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May 24, 2019, 09:53:28 PM
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In 30 years it seems impossible if there is no salary increase, if the salary does not change for 30 how you meet the increasing needs.

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May 24, 2019, 10:32:17 PM
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Over the past 30 years, salary never goes up, I know because I saw the salary today is same as my first salary 30 years ago, I’m not disclosing my age, so don’t be too paranoia, but the price of everything goes up thru the roof, the only person who salary goes up are (ikr, salary must kept secret because it is case sensitive, don’t tell anyone else!), ok, enough rant! Try to tell your kids to work for a salary in the future, I think they could barely afford a piece of beard!!

End of story! Ciao!
The price of goods goes up automatically, but as for your salary you will have to ask for it, if you need an increase in salary and you think you deserve it. Hardly will you see any employer that is ready do an increase for you without you asking for it cause they will assume that you're okay with what you're being paid, so for that they wouldn't give you any increase in salary.

So if you know your worth and you know that the salary you're being paid is not worth it, then its up to you to talk about it with your boss or whoever you're meant to talk to about it. Another way your salary can be increased is through promotion and sometimes that means that you're getting double work than what you work before, and the increase after then might still not be worth it cause of the work that has been doubled up.

Part of the problem is companies busting up unions that try to fight for fair wages.  Companies like Wal Mart will fire anyone that even talks about forming a union.  They have lots of anti-union propaganda at their job orientations as well.
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May 25, 2019, 07:58:11 AM
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Over the past 30 years, salary never goes up, I know because I saw the salary today is same as my first salary 30 years ago, I’m not disclosing my age, so don’t be too paranoia, but the price of everything goes up thru the roof, the only person who salary goes up are (ikr, salary must kept secret because it is case sensitive, don’t tell anyone else!), ok, enough rant! Try to tell your kids to work for a salary in the future, I think they could barely afford a piece of beard!!

End of story! Ciao!
The price of goods goes up automatically, but as for your salary you will have to ask for it, if you need an increase in salary and you think you deserve it. Hardly will you see any employer that is ready do an increase for you without you asking for it cause they will assume that you're okay with what you're being paid, so for that they wouldn't give you any increase in salary.

So if you know your worth and you know that the salary you're being paid is not worth it, then its up to you to talk about it with your boss or whoever you're meant to talk to about it. Another way your salary can be increased is through promotion and sometimes that means that you're getting double work than what you work before, and the increase after then might still not be worth it cause of the work that has been doubled up.
LOL, you can only ask for salary when you are working with a private firm, but when you work with government, you have to wait till it gets to your promotion time, and when you are being promoted, it comes with little benefit of increase in salary and the increase too is still not that much to cater for one’s full need.

For private firm, the only people that really enjoys and can demand for increase is when you are probably an expert in your field, so they treat you as one, but as an ordinary worker, they don’t pay attention that much too, they will only tell you that they will look into it and may not. The best is just be your own boss, work for yourself and earn whatever amount you want.
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May 25, 2019, 05:32:15 PM
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This is really crazy. I can't believe that your salary has remained constant for 30 years. Here in India, the agricultural laborers used to get around INR 5 three decades pack as the salary. This has increased to around INR 200 as of now. Obviously the inflation has also increased during this time, but if you look at the purchasing power, it is also showing an increase.
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May 25, 2019, 05:37:50 PM
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That's what most of us will be doing in the years to come, changing our jobs every two-three years or so. It's hard to predict beforehand which job positions will be in excess in 3 years and which ones will be in high demand. I mean, it's similar to sports betting: if a team will win most likely( read: a job will be in high demand) then many people bet on it (read: many people learn that job) and your reward becomes close to nothing. Some contemporary thinkers say that bioengineering is a very promising specialization. But then again, if everybody knows that, we can end up with excess of bioengineers pretty soon.

