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Those users who complaines also get the 10 wins in a row but they don't notice that because they don't bust when this happens. With autobet you roll so many rolls within a few minutes so they chance on a big red streak is there. The best way to gamble on dice sites is just make a few big bets and then just quite. But that's just too boring. People will not be quite like that the roll of dice is always addictive continuously and they are not aware of successive losses, bet large amounts if it wins the first time we can stop whereas if it is not right in the dice roll then it will make we place another bigger bet to cover the loss. Unless you have the guts when it is profitable, we can end it but still the itching will still be there to bet again. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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November 09, 2020, 10:06:06 AM |
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Those users who complaines also get the 10 wins in a row but they don't notice that because they don't bust when this happens. With autobet you roll so many rolls within a few minutes so they chance on a big red streak is there. The best way to gamble on dice sites is just make a few big bets and then just quite. But that's just too boring. People will not be quite like that the roll of dice is always addictive continuously and they are not aware of successive losses, bet large amounts if it wins the first time we can stop whereas if it is not right in the dice roll then it will make we place another bigger bet to cover the loss. Unless you have the guts when it is profitable, we can end it but still the itching will still be there to bet again. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) The addictive scenario on dice is when you are at winning streak and though about this is your lucky day and bet something huge amount but suddenly end up on losing it, Im sure if this time will occur we will end up chasing the huge losses we encounter at the day and might this is the start of losing streak since we are out of focus. And then you will think about it even if your gameplay ends and want to revenge next game time.
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November 09, 2020, 10:14:55 AM |
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Just passing by to let you know that our Dice game will suffer some good changes pretty soon.. *drops smoke bomb*
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November 09, 2020, 10:15:40 AM |
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The addictive scenario on dice is when you are at winning streak and though about this is your lucky day and bet something huge amount but suddenly end up on losing it, Im sure if this time will occur we will end up chasing the huge losses we encounter at the day and might this is the start of losing streak since we are out of focus. And then you will think about it even if your gameplay ends and want to revenge next game time.
I have experienced this where successive winning days have happened to me, I continue to play without thinking about the time because greed is indeed when I win I want to win more even the number of bets is increased but yes the loss must be there when chasing that big defeat and want to return it, still can't mind being messed up, even revenge at other times want to hurry at the specified time. I don't want it to happen the second time where you have to experience the same thing, for me losing is normal in gambling but still if you want to catch up from that big defeat is something that is difficult for us to meet again.
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November 09, 2020, 11:27:00 AM |
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for me losing is normal in gambling but still if you want to catch up from that big defeat is something that is difficult for us to meet again.
This is what everyone should realize, catching fast is not good, we can always do that slowly using real strategy, and not the way that we are gambling because we got affected by the cold streak and we want to be back in the winning track, that's not happening most of the time, we are only putting ourselves into higher risk.
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November 09, 2020, 11:49:59 AM |
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Just passing by to let you know that our Dice game will suffer some good changes pretty soon.. *drops smoke bomb*
Nice to hear that! Can't wait to see those changes! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) for me losing is normal in gambling but still if you want to catch up from that big defeat is something that is difficult for us to meet again.
This is what everyone should realize, catching fast is not good, we can always do that slowly using real strategy, and not the way that we are gambling because we got affected by the cold streak and we want to be back in the winning track, that's not happening most of the time, we are only putting ourselves into higher risk. That's a thing with gambling, there's no "real" strategy! You can play slow and low, you can play fast and big, and you will sometimes win, you will sometimes lose, it's gambling! Recovering what's lost can be a difficult task, I try to not look my stats, I play with what I have, if I lose I deposit, when I win I withdraw some and play more... I try to have the amount for gambling on some level that suits me, to not worry if I lose, it's all about feeling comfortable with the amount you are gambling with.
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November 09, 2020, 12:33:23 PM |
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Just passing by to let you know that our Dice game will suffer some good changes pretty soon.. *drops smoke bomb*
Hmm can't wait to see too, i'm often gamble on wolfbet and was statisified with anything on there (live stats, fast bets, flash bet). But i saw max bet for mobile isn't fixed yet until now. Maybe the min amount on flash bet will be decreased? since the min amount of flash bet is too high IMHO
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November 09, 2020, 02:22:35 PM |
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The addictive scenario on dice is when you are at winning streak and though about this is your lucky day and bet something huge amount but suddenly end up on losing it, Im sure if this time will occur we will end up chasing the huge losses we encounter at the day and might this is the start of losing streak since we are out of focus. And then you will think about it even if your gameplay ends and want to revenge next game time.
