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June 21, 2019, 08:02:11 PM
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The successful traders only make the profits more than holders but most of the people will not getting more profits then the holders because they are also being like that so we cannot compared that but they are getting frequent income very little by little and folders make huge profit after sometimes.

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June 21, 2019, 08:13:20 PM
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It depends on time/market situation I think. sometime Holders can earn huge profit and sometime trader. In bullish market holder can earn huge profit and in bearish market trader can earn profit than holders I think.
  I think this is an open secret that Trading is something that can make you some good money as compared to a stationary holder. For a Hodler, it is the market force and the surge that makes up the value and the surplus money. Traders on the other hand can make daily profits by making use of the volatility of the market. But HODL is a kind of relaxed way of making money if you have no hurries to sell your coins.
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June 21, 2019, 09:36:09 PM
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If holders know to predict the price it can cause a huge profit from them and hold it for long-time. Sometimes it cause a big problem for them if market in bad condition and loss their money with anonymous decission.
Right we can hold when the price is low and we can sell when it will become higher, holding can never give you lose if you deal according to the market movements, in bad conditions simply have to hold and in green you can sell for better result of your investments, with the passage of time price will be higher so now a day it is time to hold.
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June 21, 2019, 10:16:50 PM
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If holders know to predict the price it can cause a huge profit from them and hold it for long-time. Sometimes it cause a big problem for them if market in bad condition and loss their money with anonymous decission.
Right we can hold when the price is low and we can sell when it will become higher, holding can never give you lose if you deal according to the market movements, in bad conditions simply have to hold and in green you can sell for better result of your investments, with the passage of time price will be higher so now a day it is time to hold.

Only the risk of losing is low but in terms of profit, I may say that traders can  make it  more. I know traders will sometimes hold their coins when they saw that the market is really bad but not to the extend that they will hold it for a long time. But most traders has taking advantage of the market when it dumps by buying more coins in preparation for the pumps which it actually be happen  next and that is a good idea.

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June 21, 2019, 11:39:53 PM
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The successful traders only make the profits more than holders but most of the people will not getting more profits then the holders because they are also being like that so we cannot compared that but they are getting frequent income very little by little and folders make huge profit after sometimes.
making small profits with big frequent will be same amount with holder.traders will take all opportunity that occur in market and liquid them in short term.short term traders usually will get more benefits from market volatility.

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June 22, 2019, 02:52:39 AM
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The successful traders only make the profits more than holders but most of the people will not getting more profits then the holders because they are also being like that so we cannot compared that but they are getting frequent income very little by little and folders make huge profit after sometimes.
making small profits with big frequent will be same amount with holder.traders will take all opportunity that occur in market and liquid them in short term.short term traders usually will get more benefits from market volatility.
do it together and we will gain more profits than other traders.holding and day trading will give us various profits.some traders has strategy , they will use profits in day trading to accumulate their coins asset that used for long term investment.

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June 22, 2019, 04:39:39 AM
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 yes, traders often earn more money than holders. Because the crypto market is simply volatile and it is not a playground for passive people.
The crypto market always has waves every day to trade, and often has very good deals that can x5 x7 the amount of investment capital.
such as the IEO of Bittrex (STPT) was x7 after being listed on exchange, Harmony was x8 at exchange Binance.
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June 22, 2019, 04:49:37 AM
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The successful traders only make the profits more than holders but most of the people will not getting more profits then the holders because they are also being like that so we cannot compared that but they are getting frequent income very little by little and folders make huge profit after sometimes.
making small profits with big frequent will be same amount with holder.traders will take all opportunity that occur in market and liquid them in short term.short term traders usually will get more benefits from market volatility.
do it together and we will gain more profits than other traders.holding and day trading will give us various profits.some traders has strategy , they will use profits in day trading to accumulate their coins asset that used for long term investment.

