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June 12, 2019, 01:33:22 PM
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Perhaps you could integrate a system, or a specific page, for DT members @theymos where they can review random flags that needs DT attention. Perhaps similar to how it is for mods when it comes to reported posts?

Just an idea, like how you can do overwatch stuff in csgo to try and catch out cheaters. Rather than having to search for threads where flags are being discussed (although one doesn't exclude the other), it would be nice to go somewhere specific and be presented with a case, a dashboard of sorts.

Seems like it would be suitable for current DT system.


EDIT; Forgot the word "dashboard", and spelling.

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June 12, 2019, 01:34:21 PM
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The trust system still works and only people in your trust network (DT by default) will count as supporters or opponents.

OK. Got it. But support button is active for me and I'm not DT member.
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June 12, 2019, 01:35:56 PM
Last edit: June 12, 2019, 01:46:52 PM by o_e_l_e_o
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DT members are not mentioned in Theymos post. It is written "A newbie-warning flag is active if there are more people supporting such a flag than opposing it."

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Only users in your trust network count as supporting or opposing flags. For guests, the default trust network is used.

OK. Got it. But support button is active for me and I'm not DT member.
You are free to support or oppose flags. You support or opposition will only be relevant to yourself and any users who have included you in their own personal trust list.



I think in amongst all this talk about flags, everyone seems to be forgetting that red trust still exists. If theymos only wants scammer flags to be used by people who have been personally scammed, then so be it. Red trust was sufficient for everyone up until a few hours ago - the only thing which has changed with leaving red trust is the removal of red "Trade with extreme caution" text.* I don't think we necessarily need to be leaving a flag for everyone, and users should, as always, be encouraged to read the trust ratings before entering in to any sort of deal, contract, or agreement.



*Edit: I forgot about the warning above the threads - these are also no longer linked to red trust.

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June 12, 2019, 01:37:55 PM
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 #144

Red trust was sufficient for everyone up until a few hours ago - the only thing which has changed with leaving red trust is the removal of red "Trade with extreme caution" text.
Wrong. The warning above threads started by such users is also gone. Those two things combined make them worthless.

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June 12, 2019, 01:39:43 PM
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Chages are always welcome and to be fair trust section was something that really needed it but to my mind you had to leave concept of a trust score because it showed how new/old your trust was (well, you can check it manually but...)
Scammer flag is a great addition because there were some red trust which were personal and it had nothing to do with trading certain user.

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June 12, 2019, 01:40:57 PM
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The warning above threads started by such users is also gone. Those two things combined make them worthless.

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June 12, 2019, 01:46:33 PM
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Red trust was sufficient for everyone up until a few hours ago - the only thing which has changed with leaving red trust is the removal of red "Trade with extreme caution" text.
Wrong. The warning above threads started by such users is also gone. Those two things combined make them worthless.

No, only you are worthless, actually of negative worth.

You are responsible for breaking the old system so quite crying, your abuse fucked it up.

That warning was presented above many honest members initial posts due to your attempts to conceal you had previously lied and scammed. It was therefore already misleading and of low to negative over all value.

You broke it. Theymos is fixing it with the new transparent and fair system. People will soon flag down all the REAL SCAMMERS. Hopefully you will be included.

You seem to be of the opinion that because you gave out a lot of red tags that people assumed you were net positive. The smarter ones could see that you have done far more damage here than you have good.

Just fuck off and let the board fix your mess.
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June 12, 2019, 01:49:54 PM
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Now this thread will be used by potential scammers who were tagged by Kitty, to attack Lauda and celebrate.
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June 12, 2019, 01:51:10 PM
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Red trust was sufficient for everyone up until a few hours ago - the only thing which has changed with leaving red trust is the removal of red "Trade with extreme caution" text.
Wrong. The warning above threads started by such users is also gone. Those two things combined make them worthless.

No, only you are worthless, actually of negative worth.

