dricus-du-plessis-releases-statement-on-injury-rumors-fight-announcement

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April 25, 2025, 07:18:07 AM
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DDP on the other hand, looks unstoppable after beating Whittaker, Strickland twice and Adesanya.
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Adesanya is finished. He lost his last 3 fights. And I don't want to comment about Strickland, I think he looks comfortable on the water due to the weakness of the fighters in that weight class. And Whittaker, if we look at the fights between Khamzat and Whittaker and DDP and Whittaker, I think we can make the most accurate prediction... Smiley

The thing you have quoted, I dont remember posting that... Either you have quoted someone else and me, and made some mistake in editing. Or interpreted my words in own manner (please dont do that, it makes everything confusing).

Izzy is in bad position with 3 loses in a row, but we should admit that he got those loses from top opponents. If they were average guys, it would not forgivable. But as they are "two champs" and one that might become one soon, it is ok to lose to them. I think it is ok for Izzy to lose in general. He has beaten almost every top guy in his division twice. Now its era of other guys, and his prime is gone.

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April 25, 2025, 09:35:56 AM
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DDP on the other hand, looks unstoppable after beating Whittaker, Strickland twice and Adesanya.
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Adesanya is finished. He lost his last 3 fights. And I don't want to comment about Strickland, I think he looks comfortable on the water due to the weakness of the fighters in that weight class. And Whittaker, if we look at the fights between Khamzat and Whittaker and DDP and Whittaker, I think we can make the most accurate prediction... Smiley

The thing you have quoted, I dont remember posting that... Either you have quoted someone else and me, and made some mistake in editing. Or interpreted my words in own manner (please dont do that, it makes everything confusing).

Izzy is in bad position with 3 loses in a row, but we should admit that he got those loses from top opponents. If they were average guys, it would not forgivable. But as they are "two champs" and one that might become one soon, it is ok to lose to them. I think it is ok for Izzy to lose in general. He has beaten almost every top guy in his division twice. Now its era of other guys, and his prime is gone.

The quote was from Tokeweed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139347.msg65310578#msg65310578
Hes right about DDP though, him having an injury to the jaw might really be a leg down to his career. 

Izzy could make a come back if he can just fix himself again, even when he won his last fight with Pereira, he doesn't look like he is himself still. Thus the last 3 fights was tragic. A new win could renew his motivation and may be we'll see him again like Dominick Reyes.

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April 25, 2025, 09:48:01 AM
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Dont know how to comment this: "Mateusz Gamrot vs. Ludovit Klein announced for UFC Vegas 107]". April 1 has already been, but UFC match makers made such fight happen. Gamrot is #7 lightweight, Klein is #19 according to tapology and unranked in UFC Cheesy Klein has some good record against similar unranked guys, but he isnt a finisher in UFC. Why he gets so huge jump, and Gamrot got such an opponent? A secret for me.

Strickland beat another YouTuber Cheesy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV98MX-RD3g. Damn Sean does not mercy nobody Cheesy

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April 25, 2025, 11:56:01 AM
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Every fighter who wins a belt can safely keep it for a few more months with the excuse of injury. I think it's a weak point of the organisation but it's a smart move for the fighters...

i don't know if it was a smart move or a cowardly one, but it certainly seemed like a 'loophole' that a fighter could exploit to avoid a fight and stall for more time by making the title fight situation drag on. but whatever excuse DDP made, it doesn't change the fact that khamzat is waiting like a good boy to get his hands on the belt. he is more than ready to be a contender for the belt.

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April 25, 2025, 12:29:57 PM
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Why have you chosen Prates? Garry is a slight favourite and I expect him to win by UD. Garry is a master of turning fight in a boring competition, however it is hard to finish him. Prates with huge number of knockouts will be neutralized by Garry judo, and Garry would control him on the ground each time Prates starts pushing forward and outstrike.

Dunno...  Can't fade those guys at the fighting nerds camp.  And I don't really like Garry much.  The guy is cringe.  Lol.  But that's not mostly why I'm leaning Prates.  I think the match is gonna be all on the feet, so I like Prates' power advantage in this spot.  