I have experienced this where successive winning days have happened to me, I continue to play without thinking about the time because greed is indeed when I win I want to win more even the number of bets is increased but yes the loss must be there when chasing that big defeat and want to return it, still can't mind being messed up, even revenge at other times want to hurry at the specified time. I don't want it to happen the second time where you have to experience the same thing, for me losing is normal in gambling but still if you want to catch up from that big defeat is something that is difficult for us to meet again. If I count the days in which I was lucky when playing dice, they certainly outnumber the bad ones; the problem is that it takes a single powerful losing streak to annihilate pretty much all those lucky days. Try your luck but remember that as long as you stretch it, the closer you get to lose big. It makes sense, otherwise, we wouldn't have casinos but rather charities.
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November 09, 2020, 03:18:46 PM |
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This is what everyone should realize, catching fast is not good, we can always do that slowly using real strategy, and not the way that we are gambling because we got affected by the cold streak and we want to be back in the winning track, that's not happening most of the time, we are only putting ourselves into higher risk.
That's a thing with gambling, there's no "real" strategy! You can play slow and low, you can play fast and big, and you will sometimes win, you will sometimes lose, it's gambling! Here we go again There is "real" strategy, and it is martingale based on the idea of statistical outliers on a finite timeframe. Or why do you think Wolf.bet doesn't allow flashbet starting with the lowest possible denominations (here I refer mostly to Dogecoin)? It is utterly ironic that quite a few people claim I'm basically telling bullshit and then, lo, Wolf.bet does exactly what I'm trying to convey in order to render this approach useless (more specifically, to avoid losing its bankroll to a concerted effort by a bunch of malicious actors)
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iv4n
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November 09, 2020, 06:34:05 PM |
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This is what everyone should realize, catching fast is not good, we can always do that slowly using real strategy, and not the way that we are gambling because we got affected by the cold streak and we want to be back in the winning track, that's not happening most of the time, we are only putting ourselves into higher risk.
That's a thing with gambling, there's no "real" strategy! You can play slow and low, you can play fast and big, and you will sometimes win, you will sometimes lose, it's gambling! Here we go again There is "real" strategy, and it is martingale based on the idea of statistical outliers on a finite timeframe. Or why do you think Wolf.bet doesn't allow flashbet starting with the lowest possible denominations (here I refer mostly to Dogecoin)? It is utterly ironic that quite a few people claim I'm basically telling bullshit and then, lo, Wolf.bet does exactly what I'm trying to convey in order to render this approach useless (more specifically, to avoid losing its bankroll to a concerted effort by a bunch of malicious actors) I can't say that I fully understand what you wish to say Deisik! But I can say that I didn't express myself in the right way... It's why I highlighted "real"! There're good strategies, but "real", "one and only" strategy that beats all others doesn't exist! And this I speak from my own experience, I tried so many of them, in many ways, and I had different outcomes. The difference between flash and auto is minimal bet! You can run some strategies with few doges on auto, but for trying flash with the same strategy you need a bigger bankroll! I would like to see some strategies you play! Would you like to share it?
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November 09, 2020, 06:47:47 PM |
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I would like to see some strategies you play! Would you like to share it? In fact, I have already shared it With all the real data proving that you can statistically beat the house edge on any limited timeframe. It is not the question of being lucky to win, quite the other way around, that is to say, you should be statistically unlucky to lose. In fact, it has nothing to do with the house edge at all. If you are curious, it's about variance But what makes it truly amazing is to check what other people have to say, and even catch them supporting one point and at the same time challenging another point which can't be supported and challenged simultaneously (read, it is either all here or all there). That essentially reveals how little most folks here understand about stats and randomness as it plays out in real life despite their vocal claims to the contrary
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November 09, 2020, 06:52:13 PM |
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Just passing by to let you know that our Dice game will suffer some good changes pretty soon.. *drops smoke bomb*
Thanks for the heads up, updates like this can be surprising for other players if there's some changes that hasn't been notified. I have seen literally hundreds of people who lost money while gambling on dice game complain about "10 losses in a row!!" like that is something impossible. They calculated what are the odds and realized that even though it is small, there is a chance that happens and they still went with "how could something so rare could happen to me!! this casino must be rigged!!" and started scam accusations.
This didn't happened just one place neither, it happened all around crypto gambling world as well. Now think of people who can't comprehend that ever bet is individual and you have a chance to not only lose 10 in a row at %50 win chance, but you can lose even 20 or 30 as well, to suddenly realize that when you pay small fee, you are not getting your money any time soon. They will blame the website for not sending it quick enough even though they are the ones who picked low fee.
It's the gamblers fault. We can't avoid those incidents that someone will blame the casino for their losses wherein fact that it's their fault because they were the ones who gambled their money and they wouldn't lose if they haven't visited the casino.
