What is in mind of those, who against vaccination?

[BADecker]

many people oppose vaccination in my country because sometimes the vaccine makes children sick.
the fear experienced by parents for child vaccination is spreading because of vaccine errors that seem to be only as experimental material.
if there were socialization and openness to the material used for the vaccine it might be a different story.

Only sometimes. How about when they stopped giving their children vital vaccines, what happened? Observe and get updated to the news, you most probably notice that children tend to get sick oftenly

Anyway, why they are just reacting soo very late? I presume that vaccines in your country are mandated to be given on childrens many decades ago 'til now and yet nothing bad happens but now they suddenly doubt its effectiveness? I can't understand why they're doing this.

Not all vaccines are created equal.

The medical wants to make money. If they can make vaccines work long enough to hook people on them, that's what they will do. Once the people are hooked, it's then that they start using vaccines to keep people in a state of moderate health. Why do they do this? Several reasons. But the biggest is to get the people to have to come back to buy more medical.

In addition, legally mandated safety testing on vaccines hasn't been done. When you or I break the law, we are stopped from doing so in the future. If we don't stop, we are sent to prison. Why does the medical keep on breaking the law by not doing the mandated safety studies, but they don't go to prison?

Here's why. Too much money in it. Government people are being paid off to look the other way.

Bottom line... $$$money$$$.

[vladimirhf]

Well, despite all the obscurantism of our times, science continues to advance. I hope that one day the facts will start to be taken into consideration, even by those who still prefer "opinions".

https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/10/were-closer-to-eradicating-polio-from-the-planet-2-of-3-strains-now-wiped-out/

[tvbcof]

Well, despite all the obscurantism of our times, science continues to advance. I hope that one day the facts will start to be taken into consideration, even by those who still prefer "opinions".

https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/10/were-closer-to-eradicating-polio-from-the-planet-2-of-3-strains-now-wiped-out/

This Arstechnica article makes no efforts to explore other valid ecological questions about the phenomenon.  It presents very questionable conjectures as 'fact'.  This is not science.  It's propaganda.  To their credit they do mention that the mutant viral strain from the vaccines are maiming a lot more people than the wild types but they carefully word things so that an ignorant reader's eyes will glaze over.

As best I can tell, you, and most 'normal people, consider something to be a 'fact' if it was communicated by mainstream media and an 'opinion' if it is not.

I can tell you that I will not trust any 'facts' presented by those who routinely rely on fraud, pay-offs, re-writing history, bogus science, and base scare tactics to get people to believe what they want people to believe.  The fact that they have to employ these tactics tells me that they don't have a case and are hiding some things.

There will always be a contingent who thinks like me.

[vladimirhf]

There will always be a contingent who thinks like me.

yes, there will always be ignorants by choice. Maybe you don't understand the word "erradication".

Well, but anyway you can find more information about this work here:

http://polioeradication.org/tools-and-library/policy-reports/certification-reports/global-certification-commission/

and here

https://www.cdc.gov/cpr/polioviruscontainment/implementing_containment.htm
https://wwwn.cdc.gov/dcs/contactus/form 800-232-4636

btw, my favorite satoshi's quote:

If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.

It's always present and multipurpose 

[tvbcof]

There will always be a contingent who thinks like me.

yes, there will always be ignorants by choice. Maybe you don't understand the word "erradication".

Well, but anyway you can find more information about this work here:

http://polioeradication.org/tools-and-library/policy-reports/certification-reports/global-certification-commission/

and here

https://www.cdc.gov/cpr/polioviruscontainment/implementing_containment.htm
https://wwwn.cdc.gov/dcs/contactus/form 800-232-4636

Most of these 'trade organizations' are dedicated to milking the {insert disease here} franchise and do everything they can to make sure that the money keeps flowing from the vitcims into their coffers.  That means putting a dedicated and well funded effort into NOT finding out what is actually going on with the disease.

The CDC has a long history of corruption, data destruction, big-pharma collusion, etc.

Please give me one valid reason why I should take anything these 'information' sources as anything resembling 'truth'?