thats right . why done one when you can easily do both ?  its not hard to invest/hodl but its hard to trade though if you can combine both , you can be a money making machine , the only problem of most users is that they can hardly do trade because trading isnt an easy task like i said earlier . it requires good knowledge pertaining to cryptos and many more  , not only that , you also need to prepare a huge amount of capital before you can do trading because exchanges , transaction fees and other fees are verry demanding  .
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June 22, 2019, 05:20:37 AM
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   Why to care about others if you are satisfied whit your life? People should not rush into something just because you can make more profit, it`s called
greediness. You can find many topics here about it, it`s a wealth-killer.
   I`m a holder and I didn`t make any profit until now simply because I didn`t sell anything. My bitcoins worth more than before, it`s true, but I don`t plan
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June 22, 2019, 07:24:27 AM
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It depends on time/market situation I think. sometime Holders can earn huge profit and sometime trader. In bullish market holder can earn huge profit and in bearish market trader can earn profit than holders I think.
it depends not only on market conditions but on trend conditions that can help to make prices move up and down, when like today I see the trend going up and many traders will benefit from cryptocurrency price increases.

Yes, it is impossible for us to say, who is going to benefit from the coins they are holding. Already we are seeing slowly the prices are recovering in terms of USD value but not in terms of prices. So definitely people who are holding potential coins will always help them to make some decent profit in the market.
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June 22, 2019, 07:43:10 AM
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The successful traders only make the profits more than holders but most of the people will not getting more profits then the holders because they are also being like that so we cannot compared that but they are getting frequent income very little by little and folders make huge profit after sometimes.
making small profits with big frequent will be same amount with holder.traders will take all opportunity that occur in market and liquid them in short term.short term traders usually will get more benefits from market volatility.

I think as long as the traders can trade in many times, their profit will bigger than the investor. They can get a profit from many coins, especially if they have good skills in trading. But not all traders can get a bigger profit than the investor because many traders don't have good skills, and they are only waiting for the higher price to sell their coins.

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June 22, 2019, 07:53:17 AM
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It seems like that, traders can indeed make money at any time but because they have to buy again after selling, the net profit earned is only a few percent of the sales they make. So I think traders do make more money than holders, but that doesn't mean holders only make a little money, because we know holders don't only have one or two coins, they have lots of coins to hold so in this case the holder can produce lots of money and it all depends on each individual and you can do both to get better, but that is a choice.

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June 22, 2019, 08:11:30 AM
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If talking about the benefits is relative, maybe in our expectation that a trader is more profitable even though behind it all is quite difficult to determine the OP, it requires good skills in reading this unpredictable market.
I think the principle of each person is different, if they are holders, it means he believes that being a holder is more profitable without having to feel stressed. And if you become a trader, it means that he must be able to process money, analyze, etc. So everything depends on each principle, and it is equally beneficial. Not always as good a market as you predicted above, sometimes traders are confused to choose the location of the OP, because he is not a fortune teller.
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June 22, 2019, 10:04:25 AM
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Traders cannot always earn a lot of money than holders. depending on how the trader is in managing finances, if the management can be maximal and can process it well, I can conclude if the trader can have a lot of money than the holder.
well, indeed trading does not always run smoothly sometimes you are stuck at expensive prices and forces you to wait until the price rises again because if you sell it at a cheap price it will only make you lose, while the cryptocurrency can you hold until the price recovers.
I think equal opportunity is always there for both strategies, it now depends on which of the strategy that both of the traders applies to such trading choice for them to have a maximum profit. I would not say a trader will completely make more, because there will always be challenges for a trader that will limit his ability to trade maximum profit.

 it is not every pump opportunity that a trader is able to catch, and we know that without a trader buying dip, there is no way he can make profit and not every time the chance is always there too for him to buy at dip, we also have to consider the waiting time factor too to make executing decision.

