What is in mind of those, who against vaccination?

[BADecker]

That'd be a choice that would be made for individual vaccines based on the history of side effects on your children.

Choices made most times by parents/Guardians who do little or no good research. It’s would have been a long solved issue (Vaccination being good or bad/when/who should be vaccinated) if these parents decide to do their job. Unfortunately, it’s a Choice that would affect someone else’s life and not the parent’s. It would be easy if kids were able to make some decisions themselves, and face the consequences that results.

I'm really talking about the ones that do real research and talk to their doctors regarding this. As I do think that for some people, the side effects may truly outweigh the benefits to the person itself.

I do understand the argument regarding the fact that all people should be vaccinated and that it helps everyone if this is the case. But I do think that if there are legitimate side effects that people are having, that can be proved, there is something that should be done.

However, what's the biggest side effect? Loss of freedom, through subverted information. The doctor doesn't have time to find out the truth.

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[BADecker]

I need to tell you how very important vaccines really are. I was at the mall, a good-sized mall. On my way in, there was a young mother taking care of her two little children... say, around 3 and 4 years old (guessing). It seems that the younger one was being stubborn, and Mom didn't know what else to do to quiet the child. So, she threatened the little girl with being taken to the doctor for another vaccine shot. So you see? Vaccines ARE important after all.

Break it all down and find what it is all about... below.


VACCINES: Beyond VAXX & ANTI-VAXX. Beyond "Left" & "Right"

There are forces which divide people along the lines of "Left" and "Right", "Vaxx" and "Anti-Vax." Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai takes a deep look at who is benefiting from this and how this process works. Dr. Shiva attempts to find a Real Solution to the Real Problem through this discourse on Vaccines and, in the process, he also discusses and shares with you a precision & personalized medicine framework for advancing discourse & conversation.

VACCINES: Beyond VAXX & ANTI-VAXX. Beyond "Left" & "Right"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH_Kv8tmaeA

[GideonGono]

In my country there has no issue about vaccination because it takes a lot of research before they use. There are a lot of people will be died in case they didn't tested it so there's no problem because they sure their vaccines before they inject or give to people. I also intake vacine when I was a child and until now I don't feel anything.

[Sadlife]

In my country there was also a measles break out because of the parents that doesn't trust immunization due the previous government scandal regarding DOH vaccines that was more dangerous instead of a cure to deadly disease.
That's why, most parents didn't trust vaccination in my country, they have a pretty good reason unlike other countries who doesn't like it for no reason.

[BADecker]

So we see that even the people who like vaccine jabs are starting to realize the dangers of the lack of safety studies for most vaccines.

[indijim]

They are distrusting of the government, pretty much. And usually they were convinced by some stats, that were probably made up about the government trying to poison people through vaccination.

[tvbcof]

They are distrusting of the government, pretty much. And usually they were convinced by some stats, that were probably made up about the government trying to poison people through vaccination.

Pretty much without exception I find the 'stats' which have been flagrantly fabricated come from one (of the many) entities who are focused on getting as many people as possible injected with as much as possible.

It's actually pretty interesting to see how the techniques of deception vary between the pro-vax entities.  Some of them will give themselves a legal out when they lie, and some will just shamelessly make stuff up.

Generally speaking, government agencies in pharma companies will have something like 'we know of no studies have proven harmful effects', but they don't mention that any of the studies which have have been rejected on the basis that vaccines have no harmful effects and thus any study which shows them is automatically rejected as a valid study.  They also don't mention that any studies which can show a negative effect are not funded by any entity but altruistic private ones, and any scientist who participates in such a study can kiss their career goodbye and will have to look for a new line of work.

Mainstream media, on the other hand is totally happy to make utterly absurd claims such as that the measles mortality rate at 50%, or claim that '67 children died from measles in one hospital' when the official number for nation-wide mortality from the DOH isn't even that high.

[TECSHARE]

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/biologics-research-projects/investigating-viruses-cells-used-make-vaccines-and-evaluating-potential-threat-posed-transmission

[Negotiation]

Socio-cultural factors play a huge role in my country as individuals will rather die with their Socio-cultural ideologies against vaccination than vaccine their children.  In a certain village in my country  they believe that the whites brought vaccines to reduce their population. Education is the solution to this societal menace.

