Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby!

[philipma1957]

Link to thread 8


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3843565.0


I self mod  to cut spam down and to keep people civil.


I purchase gear from

https://pangolinminer.com/ edit not so much as I used to. edit stopped using them
https://blokforge.com/
https://minefarmbuy.com/ edit mostly buying gpus here
https://canaan.io/

offordscott and I are just doing our first deal  I will post on it. Soon.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138318.0


I no longer purchase direct from bitmain edit I buy from them.
But I do use second sellers to get some bitmain gear.  As I am allowed to buy it with paypal.


I use smos to mine with 1080ti's  link to smos

https://simplemining.net/   I rate it as an honest website

pools I mine at

pool.viabtc >>>>>> btc and ltc and a few crap coins
f2pool  >>>>>>>>> grin mining with smos control for the miners edit no more
mmpool.org >>>>>> btc  small hashrate
solo.ckpool.org  >>>>  solo btc mining small hashrate


I hodl some BTC
I hodl some LTC
I hodl some DOGE edit I sold a lot of doge and made very good cap gain I still mine and hodl some of it.

edit I mine eth with gpus and sell off eth quickly


I sell grin for LTC   edit stopped
I hodl some Raven edit stopped
I hodl some BCI     edit stopped

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33MP6oHLGnnrVAf1hC3WV2RBXZ2HNsexYw



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Here are some links for my use








https://www.nicehash.com/my/miner/33MP6oHLGnnrVAf1hC3WV2RBXZ2HNsexYw







https://www.nicehash.com/miner/146UJM5kgzLVUV23CXCf33KQKHckoX1gx3





https://www.nicehash.com/my/miner/1Cvv8ZVqu7jsjFLU1p3XuMggSMyfpLRiun





https://www.nicehash.com/my/miner/1Q9iWR8ij9pXzVP2T6hR4mm8Z5mtyNKWsZ




https://www.nicehash.com/miner/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje



https://www.nicehash.com/miner/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr
https://www.nicehash.com/miner/3H7qU9BWAsQv4bGsyXrxU7asVW8acoBn6P



https://old.nicehash.com/miner/146UJM5kgzLVUV23CXCf33KQKHckoX1gx3
https://old.nicehash.com/miner/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr


https://old.nicehash.com/miner/3H7qU9BWAsQv4bGsyXrxU7asVW8acoBn6P
https://old.nicehash.com/miner/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje
iQTQm8m6xSxZorFVn69DCt6oyCASDS39A6


philipma1957April2016


0: GTX 1080 Ti 11GB.   41.32 161
1: GTX 1080 Ti 11GB    41.99 164

 0: Msi RX 5600 XT 6GB 34.91 81
1: RX 5600/5700 6GB.   37.04 82
2: Msi RX 5600 XT 6GB 34.92 77

0: Msi RX 5500 XT 8GB.              25.15  61
1: Powercolor RX 5600 XT 6GB 37.96  89
2: AMD RX 5700 XL 8GB -           49.92 109
3: Msi RX 5600 XT 6GB  -             37.96  87

0: Powercolor RX 5700 XT 8GB  50.82 108
1: Powercolor RX 5700 XT 8GB  51.04 102
2: Powercolor RX 5700 XT 8GB. 51.02 102. p1 494 1.582



0: Msi GTX 1080 Ti 11GB  39.71 157
1: Zotac GTX 1080 Ti 11GB 39.08 158

0: Evga GTX 1660 6GB -    19.85 85
1: Evga GTX 1660 Ti 6GB - 26.72 84
2: Evga GTX 1660 Ti 6GB - 26.72 84

0: Nvidia GTX 1050 Ti 4GB.   6.13  60
1: GTX 1080 Ti 11GB.             11.87 147
2: Zotac GTX 1660 Ti 6GB.   11.61  80
3: GTX 1080 Ti 11GB.              12.44 148

0: His RX 5500 XT 8GB - 25.15 64
1: Msi RX 5600 XT 6GB - 37.94 87
2: Msi RX 5700 XT 8GB - 50.29 128
3: Msi RX 5600 XT 6GB - 37.95. 90
4: His RX 5500 XT 8GB  - 25.16  60

0: Msi RX 5600 XT 6GB - 37.11 91
1: Xfx RX 5600 XT 6GB - 37.10 87
2: Msi RX 5600 XT 6GB - 37.10 84
3: Msi RX 5600 XT 6GB - 37.10 86

