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June 14, 2019, 01:09:44 AM
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Yeah is true. The usa judge order this fraud hoaxer to appear to the court at 18 of June.
The case is about the claim of kleiman family that Wright had stole his 1 mil bitcoin.
 






imo this case is clear. Wright is just a hoaxer and have stole at 2014 way after kleiman death maybe some thousand bitcoins from his hard disk. Kleiman for sure was an early adopter, a tech geek like any other at that early days that mine bitcoin.
For sure he is not Satoshi but only an early adopter.
There is not 1 million bitcoin but maybe 10-20-30 thousand that Wright have steal from the kleiman parents months after kleiman death.
this is the story.

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June 14, 2019, 01:23:13 AM
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Will he actually go to jail for this? I don't know the US law, but he'll probably just pay a few grands in fines for wasting court's time, which is like nothing to him.
I don't follow his case closely, are there any things that could actually send him to jail? Would stealing Kleinman's qualify for that? But regardless, things won't change much - almost everyone knows he's a fraud, and those who follow him are either trolls, lunatics or morons.

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June 14, 2019, 03:52:06 AM
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Clickbait.

There is nothing that says anything about CSW going to jail. It just says that if a list of addresses can't be provided, then CSW has to testify in person, explaining the reason for the non-compliance.

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June 14, 2019, 03:58:09 AM
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Fake Satoshi, fake case, fake Bitcoins.
https://twitter.com/WhalePanda/status/1124655086158909440
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June 14, 2019, 04:14:05 AM
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Okay, so Craig just browsed numbers of rich man's wallet address and claimed that it was his just to prove that he has tons of bitcoin to aupport his claim that he is satoshi. Huh

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June 14, 2019, 04:52:31 AM
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Faketoshi is cancer for the crypto world and unfortunately this cancer will not be removed so soon, I read this news yesterday and sincerely, this is a case where only the people involved are spending money with lawyers and the end the kleiman family will not win

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June 14, 2019, 05:07:47 AM
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Will he actually go to jail for this? I don't know the US law, but he'll probably just pay a few grands in fines for wasting court's time, which is like nothing to him.

if he keeps obstructing and refusing to comply with court orders---especially if he is ordered to appear in court and continues this behavior---he could be held in contempt of court. this carries real jail time up to 6 months per violation, not small fines.

I don't follow his case closely, are there any things that could actually send him to jail? Would stealing Kleinman's qualify for that?

if he defrauded his family and estate, then there can be criminal charges on top of the civil damages. it depends on the strength of the criminal case. civil cases have a much lower burden of proof. on top of the civil damages, i think the kleinmans may be using the civil case as a pretense for discovery of evidence that could lead to criminal charges against wright.

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June 14, 2019, 06:55:56 AM
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Someone has already come forward to sign one of the addresses that CW gave up as his, so they already have a case against him for misrepresentation and/or being in contempt of court.  Tongue

He has enough money to buy decent legal representation and as we know already, the jails are not full of rich people.  Roll Eyes  If they get a guilty verdict against him, he would end up getting a huge fine or a suspended sentence for being a first offender or some community service.  Roll Eyes

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June 14, 2019, 07:22:04 AM
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Wright is certainly not a very nice dude. In any case, his statements do not cause him respect. This person probably decided that bad fame is also fame and makes everything possible for the crypto-society to hate him. If he really steals money from another person, this once again confirms my suspicions that he is a disgusting person. Many people try to become famous thanks to HYIP, and the fact that other people hate them does not soar them at all. It's horrible

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June 14, 2019, 07:48:11 AM
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Accurate synopsis can be read here:

"A story in 3 acts (or, Mr. Wright's very bad days). We'll cover this in today's Crypto Caselaw Minute but the tldr is that things aren't going well for Wright in federal court in Florida. As we noted previously about this case, federal judges see through smoke screens fast."
- https://twitter.com/stephendpalley/status/1139138903665979392

"This week's Crypto Caselaw Minute from @stephendpalley and me is out, and it's got CSW, the word Ownum about thirteen hundred times, and an alleged equity grant issue."
- https://twitter.com/NelsonMRosario/status/1139227365136109568

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Crypto Caselaw Minute #40–6/13/19
- https://medium.com/crypto-caselaw-minute/crypto-caselaw-minute-40-6-13-19-df5125ca059f

