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July 15, 2019, 12:00:17 PM
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There is a theory that we, Homo Sapiens, became number one among all the living things on Earth because we love to gossip, which allows us to co-operate in large numbers. So, maybe it's in our genes, and that's why, I have to admit, I, too, still want to know who the real Satoshi is, how much money does he have, who is he married to, etc. But is it really that important?

In the documentary 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' Andreas M. Antonopoulos is saying the following words:

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"Who is Euclid? We don't know. We don't know if Euclid was one person or multiple people. And you know what? It doesn't matter. Euclidean geometry works whether I know who Euclid was or not. Whether Euclid was a moral and good person or whether he was a corrupt plutocrat and a bastard. Science and mathematics have essential truth that stands alone irrespective of its inventors and irrespective of their motives. Well, Bitcoin is a system based on mathematical truths, and these mathematical truths stand alone. We can read the source code in Bitcoin and understand it, and it will be true whether Satoshi Nakamoto is a man, a woman, a collection of individuals, a government agency or aliens from the future."
- Andreas M. Antonopoulos - 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' (00:39:04)

I tend to agree with those words.

What about you, guys? Please share your opinions.

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July 15, 2019, 12:23:03 PM
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There is a theory that we, Homo Sapiens, became number one among all the living things on Earth because we love to gossip, which allows us to co-operate in large numbers. So, maybe it's in our genes, and that's why, I have to admit, I, too, still want to know who the real Satoshi is, how much money does he have, who is he married to, etc. But is it really that important?

In the documentary 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' Andreas M. Antonopoulos is saying the following words:

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"Who is Euclid? We don't know. We don't know if Euclid was one person or multiple people. And you know what? It doesn't matter. Euclidean geometry works whether I know who Euclid was or not. Whether Euclid was a moral and good person or whether he was a corrupt plutocrat and a bastard. Science and mathematics have essential truth that stands alone irrespective of its inventors and irrespective of their motives. Well, Bitcoin is a system based on mathematical truths, and these mathematical truths stand alone. We can read the source code in Bitcoin and understand it, and it will be true whether Satoshi Nakamoto is a man, a woman, a collection of individuals, a government agency or aliens from the future."
- Andreas M. Antonopoulos - 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' (00:39:04)

I tend to agree with those words.

What about you, guys? Please share your opinions.

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IN ICO phase one of the recommendations was to make sure the team was well known before buying, as an anonymous team would indicate suspicion. Yet somehow Satoshi team escaped this suspicion even though nobody knows who they are.
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July 15, 2019, 12:33:34 PM
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There is a theory that we, Homo Sapiens, became number one among all the living things on Earth because we love to gossip, which allows us to co-operate in large numbers. So, maybe it's in our genes, and that's why, I have to admit, I, too, still want to know who the real Satoshi is, how much money does he have, who is he married to, etc. But is it really that important?

In the documentary 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' Andreas M. Antonopoulos is saying the following words:

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"Who is Euclid? We don't know. We don't know if Euclid was one person or multiple people. And you know what? It doesn't matter. Euclidean geometry works whether I know who Euclid was or not. Whether Euclid was a moral and good person or whether he was a corrupt plutocrat and a bastard. Science and mathematics have essential truth that stands alone irrespective of its inventors and irrespective of their motives. Well, Bitcoin is a system based on mathematical truths, and these mathematical truths stand alone. We can read the source code in Bitcoin and understand it, and it will be true whether Satoshi Nakamoto is a man, a woman, a collection of individuals, a government agency or aliens from the future."
- Andreas M. Antonopoulos - 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' (00:39:04)

I tend to agree with those words.