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June 22, 2019, 11:56:17 AM
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I believe that those who trader, they are hardworking and know much about trading. They will earn more profit regularly if the market tries to understand. If you are a trader of the day, it will spend most of your time looking for it but its value especially if you are trading only good coins. Holders will have to wait a long time. Whether there is no guarantee of profit or not

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June 22, 2019, 02:54:54 PM
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It is true that trader can make more money than holder, there can be a regular income from trading but problem is trading is not everyone's cup of team. Trading is not that easy, if anyone knows the right entry and exit point he/she can be millionaire in few months. Taking trade is easy but managing it very hard.All these skills are not required when you are holding something for a long time. Traders make more money but holders are more in numbers than traders as trading needs high experience with art of taking and exiting the trade at the right time.

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June 23, 2019, 08:26:11 AM
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yes, that is absolutely true. But when I have someone lost all due to day trading. Because every transaction you create, there will be certain risks and if you are unlucky, you will lose money.
the hold or trade is the decision of each person. it only works best when the owner understands what area they are good at. If they are good at trading, holding will become meaningless.
If they are good at analyzing and analyzing, hold will be a great choice.
Great point, it all depends on what we are good at, there are some people that will trade from now till everlasting and never make a single profit, while some will trade within few seconds and make lots of cash. We also have some people that holding does not favor, the only great thing about holding is that provided you buy at low price, the value will always increase to give you profit.

Look at people that held their coin some years back, they are already counting millions of dollars that a trader can never make. It still all depends on the time and season, every season has what is best for it, we just need to understand the season and know which strategy to apply.
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June 23, 2019, 08:31:39 AM
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yes, that is absolutely true. But when I have someone lost all due to day trading. Because every transaction you create, there will be certain risks and if you are unlucky, you will lose money.
the hold or trade is the decision of each person. it only works best when the owner understands what area they are good at. If they are good at trading, holding will become meaningless.
If they are good at analyzing and analyzing, hold will be a great choice.
Great point, it all depends on what we are good at, there are some people that will trade from now till everlasting and never make a single profit, while some will trade within few seconds and make lots of cash. We also have some people that holding does not favor, the only great thing about holding is that provided you buy at low price, the value will always increase to give you profit.

Look at people that held their coin some years back, they are already counting millions of dollars that a trader can never make. It still all depends on the time and season, every season has what is best for it, we just need to understand the season and know which strategy to apply.
I think both are good, staying with individuals who do it. everyone has a different style, so they are looking for comfort to get profit. if the amount of profit earned, just how do the perpetrators run the strategy

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June 23, 2019, 10:35:48 AM
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I think it all depends on the market as well. If you are a trader during the bull market buying and selling is a bit risky because you may buy at 7 and sell at 8 and rebuy at 9 which would mean you lost that 8 to 9 period yourself and the holder bought at 7 and sold at 9 so they are in more profit.

However, if it is on a bear market then the trader can make more money because they can buy at 9 and sell at 8 and rebuy at 7 which means they dropped the average however the holder bought at 9 and sold at 7 which lost them money. So, instead of how good a trader is or when the holder bought the coins at, its more about how the market is doing, if it is bull then holder is better in my opinion and if it is a bear market then the trader will be in more advantage thanks to making less loss.

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June 23, 2019, 06:58:10 PM
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The successful traders only make the profits more than holders but most of the people will not getting more profits then the holders because they are also being like that so we cannot compared that but they are getting frequent income very little by little and folders make huge profit after sometimes.
making small profits with big frequent will be same amount with holder.traders will take all opportunity that occur in market and liquid them in short term.short term traders usually will get more benefits from market volatility.

I think as long as the traders can trade in many times, their profit will bigger than the investor. They can get a profit from many coins, especially if they have good skills in trading. But not all traders can get a bigger profit than the investor because many traders don't have good skills, and they are only waiting for the higher price to sell their coins.
This could vary from person to person and might also depend on the initial cost of investment of a trader and a speculator. If the initial cost of investment of a speculator or a trader is low, they might have the benefit of making more money. However if it is high in case of a trader, they might not make as much money as someone who has been holding since long would.
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