Yes you are right that this is a social problem and education is the solution to this social problem. Most people in our country believe in being illiterate. I do not support this vaccine. I once saw a young child suffering from the vaccine. That's why most parents now don't trust the vaccine.

[TECSHARE]

"The Pertussis resurgence: putting together the pieces of the puzzle."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28883970

[tvbcof]

"The Pertussis resurgence: putting together the pieces of the puzzle."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28883970

The 'puzzle' isn't that hard.  The vaccine doesn't work very well for very long.

People who take the vaccine end up harboring the wild strain bacteria without getting sick, but they do spread it around to others.

If these highly vaccinated walking disease factories among us were JUST making non-vaccinated people sick that would be fine with most pro-vaxxers.  In fact, they've been so indoctrinated that they have turned into such sadistic creeps who would probably take pleasure at the thought of spreading diseases to non-vaccinated people.

The trouble is that since the vaccine doesn't work (a fact which somehow slipped by the 'scientists' when they did the initial 'trials') even vaccinated people are getting infected.

[BADecker]

"The Pertussis resurgence: putting together the pieces of the puzzle."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28883970

The 'puzzle' isn't that hard.  The vaccine doesn't work very well for very long.

People who take the vaccine end up harboring the wild strain bacteria without getting sick, but they do spread it around to others.

If these highly vaccinated walking disease factories among us were JUST making non-vaccinated people sick that would be fine with most pro-vaxxers.  In fact, they've been so indoctrinated that they have turned into such sadistic creeps who would probably take pleasure at the thought of spreading diseases to non-vaccinated people.

The trouble is that since the vaccine doesn't work (a fact which somehow slipped by the 'scientists' when they did the initial 'trials') even vaccinated people are getting infected.

Yep. It just slipped by the scientists and doctors. Guess they just don't know enough to be sure they are doing good. Maybe they are upsetting the whole apple cart of nature's better protection.


Whooping Cough Outbreak Despite A 100 Percent Vaccination Rate Forces School Closure In Texas

The school, St. Theresa Catholic School in Memorial Park, will be closed until January 6th. The outbreak has not only affected the students but also the staff. Some children have also been hospitalized as a result, the Houston Chronicle reports.

It's one of multiple instances that point to the idea that whooping cough, also known as pertussis, is not indicative of a failure to vaccinate, but rather, a failing vaccine. According to Fox, "Officials with the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston said that 100 percent of students who attend St. Theresa Catholic School are vaccinated against the illness."

According to ABC News,

According to a statement from the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston, the school notified the community of the first confirmed case on Dec. 4. The case was then reported immediately to the Texas Department of State Health Services to investigate. he archdiocese also said all of St. Theresa's students are vaccinated, and it's working closely with the Houston Health Department.

[tvbcof]

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Yep. It just slipped by the scientists and doctors. Guess they just don't know enough to be sure they are doing good. Maybe they are upsetting the whole apple cart of nature's better protection.


Whooping Cough Outbreak Despite A 100 Percent Vaccination Rate Forces School Closure In Texas

The school, St. Theresa Catholic School in Memorial Park, will be closed until January 6th. The outbreak has not only affected the students but also the staff. Some children have also been hospitalized as a result, the Houston Chronicle reports.

It's one of multiple instances that point to the idea that whooping cough, also known as pertussis, is not indicative of a failure to vaccinate, but rather, a failing vaccine. According to Fox, "Officials with the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston said that 100 percent of students who attend St. Theresa Catholic School are vaccinated against the illness."

According to ABC News,

According to a statement from the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston, the school notified the community of the first confirmed case on Dec. 4. The case was then reported immediately to the Texas Department of State Health Services to investigate. he archdiocese also said all of St. Theresa's students are vaccinated, and it's working closely with the Houston Health Department.

I can just imagine how that conversation went.  Probably something like:  HHD: "Shut the fuck up about the 100% vaccination rate and help us blame the anti-vaxxers or we'll have the DA bring charges against some of the pedophiles in your archdiocese."

[Good tbc]

Vaccination is administer to both Children and Adults   depending on the type of vacines at certain age and times it seems right for it to be administered  .And the purpose which in most cases is to eradicate  poliomyelitis, hepatitis..etc Cases of which have had adverse effect on the citizens.This program is usually sponsored by government parastatals in conjunction with the Health department. The lack of adequate  health information  and the knowledge of the consequences of not been vaccinated at the right time can lead to Consequential Result in the life of the individual .