As for Garry's chin, I remember he got wobbled by Kenan Song.  If Prates gets his chin I think he finishes Garry.

Some news.

There were rumours about DDP vs Chimaev on UFC 317, but now it became known that DDP is off due to injury.
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DDP had a very good opportunity with this move; he avoided a danger like Khamzat and got a chance to keep his belt for a few more months...

Every fighter who wins a belt can safely keep it for a few more months with the excuse of injury. I think it's a weak point of the organisation but it's a smart move for the fighters...

DDP avoided danger with Chim..?  Uh not really imho.  Chim has a tendency to have bad performances against top guys.  On top of my head, watch his match ups vs Burns and the one vs Usman which Usman took on short notice.  DDP on the other hand, looks unstoppable after beating Whittaker, Strickland twice and Adesanya.
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Khamzat is a good wrestler... In his match with Burns, he wanted to perform outside of his special skills. Despite that, he dominated Burns in that match... No one has ever been able to control Usman on the ground before until Khamzat. I saw a statistic that ranked Usman 3rd in takedown defence. If he hadn't fought Khamzat, he could have been at the top...




Not saying he's not a good wrestler, I'm questioning if he's really that good as a fighter to beat DDP.

Can't find the official weigh in vid but here's the ceremonial one that's gonna start in 8 hours.

UFC Kansas City:  Ceremonial Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxH9IZqR0yY

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April 25, 2025, 03:35:47 PM
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Khamzat is a good wrestler... In his match with Burns, he wanted to perform outside of his special skills. Despite that, he dominated Burns in that match... No one has ever been able to control Usman on the ground before until Khamzat. I saw a statistic that ranked Usman 3rd in takedown defence. If he hadn't fought Khamzat, he could have been at the top...
I can say that Khamzat is the best middleweight in wrestling right now. If he plays in welterweight then maybe Khamzat has the same wrestling ability as Belal. But unfortunately khamzat's wrestling ability is only effective in the first and second round. I mean his takedowns are really explosive and it's hard even for wrestlers to block khamzat's takedowns. But it seems like Khamzat doesn't have good stamina to keep playing with his wrestling. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Izzy is in bad position with 3 loses in a row, but we should admit that he got those loses from top opponents. If they were average guys, it would not forgivable. But as they are "two champs" and one that might become one soon, it is ok to lose to them. I think it is ok for Izzy to lose in general. He has beaten almost every top guy in his division twice. Now its era of other guys, and his prime is gone.
I agree with you. Izzy was a star in the old era and his glory days are over. I still remember at the peak of his career Izzy was the best striking fighter in UFC at that time. His long career in kickboxing made Adesanya's understanding of striking on a different level. He became a world champion, got an undefeated record and beat all the elite fighters in his era. His first loss was when he tried to become a double champ. I think the decline of Adesanya's career was when Pereira entered UFC. Because after that Izzy got 3 losses and now his record has become 24-5-0.

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Dont know how to comment this: "Mateusz Gamrot vs. Ludovit Klein announced for UFC Vegas 107]". April 1 has already been, but UFC match makers made such fight happen. Gamrot is #7 lightweight, Klein is #19 according to tapology and unranked in UFC Cheesy Klein has some good record against similar unranked guys, but he isnt a finisher in UFC. Why he gets so huge jump, and Gamrot got such an opponent? A secret for me.

Gamrot wasted a great chance when he was matched up against Hooker but lost by a split decision. At least the fight was entertaining and was awarded the "fight of the night". Previously, Gamrot was criticised by some of the fans for having a boring style.
Since he lost his last fight, it's fair that he now faces someone ranked below him, but Klein is a huge step down. I'm not going to lie, I have no clue who Ludovit Klein is. I was hoping to see Gamrot fighting Moicano, or someone of that calibre, but I guess that's what the UFC has to offer him. Sad.
But anything is better than not fighting at all.

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The weigh ins are in and here are the results...

