Copa América 2019 Discussion Thread & Prediction Pool (registration closed)

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I doubt Brazil will let Argentina pass through. I believe the game will be finished by the end of the first half.
And yes, Chile has best odds to pass. Interesting

I have seen two match of Argentina and I think they are very capable to overcome the obstacle that  Brazil will bring for them. I am predicting a 2 - 1 win for Argentina. The worse will be 1 - 1 draw.

[Harkorede]

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The stage is set for the biggest game of the Copa America 2019, The lineups are out already.

I'm still backing Argentina to win this match but TBH, Brazil team looks pretty more solid right from the goalkeeper to the centre forward.

[tomahawk9]

Well, as expected by the majority, Brazil won. The best team throughout this tournament, and with the better players, had no problems tonight and they're now waiting for either Peru or Chile in the final (I think Chile will go through and will play their 3rd consecutive Copa America final).

IIRC, prior to this game, Brazil had an undefeated record against Argentina in games during KO stages (I think it was 8 wins and 2 draws), last time Argentina won against Brazil was in the 1990 WC with a goal from the legendary player Caniggia. That plus the fact that Argentina has been playing poorly lately, odds were pretty low for an Agentina win (so, if you backed Argetina, you didn't do your homework properly lol).

Now, Messi & Co. will play for the 3rd spot next saturday (literally no one cares about this game tbh), but regardless of the result in that game, i'm expecting a few things after Argentina returns home: The DT getting sacked, and several players announcing their retirement from the NT (Messi, Otamendi, Di Maria, Aguero).

Also, Dani Alves, MVP, what a beast! And he's 36yo!! Fun fact: last time both teams met in an official game (not friendly) was in the Copa America final in 2007, who was the MVP of that game? Dani Alves  What a legend.

[coinlocket$]

And again Argentina failed to win a cup.

If I'm not wrong is almost 30 years for them without any trophy and of course 0 national cups for Messi's carrier.

[swogerino]

And again Argentina failed to win a cup.

If I'm not wrong is almost 30 years for them without any trophy and of course 0 national cups for Messi's carrier.

Yes,Argentina has not win a cup from a long time but the game yesterday was amazing to watch,both teams played the football they know to play and in the end Brazil had the upper edge being in front of their fans gave them a boost.
Many predicted Brazil to win in different sportbooks and they were right.

[big_daddy]

another EXACT in my pocket 
Brasil played a great match, the game was pretty interesting cause if was the opposite I will for sure take a nap
Congrats to Brasil to be qualified for the final, tonight I'm giving the advantage to Chile, but close, I'm predicting only one goal of difference between the two teams

[andrearz]

I don't understand that with Argentina they always look disappointing in crucial matches, many bet that Argentina won but the opposite happened.

[DeathAngel]

Argentina just don’t have anything except Messi do they? Brazil through to the final & I expect them to go on & win the tournament.

[big_daddy]

Argentina just don’t have anything except Messi do they? Brazil through to the final & I expect them to go on & win the tournament.

Sergio Aguero from Manchester City, Lautaro Martinez from Internazionale, Leandro Paredes from PSG, Marcos Acuna from Sporting, Nicolas Tagliafico from Ajax
well, all those players are playing beautiful football in their clubs, it's a "national team" issue here, they have to work on that one, cause everyone is expecting that Messi will win alone the game....

[Harkorede]

I don't understand that with Argentina they always look disappointing in crucial matches, many bet that Argentina won but the opposite happened.

The team is a complete mess, and needs complete overhaul with a new set generation of players just like Italy and Netherlands are doing before it can start to change for the better.

I'm only sorry for messi who is likely to finish is international career without a national trophy, but that doesn't mean he's not one of the greatest player to have graced the football pitch.

[Coyster]

I'm only sorry for messi who is likely to finish is international career without a national trophy, but that doesn't mean he's not one of the greatest player to have graced the football pitch.

Totally correct, Messi is undoubtedly the greatest footballer in the history of the beautiful game, not winning an international trophy with Argentina does add a bit of a question mark on such an illustrious career.

Messi really needed to win this tournament, but coming up against Brazil, the tournaments favorite, I knew they were heading home, I feel last night would be his last for his country.
I think history will have it that fge greatest of all time couldn't conquer in the international stage

[rachman mahesa]

I don't understand that with Argentina they always look disappointing in crucial matches, many bet that Argentina won but the opposite happened.

I am very confused people are betting on Argentina. Even though on the other hand, Brazil was very popular in the match. Previously I had said that Argentina would certainly experience defeat, no matter if it was messi or not. Still the same, Argentina cannot compete in this competition.

