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The history of mankind should learn people smth. But, it is not. Many diseases dissapeared just because of vaccines. But some people forgot about that. They think that it has nothing to do with them. The fear of vaccination is stronger than the fear of death. I'm afraid that many deadly diseases can return someday.
There are so many cases of patients with measles in my country, but it still not encourage most people to vaccinate their children. They think it's a light child disease. And never speak about complications, that they children may have after measles.
How is the situation with vaccination in your country? Why do you think many people against vaccination?
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May 30, 2019, 11:00:12 AM |
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The history of mankind should learn people smth. But, it is not. Many diseases dissapeared just because of vaccines. But some people forgot about that. They think that it has nothing to do with them. The fear of vaccination is stronger than the fear of death. I'm afraid that many deadly diseases can return someday.
There are so many cases of patients with measles in my country, but it still not encourage most people to vaccinate their children. They think it's a light child disease. And never speak about complications, that they children may have after measles.
How is the situation with vaccination in your country? Why do you think many people against vaccination?
those are muslim extremists or black afriacan racists or potentially future chinese and indian racists/expansionsits that want to "zerg" their enemies other civilisations or what they think of what is the "other" because they think that vaccination slows down the human population growth, so the african nature and social infrastructure have at least a chance of being sufficient
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May 30, 2019, 01:28:57 PM |
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People think of many things.
Some think that the side effects outweigh the benefit for certain vaccines, which in certain cases MAY be fair. That'd be a choice that would be made for individual vaccines based on the history of side effects on your children. This is the portion that I understand.
There are some people that think that the people that are making and telling people to get vaccines are in this major effort to take over the world, that vaccines cause autism, and so on and so forth --> These are the people that should be ostracized by society.
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May 30, 2019, 02:29:41 PM |
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those are muslim extremists or black afriacan racists or potentially future chinese and indian racists/expansionsits that want to "zerg" their enemies other civilisations or what they think of what is the "other"
because they think that vaccination slows down the human population growth, so the african nature and social infrastructure have at least a chance of being sufficient
What I find ironic is that this anti-vacc movement started in America. From what we know about North America's history, one reason Europeans managed to settle it fairly easily was when they arrived, the larger native settlements has already been depopulated by a more recent contact that has spread diseases. In Central and South America, the disease came right with the conquistadores.
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May 30, 2019, 03:01:57 PM |
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They still haven't shown us their safety reports, or their long-term safety reports. It seems that they don't have them, even though they are required by law. Do you trust them? Good. You see my Bitcoin address down in the signature area of this post. Trust me to hold a couple of bitcoins for you. Go ahead. After all, I'm way more trustworthy than they are, right?, since Bitcoin has been safety tested, but vaccines haven't. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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May 31, 2019, 09:51:45 AM |
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What is in mind of those, who against vaccination?
They have no mind.
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May 31, 2019, 11:59:20 AM |
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The anti vaccination movement is based on some unfortunate accidents that actually took place. In fact, some were more of abuse cases than accidents. For instance this use of expired vaccines in China: https://www.voanews.com/a/use-of-expired-vaccine-in-jiangsu-sparks-public-scare-in-china/4745123.htmlSome vaccines were proven to cause Encephalitis that lead to brain damage. There are many more severe side effects, but they happen to maybe 1% of the vaccinated children. It's still a high enough percentage to make some people consider taking the natural way. I don't support it, but I can understand those who do.
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May 31, 2019, 05:20:23 PM |
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The history of mankind should learn people smth. But, it is not. Many diseases dissapeared just because of vaccines. But some people forgot about that. They think that it has nothing to do with them. The fear of vaccination is stronger than the fear of death. I'm afraid that many deadly diseases can return someday.
There are so many cases of patients with measles in my country, but it still not encourage most people to vaccinate their children. They think it's a light child disease. And never speak about complications, that they children may have after measles.
How is the situation with vaccination in your country? Why do you think many people against vaccination?