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" Kleiman v. Wright, 9:18-cv-80176-BB, S.D.Fl., Order on Motion to Dismiss, 6/11/2019 [SDP]

Hearing transcript: https://www.scribd.com/document/413268354/Kleiman-v-Wright-Hearing-Transcript

Motion to Compel: https://www.scribd.com/document/413268455/Kleiman-v-Wright-Motion-to-Compel

Response to Motion to Compel: https://www.scribd.com/document/413268741/Kleiman-v-Wright-Response-in-Opp

Mediation Order: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/208/kleiman-v-wright/ "


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Court orders Craig Wright to provide a list of trustees and comply with discovery (via @stephendpalley & @NelsonMRosario)
- https://twitter.com/TheBlock__/status/1139173060219719688
- https://www.theblockcrypto.com/2019/06/13/court-orders-craig-wright-to-provide-a-list-of-trustees-and-comply-with-discovery/

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Basically it does not look that great for Dr. Wright.

Will he even show up in court?

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June 14, 2019, 07:51:33 AM
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This is just a scenario, you think. I'm not sure about this when he was lying or telling the truth. No one knows this fact except Wright, is he really a thief? We wait for the trial to end and the final statements made. With the present value, this is probably the biggest bitcoin-related lawsuit.
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June 14, 2019, 07:59:27 AM
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Another thread related to Craig Wright! Damn. This guy stays relevant thanks to you guys sharing any news related to him(Positive or Negative). He loves this kind of attention.

The best thing to do is to simply ignore him completely. Also, he is pretty damn rich and I doubt he will ever go to jail. He will probably continue claiming that he is Satoshi even if the real Satoshi reveals himself/herself.

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June 14, 2019, 08:03:38 AM
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imo this case is clear. Wright is just a hoaxer and have stole at 2014 way after kleiman death maybe some thousand bitcoins from his hard disk. Kleiman for sure was an early adopter, a tech geek like any other at that early days that mine bitcoin.
For sure he is not Satoshi but only an early adopter.
There is not 1 million bitcoin but maybe 10-20-30 thousand that Wright have steal from the kleiman parents months after kleiman death.
this is the story.


These charges are serious. Of course no one has a document in this direction, I think. Completely hypothetical discourses.

I think Craig Wright is opportunistic and unreliable in my opinion, but I'm not sure how right to make such accusations.

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Another thread related to Craig Wright! Damn. This guy stays relevant thanks to you guys sharing any news related to him(Positive or Negative). He loves this kind of attention.

The best thing to do is to simply ignore him completely. Also, he is pretty damn rich and I doubt he will ever go to jail. He will probably continue claiming that he is Satoshi even if the real Satoshi reveals himself/herself.

Nope. At this juncture its imperative for any Bitcoin enthusiast to follow every second of this case.

Popcorn time.

EDIT (additional):

More Background reading (nice synopsis / articles) ...

Craig Wright ordered to reveal bitcoin addresses, but don’t hold your breath - May 8, 2019
- https://decrypt.co/6931/craig-wright-kleiman-lawsuit-bitcoin-tulip-trust

Latest twist in the Kleiman case could upend Craig Wright’s libel lawsuits - June 13, 2019  <<<<<
- https://decrypt.co/7436/kleiman-case-could-upend-craig-wright-libel-lawsuits
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June 14, 2019, 08:30:19 AM
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Okay, so Craig just browsed numbers of rich man's wallet address and claimed that it was his just to prove that he has tons of bitcoin to aupport his claim that he is satoshi. Huh


That seems to be all of it though, and because of that move he was able to cement his status as Satoshi to the unknowing members of the community. Luckily though for the most of us here, we know that his claims are somewhat off and are out of this world knowing full well that Satoshi would never reveal himself to the public.

Accurate synopsis can be read here:

-snip-

Basically it does not look that great for Dr. Wright.

Will he even show up in court?

I'm afraid he'll have a no show to the court and will certainly find an excuse to do so. Knowing how this dude conned a lot of people for his stint as Satoshi for the past few years, I doubt he still has an ounce of credibility left within his soul by now.

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June 14, 2019, 08:52:59 AM
Last edit: June 14, 2019, 09:17:01 AM by BitcoinFX
 #16

Okay, so Craig just browsed numbers of rich man's wallet address and claimed that it was his just to prove that he has tons of bitcoin to aupport his claim that he is satoshi. Huh


That seems to be all of it though, and because of that move he was able to cement his status as Satoshi to the unknowing members of the community. Luckily though for the most of us here, we know that his claims are somewhat off and are out of this world knowing full well that Satoshi would never reveal himself to the public.

