What is in mind of those, who against vaccination?

[BADecker]

The medical is going down, as far as the $profits go, at least. So, they are doing all they can to make sure their profits remain. They almost can't lose... one way or the other.


Cancer genes in MMR vaccines

The whole Vaccine protocol was essentially grandfathered against having to meet modern scientific methodology.  Except that it has carried on and on to the point that all the pigs arrived at the same trough.  Now it is blowing up with real damage been inflicted at levels not apparent in the past.
 
Conjecture:  The principle driver of childhood cancers is vaccination itself.
Conjecture:   The principle cause of many rare cancers are vaccines.
 
Neither of these may be true at all. Population studies may well tell us a much different tale.
 
It is clear though that it is high time to ask..


 
Bombshell: After finding of hundreds of cancer genes in MMR vaccines, FDA researcher admits viral cells in vaccines may “activate” genes and spread more disease.

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[PavelMed]

In the head of people who do not vaccinate their children sits a monkey with a tambourine. In my country, children without vaccinations were not allowed to go to kindergarten before. And parents were forced to get vaccinated.

[BADecker]

In the head of people who do not vaccinate their children sits a monkey with a tambourine. In my country, children without vaccinations were not allowed to go to kindergarten before. And parents were forced to get vaccinated.

At least the unvaccinated kids could listen to the music in their heads. The vaccinated ones lose their ability to hear anything. It's not that their heads are empty, or even solid rock... more like mush.

[tvbcof]

In the head of people who do not vaccinate their children sits a monkey with a tambourine. In my country, children without vaccinations were not allowed to go to kindergarten before. And parents were forced to get vaccinated.

Wow!  What totalitarian state is that?  China?

The dream of such control is pretty universal among leaders through history, and forced vaccination is the dream that most political leaderships around the world share, but so far mostly non-democtratic dictatorships seem to have been able to pull it off.

The sad fallout is that those who have been indoctrinated into believing that every vaccine that the vaccine makers want to sell is necessary for the public good convinced themselves that it is more important that everyone get their flu shots than it is to have a non-totalitarian leadership.  Thus they will (and largely do) welcome a totalitarian form of government.  To save us all from one another.  Pretty classic 'divide and conquer.'

They've done the same trick with global warming, and there is a strong correlation between those who fell for both tricks.

At least the unvaccinated kids could listen to the music in their heads. The vaccinated ones lose their ability to hear anything. It's not that their heads are empty, or even solid rock... more like mush.

Such people are unlikely to pose a threat to the leadership.  And they will be willing servants because if they are not they won't get help for the chronic health issues that they have complements of the vaccination.

  'Diet, Injection, and Injunction will combine, at an early age, to produce the kind of people that the leadership finds desirable.'

[BADecker]

In the head of people who do not vaccinate their children sits a monkey with a tambourine. In my country, children without vaccinations were not allowed to go to kindergarten before. And parents were forced to get vaccinated.

Wow!  What totalitarian state is that?  China?

The dream of such control is pretty universal among leaders through history, and forced vaccination is the dream that most political leaderships around the world share, but so far mostly non-democtratic dictatorships seem to have been able to pull it off.

The sad fallout is that those who have been indoctrinated into believing that every vaccine that the vaccine makers want to sell is necessary for the public good convinced themselves that it is more important that everyone get their flu shots than it is to have a non-totalitarian leadership.  Thus they will (and largely do) welcome a totalitarian form of government.  To save us all from one another.  Pretty classic 'divide and conquer.'

They've done the same trick with global warming, and there is a strong correlation between those who fell for both tricks.

At least the unvaccinated kids could listen to the music in their heads. The vaccinated ones lose their ability to hear anything. It's not that their heads are empty, or even solid rock... more like mush.

Such people are unlikely to pose a threat to the leadership.  And they will be willing servants because if they are not they won't get help for the chronic health issues that they have complements of the vaccination.

  'Diet, Injection, and Injunction will combine, at an early age, to produce the kind of people that the leadership finds desirable.'

I was simply trying to answer his point gently. As you well know, there must be some trick that we are all falling for, because we all die. So, is it even personally profitable to even waste time taking part in this forum?