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November 09, 2020, 08:06:52 PM |
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^You can't build a business to cater for the idiots as well but you also can't build a business ignoring them neither. Wolf.bet obviously can't make changes according to how people are idiots, there are a lot of people who can't even understand how gambling works, I love a George Carlin quote "think of how stupid an average person is, half of them are stupider than that" which is statistically correct.
However wolf.bet could make it like we said, if you really want to make a change in fee structure, don't allow people to put it themselves because that is too much power to give to an idiot, but you can make it multiple option, that would be better. Simply make changes and improve and get better but do not ignore the idiots while doing that at the same time.
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November 09, 2020, 09:27:59 PM |
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I can't say that I fully understand what you wish to say Deisik! But I can say that I didn't express myself in the right way... It's why I highlighted "real"! There're good strategies, but "real", "one and only" strategy that beats all others doesn't exist! And this I speak from my own experience, I tried so many of them, in many ways, and I had different outcomes. The difference between flash and auto is minimal bet! You can run some strategies with few doges on auto, but for trying flash with the same strategy you need a bigger bankroll!
On the contrary, I somehow understand what Deisik wanted to convey, I think I have tried using the method of martingale in a finite timeframe, quitting while in a positive gain. If you can observe, as the martingale session goes on, the red streak keeps on increasing so we have to watch out for it and plan how to adjust to those red streak changes in accordance with our bankroll and eventually quit while in gain.
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November 10, 2020, 09:06:44 AM |
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there is no need to complain about fees now. btc fees are high. it is best to just stop using btc, it is too overated, imagine paying all that fees and it still takes hours to get a confirmation. just use xrp or doges
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November 10, 2020, 09:28:37 AM |
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Just passing by to let you know that our Dice game will suffer some good changes pretty soon.. *drops smoke bomb*
Hmm can't wait to see too, i'm often gamble on wolfbet and was statisified with anything on there (live stats, fast bets, flash bet). But i saw max bet for mobile isn't fixed yet until now. Maybe the min amount on flash bet will be decreased? since the min amount of flash bet is too high IMHO Max bet for mobile is already fixed ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 10, 2020, 09:42:58 AM |
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there is no need to complain about fees now. btc fees are high. it is best to just stop using btc, it is too overated, imagine paying all that fees and it still takes hours to get a confirmation. just use xrp or doges
Now the bitcoin blockchain is back to normal but after last weeks I switched to XRP to play and transfer between casino's. I had to wait 2 weeks for my btc tx to be confirmed and I don't want to do that again. ;-) And on Wolf.bet you can also create even better autobet settings with XRP because you can set lower amounts. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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I think deisik and ivan are talking about basically the same thing. For a limited period, if you do not gamble forever and you only gamble to a certain extent, you could potentially make a profit. Obviously it all depends on your luck situation as well, because if you get unlucky you could literally lose all your money in just first 10 bets as well, but that is being very unlucky.
However in the long run, if you do not stop, you will lose that part we all agree on. What deisik and ivan couldn't agree on was the fact that there are good strategies to make sure you get profit in short term and stop instead of constantly gambling, but deisik said there is one whereas ivan said there is not just one, multiple ones are decent none are truly forever profitable, those are not mutually exclusive if you ask me.
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November 10, 2020, 07:54:37 PM |
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there is no need to complain about fees now. btc fees are high. it is best to just stop using btc, it is too overated, imagine paying all that fees and it still takes hours to get a confirmation. just use xrp or doges
Now the bitcoin blockchain is back to normal but after last weeks I switched to XRP to play and transfer between casino's. I had to wait 2 weeks for my btc tx to be confirmed and I don't want to do that again. ;-) And on Wolf.bet you can also create even better autobet settings with XRP because you can set lower amounts. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) This is what ive been doing where I do skip out on using btc at the moment since fees aren't that high though but using up the average fee does really took like forever and if you are doing gambling then you would really get pissed even on just waiting for 1 confirmation before your balance would be credited. XRP is one of the most suitable coin for this fee problem and also with DOGE which is really a good alternative for this time.
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November 10, 2020, 09:37:43 PM |
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XRP is one of the most suitable coin for this fee problem and also with DOGE which is really a good alternative for this time Dogecoin is an excellent alternative at any time That's why it is a coin of choice for many small-time gamblers. It would be interesting to find out how much of the entire Dogecoin market supply is used in online casinos relative to what is used for speculative purposes on exchanges. If we consider gambling as a real-life use case, which we technically should because brick-and-mortar gambling is part of a nation's GDP where applicable, doges should be at the top among all cryptocurrencies as far as mass adoption is concerned
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