Is it safe to buy using Bitcoin

[momo353]

Hello:
I am new to cryptos and I must say that my first experience has been a bad one, I recently visited antminerusa.com and purchased some hardware, that was about 10 days ago, I paid using BTC, now the site is no longer available, its been down for 3 days maybe a bit more, this lead me to think this website is a scam.  Now what should I do to recover my BTC, if the purchase where made using a credit card, I would report it to my bank and they could void or cancel payment, but with BTC what should I do?, if there is nothing that I can do, then it is obvious that using cryptos is a scammers paradise because there is no protection to buyer (that I know), unless there is a way to introduce the complain in the chain in order to reverse payment.
This is the transaction id 30dc4f431ac3db1949b330ab8cd31d1bb019d4831e24cd7cd7f4215fca73073b if anyone could share some light I would appreciete it.

[Pursuer]

if there is nothing that I can do, then it is obvious that using cryptos is a scammers paradise because there is no protection to buyer (that I know),

well the buyers can simply do a quick google search and find reviews of the merchants that they are trying to use. specially when it is a website that is selling mining hardware! when you find negative reviews or in this case nothing at all (since it is apparently brand new) that should raise some red flags for you to not use them.

since this website has the word "antminer" in it, you can contact the real company's website (https://www.bitmain.com/) and ask whether they have any kind of affiliation with antminerusa.com, this site may simply be abusing their brand name to scam people.

the protection that you as a buyer could use is an escrow which at its simplest way can be a 2 of 2 multi signature address between you and the merchant but the best way is to use a third party who has no stakes with either side and do a 2 of 3 multi sig.

unless there is a way to introduce the complain in the chain in order to reverse payment.

sorry, bitcoin transactions are not reversible.

[Dingdongjl]

Scammer paradise? hmmm not really, in crypto world you are the only one can be responsible for your actions you made the decision without doing your own research, it is like trusting random guys to hold your bag of money.

Maybe that is one PROs of the bank, because they transact so slow that sometime takes a week you can still cancel unless they already send the payment to another account.

[OmegaStarScream]

Not to be rude but you started the wrong way. I mean even If the site accepted credit cards, you should still not simply use your CC as your credentials could be stolen, you should always investigate sites legitimacy...

I simply googled the site's name and the results returned were:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2527796.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159286.0

Your funds are sadly lost and there is no way you could recover them.

As an advice for the future, If you find any website that you're not sure of, ask here.

[Paolo14]

I don't think is safe to buy with bitcoin

[Kiefner]

This is a very unpleasant situation. But unfortunately you can not do anything. You had to read the reviews about this site and conduct a thorough study before buying. So you should just draw conclusions from this situation and be more careful next time.

[Jhony_Jhony]

Well if I talk about my experience  it is really safe for me.  There were zero  chances of scam and hacking.. so somewhere it depends on merchants and buyer...

Ohhh thats great you have earn good experience.. very well i really appreciated..

[Jhony_Jhony]

Well  i think everyone has different experience..  so you can't  believe  on one good experience  or bad experience.. so do more research and also  read the reviews in websites..

[YuginKadoya]

You can be very Negative about the unreversible transaction that bitcoin has but you can not make a transaction if you don't trust any merchant out there, Trust is the only key in making a transaction but your own knowledge about the things you can do about it is the really important thing in using this kind of convenient transaction, And in my opinion if you want to be safe with scammers then don't use blockchain transaction because it will require trust in performing any transaction, I guess there are other options and converting Crypto to fiat is one of them, If your having doubts anonymous transaction or try using an Escrow to really make a secure online transaction but you will need to make the same agreement with your merchant to perform transaction with escrow.

[Vaskiy]

That's really an awful experience for a newbie, this experience from a newbie will create some negative opinion over bitcoin. Further when he explains it to another user it won't be that attractive, it gives an outlook as something a much risk associated asset.

Here the mistake is with the Op, he hasn't analyzed better about the cryptocurrency usage and the features. Lack of knowledge and getting into usage is the reason for getting caught into a trap site. Earlier if he have analyzed he could've stayed away from the scam website as well known the reality of bitcoin's irreversible feature.

[adzino]

Hello:
I am new to cryptos and I must say that my first experience has been a bad one, I recently visited antminerusa.com and purchased some hardware, that was about 10 days ago, I paid using BTC, now the site is no longer available, its been down for 3 days maybe a bit more, this lead me to think this website is a scam.  Now what should I do to recover my BTC, if the purchase where made using a credit card, I would report it to my bank and they could void or cancel payment, but with BTC what should I do?, if there is nothing that I can do, then it is obvious that using cryptos is a scammers paradise because there is no protection to buyer (that I know), unless there is a way to introduce the complain in the chain in order to reverse payment.
This is the transaction id 30dc4f431ac3db1949b330ab8cd31d1bb019d4831e24cd7cd7f4215fca73073b if anyone could share some light I would appreciete it.

