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June 18, 2019, 10:55:04 AM
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I can't make an easy judgement as this would certainly depends on timing and market situation.
Traders always follow the market, they buy and sell based on timing to make profit, while holders are just waiting for the right time for them to sell their assets based on their target, so, if a trader is really successful(meaning he can make lots of successful trades), then I guess he will be more profitable, and that is the condition, and not all traders are successful.
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June 18, 2019, 11:54:31 AM
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I guess that depends on every individual. How much and when is invested, how long coins are holded or what trading strategy is used.
My general idea is that is always better for Bitcoin to be on the market and not just sit idle in some wallet. So I guess that best option for profit is combination of trading and holding in ideal ratio but everyone needs to find the best strategy that suits his needs.

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June 18, 2019, 12:01:53 PM
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you righ but when i said how about risk.
trading is make daily or weekly income but have a big risk, if your analisys market is bad you just will take a loss in trade.
holding is just make a little profit but have a small risk on it.
i am a holder and trader, so i do that's all.

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June 18, 2019, 12:44:55 PM
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first of all there is a difference between "bag holding" and a "long term investment" and "short term trading" these are three different approaches towards the market that should not be  confused with each other and each of them can have a different outcome.

for starters making profit doesn't depend on what you do, it depends on how you do it based on your experience. if you have none, then no matter what you do, you will lose money.

a "bag holder" is someone who usually buys some crap and waits until eternity to make profit. they usually lose 90% of their investment before selling and getting out because they always buy "crap".
a "short term trader" or day trader is someone who rides the fluctuations. this can be very profitable but at the same time it is very risky due to the unpredictability of this market and the high level of manipulation specially in altcoins but if you learn how to for example take advantage of the altcoin pumps, you will be able to  make a ton of money.
an "investor" however is someone who doesn't want to take the risks of trading like losing money to a shitcoin dump. or lose money to an exchange scamming him so he chooses a good asset with a lot of potential for long term and buys that. like those who are buying bitcoin. the key is to find that potential.

in the end you should decide which group you want to be a part of and which one of them YOU can do best to make most profit.

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June 18, 2019, 01:07:43 PM
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I can't make an easy judgement as this would certainly depends on timing and market situation.
Traders always follow the market, they buy and sell based on timing to make profit, while holders are just waiting for the right time for them to sell their assets based on their target, so, if a trader is really successful(meaning he can make lots of successful trades), then I guess he will be more profitable, and that is the condition, and not all traders are successful.
Well, the time and market situation is one of the decisive factors for this problem, in addition, the capacity of each person also determines a lot because traders or holders, if they do not know how to analyze and make good use of the situations they are facing, they will also fail. So it is very difficult for us to correctly answer this question, but if we look objectively, traders will make more money when we can see daily risks that traders face, the volume of risk is too much and the reward for risk acceptance is proportional to the volume of risk

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June 18, 2019, 01:26:16 PM
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Apart form bitcoin, Ethereum and the major altcoins like the top 20. Holding atcoiy for along time could result into heavy losses.  Most traders make more than holders. Most projects have gone down in red below tthe selling price and as such, it's a loss holding those coins.
It's a risk of holding when you buy unpopular coins, they are very volatile and could make you los, especially if you keep it for a long
time. I think trading is far more profitable because you can profit repeatedly even in a short time
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June 18, 2019, 04:10:36 PM
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Depends on the trader, some traders do make more money than holders because they find the perfect spot to sell at the top and buy at the bottom because they are good at trading and they know when it hits the top or bottom. However, some traders do not know the difference between a bottom and a fake bottom or a hype vs a dead cat bounce so they mistake everything together while making big losses.

So, when you hold, depending on how long you can hold you will always make profits, you can even buy at the all time high price and eventually that will be passed as well, that is why I honestly think that bitcoin is the holders coin, if you hold too long and everyone joins you there will be less people selling and there will be a finite amount on exchanges which will also increase the price because we all hold as well.