Vaccination is something that helps humanity be protected. However, it should be kept a balance because it can do a lot of harm if vaccines are consumed without any control. In my country vaccination policies are in a good balance and it is mostly used when there is a pandemia or epidemia.
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May 31, 2019, 06:15:02 PM |
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You guys need to forget about the old vaccines, and look seriously at the modern vaccines. These are full of poisons and are designed to reduce fertility and weaken immune systems. They are also a major profit source for Big Pharma, and a way to divert funding from more productive health care. If vaccines really worked, then it wouldn't matter if some people chose not to vaccinate, as the "protected" readers of propaganda would not be affected. The very fact that they need to impose their ill considered injection of poison and disease into healthy people indicates that vaccines are not effective.
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May 31, 2019, 08:00:09 PM |
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There aren't any safety studies. If there were, they would be readily presented. But Big Pharm can't present something they don't have.
Part II: Cholesterol Lowering Medications and Vaccines Are Safe? Where Are the Safety Studies?Recall that in the fake placebo, polysorbate 20 was a main ingredient. I surmised that perhaps the high rate of serious adverse effects in the fake placebo was due to the polysorbate 20. Please refer to my original blog from May 3rd, 2019 "New Cholesterol-Lowering Medications Associated with 25% SEVERE Adverse Effects!"
Polysorbate is used widely in medicines as a dispersing agent—it helps the medicine absorb better. Polysorbate 80 is also found in many vaccines. As I will show you in this post, similar to polysorbate 20, polysorbate 80 has not been properly studied–especially as an injectable agent.
The Powers-That-Be state that vaccines are safe and effective. To make the 'safety' claim, one would think that there must be many studies on the safety of injectable items before they are allowed to come to market. If the FDA, CDC, and HHS were doing their jobs, there would be appropriate safety studies on injectable ingredients. However, for over 25 years, I have been writing about the failure of our Governmental agencies to oversee The Big Pharma Cartel. This colossal failure is a large part of why we are spending so much money on health care yet we continually rank last (or next to last), when compared to other Western countries, on every health indicator according to the WHO. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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June 01, 2019, 02:20:41 AM |
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those are muslim extremists or black afriacan racists or potentially future chinese and indian racists/expansionsits that want to "zerg" their enemies other civilisations or what they think of what is the "other"
because they think that vaccination slows down the human population growth, so the african nature and social infrastructure have at least a chance of being sufficient
What I find ironic is that this anti-vacc movement started in America. From what we know about North America's history, one reason Europeans managed to settle it fairly easily was when they arrived, the larger native settlements has already been depopulated by a more recent contact that has spread diseases. In Central and South America, the disease came right with the conquistadores. I'm not sure I really get the irony. Disease always comes with contact with distant groups of people. This wasn't appreciated in the 15thC. The germ theory of disease wasn't developed until the end of the 19th C. And the people in North America now have NOTHING to do with the conquistadors. In fact the conquistadors (although European) had little to do with what's now the United States.
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June 01, 2019, 02:53:49 AM |
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Nobody has figure out how to cure the disease of death. All the medical is doing with vaccines is speeding it up a little. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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June 01, 2019, 07:13:50 AM |
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The anti-vaxxers are primarily influenced by mis/dis-information that has as of recently been spread by social media. Social media such as Facebook has allowed people to spread inaccurate information without any real damage to their reputations, or any other ramifications.
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June 01, 2019, 02:19:36 PM |
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^^^ You or anyone are certainly welcome to provide some safety reports. We would love to see some long-term safety reports, scientifically done, that show how safe vaccines are. Please show us something that contradicts the CDC's own reports about all the bad stuff in their own vaccines. If you really trust medical people that much, please trust me by donating a bitcoin to my address listed below. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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The anti-vaxxers are primarily influenced by mis/dis-information that has as of recently been spread by social media. Social media such as Facebook has allowed people to spread inaccurate information without any real damage to their reputations, or any other ramifications.