Accurate synopsis can be read here:

-snip-

Basically it does not look that great for Dr. Wright.

Will he even show up in court?

I'm afraid he'll have a no show to the court and will certainly find an excuse to do so. Knowing how this dude conned a lot of people for his stint as Satoshi for the past few years, I doubt he still has an ounce of credibility left within his soul by now.

Note that in the recent copyright application (which anyone can file for around $35), the application showed that Craig Wright claims to be a citizen from Antigua and Barbuda and not from Australia. Likely he renounced his Australian citizenship.

Mr Calvin Ayre (of CoinGeek) also resides in Antigua.

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Imagine Craig in court ... just watch the audience reactions here  ... what a pleasant fellow ...

Dr Craig Wright & Jimmy Nguyen | Bitcoin and Blockchain | Oxford Union
- https://youtu.be/OqpwuJw7cxY?t=2606

Code is law.

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Dr. Craig Wright - Rekt - Admits he is not Satoshi Nakamoto
- https://youtu.be/KoM1jl4Hldk

Craig Wright Asked About Why The Fake Satoshi Proof
- https://youtu.be/3w39E_0Kh9M *NSFW*

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148607.msg51451569#msg51451569

Op Ed: How Many Wrongs Make a Wright? ...
- https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/op-ed-how-many-wrongs-make-wright/

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June 14, 2019, 09:11:19 AM
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If it's true, then I could say that he deserves it. He has done too much drama in crypto world so I believe that he should pay for all the pretentions and all the damage that he has done in ruining the creator of Bitcoin's name. It's time for him to learn his lessons.
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June 17, 2019, 09:50:30 AM
Last edit: June 17, 2019, 10:05:40 AM by BitcoinFX
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"Woah! The judge went above and beyond in making this order for Craig to appear before the judge. Notable is that the court signalling repeatedly that it is aware of the ins and out of encryption and isn't going to tolerate Craig's bullshit technobabble."
- https://twitter.com/vinarmani/status/1139756279289638912

See:
- https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/217/kleiman-v-wright/

"The court opens the order with: "Encryption has existed as far back as the time of Julius Caeser. The fundamental idea is simple: use a technique to hide something now, with a secret way to reveal it later. For text, the technique often involves a cipher..." ..."
- https://twitter.com/vinarmani/status/1139757057249173506

"Then later "Under Shamir’s system, each “key” is an ordered pair of numbers. The person encrypting the data can create multiple keys, all of which are needed to “unlock” the encrypted data. Think of a safe deposit box with many keyholes, not just two." Craig better come correct"
- https://twitter.com/vinarmani/status/1139757058394247168

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@CalvinAyre Jun 14
"ya....#CraigisSatoshi is not the best witness...but this case is entirely predicated on him being Satoshi and the property is the Satoshi Coins....to lose he has to be Satoshi."
- https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1139500401949065218

"Wait, what? You just said the exact opposite only 2 weeks ago, that a court will declare him to be Satoshi. Sold all my BSV now before he goes to jail and everyone dumps."
- https://twitter.com/crypto_koba/status/1139938565222293504

"I have had my lawyers dig through Craig's case. It is air tight so this is nothing more than a great opportunity to get a UK judge to pronounce Craig Satoshi:"
- https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1134894557315915776

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"Craig Wright the lying fraud’s latest Medium post - pot calling the kettle black. Also, the quality of a relationship is not relevant to intestacy. Welcome to law you lying moron."
- https://twitter.com/PeterMcCormack/status/1140322984672059399
See:
- https://medium.com/@craig_10243/on-scammers-f5fca5801bb2

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June 17, 2019, 04:28:18 PM
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I doubt he'll end up in prison, he'll probably just get fined and then have to sell/transfer the bitcoin he stole. No doubt this scumbag can afford it too.
Hopefully this will be one of the first court cases of many to eventually bankrupt this fraudster, but we can only hope.

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June 17, 2019, 04:34:56 PM
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Not just liar, Craig Wright seems also to be a criminal. He had confiscated others bitcoin and has not returned them to the valid owner.
The court has asked him to produce proof of ownership. If he's proven to be guilty of theft, he might even go to a prison.
But as it's just an accusation, we should not decide before the judges do.
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