I read the crap these outfits put out mostly to find out what the enemy (of humanity) is up to and what strategies they are pursuing.  If a legitimate political entity cleaned house in these organizations I might go back to trusting some of what they say, but I don't see any way we'll (the U.S.) will ever again have a political system which could or would do it.

[Mandoy]

The history of mankind should learn people smth. But, it is not. Many diseases dissapeared just because of vaccines. But some people forgot about that. They think that it has nothing to do with them. The fear of vaccination is stronger than the fear of death. I'm afraid that many deadly diseases can return someday.

There are so many cases of patients with measles in my country, but it still not encourage most people to vaccinate their children. They think it's a light child disease. And never speak about complications, that they children may have after measles.

How is the situation with vaccination in your country? Why do you think many people against vaccination?

The reason depends on what kind of vaccines being used. In the past vaccines has helped a lot of people combat disease but is not the case nowadays. There are now vaccines that instead of helping it actually causes sickness and death. Here in the Phillipines hundreds of children died from being injected with the compulsory dengvaxia vaccines in the schools. After the vaccination months after children being vaccinated were sent to the hospital and many have died.

We cannot blame people to be wary of vaccines because of the death toll parents are now afraid to let their children take vaccination.

[tvbcof]

...
We cannot blame people to be wary of vaccines because of the death toll parents are now afraid to let their children take vaccination.

Actually, it is perfectly possible to blame the people who are wary and don't tow the corp/gov party line.  If everyone just shut up and let big pharma and their bought-and-paid-for politicians do whatever they wanted without anyone calling attention to the damage, the 'problem' of people's perceptions of vaccines would be greatly reduced.

So, to a degree it is legitimate the blame the 'problem' on those who study the science and think for themselves.  Maybe the problems wouldn't be such a big issue if they just shut their mouths, protected their own children as best they can, and minded their own business.  Indeed, their own unvaccinated children will be even more competitive when the majority of their peers are vaccine damaged.  The problem is more with people who are educated AND have ethics which won't let them just keep their mouths shut and go with the flow.  Fortunately for corp/gov there are relatively few such people in this Ven diagram.

[BADecker]

If everyone just shut up and let big pharma and their bought-and-paid-for politicians do whatever they wanted without anyone calling attention to the damage, the 'problem' of people's perceptions of vaccines would be greatly reduced.

And so would the number of people... be greatly reduced.

 

[vladimirhf]

Most of these 'trade organizations' are dedicated to milking the {insert disease here} franchise and do everything they can to make sure that the money keeps flowing from the vitcims into their coffers.  That means putting a dedicated and well funded effort into NOT finding out what is actually going on with the disease.

The CDC has a long history of corruption, data destruction, big-pharma collusion, etc.

Please give me one valid reason why I should take anything these 'information' sources as anything resembling 'truth'?

I read the crap these outfits put out mostly to find out what the enemy (of humanity) is up to and what strategies they are pursuing.  If a legitimate political entity cleaned house in these organizations I might go back to trusting some of what they say, but I don't see any way we'll (the U.S.) will ever again have a political system which could or would do it.

We know that the industry prefers to sell medicines for continuous use. We also know that in the US there is over-prescription of opioids. We also know that many diseases could be treated with simple cheap natural medicine. But this is not the case of vaccines. Several diseases have been virtually extinct where mass vaccination exists. You can't blame big pharma for everything. they did this then they do AAAALLL THAAAT!!!! It's insane, calm down, hold on. check your sources carefully. read contradictory opinions, but look for qualified ones. ask your question to doctors - yes, doctors. medicine people. not your survivalist uncle.

[BADecker]

Most of these 'trade organizations' are dedicated to milking the {insert disease here} franchise and do everything they can to make sure that the money keeps flowing from the vitcims into their coffers.  That means putting a dedicated and well funded effort into NOT finding out what is actually going on with the disease.

The CDC has a long history of corruption, data destruction, big-pharma collusion, etc.

Please give me one valid reason why I should take anything these 'information' sources as anything resembling 'truth'?

I read the crap these outfits put out mostly to find out what the enemy (of humanity) is up to and what strategies they are pursuing.  If a legitimate political entity cleaned house in these organizations I might go back to trusting some of what they say, but I don't see any way we'll (the U.S.) will ever again have a political system which could or would do it.