Ian Machado Garry (171) vs Carlos Prates (171)
Zhang Mingyang (206) vs Anthony Smith (206)
Giga Chikadze (147)* vs David Onama (146)
Abus Magomedov (185.5) vs Michel Pereira (186)
Randy Brown (171) vs Nicolas Dalby (171)
Ikram Aliskerov (185.5) vs Andre Muniz (185)
Jimmy Flick (126) vs Matt Schnell (126)
Evan Elder (156) vs Gauge Young (156)
John Castaneda (146) vs Chris Gutierrez (146)
Heili Alateng (136) vs Da'Mon Blackshear (135.5)
Cameron Saaiman (135) vs Malcolm Wellmaker (135)
Jaqueline Amorim (116) vs Polyana Viana (115.5)
Timmy Cuamba (146) vs Roberto Romero (145)
Chelsea Chandler (134) vs Joselyne Edwards (136)

*Missed weight

Machado Garry vs Prates Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDVIZzRbajI

UFC Kansas City:  Face Offs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH6WJE-6M9Q

These are my leans after weigh ins.

Carlos Prates
Zhang Mingyang
David Onama
Michel Pereira
Randy Brown
Andre Muniz
Matt Schnell
Evan Elder
John Castaneda
Da'Mon Blackshear
Cameron Saaiman
Jaqueline Amorim
Roberto Romero
Joselyne Edwards

A couple of slight underdogs in there and a long shot on Muniz.  Lol.  Good luck with your bets.

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April 26, 2025, 02:47:35 PM
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Dont know how to comment this: "Mateusz Gamrot vs. Ludovit Klein announced for UFC Vegas 107]". April 1 has already been, but UFC match makers made such fight happen. Gamrot is #7 lightweight, Klein is #19 according to tapology and unranked in UFC Cheesy Klein has some good record against similar unranked guys, but he isnt a finisher in UFC. Why he gets so huge jump, and Gamrot got such an opponent? A secret for me.

Gamrot wasted a great chance when he was matched up against Hooker but lost by a split decision. At least the fight was entertaining and was awarded the "fight of the night". Previously, Gamrot was criticised by some of the fans for having a boring style.
Since he lost his last fight, it's fair that he now faces someone ranked below him, but Klein is a huge step down. I'm not going to lie, I have no clue who Ludovit Klein is. I was hoping to see Gamrot fighting Moicano, or someone of that calibre, but I guess that's what the UFC has to offer him. Sad.
But anything is better than not fighting at all.

Tehen it would be fair, if #7 faces someone from the top, but who is below him. And guy on #12-15 face guys that are unranked. At first I was like you, who this Ludovit Klein is? He won some fights, but opponents were unranked and average also. Should there be a gatekeeper, who will test guys before they can get someone so high?

I agree with you that fighting someone is better than not fighting at all. But Gamrot is wasting his contract fights number, resources financial and body, opportunity of fighting ranked guy. If he wins, he will be having next opponent no sooner than in 3-6 months.

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Khamzat is a good wrestler... In his match with Burns, he wanted to perform outside of his special skills. Despite that, he dominated Burns in that match... No one has ever been able to control Usman on the ground before until Khamzat. I saw a statistic that ranked Usman 3rd in takedown defence. If he hadn't fought Khamzat, he could have been at the top...
I can say that Khamzat is the best middleweight in wrestling right now. If he plays in welterweight then maybe Khamzat has the same wrestling ability as Belal. But unfortunately khamzat's wrestling ability is only effective in the first and second round. I mean his takedowns are really explosive and it's hard even for wrestlers to block khamzat's takedowns. But it seems like Khamzat doesn't have good stamina to keep playing with his wrestling. Correct me if I'm wrong.
That's how it is. Khamzat is very dangerous in the first round especially. I wanted so badly to watch Khamzat VS DDP but sadly this fight failed. My opinion was that if Khamzat fails to take DDP down in the first round, then DDP will win the match.
By the way, I hope he never becomes like a Belal.