0: Msi GTX 1080 Ti 11GB  - 35.74 144
1: Msi GTX 1080 Ti 11GB  - 35.76 140
2: Msi GTX 1080 Ti 11GB -  35.65 146
3: Msi GTX 1080 Ti 11GB -  35.59 146

0: AMD RX 5700 XL 8GB - 50.08 116
1: Msi RX 5500 XT 8GB  -   25.30  61
2: Asus RX 5500 XT 8GB - 23.71  62

0: Msi RX 5600 XT 6GB. 38.12.  100
1: Msi RX 5600 XT 6GB.  39.59.  96
2: Msi RX 5700 XL 8GB.  44.66  105
3: His RX 5500 XT 8GB.   25.33  62

0: Msi RX 5700 XT 8GB.   47.75 125
1: Asus RX 5500 XT 8GB.  23.81 60    pa 787 148 41.  3.787


0: Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti 11GB 40.70 168
1: Msi GTX 1080 Ti 11GB.   42.32 167

0: Evga GTX 1080 Ti 11GB 42.46 148
1: Evga GTX 1080 Ti 11GB 41.46 151
2: Evga GTX 1080 Ti 11GB 42.42 149
3: Msi GTX 1080 Ti 11GB.   44.13  151   pt. 254 1.0


0: Msi GTX 1080 Ti 11GB.  36.79 151
1: Evga GTX 1080 8GB.     24.26 122
2: Msi GTX 1070 8GB.       24.59   101
3: Evga GTX 1070 8GB.   24.37  102       l. 110 513

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[philipma1957]

Space just in case.
I will delete spam.  

And fuck you, you suck style threads.    I.E. Please attempt to be a little bit polite.




Feel free to post.

 Well we were over :

8300 BTC
  445 BCH
  272 ETH
  106 LTC

on May 15th

All fell back but still decent numbers.

Thoughts?


Oh

Raven   is 5.27 cents  I am wanting 50 cents to cash  ½ my holdings
BCI      is 8.82 cents I am wanting 80 cents to cash    ½ my holdings
Doge    is 0.28 cents I am wanting 30 cents to cash    ½ my holdings

[molivil]

I think there's a bit of a pull back from an overbought market. I believe we're still in a bullish sentiment and may continue to see rising prices over a medium term. I'm considering selling a little if Eth hits $400 and Ripple $1. But I'm really hoping to see higher figures, like we had in 2017. Those were the days.

[garetjax]

Phil,

Love your thread - very helpful.  I've been following this one and your solar work - I"m in Arizona and thinking about maybe doing something small.  However, I only have experience with building GPU rigs, no experience with ASICS and BTC mining.  Thinking of starting with some ASICS indoors to learn with before potentially tinkering with solar panels etc.  My electricity cost is super cheap for US ie like 6.2 cents.

Do you have any suggestions /tips on what getting started with ASICS.  One of my garages has 220, I had my mining rigs in there until about May but then its too hot and they get moved into the house.   How are ASICS with extreme heat?

Thanks - Mike

[philipma1957]

Phil,

Love your thread - very helpful.  I've been following this one and your solar work - I"m in Arizona and thinking about maybe doing something small.  However, I only have experience with building GPU rigs, no experience with ASICS and BTC mining.  Thinking of starting with some ASICS indoors to learn with before potentially tinkering with solar panels etc.  My electricity cost is super cheap for US ie like 6.2 cents.

Do you have any suggestions /tips on what getting started with ASICS.  One of my garages has 220, I had my mining rigs in there until about May but then its too hot and they get moved into the house.   How are ASICS with extreme heat?

Thanks - Mike

S9's can run in a 100f room  but Arizona is hot here in NJ  100 f may not happen entire summer.