[TECSHARE]

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/11/no_author/healthsacrificial-virgins-a-must-see-documentary-about-young-girls-being-severely-damaged-by-hpv-vaccines/

[BADecker]

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/11/no_author/healthsacrificial-virgins-a-must-see-documentary-about-young-girls-being-severely-damaged-by-hpv-vaccines/

And watch the video in the link to find out how to flush aluminum from the body before (or after) you get Alzheimer's.

[tvbcof]

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/11/no_author/healthsacrificial-virgins-a-must-see-documentary-about-young-girls-being-severely-damaged-by-hpv-vaccines/

And watch the video in the link to find out how to flush aluminum from the body before (or after) you get Alzheimer's.

The way I do it is pretty simple.  Drink water which is naturally high in silica.  Certain deep wells produce such water.

I actually don't drink it a lot because I don't have much reason to have a lot of aluminum in my system, but for my family who got dosed up (including my daughter who was 'accidentally' given soap (in the vitamin K), and AAHSA nano-particles in the Hep-B shot in when she was taken out of our sight for a brief time) they do drink such water.

Speaking of my daughter, she was lively an alert at birth.  Over the course of the next several weeks she declined until one day she slept almost the entire 24 hours.  About a week after she was scheduled for her 'well baby' shots she started to perk back up.  Needless to say, we skipped all of the vaccines.  At 4 months she is very alert, sleeps all night and plays all day, is 6.7 KG is starting to say a few words, etc.  She got a stuffy nose once and it went away in a few days.  Also a bit of a cough which also went away in a few days.  She's got a sister in public school who brings home everything under the sun which is exactly the way I want it.

I think it a very strong hypothesis that the 'vaccine schedule' is designed specifically so that parents never see their kid in a normal state.  There is no logical risk-based reason associated with the diseases that the vaccines are advertised to protect against for 'the schedule' to be followed with a high degree of rigor, yet that's promoted fanatically by the corp/gov medical system.  There IS a reason for the schedule to be followed rigorously if the goal is to keep kids chronically abnormal (while maiming and killing few enough of them that the damage is not obvious to the highly propagandized public.)

[Coinprenuer]

The problem with vaccination is religion. Shifting from the way of life which you've grown up with in a long time isn't easy. In time, we will all be healed of our ignorance.

[tvbcof]

The problem with vaccination is religion. Shifting from the way of life which you've grown up with in a long time isn't easy. In time, we will all be healed of our ignorance.

I grew up as an Athiest and am one to this day.  Science was and is my religion, though I've recently mixed in history which has given me a lot of respect for the _man_ known as Jesus Christ.

Because I considered myself an Atheist and an enthusiast of science I bought all of the 'science' about vaccines on the basis that 'all the top scientists' worked very hard to develop them, and surely these pure-as-the-driven-snow scientists would be very careful and would never harm anyone.  As recently as mid-way through the life of this forum I basically had no questions about vaccines.

Then I actually dug in and analyzed things for myself and listened to the evidence presented by scientists who didn't subscribe to the mainstream corp/gov medical/industrial complex narrative.  Along with some other socio-political observations I passed right through the 'five stages of vaccine awareness':

[BADecker]

Eating food must be a religion. Look at all the fat people there are around.

Vaccination is a religion.

[TECSHARE]

https://www.activistpost.com/2019/11/fda-shocking-study-cells-used-in-vaccines-contaminated-with-serious-viruses-including-cancer.html

[Bagaji]

There are so many things on the mind of those who are against vaccination. Some of them in some part of Africa are of the believe that vaccination reduce birth rate while some are of the believe that since it is given free of charge it must have some negative effect on human if they take it, this is because they attached more value to what they paid for than what is free of charge.

[BADecker]

https://www.activistpost.com/2019/11/fda-shocking-study-cells-used-in-vaccines-contaminated-with-serious-viruses-including-cancer.html

But worldwide, mostly it's safety.     

[star7dust]

They believe in come kind of conspiracy theory I think, as if vaccines were created to exterminate people. Or some just don't believe they really work. Or they are too lazy. With this kind of approach, if the plague appears again, I won't be surprised

[BADecker]

They believe in come kind of conspiracy theory I think, as if vaccines were created to exterminate people. Or some just don't believe they really work. Or they are too lazy. With this kind of approach, if the plague appears again, I won't be surprised

Not all anti-vaxxers feel or think the same way. But look at it from the other direction.