Izzy is in bad position with 3 loses in a row, but we should admit that he got those loses from top opponents. If they were average guys, it would not forgivable. But as they are "two champs" and one that might become one soon, it is ok to lose to them. I think it is ok for Izzy to lose in general. He has beaten almost every top guy in his division twice. Now its era of other guys, and his prime is gone.
I agree with you. Izzy was a star in the old era and his glory days are over. I still remember at the peak of his career Izzy was the best striking fighter in UFC at that time. His long career in kickboxing made Adesanya's understanding of striking on a different level. He became a world champion, got an undefeated record and beat all the elite fighters in his era. His first loss was when he tried to become a double champ. I think the decline of Adesanya's career was when Pereira entered UFC. Because after that Izzy got 3 losses and now his record has become 24-5-0.
He clearly isn't an Izzy that we were used to see. His performance has declined significantly and I think that's because of his lack of discipline, he doesn't workout well. If Alex Pereira can be one of the greatest fighter at the age of 37, especially when the guy was alcoholic and started training very late at his life, then Izzy can be a top fighter as well. I think he has to either really focus on fighting or retire. To be completely frank, it's better for him to retire, the guy has a model's look and face, he should continue career in modelling till he is still young.

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April 26, 2025, 09:02:58 PM
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Last chance to place bets on tonight's event.
Odds for the main card are as follows:

Aliskerov, Ikrom x1.2 Vs Muniz, Andre x4.2
Elder, Evan x1.47 Vs Young, Gauge x2.55
Schnell, Matt x1.6 Vs Flick, Jimmy x2.25
Brown, Randy x1.33 Vs Dalby, Nicolas x3.1
Pereiro, Michel x1.67 Vs Magomedov, Abusupiyan x2.1
Chikadze, Giga x2.4 Vs Onama, David x1.52
Smith, Anthony x3.85 Vs Zhang, Mingyang x1.23
Garry, Ian x1.65 Vs Prates, Carlos x2.15

Garry is taking a gamble by fighting Prates, who is ranked 13th. He doesn't have much to win and a lot to lose.
Prates may have 6 losses in his record, but he's undefeated since 2019. He's on an 11 win streak and has 10 straight KO/TKO finishes, which is pretty impressive.

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^  My hate for Garry blinded me and had me taking Prates as the slight underdog.  Cheesy Cheesy  What was I thinking??  It was total domination for Garry.  He was just the smarter, faster guy...  Anyhow, yeah.  Here are the results.

And oh, the Randy Brown fight was gooood.  I haven't shouted just for a small bet in a little while.

Ian Machado Garry def. Carlos Prates  UD
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David Onama def. Giga Chikadze  UD
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Jaqueline Amorim def. Polyana Viana  SUB R2
Timothy Cuamba def. Roberto Romero  TKO R2
Joselyne Edwards def. Chelsea Chandler  TKO R1

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April 27, 2025, 01:44:36 PM
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The thing you have quoted, I dont remember posting that... Either you have quoted someone else and me, and made some mistake in editing. Or interpreted my words in own manner (please dont do that, it makes everything confusing).
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I made a small mistake, but it created big misunderstandings. I didn't mean any harm. It was completely a mistake. Sorry...


^  My hate for Garry blinded me and had me taking Prates as the slight underdog.  :D :D  What was I thinking??  It was total domination for Garry.  He was just the smarter, faster guy...  Anyhow, yeah.  Here are the results.
...

I expected Garry to win this fight, but he could have lost the fight in the final stages... There's a few good names in the weight class, he's one of them without a doubt...


...
Not saying he's not a good wrestler, I'm questioning if he's really that good as a fighter to beat DDP.

I don't think DDP has much of a chance against Khamzat with his style of bar brawler... :) I think some weight classes don't have enough competitive fighters. Fighters like DDP and Strickland are taking advantage of that...

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That's how it is. Khamzat is very dangerous in the first round especially. I wanted so badly to watch Khamzat VS DDP but sadly this fight failed. My opinion was that if Khamzat fails to take DDP down in the first round, then DDP will win the match.
By the way, I hope he never becomes like a Belal.

i am also really looking forward to the fight between khamzat vs DDP.. it will be one of the most exciting fights of the year if it happens. both are also undefeated fighters in the middleweight class, and have aggressive fighting styles, this will be a fierce fight. but i am more rooting for khamzat if they both really meet in the fight later. khamzat just has a fighting style that i like quite a bit and i am sure that he can win.

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