We know that the industry prefers to sell medicines for continuous use. We also know that in the US there is over-prescription of opioids. We also know that many diseases that could be treated with simple cheap natural medicine. But this is not the case with vaccines. Several diseases have been virtually extinct where mass vaccination exists. You can't blame big pharma for everything. they did this then they do AAAALLL THAAAT!!!! It's insane, calm down, hold on. check your sources carefully. read contradictory opinions, but look for qualified ones. ask your question to doctors - yes, doctors. medicine people. not your survivalist uncle.

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Here's what's wrong with with the pro-vaccine part of your evaluation.

1. We don't know equivocally that vaccines are the cause of of any disease extinction. At best all we see is the timing... that the vaccine administration seemed to be around for some time before the eradication of the disease. We absolutely for a fact don't know that it was the vaccines that did the job. It might easily have been something else, like a form of hygiene. But even if vaccines do work....

2. We know that not all vaccines are created equal. That is, we don't know which vaccines from which companies from which batches are the simple, working vaccine, and which have all kinds of extra stuff in them that is or could be poison.

3. #2 is authenticated by the CDC's own websites in areas.

4. We know through the efforts of Robert Kennedy, Jr., that the medical hasn't been doing the vaccine safety tests that have been required by law for the last 30 years. And now that independent labs...

5. Safety testing by independent labs has shown that the majority of vaccines are not safe in some ways, and some of them are downright dangerous and full of poisons and all kinds of other things, for which there seems to be no reason for them being in there.

6. The vaccine companies have been lying about the safety of the vaccines throughout all the new findings about the dangers of vaccines. They lie about the safety even when they post the poison list right on the label. Sounds like they are about as far from ethical as anyone can get.

When you put all this stuff together, today's vaccines aren't safe. Why not? Nobody ever proves to you that the batch where your particular vaccine came from was one of those that was safety tested. They might tell you that it is all safety tested good, but they don't prove it to you by showing you the reports, with the witnesses who did the tests.

Today's vaccines are simply dangerous.

[styca]

There may be some dangers in vaccines, sure, nothing is 100% safe.
Would you rather have the vaccine or the disease, though?
It's kind of skewed in countries where almost everyone is vaccinated, because these diseases just aren't seen as a threat anymore.
Measles is a good example of this. It's deadly. That's why we have vaccines. Look at the numbers on this chart. This is hundreds of thousands of people dying each year from a disease that we can vaccinate against. Vaccination is a huge help. That's why the number of deaths is no longer in the millions each year.


https://www.cdc.gov/globalhealth/resources/reports/annual/2017/global-immunization-division-gid.html

[tvbcof]

There may be some dangers in vaccines, sure, nothing is 100% safe.
Would you rather have the vaccine or the disease, though?
It's kind of skewed in countries where almost everyone is vaccinated, because these diseases just aren't seen as a threat anymore.
Measles is a good example of this. It's deadly. That's why we have vaccines. Look at the numbers on this chart. This is hundreds of thousands of people dying each year from a disease that we can vaccinate against. Vaccination is a huge help. That's why the number of deaths is no longer in the millions each year.


https://www.cdc.gov/globalhealth/resources/reports/annual/2017/global-immunization-division-gid.html

The CDC was stone cold busted covering for the MMR vaccine by chaning study protocols and destroying data via whistle-blower Thompson and nobody that I'm aware of has ever denied his charges.  Why should anyone rely on numbers from that corrupt organization?

Anyway, the ailment only became 'deadly' when the powers that be started marketing as such:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDb0ZS3vB9g

I was only able to find that vid again on Jewtube because I knew hash string, and I only knew that because I had downloaded the video as I do with most vids I expect to be completely censored rather than just hidden.

[BADecker]

What is in mind of those who are against vaccination?

The saving of their own lives along with a bit of good health.

[TECSHARE]

https://www.who.int/csr/don/24-september-2019-polio-outbreak-the-philippines/en/

[tvbcof]

https://www.who.int/csr/don/24-september-2019-polio-outbreak-the-philippines/en/

We need the polio vaccination program to ensure that the poliomyelitis virus doesn't go completely extinct.