MY suggestion is an S9 running braiins software.

you can clock at 815 watts and do about 10th.

pretty efficient and not too loud

 an s-9  doing 10th earns 0.0003919 btc a day on viabtc.  that is $2.75   a day 815 x 24 = close to 20 kwatts a day so

6 cents = 1.20 power cost of 1.55 profit  193 day payoff
7 cents = 1.40 power cost or 1.35 profit  222 day payoff
8 cents = 1.60 power cost or 1.15 profit  260 day payoff

if you buy a 300 dollar s9 with a psu  you pay off in about 6-8 months.

you can run at  13 th and 1250 watts but more noise   you would pay off in a little less time.
it earns 3.57 a day at 13th
6 cents = 1.80   1.77 a day profit   168 day payoff
7 cents = 2.10   1.47 a day profit    204 day payoff
8 cents = 2.40    1.17 a day profit   256 day payoff

[jasta more]

btc-push towards 7400 then 1 more correction to 5800-6400,also this morning dump was mostly on bitstamp so people going long on bitmex getting rekt(here is explained better)
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-17/what-caused-last-nights-bitcoin-flash-crash

[citronick]

YEAH! Congrats Phil on the 9th thread. 

[rdluffy]

Nice thread, I learned a lot with you guys
Unfortunatley here in Brazil the price of electricity is very high at the moment and I sold my GPUs

I only have a 1080ti and a RX 570, but not mining, the price is something like 0.20 USD Kw, no way to make profits

I'm just HODLing what I earned mining

I looked for solar energy, but again, the price in Brazil is ridiculous

[FloppyPurpleGherkin]

I borrowed a time machine

Went to the year 2028

philipma's new thread: Altcoin thread 31, BTC passed $1mill this week...

[philipma1957]

I borrowed a time machine

Went to the year 2028

philipma's new thread: Altcoin thread 31, BTC passed $1mill this week...

Thank you for a laugh.

I would be 71 still young enough to spend it.

[Elder III]

If you had a friend/relative that had never mined anything before and wanted to learn --- would you have them start with a Crap CPU on their desktop (not a gamer, so no GPU of any merit available), buy a GPU to mine with, or buy an asic to mine with? 

*** In this individual's case an asic is likely the best long term option due to their power costs, location, time, etc...***

[JaredKaragen]

Staking my interest in the thread.

Presently holding and/or staking some:
BTC, ETC, LTC, BAT, XLM, XMR, and BUB.


Still mining XMR with a single 1070 now.  took all my pre 10-series cards offline, and all my 9-series are long since sold off.

The market has been interesting;  and BTC's reactions to the stock market have been quite unpredictable....   These should be interesting times as the bull market seems quite prevalent and isnt showing signs of pulling back... not yet anyways.

[rs1x]

Can't wait to see what the price is 365 days from today, right around the time the halving should occur.

[philipma1957]

If you had a friend/relative that had never mined anything before and wanted to learn --- would you have them start with a Crap CPU on their desktop (not a gamer, so no GPU of any merit available), buy a GPU to mine with, or buy an asic to mine with?  

*** In this individual's case an asic is likely the best long term option due to their power costs, location, time, etc...***

I would use either

sidehack's r606 for  btc
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5131245.0


jstefanop's apollo for ltc
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5081750.msg48523684#msg48523684


they both use about 100 watts will fit on a desk and are quiet

[nsummy]

If you had a friend/relative that had never mined anything before and wanted to learn --- would you have them start with a Crap CPU on their desktop (not a gamer, so no GPU of any merit available), buy a GPU to mine with, or buy an asic to mine with? 

*** In this individual's case an asic is likely the best long term option due to their power costs, location, time, etc...***

Your statements somewhat conflict.  Wanting to learn is at odds with buying an ASIC for convenience.  I don't think anyone would really recommend buying hardware just for mining in this economy, but if we are talking about strictly something to learn with, then any 4+ core processor (new enough to have aes-ni) and GTX 1050 ti or better.  That should be enough to mine any coin in existence.  As for asics, generally there isn't much learning involved, unless you are troubleshooting hardware problems or have a large installation.  At this point in time I don't think any are worth buying for long term use unless its a sha-256.  My 2 cents  

[philipma1957]

If you had a friend/relative that had never mined anything before and wanted to learn --- would you have them start with a Crap CPU on their desktop (not a gamer, so no GPU of any merit available), buy a GPU to mine with, or buy an asic to mine with? 

*** In this individual's case an asic is likely the best long term option due to their power costs, location, time, etc...***

Your statements somewhat conflict.  Wanting to learn is at odds with buying an ASIC for convenience.  I don't think anyone would really recommend buying hardware just for mining in this economy, but if we are talking about strictly something to learn with, then any 4+ core processor (new enough to have aes-ni) and GTX 1050 ti or better.  That should be enough to mine any coin in existence.  As for asics, generally there isn't much learning involved, unless you are troubleshooting hardware problems or have a large installation.  At this point in time I don't think any are worth buying for long term use unless its a sha-256.  My 2 cents  

The ltc Apollo is 300
The btc r606 is 300

A brick is available. A miner can do solo mining or mine at various pools.