You are responsible for breaking the old system so quite crying, your abuse fucked it up.

That warning was presented above many honest members initial posts due to your attempts to conceal you had previously lied and scammed. It was therefore already misleading and of low to negative over all value.

You broke it. Theymos is fixing it with the new transparent and fair system. People will soon flag down all the REAL SCAMMERS. Hopefully you will be included.

You seem to be of the opinion that because you gave out a lot of red tags that people assumed you were net positive. The smarter ones could see that you have done far more damage here than you have good.

Just fuck off and let the board fix your mess.

Since Theymos "fixed" the "broken" system, maybe you can start posting from your main account now?
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June 12, 2019, 01:53:38 PM
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Since Theymos "fixed" the "broken" system, maybe you can start posting from your main account now?

He was banned for 60 days, if I remember correctly so he is still not able to post from the CH account.
... I guess I have to leave the Meta for a few days until everything settles down... maybe....





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June 12, 2019, 01:55:12 PM
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Nice to see some beloved DT members who are supporting our Kitty try to get control back to DT members .....

I have to agree current change from theymos is a disaster for the current abusive DT members as they totally lost power which finally makes a fair rating possible.
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June 12, 2019, 01:58:12 PM
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Now this thread will be used by potential scammers who were tagged by Kitty, to attack Lauda and celebrate.

^^ probably laudas alt ^^^

who has ever heard of this nothing poster before. Just randomly shows up munching ass.

LFC is that you?

Hey moronpigsnoz do you not understand that the flag system is not pushing for a fair and transparent system? where only REAL scammers can be flagged?

You don't want a transparent and fair system? you want to keep retain a system where PROVEN and VERIFIABLE liars and scammers like lauda you kitty kat master can still brand those that whistle blow on him as scammers?

Yep plenty of bottles of cristal are going to pop tonight I'm sure. Even more when your favorite kitty cat gets black listed. Meow.

If this new system is left as is and theymos enforces this flagging system. It is a huge step in the right direction for free speech here.

You want to brand someone a scammer THEN COME WITH THE EVIDENCE or fuck off.  Should have been like this from the start.

Trust abuse is over. Feedback is fine put what you like. People should investigate if the feedback is true though. If we had our way if you put lies in that feedback form you should be blacklisted though. However since at this point it does not generate a warning then this is not so much of an issue. If the reader is not bothering to research the feedback for himself then that is their issue. If the readers wants to believe someone is a defamer when that person presented irrefutable observable instances to substantiate their concerns that is the readers own issue. 

The only people moaning about a TRANSPARENT AND FAIR SET OF RULES THAT MUST BE APPLIED EQUALLY TO ALL MEMBERS  are of course those that were gaming the sytem for their own ends.
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June 12, 2019, 02:00:36 PM
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Can we please have this thread to discuss the flags and not personal squabbles? Plenty of other threads for that. TYVM.

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June 12, 2019, 02:01:04 PM
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<...> Theymos is fixing it with the new transparent and fair system. <...>

Then trust rating should be visible in all sections, including for guests.


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June 12, 2019, 02:03:08 PM
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You are running very interesting social experiment here  Grin

So basically, color has been changed from red to orange and DT feedback is still visible. And some users are happy that their visible red "-ve" feedback remained visible to whoever click on their trust page, and, number under profile is still the same. And, order of numbers has been changed. For example:

Nice to see finally a positive change which is more transparent fair and most important limits the possibilities of abuse from Lauda and a few other people by saying that only victims are allowed to create flags which makes it now impossible for them to instantly create 4-8 negative trust feedbacks based on nothing


Good work Theymos

I just don't get it.


And these flags are for people who are not logged in, everyone else can click on each users profile and read why someone has..."-ge"...

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June 12, 2019, 02:04:54 PM
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Now this thread will be used by potential scammers who were tagged by Kitty, to attack Lauda and celebrate.

^^ probably laudas alt ^^^

who has ever heard of this nothing poster before. Just randomly shows up munching ass.