What about you, guys? Please share your opinions.

and remember that all what i write  is HARD CORE REALITY FACTS AND NOTHING MORE, compare to all the fiction going here like satoshi is one person or bitcoin sv is the founder and other shit ... or satoshi is some smart kid .. bullshit.

sum it again

1. bitcoin operation come from people and no one person.
2. wiki leaks operation million time bigger then bitcoin and when journalist get info from them they receive it under one name which ironaclly this name dont lead non where ...its done with other underground projects which you dont even know which also come under one name yet behind this name is nothing hhhhhhhh
3.  after bitcoin explode soon from no where yes from no where come team called *cicada 3301* which search people skilled in cryptograhpy and have huge sharp logic!!!


rather the bullshit you spread and other here like conspiracy theories  or its one man behind bitcoin.

dont forget paypal and others was ban wiki leaks from get donations which in this point some people start to understand there are something very fishy but hell fishy to ban website like wiki leaks that expose all the shit happen here which ironically needed to be exposed by agents all around the world yet its underground people do.

Daphne Caruana Galizia was killed in very short time for exposing hell of shit, she receive the info under weird name which lead no where.

operations like bitcoin and wiki leaks and cicada 3301 runs by global team its cannot be the other way.

do you know how much people around the world try to trace the minds behind wiki leaks and cicada 3301 and they get to nothing,

do you know the minds behind of wiki leaks meet each other and they move under different names around the world.

people like mark zuckerberg  or even top agents from all countries only will dream to be part of this kind operations as wiki leaks its the biggest leaks done in the entire histroy and agents dont have the skills to get this kind of info and they fucking army of people backed by shitty salaries which spy on each other like clowns and in reality they are dumbes in alot of verticals and simple things dont know, compare to the people behind bitcoin and cicada and wiki leaks and others which most of this people know to make* huge amount of money and do things which in movies dont exist.

cicada 3301 ** the biggest operation in the entire history searching people with huge sharp logic. they went viral forever.

bitcoin operation the biggest in the entire history also disrupt industry of more then 25 trillion dollars and put out the governmnets and banks and other shit of this game forever,

REALITY SHIT NOT FICTION ,
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July 15, 2019, 12:34:45 PM
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I don't know if this discussion will be ever closed.
Everyone would claim that they are Satoshis but no one will be ever be able to prove it.
More and more speculations are about to be brought in public as the times goes. And the sad thing is that I believe that Satoshi is someone who is associated with illegal activities, and this may be the reason why he hides his identity.
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July 15, 2019, 12:39:26 PM
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do you know the minds behind wiki leaks can leak everything about the FBI and its kids game for them as they exposed shit which the fbi them self cannot get, and FBI is the top compare to all other countries , other countries for wiki leaks its kids and i far away from kidding , WHO GO DEEP THE RABBIT HOLE KNOW ALL THIS...

just for think for a moment about this ....


then suddenly come bitcoin...

and then cicada 3301

which are all of them root to wiki leaks minds

it cannot be the other way...

all the hints out there as

there are other people hint that peer to peer file sharing will make finical freedom...before bitcoin came out
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July 15, 2019, 12:44:42 PM
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I don't know if this discussion will be ever closed.
Everyone would claim that they are Satoshis but no one will be ever be able to prove it.
More and more speculations are about to be brought in public as the times goes. And the sad thing is that I believe that Satoshi is someone who is associated with illegal activities, and this may be the reason why he hides his identity.


only from your own words your logic function inside your head is broke and leave his game or you will lose your pants,,with this kind of logic

because some of the people behind this operation hint that something come and it involve with cryptograhy and peer to peer tech.

and almost everything can be traced on the web ask expert security on the web ,
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i dont going to name who said this and not expose to much because the ones that said it he is one of the topest minds behind wiki leaks, he also hinted about cicada 3301 operation way before it came. who know to trace will get to this.
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July 15, 2019, 12:46:10 PM
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yeah, i agree with AA. too but it is not up to us to put an end to this type of discussion. people will always be interested in theorycrafting about things like this that are covered in a shroud of mystery. Satoshi is like Bigfoot, we will never know what it really was but there will always be people who continue believing in it and discuss about it passionately.

the only thing that we should put an end to, and is our responsibility to do so, is scumbags who try to pretend to be Satoshi and abuse that identity.