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May 25, 2019, 05:42:47 PM
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This is really crazy. I can't believe that your salary has remained constant for 30 years. Here in India, the agricultural laborers used to get around INR 5 three decades pack as the salary. This has increased to around INR 200 as of now. Obviously the inflation has also increased during this time, but if you look at the purchasing power, it is also showing an increase.
It depends from country to country. Inflation is a big problem essentially for third world countries where the salary in the local currency could be multiplied by x number but in fact if we compare it in the past few years to gold or $/£/€...today then you will see that the salary decreased or remain the same at best...

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May 25, 2019, 06:02:38 PM
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Over the past 30 years, salary never goes up, I know because I saw the salary today is same as my first salary 30 years ago, I’m not disclosing my age, so don’t be too paranoia, but the price of everything goes up thru the roof, the only person who salary goes up are (ikr, salary must kept secret because it is case sensitive, don’t tell anyone else!), ok, enough rant! Try to tell your kids to work for a salary in the future, I think they could barely afford a piece of beard!!

End of story! Ciao!
There needs to be a demonstration to the company about your problem, if you just stay silent and just grumble then that is not the right way. I was also like that in the past but as time went on the workers took the courage to make demonstrations which in the end after a long process employees' salaries are increased every year and this is one of the processes to make companies care about their employees.

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May 25, 2019, 07:59:31 PM
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From what i learned from the situation in my country, is that whenever there is an increase in the necessary goods and overall prices, is there is an attempt from the government to fix the economical situation, when this goes people starts demanding raises in their salary which leads to nothing because the money gained from increasing prices to fix the economy goes back to the salary increase, but if this is has been going on fro 30 years like the op said means that the situation is not that bad and the increase in prices was made progressively and with very small amounts.
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May 25, 2019, 09:27:12 PM
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Over the past 30 years, salary never goes up, I know because I saw the salary today is same as my first salary 30 years ago, I’m not disclosing my age, so don’t be too paranoia, but the price of everything goes up thru the roof, the only person who salary goes up are (ikr, salary must kept secret because it is case sensitive, don’t tell anyone else!), ok, enough rant! Try to tell your kids to work for a salary in the future, I think they could barely afford a piece of beard!!

End of story! Ciao!
The price of goods goes up automatically, but as for your salary you will have to ask for it, if you need an increase in salary and you think you deserve it. Hardly will you see any employer that is ready do an increase for you without you asking for it cause they will assume that you're okay with what you're being paid, so for that they wouldn't give you any increase in salary.

So if you know your worth and you know that the salary you're being paid is not worth it, then its up to you to talk about it with your boss or whoever you're meant to talk to about it. Another way your salary can be increased is through promotion and sometimes that means that you're getting double work than what you work before, and the increase after then might still not be worth it cause of the work that has been doubled up.

Part of the problem is companies busting up unions that try to fight for fair wages.  Companies like Wal Mart will fire anyone that even talks about forming a union.  They have lots of anti-union propaganda at their job orientations as well.
As expected and they would definitely do such thing for those who tend to oppose their company thats why employees would always be on disadvantage on here.
This is how inflation works actually but talking on op for 30 years passed seems to be very impossible yet on my country it do adjusted between on those kind of gaps of years.

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May 25, 2019, 09:34:14 PM
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hmm...this is so bad especially if you're coming from a now developing country. Life is really hard, things are expensive as you said, no good jobs for you to earn more and the little you earn also drains fast. I'll put a larher part of the blame on politicians. They're the cause of many of today's problems and that's why we're (millennial) trying to get their authoritative behaviors out of this world by strengthening the growth of crypto and blockchain.