LFC is that you?

Hey moronpigsnoz do you not understand that the flag system is not pushing for a fair and transparent system? where only REAL scammers can be flagged?

You don't want a transparent and fair system? you want to keep retain a system where PROVEN and VERIFIABLE liars and scammers like lauda you kitty kat master can still brand those that whistle blow on him as scammers?

Yep plenty of bottles of cristal are going to pop tonight I'm sure. Even more when your favorite kitty cat gets black listed. Meow.

Scammers like you always seeing things. For you, everyone is Laudas alt. Do not forget that we still have a "Scam Accusation" thread. So all I can advise you, is to go and fuck yourself with the bottle of "crystal" during your celebration.
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June 12, 2019, 02:06:07 PM
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You are running very interesting social experiment here  Grin

So basically, color has changed from red to orange and DT feedback is still visible. And some users are happy that their visible red "-ve" feedback remained visible to whoever clicks on their trust page, and, it shows the same number when they post, but different color and number order has been changed. For example:

Nice to see finally a positive change which is more transparent fair and most important limits the possibilities of abuse from Lauda and a few other people by saying that only victims are allowed to create flags which makes it now impossible for them to instantly create 4-8 negative trust feedbacks based on nothing


Good work Theymos

I just don't get it.


And these flags are for people who are not logged in, everyone else can click on each users profile and read why someone has..."-ge"...


Exectly everyone needs to read and see's instantly Laudas and the other BS explanation/claim
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You are running very interesting social experiment here  Grin

So basically, color has changed from red to orange and DT feedback is still visible. And some users are happy that their visible red "-ve" feedback remained visible to whoever clicks on their trust page, and, it shows the same number when they post, but different color and number order has been changed. For example:

Nice to see finally a positive change which is more transparent fair and most important limits the possibilities of abuse from Lauda and a few other people by saying that only victims are allowed to create flags which makes it now impossible for them to instantly create 4-8 negative trust feedbacks based on nothing


Good work Theymos

I just don't get it.


And these flags are for people who are not logged in, everyone else can click on each users profile and read why someone has..."-ge"...


Exectly everyone needs to read and see's instantly Laudas and the other BS explanation/claim
So what has changed? Color?

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June 12, 2019, 02:12:37 PM
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Now this thread will be used by potential scammers who were tagged by Kitty, to attack Lauda and celebrate.

^^ probably laudas alt ^^^

who has ever heard of this nothing poster before. Just randomly shows up munching ass.

LFC is that you?

Hey moronpigsnoz do you not understand that the flag system is not pushing for a fair and transparent system? where only REAL scammers can be flagged?

You don't want a transparent and fair system? you want to keep retain a system where PROVEN and VERIFIABLE liars and scammers like lauda you kitty kat master can still brand those that whistle blow on him as scammers?

Yep plenty of bottles of cristal are going to pop tonight I'm sure. Even more when your favorite kitty cat gets black listed. Meow.

Scammers like you always seeing things. For you, everyone is Laudas alt. Do not forget that we still have a "Scam Accusation" thread. So all I can advise you, is to go and fuck yourself with the bottle of "crystal" during your celebration.

Off topic - however produce the EVIDENCE Of scamming or we label you are LIAR in our new trolling trolls and liars thread.

People like you do crystal , people like us enjoy bottles of cristal Smiley  

You are obviously low functioning. We just presented observable instances of lauda lying and scamming. You make yourself look foolish by screaming scamming when there is none on our part euro trash.

The new flag system if enforced is pushing for a fair and transparent system. We realize you do not like that , sorry Sad



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June 12, 2019, 02:15:29 PM
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[ad hominem]
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You sure are a pleasant one to engage with.
I wonder whose alts you will be. Roll Eyes

<...> Theymos is fixing it with the new transparent and fair system. <...>
Then trust rating should be visible in all sections, including for guests.
Good luck.

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