There is a FOMO brewing...
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July 15, 2019, 12:50:24 PM
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illegal activities, and this may be the reason why he hides his identity.



they anonymous in whatever they do on the web....

there are projects which was done on the web which not associated with crypto AND ALL OF THEM IS UNDER ONE NAME WHICH LEAD NO WHERE...

you just live inside your dumb cube which barely know anything in this life, and here it even more worst you surrounded by people like you the end results is crap shit burn,

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July 15, 2019, 12:51:43 PM
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I don't know if this discussion will be ever closed.

This type of discussion will not close from cryptocurrency enthusiasts because it has a mystery that people want to see behind Bitcoin, they would want to know that who are behind the technology either as an individual or a group of persons, they would also want to know the family of the creators and at last be able to know their company and country of residence. It will be unending discussion from now to eternity.

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July 15, 2019, 12:56:18 PM
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yeah, i agree with AA. too but it is not up to us to put an end to this type of discussion. people will always be interested in theorycrafting about things like this that are covered in a shroud of mystery. Satoshi is like Bigfoot, we will never know what it really was but there will always be people who continue believing in it and discuss about it passionately.

the only thing that we should put an end to, and is our responsibility to do so, is scumbags who try to pretend to be Satoshi and abuse that identity.


do you know one of the topest minds of wiki leaks also hinted bout cicada 3301 and they have the same point of view about privacy and freedom and other shit....



people here without any deep analyze and searching how things works on the web just out put the crap inside their head and what scare smart people is they feel smart in the same time
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July 15, 2019, 01:01:42 PM
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It does matter, for all we know bitcoin was created as a testing ground for a global currency that the elites want to be in control of.  Maybe one day we could launch a community coin that is fair for everyone this time.
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I don't know if this discussion will be ever closed.

This type of discussion will not close from cryptocurrency enthusiasts because it has a mystery that people want to see behind Bitcoin, they would want to know that who are behind the technology either as an individual or a group of persons, they would also want to know the family of the creators and at last be able to know their company and country of residence. It will be unending discussion from now to eternity.


ask expert in security and he will say you everything can be traced on the web, but fucking everything and if not there are* hints, people just dont know* how to get this and much more.


only 00.2% know to be fully anonymous and wiki leaks minds are the ones uses this ways to hide the trace about them in what ever they do and even more most of them move from country to country under different names, to mask the trace after them,

as edoward snowdan leaked about the FBI and escaped to china under different name and their people waited him to hide him..

good morning mate this is REALITY FACTS  Cool
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July 15, 2019, 01:11:07 PM
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It does matter, for all we know bitcoin was created as a testing ground for a global currency that the elites want to be in control of.  Maybe one day we could launch a community coin that is fair for everyone this time.


you fucking so stupid mate mercy on your soul in whatever you do with this kind of logic


as peer to peer tech  in whatever vertical kill the central power if it few main servers in peer to peer file sharing or peer to peer money which put out the banks which pay taxes to governmnets , the same with paypal and bunch others which pay taxes to governmnets ,

peer to peer money also put the goverments out of the chain,


only crazy people and i mean crazy people like you think governmnets will build peer to peer money Huh its kill banks and paypal and bunch others which all this industry is much mre then 25 trillions dollars which the govermnenst take taxes... .hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

you fucking crazy and your logic dont work go see doctor fast.

peer to peer kill centralized power like banks,paypal, govermments and other...

did you forget centralized file sharing of movies and mp3 and software was shutdown preety fast by governmnets because they located the main servers that hold all the info and then people build peer to peer file sharing(decentralized tech) which our private computers are the servers that hold the info and the govermnets need to shut down now more then 500 million private computers and it cannot happen.