^^^ You or anyone are certainly welcome to provide some safety reports. We would love to see some long-term safety reports, scientifically done, that show how safe vaccines are. Please show us something that contradicts the CDC's own reports about all the bad stuff in their own vaccines.
I found this on the CDC website, that cites many studies over many years that say there is no link between the thimerosal found in vaccines and Autism. I would also encourage anyone with concerns about their children receiving vaccines to review the CDC Vaccine Safety Publications by Year website. Not every child is healthy enough to receive vaccines, and when this is the case, the child's pediatrician will advise the child's partent this. When many children do not receive vaccines for reasons other than not being healthy enough, there is a risk the child will get sick with an illness the vaccine is supposed to prevent, and the illness spreads to many other unvaccinated children, including those who legitimately cannot receive the vaccine.
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^^^ Nice links. But we can see that the CDC could have easily turned over the testing reports to RFK if they had any: ICAN was therefore forced to file a lawsuit to force HHS to either provide copies of its biennial vaccine safety reports to Congress or admit it never filed these reports. The result of the lawsuit is that HHS had to finally and shockingly admit that it never, not even once, submitted a single biennial report to Congress detailing the improvements in vaccine safety. This speaks volumes to the seriousness by which vaccine safety is treated at HHS and heightens the concern that HHS doesn’t have a clue as to the actual safety profile of the now 29 doses, and growing, of vaccines given by one year of age.
Despite being charged with the responsibility of investigating and improving vaccine safety DHHS has apparently failed to meet even the most basic aspects of this duty by failing to file a single report for the past thirty years. Three decades have passed since NVICA was put into place, and DHHS has never so much as raised a finger towards vaccine safety — an issue which should be a top priority, especially given the fact that NVICA erases industry responsibility regarding vaccine injuries. Nice links you have there. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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June 01, 2019, 10:49:41 PM |
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Do you have evidence that vaccines are, in fact unsafe or lead to any kind of mental illness? Beyond the CDC not filing reports with congress....
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As far as I'm concerned, the CDC has been stone-cold busted covering up data which showed a problem with MMR and trying to dispose of the data to hide the problem. This is described in the documentary 'vaxxed'. Nobody has ever officially denied anything which whistleblower Dr. Thompson said so I have no reason to doubt that it is 100% true.
Because of the above, it is simple logic that NOTHING which the CDC says or does vis-a-vis vaccinations (at the very least) can be trusted. This is a simple fallout of logical rigour people!
Most of the time a pro-vaxxer will shove CDC literature in a person face to 'make a point.' It is valueless. Or worse! This is a corrupt organization which is bought off by big pharma. Worse still, the mindest of 'to many people', 'maximize profits', and 'control the plebs' is well represented among the people who sit on the boards of the corporations who own the big pharma corporations and it is exactly these people who call the shots. Both within the corporations R&D, and within the CDC who's top management will revolve right into a 6 or 7 figure jobs when their 'public service' is done.
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June 03, 2019, 12:36:34 PM |
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You guys need to forget about the old vaccines, and look seriously at the modern vaccines. These are full of poisons and are designed to reduce fertility and weaken immune systems. They are also a major profit source for Big Pharma, and a way to divert funding from more productive health care. If vaccines really worked, then it wouldn't matter if some people chose not to vaccinate, as the "protected" readers of propaganda would not be affected. The very fact that they need to impose their ill considered injection of poison and disease into healthy people indicates that vaccines are not effective.
Thats a silly argument, just because some people are vaccinated it doesnt mean they are totally immune and the disease could evolve while active in other people.
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June 03, 2019, 12:40:50 PM |
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Do you have evidence that vaccines are, in fact unsafe or lead to any kind of mental illness? Beyond the CDC not filing reports with congress....
I read that vaccines are the tool to spread the unknown disease to dense populated countries then they will make profits from selling medicine for that diseases.
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