[audaciousbeing]

For me, I think vaccination should be a decision for oneself. An adult should make a decision while child should be vaccinated by default up until when he can make a decision as to whether he wants to continue or not. For someone who have lived or know someone who has been plagued by polio would know that vaccination is a serious issue that children or parents be given the option to opt out from that kind of treatment because its simply a way to excuse the life of unending pain.

[gabmen]

For me, I think vaccination should be a decision for oneself. An adult should make a decision while child should be vaccinated by default up until when he can make a decision as to whether he wants to continue or not. For someone who have lived or know someone who has been plagued by polio would know that vaccination is a serious issue that children or parents be given the option to opt out from that kind of treatment because its simply a way to excuse the life of unending pain.

Im not sure why people would opt not to be vaccinated as they're already proven to work. And parents chooaing fo not get their children vaccinated is beyond me. I mean, if you're thinking about the welfare of your kids, then you should know that you're putting then at bigger risks if you don't give them shots. Most common diseases that killed a lot of people before can be negated by simple vaccines.

[TECSHARE]

For me, I think vaccination should be a decision for oneself. An adult should make a decision while child should be vaccinated by default up until when he can make a decision as to whether he wants to continue or not. For someone who have lived or know someone who has been plagued by polio would know that vaccination is a serious issue that children or parents be given the option to opt out from that kind of treatment because its simply a way to excuse the life of unending pain.

Im not sure why people would opt not to be vaccinated as they're already proven to work. And parents chooaing fo not get their children vaccinated is beyond me. I mean, if you're thinking about the welfare of your kids, then you should know that you're putting then at bigger risks if you don't give them shots. Most common diseases that killed a lot of people before can be negated by simple vaccines.

You are asking the wrong question. If I told there was a chance your hamburger was poisoned and you refused to eat hamburger, would you consider it a valid retort to claim you refuse to eat and that food is proven to nourish you, or would you just skip the hamburger and eat carrots? People love simplifying this debate into pro and con. The real debate is over the fact that working vaccines are not exclusive of poisonous additives, and no one should be compelled to use them. Framing the whole debate as if people are only denying vaccination is a thing completely is just horse shit.

[tvbcof]

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You are asking the wrong question. If I told there was a chance your hamburger was poisoned and you refused to eat hamburger, would you consider it a valid retort to claim you refuse to eat and that food is proven to nourish you, or would you just skip the hamburger and eat carrots? People love simplifying this debate into pro and con. The real debate is over the fact that working vaccines are not exclusive of poisonous additives, and no one should be compelled to use them. Framing the whole debate as if people are only denying vaccination is a thing completely is just horse shit.

These 'class' of posters tend to have 'get paid to post' ads associated with their accounts, and they all just parrot a standard set of corp/gov talking points.  I have to wonder if you are not talking to an AI bot thing which has evolved some since we started seeing them some years ago.  You notice that they don't try to make any comment or argument which takes into account any previous thread commentary so it would be hard to call it AI.  Just the A part more or less and certainly not technologically cutting edge.  The prose tends to be just the same old boilerplate that all 'normies' adhere to already.  If it is bot it is getting better with grammar at least.

[johnwest]

In my honest opinion, I would suggest parents to vaccine their children.

There are some vaccines which do have side effects which cant be predicted earlier but the usefulness is higher than what people think.

[Anonaneadone]

The history of mankind should learn people smth. But, it is not. Many diseases dissapeared just because of vaccines. But some people forgot about that. They think that it has nothing to do with them. The fear of vaccination is stronger than the fear of death. I'm afraid that many deadly diseases can return someday.

There are so many cases of patients with measles in my country, but it still not encourage most people to vaccinate their children. They think it's a light child disease. And never speak about complications, that they children may have after measles.

How is the situation with vaccination in your country? Why do you think many people against vaccination?

In my country, a lot of people is afraid of vaccination because there is a lot of issues that some of the terrorist make a fake vaccine to kill people. I do not know the reasons why. Or because they are terrorist so some of my other fellow country mens are afraid that instead they are safe. They will be dead because they intake a fake vaccine from terrorist