I own two Apollo’s and 1 R606 I mine them solo and it is simply to support the builders of the gear.

Although if I hit a block with either on it would pay for all three of them.

Odds are I will not hit a btc block in my lifetime.

But I could hit a ltc block.

[Elder III]

If you had a friend/relative that had never mined anything before and wanted to learn --- would you have them start with a Crap CPU on their desktop (not a gamer, so no GPU of any merit available), buy a GPU to mine with, or buy an asic to mine with? 

*** In this individual's case an asic is likely the best long term option due to their power costs, location, time, etc...***

Your statements somewhat conflict.  Wanting to learn is at odds with buying an ASIC for convenience.  I don't think anyone would really recommend buying hardware just for mining in this economy, but if we are talking about strictly something to learn with, then any 4+ core processor (new enough to have aes-ni) and GTX 1050 ti or better.  That should be enough to mine any coin in existence.  As for asics, generally there isn't much learning involved, unless you are troubleshooting hardware problems or have a large installation.  At this point in time I don't think any are worth buying for long term use unless its a sha-256.  My 2 cents  

The ltc Apollo is 300
The btc r606 is 300

A brick is available. A miner can do solo mining or mine at various pools.

I own two Apollo’s and 1 R606 I mine them solo and it is simply to support the builders of the gear.

Although if I hit a block with either on it would pay for all three of them.

Odds are I will not hit a btc block in my lifetime.

But I could hit a ltc block.

I should have phrased it differently.  This is someone with very large amounts of free power and would like to make some money.  I don't think their interested in learning about mining just to learn (or geek out like some of us here ...) 

My thought is that they should learn the basics of crypto (from mining to exchanges) before spending a bunch on hardware of any sort.  I am not well versed in asics, so I feel ill qualified to tell them to buy some if I have no experience with them specifically.  On the other hand, while I do know CPU and GPU mining well I don't think it's worth them buying a GPU just to mine with if they won't be using it for gaming or workstation purposes later on.

They are 2 states away from me too, so I can't really assist them directly if they run into trouble. 

How "noob proof" are the Antiminer series?

[philipma1957]

If you had a friend/relative that had never mined anything before and wanted to learn --- would you have them start with a Crap CPU on their desktop (not a gamer, so no GPU of any merit available), buy a GPU to mine with, or buy an asic to mine with?  

*** In this individual's case an asic is likely the best long term option due to their power costs, location, time, etc...***

Your statements somewhat conflict.  Wanting to learn is at odds with buying an ASIC for convenience.  I don't think anyone would really recommend buying hardware just for mining in this economy, but if we are talking about strictly something to learn with, then any 4+ core processor (new enough to have aes-ni) and GTX 1050 ti or better.  That should be enough to mine any coin in existence.  As for asics, generally there isn't much learning involved, unless you are troubleshooting hardware problems or have a large installation.  At this point in time I don't think any are worth buying for long term use unless its a sha-256.  My 2 cents  

The ltc Apollo is 300
The btc r606 is 300

A brick is available. A miner can do solo mining or mine at various pools.

I own two Apollo’s and 1 R606 I mine them solo and it is simply to support the builders of the gear.

Although if I hit a block with either on it would pay for all three of them.

Odds are I will not hit a btc block in my lifetime.

But I could hit a ltc block.

I should have phrased it differently.  This is someone with very large amounts of free power and would like to make some money.  I don't think their interested in learning about mining just to learn (or geek out like some of us here ...)  

My thought is that they should learn the basics of crypto (from mining to exchanges) before spending a bunch on hardware of any sort.  I am not well versed in asics, so I feel ill qualified to tell them to buy some if I have no experience with them specifically.  On the other hand, while I do know CPU and GPU mining well I don't think it's worth them buying a GPU just to mine with if they won't be using it for gaming or workstation purposes later on.

They are 2 states away from me too, so I can't really assist them directly if they run into trouble.  

How "noob proof" are the Antiminer series?

Loud but if they have a lot of free power s9s are cheap.

How much cheap power 100kwatts?