Sorry to hear that you got scammed. Just google "antminerusa" and you will see shit ton of people accusing  that site of being a scam. To be honest, its you fault (a bit) for not doing some research about that site before buying anything from them.
Nope, once the transaction has been confirmed, there is no way you can recover it. Sorry.

[antisocial77]

if you buy from big, well known company yes it is safe.but i suggest you never ever buy anything from unknown place or person.basically dont trust anybody if you use crypto.

[kryptqnick]

Please google the website before depositing money there. It's good if you can settle things with the bank if you got scammed, but even better to take your own responsibility and do minimal research before proceeding with financial matters. Yes, Bitcoin transactions are irreversible, and what's sent is sent. But I wouldn't say that it's the problem of Bitcoin. It gives good things like financial freedom from the governments, the funds being really yours (the bank can do quite a lot with your money), no account maintenance fees, no direct connection with your identity, etc. I am sorry that you lost money.

[vintages]

I think the first thing you should have done is to learn more about bitcoin before making a purchase with it because clearly you don't really know much about it.

Even with fiat currency, many people do scam with fake websites, so you don't need to place the blame on Bitcoin. It's your duty to verify the authenticity of any website you intend to make purchases online before doing so.

[TheCrimsonFucker]

I believe, that currently buying physical products or software through bitcoin I believe it is the safest way.

[The Cryptovator]

Since bitcoin is a irreversible currency it can't be refund to again. Buy with bitcoin safe if websites or sellers are trusted enough. Scammers are getting benefits of bitcoin transaction. So before buy any product from this kind if website you should we research. I will suggest to avoid transaction un-reputed website.

[diazepam666]

Hello:
I am new to cryptos and I must say that my first experience has been a bad one, I recently visited antminerusa.com and purchased some hardware, that was about 10 days ago, I paid using BTC, now the site is no longer available, its been down for 3 days maybe a bit more, this lead me to think this website is a scam.  Now what should I do to recover my BTC, if the purchase where made using a credit card, I would report it to my bank and they could void or cancel payment, but with BTC what should I do?, if there is nothing that I can do, then it is obvious that using cryptos is a scammers paradise because there is no protection to buyer (that I know), unless there is a way to introduce the complain in the chain in order to reverse payment.
This is the transaction id 30dc4f431ac3db1949b330ab8cd31d1bb019d4831e24cd7cd7f4215fca73073b if anyone could share some light I would appreciete it.

it is not about the Bitcoins actually you have tried on this scam website and sport that site has been no longer available now. using Bitcoin is the best and safest way of making payment without no control or interventions of the third party members.

Please write them about on scam accusations section to show their fake face to all over this forum.

[spadormie]

You should look at the social media accounts of that site(if it has any) so that you can see if there is a on going construction of the site or any bugs on the site. Buying bitcoin is safe but you need to make sure you put the right address and bitcoin's transactions are irreversable. It means that you cannot take back what you transacted. But if it's an exchange and it hasn't processed yet, it could get reverted. But, on your case, it is a site.

[joshy23]

I think the first thing you should have done is to learn more about bitcoin before making a purchase with it because clearly you don't really know much about it.

Even with fiat currency, many people do scam with fake websites, so you don't need to place the blame on Bitcoin. It's your duty to verify the authenticity of any website you intend to make purchases online before doing so.

Which is the very basic that we need to do before dealing or using our bitcoin, we need to authenticate the site in order to make sure that the
transactions will be legit as bitcoin is non reversible its our obligations to take a deeper look to avoid being scammed in any means.

[Mike Mayor]

Your title is extremely misleading. I buy things with bitcoin all the time so yes it is safe. More so then banking.

I also love that your mind is so closed and you don't even have the sense to do your research. Mining hardware websites are often scams it is a known thing. YOu would know this had you done your research.

Once more another idiot blaming something else for his or her shortcoming. YOu have yourself to blame and nothing else. Take responsibility and stop blaming other things.

Your closed mind only sees from one side. What about being a vendor? OR do you think bitcoin is only for buyers? Not being able to take back the payment is the reason many people use bitcoin, to begin with.

You think only from the buyers side.
Did you even think of the sellers side?
When I get paid for something I want to know the payment is mine not chargebacks. You say crypto is for scammers yet fiat charge backs are ok?

Get some sense.

This is exactly like people who invest in things do. They cry they lost money on the exchange but guess what no one ever held a gun to anyone's head and told them to invest. They know the risks going in.