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May 26, 2019, 04:50:43 AM
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This is really crazy. I can't believe that your salary has remained constant for 30 years. Here in India, the agricultural laborers used to get around INR 5 three decades pack as the salary. This has increased to around INR 200 as of now. Obviously the inflation has also increased during this time, but if you look at the purchasing power, it is also showing an increase.
The price of goods rises due to inflation or there is a momentum that traders use to face certain holidays. Inflation is closely related to government policy because the price of goods increases while the value of the currency shrinks.
But if the salary does not rise for a long time, it is clear that it will not be enough to meet the needs of life because the value of the salary it receives is shrinking compared to the price of the rising goods.
In my country there are government policies that require companies to pay their employees with salaries based on the minimum living feasibility issued by the local government. And this is updated every year.

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May 26, 2019, 07:08:57 AM
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Over the past 30 years, salary never goes up, I know because I saw the salary today is same as my first salary 30 years ago, I’m not disclosing my age, so don’t be too paranoia, but the price of everything goes up thru the roof, the only person who salary goes up are (ikr, salary must kept secret because it is case sensitive, don’t tell anyone else!), ok, enough rant! Try to tell your kids to work for a salary in the future, I think they could barely afford a piece of beard!!

End of story! Ciao!
The price of goods goes up automatically, but as for your salary you will have to ask for it, if you need an increase in salary and you think you deserve it. Hardly will you see any employer that is ready do an increase for you without you asking for it cause they will assume that you're okay with what you're being paid, so for that they wouldn't give you any increase in salary.

So if you know your worth and you know that the salary you're being paid is not worth it, then its up to you to talk about it with your boss or whoever you're meant to talk to about it. Another way your salary can be increased is through promotion and sometimes that means that you're getting double work than what you work before, and the increase after then might still not be worth it cause of the work that has been doubled up.

Part of the problem is companies busting up unions that try to fight for fair wages.  Companies like Wal Mart will fire anyone that even talks about forming a union.  They have lots of anti-union propaganda at their job orientations as well.
As expected and they would definitely do such thing for those who tend to oppose their company thats why employees would always be on disadvantage on here.
This is how inflation works actually but talking on op for 30 years passed seems to be very impossible yet on my country it do adjusted between on those kind of gaps of years.
I think logically, too, when every year the demo workers ask for a wage increase, of course the company will increase its producer goods, if the average of all companies is like this, of course the impact will be on the employees themselves

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May 26, 2019, 09:17:05 AM
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hmm...this is so bad especially if you're coming from a now developing country. Life is really hard, things are expensive as you said, no good jobs for you to earn more and the little you earn also drains fast. I'll put a larher part of the blame on politicians. They're the cause of many of today's problems and that's why we're (millennial) trying to get their authoritative behaviors out of this world by strengthening the growth of crypto and blockchain.
This is also a wake up call that we should not only rely on salary, we need to ensure we have a back up plan as when economy goes down, our income will be affected. Learning to trade is one good alternative, if you can be profitable here, you will be confident of your future, further, if you can find a decent job online that pays bitcoin, that would be a nice addition.

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May 26, 2019, 06:39:40 PM
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Over the past 30 years, salary never goes up, I know because I saw the salary today is same as my first salary 30 years ago, I’m not disclosing my age, so don’t be too paranoia, but the price of everything goes up thru the roof, the only person who salary goes up are (ikr, salary must kept secret because it is case sensitive, don’t tell anyone else!), ok, enough rant! Try to tell your kids to work for a salary in the future, I think they could barely afford a piece of beard!!

End of story! Ciao!
There needs to be a demonstration to the company about your problem, if you just stay silent and just grumble then that is not the right way. I was also like that in the past but as time went on the workers took the courage to make demonstrations which in the end after a long process employees' salaries are increased every year and this is one of the processes to make companies care about their employees.

It depends on the country. In some places you can only make things worse by such demonstrations.
I would suggest OP two things to choose from:

1. Change the country where you live.

2. Find a job on the Internet. A very popular thing right now is Outsourcing. Google it. Below, for example, is the link to the list of top 20 outsourcing companies in India.

https://yourstory.com/mystory/c4e15ffd12-the-top-20-outsourcing-companies-in-india

What they basically do is they provide you with a job so that you work for a western company receiving 2-3 times less than what you would receive working on that particular job, say, in Great Britain. But this amount can still be much higher than what you can receive working in your country.