mercy on your soul
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It does matter, for all we know bitcoin was created as a testing ground for a global currency that the elites want to be in control of.  Maybe one day we could launch a community coin that is fair for everyone this time.


mic drop mate before you output crap from your head educate your self about the root of peer to peer tech, the oldest tech in the space which still grow like monster...

while other techs was died and replaced and died and replaced while peer to peer monster like PACMAN eat everything.

centralized file sharing is when few main servers hold all the info and computers all aorund the world download the stuff and dont depend on each other,

and just know the right worm in place in the min servers and you have access to all this computers, and governments pretty fast locate this main servers and shit down them

from here burn peer to peer tech(decentralized tech) which there is no main servers and our private computers are hold and download/upload the info which mean maybe you download movie from your friend ip hhhh

now the governments need to shut down more then 500 million computers,,,

governments/banks/storage companies they fear peer to peer tech as they fear fire

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CSW is satoshi  Cool and BSV is the real bitcoin  Cool














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July 15, 2019, 01:28:56 PM
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until now it will not end this discussion, almost in all bitcoin forums is always full of questions about who is Satoshi Nakamoto, who and where, but I believe satoshi is all of us who have become a part of it, I always believe that satoshi is a person who good in my mind

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There is a theory that we, Homo Sapiens, became number one among all the living things on Earth because we love to gossip, which allows us to co-operate in large numbers. So, maybe it's in our genes, and that's why, I have to admit, I, too, still want to know who the real Satoshi is, how much money does he have, who is he married to, etc. But is it really that important?

In the documentary 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' Andreas M. Antonopoulos is saying the following words:

Quote
"Who is Euclid? We don't know. We don't know if Euclid was one person or multiple people. And you know what? It doesn't matter. Euclidean geometry works whether I know who Euclid was or not. Whether Euclid was a moral and good person or whether he was a corrupt plutocrat and a bastard. Science and mathematics have essential truth that stands alone irrespective of its inventors and irrespective of their motives. Well, Bitcoin is a system based on mathematical truths, and these mathematical truths stand alone. We can read the source code in Bitcoin and understand it, and it will be true whether Satoshi Nakamoto is a man, a woman, a collection of individuals, a government agency or aliens from the future."
- Andreas M. Antonopoulos - 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' (00:39:04)

I tend to agree with those words.

What about you, guys? Please share your opinions.

I think who Satoshi Nakamoto does not matter because nobody even know who he is whether it's just a screen name or real name. What matters most is his creation which revolutionize monetary system into digital aspects.


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either you blind or you glasses are not clean for sure, there more hints that bitcoin is going  to come and most of this people are part of wiki leaks

here it again

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Wikileaks, Peer-to-Peer and cryptography, and the literary underground : Can the freedom of speech be absolute?
by -- Takushi OTANI was really on the web before bitcoin come
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someone else said this try to trace who behind this statement:

WikiLeaks is a website that publishes secret documents revealing the misconduct of governments and corporations. In its first year, WikiLeaks published more than 1.2 million secret documents. These documents revealed classified information about countries and corporations around the globe, spilling sensitive secrets about major conflicts and human rights abuses.

state-of-the-art encryption(cryptography), peer-to-peer file sharing, and the internet itself – is what makes it possible for WikiLeaks to release millions of secret documents at once.
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How cryptography and peer to peer tech is a key weapon in the fight against empire states -- Julian Assange said this.
said before bitcoin come to the world
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July 15, 2019, 01:34:02 PM
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until now it will not end this discussion, almost in all bitcoin forums is always full of questions about who is Satoshi Nakamoto, who and where, but I believe satoshi is all of us who have become a part of it, I always believe that satoshi is a person who good in my mind

with dumb people you never know where its end,

with smart people they will fucking trace everything , whatever ...

the problem is not satoshi team, the problem is people not educated and simple things cannot figure let alone complex pazzels ...

the problem is with dumb people this never will end and the amount of crap shit info is only grow.