[DeathAngel]

Argentina just don’t have anything except Messi do they? Brazil through to the final & I expect them to go on & win the tournament.

Sergio Aguero from Manchester City, Lautaro Martinez from Internazionale, Leandro Paredes from PSG, Marcos Acuna from Sporting, Nicolas Tagliafico from Ajax
well, all those players are playing beautiful football in their clubs, it's a "national team" issue here, they have to work on that one, cause everyone is expecting that Messi will win alone the game....

This generation of Argentina players have lots of talent but they’ve been failing at international level for years. It’s a shame, they really should be winning major trophies.

[snipie]

I doubt Brazil will let Argentina pass through. I believe the game will be finished by the end of the first half.
And yes, Chile has best odds to pass. Interesting

I have seen two match of Argentina and I think they are very capable to overcome the obstacle that  Brazil will bring for them. I am predicting a 2 - 1 win for Argentina. The worse will be 1 - 1 draw.

Unfortunately with 1 leg, we cannot walk. Argentina, w/ or w/out messi, couldn't go too far...because simply the rest of the team is just weak - 10 woods they said..

[Trofo]

For me Argentina has world class options in the attack but rest the team is nowhere near that level. Add to that the fact that Messi isn't playing defense and quite probably Aguero and Lautaro don't play much defense as well and you get very unbalanced squad. They can cover it against weaker team which doesen't have the power to bring the play to Argentina half.

Regarding our competition I had Brazil to win and changed it to draw in the last moment. Trying hard to secure that last spot 

[rdbase]

Argentina just don’t have anything except Messi do they? Brazil through to the final & I expect them to go on & win the tournament.

Sergio Aguero from Manchester City, Lautaro Martinez from Internazionale, Leandro Paredes from PSG, Marcos Acuna from Sporting, Nicolas Tagliafico from Ajax
well, all those players are playing beautiful football in their clubs, it's a "national team" issue here, they have to work on that one, cause everyone is expecting that Messi will win alone the game....

All those big star players just can not seem to get a good team flow going and with all this good experience behind them you would think they would at be able to score atleast one goal against brazil but they failed to do it in last nights game so are out of the competition.
Very sad to see but it is reality of messi not being able to find any other player who he can have a mind link with of where his superb passing skills would be setting them up to put one in the back of the net.
What a waste really.

[Naida_BR]

And again Argentina failed to win a cup.

If I'm not wrong is almost 30 years for them without any trophy and of course 0 national cups for Messi's carrier.

This is why I believe that Ronaldo is the best player in the world.
You can see the difference clearly in their national teams. Messi is so dissapointing in Argentina, and once again he didn't manage to get the team and win the Copa America trophy. From the beginning of the tournament Argentina didn't play well and it was about time for them to be disqualified.

[Pffrt]

I doubt Brazil will let Argentina pass through. I believe the game will be finished by the end of the first half.
And yes, Chile has best odds to pass. Interesting

I have seen two match of Argentina and I think they are very capable to overcome the obstacle that  Brazil will bring for them. I am predicting a 2 - 1 win for Argentina. The worse will be 1 - 1 draw.

I expected the worse is 3:0 win for Brazil but it was 2:0, Messi could have a goal unless the goal bar was a bit higher  
However, who is leading the pool here? I can't see any information about that here, would be better to see the leading one.

And again Argentina failed to win a cup.

If I'm not wrong is almost 30 years for them without any trophy and of course 0 national cups for Messi's carrier.

This is why I believe that Ronaldo is the best player in the world.

Ronaldo can make difference alone and we have seen it a couple of times.

[Coyster]

For me Argentina has world class options in the attack but rest the team is nowhere near that level. Add to that the fact that Messi isn't playing defense and quite probably Aguero and Lautaro don't play much defense as well and you get very unbalanced squad

For sure it's obvious they have a world class attacking firepower, but it's also glaring they fumble just as much as the defenders do, take a look at how poor Messi and kun have been all tournament long, with Just two goals between them, it's a poor statistics and I think they are still far off from winning the tournament.

They'll definitely lose their coach and a host of other senior players, so we'll have to see if the new crop of players have the mettle to bring the trophy to Buenos Aires.

[Harkorede]

However, who is leading the pool here? I can't see any information about that here, would be better to see the leading one.

Here is currently how the pool standing is, Hahay is still leading but a number of users are not far behind.

Ronaldo can make difference alone and we have seen it a couple of times.

I'm not going to argue who the better player is between Messi and Ronaldo, because both of them are really extraordinary in their own field, but I'm only going to say since Ronaldo is more of a center forward and all he has to do for his teams is to be clinical, then It's probably easier compared to when the whole team player has to go through you just like it happens with Messi.