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May 26, 2019, 07:12:41 PM
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OP, I hear what you're saying, but it's not true for every job.  I made $11/hr in 1996 at a hospital I worked at for a few years (with no raises, by the way), and the starting wage for a related job that I know of that somebody took:  $11/hr.  So yeah, some wages do stay the same while the price of goods & services continue to increase.

On the other hand, I've held jobs where I got yearly raises that well outpaced inflation.  It really depends on what kind of work you do.  And think of this:  if wages never kept up with inflation, every single person would be living in poverty.  So what you're saying does not hold true in all cases.  Not by a long shot.

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If in formal work the salary earned is too small, we can make crypto as an alternative job and from the benefits obtained can be very helpful for fulfilling life's needs.

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Over the past 30 years, salary never goes up, I know because I saw the salary today is same as my first salary 30 years ago, I’m not disclosing my age, so don’t be too paranoia, but the price of everything goes up thru the roof, the only person who salary goes up are (ikr, salary must kept secret because it is case sensitive, don’t tell anyone else!), ok, enough rant! Try to tell your kids to work for a salary in the future, I think they could barely afford a piece of beard!!

End of story! Ciao!
The price of goods goes up automatically, but as for your salary you will have to ask for it, if you need an increase in salary and you think you deserve it. Hardly will you see any employer that is ready do an increase for you without you asking for it cause they will assume that you're okay with what you're being paid, so for that they wouldn't give you any increase in salary.

So if you know your worth and you know that the salary you're being paid is not worth it, then its up to you to talk about it with your boss or whoever you're meant to talk to about it. Another way your salary can be increased is through promotion and sometimes that means that you're getting double work than what you work before, and the increase after then might still not be worth it cause of the work that has been doubled up.

Part of the problem is companies busting up unions that try to fight for fair wages.  Companies like Wal Mart will fire anyone that even talks about forming a union.  They have lots of anti-union propaganda at their job orientations as well.
As expected and they would definitely do such thing for those who tend to oppose their company thats why employees would always be on disadvantage on here.
This is how inflation works actually but talking on op for 30 years passed seems to be very impossible yet on my country it do adjusted between on those kind of gaps of years.
I think logically, too, when every year the demo workers ask for a wage increase, of course the company will increase its producer goods, if the average of all companies is like this, of course the impact will be on the employees themselves
There would really be adjustments because if they don't do such thing then there would be a big problem.I agree on what Mahanton do said above that its an impossible thing
if the said salary isn't adjusted for those long years because it will surely make some rally from its employees on that case which will affect their company.
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This is quite unimaginable, with the rate of inflations having to earn the same salary for 30 years. All l take from this discussion is your patience, commitment. Not many people will do what you do, hats off.

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What kind of boss or company that enforces its employees does not get a salary increase. They really don't understand the inflation that happened. Of course, many things have happened for the past 30 years, we can imagine that these workers are difficult to support themselves with goods whose prices have changed quite a lot.

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May 27, 2019, 05:13:45 AM
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Over the past 30 years, salary never goes up, I know because I saw the salary today is same as my first salary 30 years ago, I’m not disclosing my age, so don’t be too paranoia, but the price of everything goes up thru the roof, the only person who salary goes up are (ikr, salary must kept secret because it is case sensitive, don’t tell anyone else!), ok, enough rant! Try to tell your kids to work for a salary in the future, I think they could barely afford a piece of beard!!

End of story! Ciao!
that's why Bitcoin was born. Satoshi has limited the supply and it shows its value at the present time. As you can see, when Venezuela was attacked by hyperinflation, all the people put money to buy Bitcoin and as a result, the most traded bitcoin in Venezuela.
This is a market that can save the economic situation for some countries. We should be glad that the crypto market is born.

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