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June 18, 2019, 07:46:39 PM
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Not all traders can make more money and even holders too because it all depends on the situation of the market and what would they do. Long term trader can make a profit only if his desired profit met or he sees the right opportunity to sell. While the short term traders are quite harder than long term trader if a trader doesn't have any experience of trading and it is not advisable for newbies to do the short term trading and it is riskier than hodling.

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June 18, 2019, 07:49:31 PM
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Traders make money very quickly but we cannot surely say there will be more profitable than cold as but if the value of your investment not developed in your future also then the traders make more profit then the holders otherwise if you hold the investment for long time it is more profitable than expectation.
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June 18, 2019, 08:39:04 PM
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You can trade any coin. For a beginner, of course, it is better to choose coins from the top 20, but if you are a successful trader, then you can trade another coin, if you understand this.

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June 19, 2019, 02:40:56 AM
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yes, that is absolutely true. But when I have someone lost all due to day trading. Because every transaction you create, there will be certain risks and if you are unlucky, you will lose money.
the hold or trade is the decision of each person. it only works best when the owner understands what area they are good at. If they are good at trading, holding will become meaningless.
If they are good at analyzing and analyzing, hold will be a great choice.

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June 19, 2019, 06:17:44 AM
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You can trade any coin. For a beginner, of course, it is better to choose coins from the top 20, but if you are a successful trader, then you can trade another coin, if you understand this.
if we courage to take risk , maybe investing in coins outside top 20 cmc will be great decision.but these coins must have atleast $100k so its easy to liquidate when we need money.investing in sleeping giant will give us really huge profits when investors starting join.

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June 19, 2019, 09:47:01 AM
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Yes in day trading you can make consistent profits and consistent losses as well. That's it. So trading is not better than hodl… it's all about doing what works best for you. I have seen a lot of people who have stopped anything about cryptocurrency and hated it till date because they lost everything they had through day trading. I have seen people who saved money only to end up losing it all in trading. So you just have to go for what works best for you and that's all. If you try to go for trading because you thinking it will make you lots of money, you're just wasting your time and will regret it later. There are people who became millionaires today by just hodl Bitcoin.
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June 19, 2019, 10:12:48 AM
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Im sure traders earns more than holders alone. Holders doesnt depend on anything except waiting for their coins to rise. This is so time consuming and sometimes end up being loss because of too much waiting. The trader on the other hand sees opportunities on every waves he catches and earn through it in short period of time so they earn bigger than holders.

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June 19, 2019, 10:28:33 AM
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Traders make money very quickly but we cannot surely say there will be more profitable than cold as but if the value of your investment not developed in your future also then the traders make more profit then the holders otherwise if you hold the investment for long time it is more profitable than expectation.

It depends also on your investment and if you are willing to hold it for long-term and says it can earn by more than expectation and otherwise they selling half of their tokens once the price goes dump and if markets not good condition.

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June 19, 2019, 10:35:50 AM
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if trader is successful then he will make money and so as if investors or holder are successful he will also make profits what I have seen is many do trading and investing also I would like this to make money and daily profits also investing is easier than trading
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June 19, 2019, 01:04:35 PM
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Of course, the trader earns more than the holder, but you take into account the risks that the trader is experiencing. He can also lose everything. When one trader makes money, another trader loses his money. This is the law of the market not only cryptocurrency.
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June 19, 2019, 01:24:36 PM
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Comparison between two in my own opinion and experienced in trading industry its depend on your knowledge and how much money you will invest or starting capital in trading.
Being a trader is not easy but it will profitable if you learn the strategy and being a holder is depend on the amount of money you invest in an altcoin.
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June 19, 2019, 02:26:36 PM
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Traders cannot always earn a lot of money than holders. depending on how the trader is in managing finances, if the management can be maximal and can process it well, I can conclude if the trader can have a lot of money than the holder.
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June 19, 2019, 02:39:52 PM
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I am more of a trader. I like money to stay in the action and keep circulating.
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