It's not nice to drive organisms into extinction, you know?  Polio owes Bill and Melinda Gates a debt of gratitude for their efforts at preserving biodiversity (of human disease causing organisms) which were severely threatened by advances in human nutrition and hygiene.

Edit:  The above won't make sense to someone who didn't read the first para of the link:

"On 19 September 2019, the Philippines declared an outbreak of polio. Two cases have been reported to date, both caused by vaccine-derived poliovirus type 2 (VDPV2). Environmental samples taken from sewage in Manila on 13 August and a waterway in Davao on 22 August have also tested positive for VDPV2."

Some people could read it and still not know what it means.  Other pro-vaxers would apply their brand of logic and know that it is better for their kids to have the vaccine-strain polio virus than none at all because their knowledge and logic came from their beloved and trusted health care leaders (corp/gov).

[BADecker]

https://www.who.int/csr/don/24-september-2019-polio-outbreak-the-philippines/en/

We need the polio vaccination program to ensure that the poliomyelitis virus doesn't go completely extinct.

It's not nice to drive organisms into extinction, you know?  Polio owes Bill and Melinda Gates a debt of gratitude for their efforts at preserving biodiversity (of human disease causing organisms) which were severely threatened by advances in human nutrition and hygiene.

Actually you are right! All life or near-life has its place in the ecology of whole earth life.

Earth is gradually dying. Life is gradually going extinct. There is devolution all around. We should be freezing and saving specimens of all life, so that we can analyze it better when we have better techniques. Why? Because all life has its good points. It all has good use in some way. We might need it for something good later.

I expect that you weren't at all serious the way you said it. But you are right.

Things aren't as bad as one might think... about extinctions, that is. I don't know that I believe in the hollow Earth idea. But in this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kD4xdqdllw - there are some scientific things that are said to be hollow Earth evidences, but are actual facts. One of them has to do with the thousands of new life forms that have been found. Some of them have supposedly been extinct for a million years.

The good point is that some of these life forms probably have microbes within them that will prove beneficial. I don't know the exact location of the part about the new life forms on Earth. Seems to me that it is about halfway in. So, watch it if yo are interested.

[bananacue]

They think that it is just a one shot vaccine without realizing its preventive measure against particular disease. Here in the Philippines the parents are in fear of having their child taking vaccine because of the dengvaxia vaccine controversy, in which many children died because of the alleged complications of such. However, it is not yet proven. Now they are thinking the side effects of the vaccine instead of its effect which provide active immunity from particular disease.

[BADecker]

^^^ Except that vaccine benefits haven't been proven. Do you have proof other than talk? And vaccine safety hasn't been proven.

Since other people have shown the dangers of vaccines, and since nobody has proven that there are benefits to vaccines - it may have been timing - good idea to not get vaccinated. After all, your kids are counting on you to do good for them. So you need proof rather than some dimwit doctor telling you something that makes him a bunch of money if he keeps saying it.

[kro55]

The main reason polio virus is still alive is because of people mentality in developing countries that polio vaccine is not good for kids and pharmaceutical companies earning by selling it. That's one of reason why they abstain there kids from polio vaccine.

[tvbcof]

The main reason polio virus is still alive is because of people mentality in developing countries that polio vaccine is not good for kids and pharmaceutical companies earning by selling it. That's one of reason why they abstain there kids from polio vaccine.

Not according to Dr. Carol Baker.  She prescribes getting rid of all the white people in the United States because it is the third-world immigrants who want to get vaccinated the most.

This was at a conference populated disproportionately by (((certain people))) who sometimes consider themselves to be 'chosen' and to have souls which are from holiness.  All others (white, black, brown, yellow) are of a different seed and their souls which stem from the demonic spheres.  We goyim are animalistic by nature and need the guiding hand of God's Chosen People to have a place in the world to come.  Look it up!  Seems that we also need certain guidance for our immune system's as well.

Anyway, it is the highly educated elite who are demonstrably resistant to corp/gov vaccine regimes.  Scientists, engineers, etc.  The poor and the desperate generally have no trouble selling their immune systems to Big Brother for a bowl of rice just as Dr. Baker noted.