HERE FOR YOU AND I CAN PUT MORE PEOPLE WHICH HINT ABOUT BITCOIN AND CICADA 3301 AND ALL OF THEM PART OF WIKI LEAKS.

wiki leaks can leak evrything about the FBI do you get what minds behind this team, hell if you can get this point you are far away from the ball park.

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Wikileaks, Peer-to-Peer and cryptography, and the literary underground : Can the freedom of speech be absolute?
by -- Takushi OTANI
================================================================================
someone else said this try to trace who behind this statement:

WikiLeaks is a website that publishes secret documents revealing the misconduct of governments and corporations. In its first year, WikiLeaks published more than 1.2 million secret documents. These documents revealed classified information about countries and corporations around the globe, spilling sensitive secrets about major conflicts and human rights abuses.

state-of-the-art encryption(cryptography), peer-to-peer file sharing, and the internet itself – is what makes it possible for WikiLeaks to release millions of secret documents at once.
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How cryptography and peer to peer tech is a key weapon in the fight against empire states -- Julian Assange said this.
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July 15, 2019, 01:34:28 PM
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I don`t know but if he comes back he could charge people for his signature using bitcoin. They send him .1 and he sends them .01 back from the genesis address or the 2nd address, I would do it. I wonder of those bitcoins would sell for more lol.

Anyways AA is right, it does not matter who made it, rather what it is and what it does, verifying with math or trusting 3rd party, I think everyone picks the first option.... But you can`t blame people for wanting to know who created it, I would want to know just for the sake if the person is alive or not, I really do think some people killed him and possibly Hal, also I would like to know just to give them a kudos, I would also like to know because if the person is dead I have start learning to code asap, For we know the end of bitcoin and gold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7TLFyK_3Pk with the huntercoin simulation of them.

Also I think in the first sentence of the white paper bitcoin was not really meant to be traded for fiat, I think it`s goal was to become the new medium of exchange, for USD and EURO is a financial institution, it was also meant to be traded p2p but most of the trades happen 3rd party on exchanges so it kind of failed there a little. (well it did not fail the morons who trade it for more $cam failed lol)
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July 15, 2019, 01:50:23 PM
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I don`t know but if he comes back he could charge people for his signature using bitcoin. They send him .1 and he sends them .01 back from the genesis address or the 2nd address, I would do it. I wonder of those bitcoins would sell for more lol.

Anyways AA is right, it does not matter who made it, rather what it is and what it does, verifying with math or trusting 3rd party, I think everyone picks the first option.... But you can`t blame people for wanting to know who created it, I would want to know just for the sake if the person is alive or not, I really do think some people killed him and possibly Hal, also I would like to know just to give them a kudos, I would also like to know because if the person is dead I have start to learning to code asap, For we know the end of bitcoin and gold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7TLFyK_3Pk with the huntercoin simulation of them.

Also I think in the first sentence of the white paper bitcoin was not really meant to be traded for fiat, I think it`s goal was to become the new medium of exchange, for USD and EURO is a financial institution, it was also meant to be traded p2p but most of the trades happen 3rd party on exchanges so it kind of failed there a little. (well it did not fail the morons who trade it for more $cam failed lol)


smart people will trace everything , which mean if there is hints and whatever there they will find, because smart people also will tell you when we say we can trace everything is relative which mean some of them anonymize them self to fully.

just know wiki leaks minds can leak everything about the FBI but EVERYTHING , IF* somebody here dont know how deep this statement he is fucking crazy,

all the hints about bitcoin and cicada come from them only*

the girls which are part of wiki leaks have so huge balls i mean its fucking scary, they know to do huge amount of money and be without any salaries compare to shitty FBI agents which are the top in the world, others agents its game kids for wiki leaks as some =one will piss them to much they will expose the hell of shit about where they live and what they do and other shit,

wiki leaks expose shit which no body can get to it
period

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