100kwatts will allow you to run 80 s9s.  Buy 100 cheap and not care if some break.

80 s9s use 96kwatts and do. 1.04 ph. If you get them for 300 with psu they cost 30000.

Power is free. They earn 262 a day,with free power so 120 days to break even

[KaydenC]

If you had a friend/relative that had never mined anything before and wanted to learn --- would you have them start with a Crap CPU on their desktop (not a gamer, so no GPU of any merit available), buy a GPU to mine with, or buy an asic to mine with? 

*** In this individual's case an asic is likely the best long term option due to their power costs, location, time, etc...***

Your statements somewhat conflict.  Wanting to learn is at odds with buying an ASIC for convenience.  I don't think anyone would really recommend buying hardware just for mining in this economy, but if we are talking about strictly something to learn with, then any 4+ core processor (new enough to have aes-ni) and GTX 1050 ti or better.  That should be enough to mine any coin in existence.  As for asics, generally there isn't much learning involved, unless you are troubleshooting hardware problems or have a large installation.  At this point in time I don't think any are worth buying for long term use unless its a sha-256.  My 2 cents  

The ltc Apollo is 300
The btc r606 is 300

A brick is available. A miner can do solo mining or mine at various pools.

I own two Apollo’s and 1 R606 I mine them solo and it is simply to support the builders of the gear.

Although if I hit a block with either on it would pay for all three of them.

Odds are I will not hit a btc block in my lifetime.

But I could hit a ltc block.

I should have phrased it differently.  This is someone with very large amounts of free power and would like to make some money.  I don't think their interested in learning about mining just to learn (or geek out like some of us here ...) 

My thought is that they should learn the basics of crypto (from mining to exchanges) before spending a bunch on hardware of any sort.  I am not well versed in asics, so I feel ill qualified to tell them to buy some if I have no experience with them specifically.  On the other hand, while I do know CPU and GPU mining well I don't think it's worth them buying a GPU just to mine with if they won't be using it for gaming or workstation purposes later on.

They are 2 states away from me too, so I can't really assist them directly if they run into trouble. 

How "noob proof" are the Antiminer series?

Ask them to sell you power at 2 cents 

How does someone even get their hands on large amounts of free power, assuming they don't generate it?

[philipma1957]

If you had a friend/relative that had never mined anything before and wanted to learn --- would you have them start with a Crap CPU on their desktop (not a gamer, so no GPU of any merit available), buy a GPU to mine with, or buy an asic to mine with?  

*** In this individual's case an asic is likely the best long term option due to their power costs, location, time, etc...***

Your statements somewhat conflict.  Wanting to learn is at odds with buying an ASIC for convenience.  I don't think anyone would really recommend buying hardware just for mining in this economy, but if we are talking about strictly something to learn with, then any 4+ core processor (new enough to have aes-ni) and GTX 1050 ti or better.  That should be enough to mine any coin in existence.  As for asics, generally there isn't much learning involved, unless you are troubleshooting hardware problems or have a large installation.  At this point in time I don't think any are worth buying for long term use unless its a sha-256.  My 2 cents  

The ltc Apollo is 300
The btc r606 is 300

A brick is available. A miner can do solo mining or mine at various pools.

I own two Apollo’s and 1 R606 I mine them solo and it is simply to support the builders of the gear.

Although if I hit a block with either on it would pay for all three of them.

Odds are I will not hit a btc block in my lifetime.

But I could hit a ltc block.

I should have phrased it differently.  This is someone with very large amounts of free power and would like to make some money.  I don't think their interested in learning about mining just to learn (or geek out like some of us here ...)  

My thought is that they should learn the basics of crypto (from mining to exchanges) before spending a bunch on hardware of any sort.  I am not well versed in asics, so I feel ill qualified to tell them to buy some if I have no experience with them specifically.  On the other hand, while I do know CPU and GPU mining well I don't think it's worth them buying a GPU just to mine with if they won't be using it for gaming or workstation purposes later on.

They are 2 states away from me too, so I can't really assist them directly if they run into trouble.  

How "noob proof" are the Antiminer series?

Ask them to sell you power at 2 cents  

How does someone even get their hands on large amounts of free power, assuming they don't generate it?

Yeah I would cut a deal with him for 4.5 cents a kwatt.  I can profit with that number.

What state is he in and how much power does he have?