A high percent of problems could be eliminated through good hygiene. And, it is often the societies that don't have the best hygiene where the vaxx people do their vaccinations before introducing the good hygiene. And, then the good hygiene is introduced after the vaccinations, so that people can't tell if it was the vaccinations or the hygiene that helped them. Looks kinda suspicious.

Now we are finding that the vaccines are doing more damage than good, sometimes by spreading the actual disease that they are supposed to prevent, and other times by causing new diseases that are worse than the ones that they are trying to prevent. Even the medical documentation shows us this.

All you have to do is look on the sides of medicine bottle to see the words "May cause...," and then a whole bunch of side effects are listed. But they don't have to legally list the side effects of vaccines, so they don't. And they don't even look for what those side effects might be. Sounds kinda suspicious.

Be smart. Be safe. Find out what the side effects of vaccination are before you let them shoot a whole bunch of stuff directly into your body. After all, in nature it is basically the poisons that are being injected directly into the body: snake bites; bee stings; manta-sting rays; thorns from bushes. There isn't much that goes into your body by nature, which bypasses the digestive system, that does you any good. And modern medicine thinks that it is smart enough to inject all kinds of crap into your blood, and have the outcome be a good one?

It's starting to sound not suspicious, but rather like war against the lives of the people.



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Subverting Vaccine Propaganda in Canada - http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/272404-2019-11-26-subverting-vaccine-propaganda-in-canada.htm.

Mother Explains Why Her Daughter's Death From Vaccines Isn't Reported In The Statistics - http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/272395-2019-11-26-mother-explains-why-her-daughters-death-from-vaccines-isnt-reported.htm.

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[Bightening]

That'd be a choice that would be made for individual vaccines based on the history of side effects on your children.

Choices made most times by parents/Guardians who do little or no good research. It’s would have been a long solved issue (Vaccination being good or bad/when/who should be vaccinated) if these parents decide to do their job. Unfortunately, it’s a Choice that would affect someone else’s life and not the parent’s. It would be easy if kids were able to make some decisions themselves, and face the consequences that results.

[BADecker]

That'd be a choice that would be made for individual vaccines based on the history of side effects on your children.

Choices made most times by parents/Guardians who do little or no good research. It’s would have been a long solved issue (Vaccination being good or bad/when/who should be vaccinated) if these parents decide to do their job. Unfortunately, it’s a Choice that would affect someone else’s life and not the parent’s. It would be easy if kids were able to make some decisions themselves, and face the consequences that results.

At least if the kids made the choices, we'd find out the ones who were masochists, and the ones who were cowards.

[tvbcof]

They believe in come kind of conspiracy theory I think, as if vaccines were created to exterminate people. Or some just don't believe they really work. Or they are too lazy. With this kind of approach, if the plague appears again, I won't be surprised

The trick is not to 'exterminate' people.  As you say, that is easy.  TPTB usually use wars for that (see Syria, Yemen, etc, etc.)

The trick is to milk people as much as possible before they die.  Making them sick with incurable, painful, and expensive ailments, combine with jacking up the cost of medicine and health care, is just the ticket.

Autoimmune problems and 'affordable health care' fit the bill perfectly.  With socialized medicine you can milk the cows by proxy.  That is to say, plumb all the cows together so that you can keep milking a cow (who has mysteriously developed, say, MS) even after they have become indigent.

[squatz1]

That'd be a choice that would be made for individual vaccines based on the history of side effects on your children.

Choices made most times by parents/Guardians who do little or no good research. It’s would have been a long solved issue (Vaccination being good or bad/when/who should be vaccinated) if these parents decide to do their job. Unfortunately, it’s a Choice that would affect someone else’s life and not the parent’s. It would be easy if kids were able to make some decisions themselves, and face the consequences that results.

I'm really talking about the ones that do real research and talk to their doctors regarding this. As I do think that for some people, the side effects may truly outweigh the benefits to the person itself.

I do understand the argument regarding the fact that all people should be vaccinated and that it helps everyone if this is the case. But I do think that if there are legitimate side effects that people are having, that can be proved, there is something that should be done.